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Cheesewhiz
10-06-2005, 21:47
Your opinions please!
Do you think I will ge warm enough if I use a Nest under quilt and a no sniveler quilt as bedding if I carry my montbell Thermawrap synthetic jacket (8.8 oz)
and a heavy weight thermal bottom for sleeping w/ balaclava and socks
SGT Rock
10-06-2005, 21:50
Yes I do.
Of course that is based on what I consider a comfort level.
I don't see any problem with that set up at all; plenty of flexibility there.
March is so hard to call as you can quite literally be hiking in shorts and 70 degree temps one day and then be post-holing through snowdrifts two days later.
Since it's just now getting cooler, I'd use this fall as a trial period. Use your intended sleeping arrangement on weekends in the backyard and see how it does as the temps drop through October and November. That should give you a good indication of how low you can go and whether you'll need more insulation. Everyone's going to sleep differently, comfort-wise.
And remember to eat that Snickers before you turn in for the night!
Cheesewhiz
10-07-2005, 00:03
I also have the Jacks weather shield for an extra layer. So if need be I can toss my emergency blanket in between.
Just Jeff
10-07-2005, 00:20
Yeah, but Rock is a rock and would probably be comfortable in a poncho liner on the North Pole... :)
People have reported comfort to ~25F with the 3 season set. Adding the Weathershield will give you some more protection, too...just be sure to test adding both the Nest and WS so you can get the fit right without fidgeting in the cold.
I'm expecting upper 20s this weekend and all I'm using is the Nest/NS combo.
If it gets colder, you can always boil some water, put it in a water bottle, put the bottle in a sock, and stick the whole thing in your armpit or on your femoral artery. It'll keep you toasty and you'll have warm water for a hot drink in the morning. That'll add to your safety margin a bit. But holy crap does it stink if you use a dirty sock. Oh man.
The strength of the Weathershield is that it's breathable. If you put a nonbreathable layer between your WS and Nest, you might get some condensation in the down. Ray Garlington says he gets some condensation between his bag o' feathers and silnylon taco (which is basically how your setup would perform), but he says it hasn't caused him any problems. Just something to think about.
SGT Rock
10-07-2005, 00:34
Yeah, but Rock is a rock and would probably be comfortable in a poncho liner on the North Pole... :)
No I'm a cold weather wussy. :sun
Cheesewhiz
10-07-2005, 07:43
I am usually a really warm sleeper! thanks for the info. I just was not sure if I needed the old mtn and the no sniveler or just the no sneiveler
MedicineMan
10-08-2005, 00:20
and for another piece of insurance is a small piece of close cell foam that you can place between the hammock and the underquilt....some people with internal frame packs use these to give the pack shape and help transfer the weight to the hipbelt...it doesnt have to be thick...0.25 inches is a lot if it is closed cell and it doesnt have to be that long--think shoulders to hips--
and might weigh 4-8oz depending on which thickness you choose...and if your using a weathershield and happen on dry leaves/pine needles def. consider stuffing them between the weather shield and the underquilt.....but before doing any of that remember site selection and use the terrain to your advantage...once near doc's knob shelter i crawl into a laurel thicket to setup the hammock knowing that i was protected for wind in every direction...
Just Jeff
10-08-2005, 00:53
MM,
Doesn't the CCF weigh down the underquilt and cause an air gap? Or if you pull it tighter, doesn't it compress the down?
I'm curious because I'm trying to test how cold I can get the Nest/NS combo, and for my trip tomorrow I'm taking a CCF pad for insurance. If one that small works well, it would sure save some pack space and weight.
Do you have a website?
Reality_check
10-13-2005, 21:37
cheesewhiz ,
In my opinion the JRB nest/NS combo will more then keep you warm all the way threw your hike. I just finished my hike a few days ago and never had a problem staying warm even with all the rain and cold we had up in ME. I slept in my HH almost every night of my trip and never got cold. I picked back up my sleeping pad for the Whites but never had to us it. the JRB nest/NS will be fine.