Waterbuffalo
12-23-2005, 21:05
Okay I think i'm ready to buy JRB Nest Underquilt how cold has anyone gotten in it? I want to get to 15-20deg F. I will also b e using a 20 deg bag also. I have not seen an answer to this on any sites.
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View Full Version : Underquilt Waterbuffalo 12-23-2005, 21:05 Okay I think i'm ready to buy JRB Nest Underquilt how cold has anyone gotten in it? I want to get to 15-20deg F. I will also b e using a 20 deg bag also. I have not seen an answer to this on any sites. txulrich 12-23-2005, 21:15 Okay I think i'm ready to buy JRB Nest Underquilt how cold has anyone gotten in it? I want to get to 15-20deg F. I will also b e using a 20 deg bag also. I have not seen an answer to this on any sites. The Nest is good to about 30 degrees. They also sell a weather shield that will add about another 5-10 degrees. In addition, the sell a heavier quilt that would be good to around 20. That with the weather shield will get you where you want. I have used the Nest and weather shield to about 30. I use my sleeping bag as a top quilt. When I can swing it, I'll buy a no-sniveler. Peace, Joe Just Jeff 12-24-2005, 00:24 I've used my Nest and NS to about 30 F before I brought a pad in. I was comfortable to 35-37 F, and I sleep cold. 15-20 F is doable with an underquilt, though. You can double them up on bottom or get a thicker one. Rifleman 12-24-2005, 01:58 Go check out the Yahoo Hammock Camping list and also get in touch with the two Jacks. Also remember that hammocks do rip and tear (very infrequently-ask Ed Speer) and if you're only geared up for hanging you're SOL. I've used my hammocks (H&H, Bana, & ENO) for several years now w/o an underquilt (used other methods of insulation) and in all kinds of weather and managed to sleep comfortably to this point. But of course I haven't gone up to 9,000 ft. in the Sierras with the wrong gear and still managed (by dumb luck) to live to tell the tale. Cordially, R. Cheesewhiz 12-24-2005, 06:35 I have used my Nest with a 15* western mountaineering bag and the jacks weathershield down to a 14* mourning temp. peter_pan 12-24-2005, 09:30 Waterbuffalo, et al. Don't forget the Old Rag Mtn quilt has been redesigned to serve as an underquilt or top quilt...as well as kicked out to 3+ inches and increased to 800pf... this would equal the original double bottomed three season set( 2 * 1.5) for just 24 oz vs 40 oz... easily thru the teens... just another approach. Remember I'm biased. Pan Just Jeff 12-24-2005, 09:52 But of course I haven't gone up to 9,000 ft. in the Sierras with the wrong gear and still managed (by dumb luck) to live to tell the tale. Very insightful. A 3" down mattress, a sleeping bag/quilt with 9" of loft, extra space in a 4 season shelter, and a group of experienced people for my first snowcamping trip...that's the wrong gear. Ok, rifleman. At least your post had SOMETHING about hiking in it this time. Fiddleback 12-24-2005, 10:16 I'm intrigued by the underquilt concept but I haven't seen enough to convince me that there's a good insulation vs weight ratio. Dressed in cold weather clothing, I've already done ~26° with no underquilt, no top quilt or bag, and a 1/4", throw-covered pad (21oz total and less than $40 for the pad and throw). Twenty six degrees is my limit with that set up but with a new top quilt and a 4oz addition to the pad combination I expect to break below 20°. Still, 26° is good enough for three-season camping in my area. With an underquilt I see a minor convenience in not having to ensure the pad is smooth and I forsee easier packing of an underquilt than the Oware pad and Campmor throw combo I use. But the key is insulation and for the weight and cost involved, I'm not convinced...yet. FB Just Jeff 12-24-2005, 10:25 CCF pads are certainly the most cost-effective and lightest options for a given temperature...I don't think you'll be convinced otherwise if those are your two most important criteria. I like underquilts and the PeaPod because they're breathable, compressible, and I don't have to worry about staying on it at night. Of course, they have other disadvantages that pads don't, too. Whatever works...either way is still more comfortable than sleeping on the ground! Waterbuffalo 12-24-2005, 13:57 Pan will the Old Rag Mtn quilt fit my Henessy Expedition? Rifleman 12-25-2005, 02:22 Very insightful. A 3" down mattress, a sleeping bag/quilt with 9" of loft, extra space in a 4 season shelter, and a group of experienced people for my first snowcamping trip...that's the wrong gear. Ok, rifleman. At least your post had SOMETHING about hiking in it this time. Your survival removes a lot of support for Darwin and his theory of Natural Selection. Inferring from your own self-report none of that gear or the "experienced people" had anything to do with your survival. Perhaps it was Asmodius that kept you alive. Next time you may not be so fortunate. Cordially, :-? R. Just Jeff 12-25-2005, 04:56 Alright man...I'm done hijacking this guy's thread. If you have anything else to say, PM me. Wonder what'll change when you don't have an audience to impress. peter_pan 12-25-2005, 06:57 Pan will the Old Rag Mtn quilt fit my Henessy Expedition? Perfectly... Pan Saluki Dave 12-25-2005, 07:38 I'm not a hammocker so I don't know. Does it make sense to have the underquilt "outside" the hammock rather than between you and the hammock. Seems to me a little velcor would put it in a position to really retain loft and insulating power, which of course means it has probably already been thought of. Dave peter_pan 12-25-2005, 09:55 I'm not a hammocker so I don't know. Does it make sense to have the underquilt "outside" the hammock rather than between you and the hammock. Seems to me a little velcor would put it in a position to really retain loft and insulating power, which of course means it has probably already been thought of. Dave Saluki, Welcome to the world of the happy hammock hangers...anything between you and the hammock that is compressable, becomes useless and the cold passes thru... That is why folks use closed sell foam pads, dams, pea pod or underquilts... read some of the hammock form posts for a good understanding of this wonderful comfortable light camping culture. Merry Christmas. Pan Waterbuffalo 12-26-2005, 17:12 Pan thanks for you help you can count on my order once the end of the year bonus hits Rifleman 12-26-2005, 21:24 Alright man...I'm done hijacking this guy's thread. If you have anything else to say, PM me. Wonder what'll change when you don't have an audience to impress. Nothing. I do not care to know or use your email. You have nothing that I want. |