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wph22840
01-01-2006, 00:57
Field Test: “Potomac” Underquiltby Kickass Quits
Initial Report: 31 December 2005

Tester Biographical Information

Name: Win
Gender: Male
Height: 5’-10”
Weight: 208 lb
Age: 53
Test
Location: George Washington National Forest
Virginia, USA


Tester’s Background:


I am a novice backpacker, but an experienced camper, who wanted to provide a review to allow other novices to compare gear. I have camped in a variety of areas across the country ranging from the Cascades, the Sierra Madres, the Coulees of the northwest, the New Hampshire slope of Mt. Washington, to the Blue Ridge in Virginia.



Product Information:
Model: Potomac Underquilt

Manufacturer: Kickass Quilts
Contact Info: info@kickassquilts.com
240.483.3747
3220 Hewitt Ave.
Suite 112 Silver
Spring, MD 20906
Website:http://www.kickassquilts.com/Home.html

Date of
Manufacture: November 2005
Size tested: Regular (reported to fit about 5'9" to 6'4")
Length: 80"
Width at widest point - 48"
Width at head - 30"
Width at foot - 24"

Materials
As Tested: Shell: 1.1 oz DWR ripstop nylon, top and bottom
Base Insulation: 1.5 - 2.0" of Polarguard 3D
Additional Insulation: one additional layer added
Attachment/Adjustment: 3/32" adjustable shock cord
Quilt loops: 100% polyester yarn

Weight
As Tested: Regular Base Weight – 28 oz
Camouflage – 2 oz additional
Added Insulation – 10 oz additional
Total weight – 40 oz


Tested on: Hennessy Explorer Deluxe Asym


Product Arrival: My on-line order received a response within

24 hours. The finished product was received in approximately
two weeks, with several email updates in the interim. Patrick did a great job of making sure a novice buyer and the seller were on the same page.


First Impressions: The underquilt arrived in good shape and with all the advertised extras (an oversized net storage bag, a stuff sack, etc.) along with a nice note. The workmanship was professional and the instructions adequate. I should note that Patrick has updated his attachment/installation instructions on the web now and they are very good.


Initial Outing: The trip was a short excursion to test out both the underquilt and my 16-year-old tent camping son’s stamina. We arrived at the campsite in late morning to find a 3 inch thick coating of frozen snow-slush everywhere. The daytime high that day was 42 degrees F. It took me about half an hour to pitch my hammock as I am still a neophyte. With printed instructions in hand, it took me all of ten or fifteen minutes to attach and adjust the underquilt. Patrick’s novel loop and toggle method is a breeze! I spread out my North Face Cat’s Meow sleeping bag (20 degree rating) as my over quilt and left well enough alone.


By evening the temperature had started to drop and the radiant cooling to the slushy snow was noticeable as you stood or sat in camp. It was a relatively clear night with just broken cloud cover.
My first direct experience with the underquilt was the act of getting past it to get into my hammock. I have a new hip, which makes some gyrations more entertaining than others. When I went to move the underquilt to the side in order to access the spit bottom of the Hennessy hammock, I found that I had tied my hammock a bit low for comfortable access. Being a lazy sort sometimes decided I make do none-the-less, pushed the underquilt aside and climbed in. It took a bit of scrambling to get myself stretched out, and then I had to reverse course to reach back through the slit to swing the edge of the underquilt back up alongside the hammock. As I lay back down I realized that I had indeed hung the hammock too low. My shoulder was feeling the ground/snow brushing as the hammock swung in the 2 to 4 mph breeze. So I got my practice opening up the slit with my foot, trying to hook the edge of the underquilt to bring it down, and then climbing out. Ten minutes of hammock adjustment, a slight tightening of the edge shock cord for the underquilt, and I was back in my bed.


The low temperature that night was 27.2 degrees F. As noted above, there was also the factor of the refreezing slush beneath the hammock. I was not overly optimistic about the likelihood of being warm and comfy.



I am delighted to say that I was warm all night other than the occasional experience of rolling the overquilt too far to one side and exposing various appendages. The underquilt on the other hand kept me warm, had no cold spots, and was wrapped snuggly around me without imposing restrictions to movement or claustrophobic episodes.
I will not only keep this bag for four season use, I am sure I will get many chances to amaze both my hammocking and non-hammocking friends as we spend time outdoors. By the way, my ground-sleeping son, with two 1.5 inch thermarest pads is now interested in trying my hammock…

Dreadie
01-01-2006, 01:25
Thanks, Win, for the report. I have ordered one of Patrick's underquilts :banana and can't wait to try it out. I was wondering what you wore for clothing during this test. And are you normally a cold or warm sleeper? I am hoping this and a quilt I am putting together from Ray Jardine will keep me warm enough during my intended 2009 AT thru-hike. I didn't order the extra insulation though. I am trying to keep weight down and figure I can add more if needed.

wph22840
01-01-2006, 10:54
Dreadie,

I tend to like it a bit cool when I sleep, but NOT cold. I wore an REI fleece undershirt, a pair of Cabela's ThermaStat long underwear bottoms, and a tuttle fur watch cap. My North Face bag that I use as an overquilt is a 2 lb holofil bag with a foot pocket that remains when you unzip. This seemed to help me keep the "quilt" tucked in around me, but let me stick a foot out when I got too warm.

Win

Waterbuffalo
01-03-2006, 21:36
Win
What a great report very informative and precise.

Thanks

Patrick
01-04-2006, 12:55
Win, thank you for posting that excellent review. I'll be putting up the version you sent me soon, including the great picture as well. I love pictures.

Big Dawg
01-04-2006, 22:12
Win, great report!! I just bought a used HH, & just took it out for a dayhike to find a spot to set it up & finally try out this hammock thang. OK, I understand all the fuss now,,, WHAT COMFORT!!! Well,, there's one thing I found out quickly,, I don't prefer to use a pad. I have a Pro-lite 4 long, & it was a pain in the a$$ to keep it under me & situated properly. I can completely understand why hammockers love their underquilts sooo much. I'll be either making or purchasing a kickass underquilt. Win, it's great to see the version you used worked so well in cold temps,, as most of my camping is fall, winter, spring. Patrick, I'm sure we'll be talking soon!! :sun

Patrick
01-04-2006, 22:22
Dawg,

Sounds good. About time you got a hammock! Wait until you get to climb in after a 20-mile day.

I'm going to be making a couple this weekend and will be taking more pictures for the Make Your Own section, so you should check that out next week. I hope you go for it. Nothing like using stuff you made yourself.

hammock engineer
01-04-2006, 22:43
Patrick

Your directions look really helpful. I am going to make a down one and use your pattern and modify your directions (I know I should of made one by now, I only got your pattern a couple months ago on another thread).

Can you post more picks on the actual suspension system and how it attaches to the hammock. That is the only thing that I am unsure about.

SGT Rock
01-04-2006, 23:36
That cammo version sure looks sweet. Good job.

eyewall
01-04-2006, 23:58
Thanks for the report Win. I'm looking into an underquilt as well, but undecided. I do well with my BA Air Core, since that is all I've experienced. Hey Dreadie, how far along are you with your quilt? I'm getting ready to cut insulation, so about step 4 I think...

Patrick
01-05-2006, 01:55
Engineer,

I'll be posting more pics this weekend. In the meantime, I've drawn up a diagram to try to help clarify things.

Attachment is really simple and extremely adjustable. It's ten thousand words to explain, but two seconds to actually do.

You tie included prussik loops onto each of your hammock ropes. You can leave them on for good. The underquilt has long elastic attachment loops on each end. Each one of those has a cord lock on the end. The cord locks toggle into the prussik loops and it's attached.

In "cold mode" each pair of end corners is clipped together over the hammock ridgeline. This wraps the whole underquilt up and around you.

In "warm mode" the corners are left unclipped and the side tie-outs of your Hennessy can be threaded through loops on the side of the underquilt.

There's adjustable perimeter elastic around the whole thing which keeps out drafts and keeps it snug.

hammock engineer
01-05-2006, 02:05
That helps out a lot. Thanks.

Dreadie
01-05-2006, 18:26
eyewall, I am temporarily on hold. I have it at my in-laws house to avoid all the animal hair here. I haven't had time over the holidays and this week I had a cold I didn't want to pass on to them (they're in their eighties - really cool people.) I have the three layers (the 2 sil-nyl and folded over insulation) clothespinned together waiting to be sewn together. After that I can bring it home to work on because the insulation will be safe from "contamination". So are you making one too?
Patrick, how's the underquilt you're making me coming? Or is that what you're working on this weekend? Thanks again!

Patrick
01-05-2006, 18:37
Dreadie,

Coming along. I'm still waiting on the insulation, but there's plenty I can do without it. According to UPS, it should arrive tomorrow. Assuming it does, I'll be finishing up yours this weekend. If you don't mind, I'm going to snap a few pictures of it while I do the test fit. I just realized practically every picture on my site is camo. So, you'll be famous.

You're not really using sil-nylon on your top quilt, are you?

It's looking like there's going to be plenty of 24 mixed in with the O Brother. Erica and I have been on a mission with that show lately.

Dreadie
01-05-2006, 18:49
Patrick, WooHoo! I'm getting so antsy to try these out during one of my after work naps this winter!
MY quilt? Famous? Cool!
No- you're right, it is NOT sil-nyl - my bad.
You did watch O Brother? What's 24?
Can't wait to get it!

Patrick
01-05-2006, 18:54
Haven't watched O Brother (again) yet, but definitely will. 24 is that show with Kiefer Sutherland that takes place in "real time". It's pretty dreadful, but we're hopeless hooked on the DVDs.

Glad your quilt isn't going to drown you. When I first saw the SPE, I really wanted to try it out, so I made one out of some scrap sil I had laying around. Very gross.

hammock engineer
01-06-2006, 00:31
I finished last season's 24 on DVD last week. It is by far my favorite show. It is one of those that you can't wait. I usually ended up watching 3+ shows a day.

eyewall
01-07-2006, 02:17
Yes Dreadie. Will test it out before it warms above freezing for more than a week or two straight. So, I got until mid-late March. Its a three layer too.