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titanium_hiker
09-09-2005, 13:04
Here is my clothes list (thought up)
2 tshirt (poly fabric)
shorts (swimsuit type)
very light windproof zipoff pants
sun hat
beanie
3 pairs socks
underwear- 3 pairs 2 bra
two pair thermal underwear bottoms
one thermal underwear top
raincoat (lined)
Is this a good base clothing system?
titanium
Footslogger
09-09-2005, 13:15
You're gonna get a lot of opinions on this one. You didn't mention what time of year you'd be packing this list of clothing. That aside ...I would tell you that you only need 1 pair of shorts if you're carrying zip-off leg pants. One pair of long john bottoms is sufficient. Hiking in underwear is personal. I don't use it myself and, as a guy, there's no need for a bra - - so I'm gonna let that one up to you. Not exactly sure what you mean by a "lined raincoat" ?? Some form of waterproof upper body protection is a good idea. By "Beanie" I'm guessing you mean some type of stocking cap ?? and by sun hat you mean a ball cap ?? In warmer months you could leave the stocking cap off the list but a lightweight cap that shades your eyes is never a bad idea. Great in rain or bright sunshine.
Anyhew ...those are my comments/suggestions.
'Slogger
Just Jeff
09-09-2005, 13:21
Looks pretty good, but what weather are you hiking in?
If it's cold with any possibility of precipitation, you'll want rain pants. They can replace the wind pants, too.
If it's not cold, then why two thermal bottoms?
Since you lose more heat in the upper body than lower body, you might consider trading one set of bottoms for another top (or even a thicker insulation layer), or just leave one behind if not needed. I've found that thermal bottoms and rain pants keep my legs warm enough for my hikes...probably to ~30F until I stop moving, but then I just get in my hammock.
But that's just me.
Is this for a thru hike or section? I looks good. What is your reason for two pr. of thermal bottoms, but only one top? Are you going to want a lined raincoat in the heat, or just a rain shell? It looks a lot like my list, but for the summer, I plan on having at least one cotton Tshirt. Cotton may kill at low temps, but it's a wonderful thing in the heat of summer. I wondered about the swimsuit type shorts. They are light, but don't they make a lot of noise? Just curious. Good luck with your hike!
As 'Slogger mentions, the time of the year and the location of the hike is really important. But, assuming you mean somewhere along the Appalachian Trail, minus the Whites, and in the summer time, here are some comments, then suggestions.
1) Don't bring multiple copies of the same item. So, bring 1 T-shirt (the one you'll be wearing), 1 underwear and bra (the ones you'll be wearing), bring either the pants or the shorts but not both (again, the one you'll be wearing), bring one pair of thermal bottoms.
2) Three pairs of socks are the exception. I need to scrub my socks daily in order to keep my feet happy.
3) I'd be very careful about not bringing a solid insulation layer (i.e, heavy fleece or down jacket or insulated pullover) unless you know the climate and area very well. For instance, even in the dead of summer I bring a down jacket with me into the Cascades and Olympics. Sometimes it is overkill. Other times it is perfect. Seriously consider bringing something warm to put on. The thermal top combined with a rain coat works ok, but consider the following scenario: You encounter a few days worth of cold, wet weather (not uncommon, even in the summer on the AT). The first day you hike with the thermal top, tights, and jacket on. You sweat (because you always sweat when going uphill) and get your only warm stuff quite wet. Now, you get to camp and have nothing warm. Next day, the situation is worse.
4) You need gloves. Fox River Liner gloves are cheap,light, and give just enough warmth.
For a mid summer hike on the AT, outside of the Whites, here is what I would bring. This is a little different than my west coast stuff.
Wearing
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Underarmor long sleeve shirt
Underarmor underwear
Shorts
Bandanna
Running socks
Trail runners
Carrying
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Thermal tights
Go-lite reed pants
eVENT windshirt
Umbrella
Down vest or expedition weight thermal top
2 running socks
liner gloves
warm hat
titanium_hiker
09-09-2005, 15:05
ok. yeah, I left a lot out. hmm... mountains, 0-40 C I think. (thats 32-104 F)
I thought maybe save wieght on a sweater and have it combined with the rain coat. Can't stand rain pants. hmmm... maybe I will boil in the rain if it's a combo- maybe attachable liner.
Two thermal bottoms- one for sleeping... two tshirts, one for sleeping, but I guess at colder temps I should do two thermal tops. They're light eh?
Shorts:
OTB (one tough brand) 100% polyester multiple pockets picked em up dirt cheap. secondhand. my fav pair of shorts- light, soft, no noise.
thanks guys
titanium
titanium_hiker
09-09-2005, 15:09
oh yeah- beany is warm hat- "knitted" I figure it's light and you lose most warmth from the head. Sun hat: floppy, all around brim.
two of light stuff isn't that much- I like to stay somewhat clean (ziplock washing)... and you yourself said about getting your only warm stuff wet (chris)
titanium
If you want to be good down to 0 C, I would seriously consider bringing more insulation. A single thermal top, a heavy fleece or down jacket or insulated pull over (MEC Northern Lite II pullover is very good and pretty cheap as well), along with the rain coat, will be sufficient. The MEC pullover weighs something like 13 oz. My midweight MEC thermal top weighs 8 oz. The 5 oz difference isn't much that much considering that the pull over is vastly warmer.
I sleep in the shirt that I hike in and have found that this works just fine for me. Others disagree.
titanium_hiker
09-09-2005, 17:12
thanks chris- yeah, looking at it, it's a bit sparce.. finally getting round to weighing my gear and EEP!
hehehehe.
titanium
Here is my clothes list (thought up)
2 tshirt (poly fabric)
shorts (swimsuit type)
very light windproof zipoff pants
sun hat
beanie
3 pairs socks
underwear- 3 pairs 2 bra
two pair thermal underwear bottoms
one thermal underwear top
raincoat (lined)
I'd only bring one t-shirt as well as thermal bottoms; as long as you have a good sleeping bag you won't have a problem sleeping in the same shirt. Why zip-off pants? You already have shorts on the list. Zippers are just extra weight.
For socks, underware and bras I carried two of each. I would wear one pair for three days then switch, in the intervining three days I would rinse and dry the dirty stuff. Every guy here will tell you that two bras is a waste. But honestly, they have nothing to base this opinion on. It's up to you if you want to go without every time you do laundry. For some people it is no big deal, for others an issue. Only you know for sure on that one.
If you are out in cold weather (less than 10 C/30's and 40's) I would add a down vest or down jacket.
OnStar
-> it's a toque not a beanie (says the Canadian)
titanium_hiker
09-10-2005, 13:01
toque, beanie, cap, hat, whatever. :) good to finally hear from a girl- I was thinking there's no way I'm going out with out a change of bras- really the wieght is neglible.
titanium
titanium_hiker
09-10-2005, 18:18
oh yeah- JRB no-snivler wearable would be a great "I'm gonna be cold" addition- multi use.
thanks for all the responses guys (and girls) but I guess I'm not going to be an ultralighter... :( :D
titanium
oh yeah- JRB no-snivler wearable would be a great "I'm gonna be cold" addition- multi use.
thanks for all the responses guys (and girls) but I guess I'm not going to be an ultralighter... :( :D
titanium
You're starting close enought that you will be after a few hundred miles.
OnStar
Traction
10-06-2005, 01:40
i'd say whatever you do.. keep the beanie. That's really all you need actually. just a beanie. well, and some shorts.. one pair. and a tshirt.. and since you're a girl you can slide with the bra and underwear.. i went with one pair of socks and loved it.. but that's me.. although i did have to sew them up with dental floss to fix all the holes (thanks to bayley). The combination of your rain jacket and your beanie will keep you toasty warm while hiking (and actually since you're only planning for 0c temps.. you could hike in that in a tshirt and your beanie and still be warm) at night you have your sleeping bag to keep you warm.. and wa-laa you're ultralight. :banana
just remember.. keep the beanie.. it's one of the most effective pieces of cold weather clothing for its weight that you can carry.
titanium_hiker
10-06-2005, 10:43
yeah- gotta love the beanie.
titanium
Just Jeff
10-06-2005, 11:23
oh yeah- JRB no-snivler wearable would be a great "I'm gonna be cold" addition- multi use.
Have you ordered your JRB yet?
If your rain jacket is big enough, you can wear your NS underneath it for even more warmth (less drafty) and to protect it in camp:
http://www.geocities.com/jwj32542/JRBworn.html
titanium_hiker
10-06-2005, 11:31
yeah, I've ordered the nest. thanks for the tip about the raincoat.
I really enjoy your website btw, what would be cool would be a "what's new" list on the front page.
titanium