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Darwin again

09-11-2006, 15:02

Always good to hear from devolving sub-species.;)

So assuming you can grasp the simple concept of MPD and distance to Katahdin, what was wrong about posting the fact that your love interest is going about half the speed of other hikers? Also your getting in a tizzy because I reported what others think of the person you blindly worship doesn't affect their view of him one whit.

Herr Neandertal bloviates again.
Blah, blah-blah, blah, blah.
Happy-happy, joy-joy.

So, I guess SOMEBODY is doing mileage spreadsheets on old MS. Show us you math, oh great one. Please include start date versus mileage to Kent with an average othereof. Average mileage through the Whites does not a hike make, oh blowhard genuis.
Show us the math...unless you're skeered. Bawk! Bawk!:D

Dances with Mice

09-11-2006, 15:05

Then how, paradoxically, can we be talking about MS? :-?Not bad. On topic. Concise. Extra points for polysyllabalicism. I'll give it 6.2 out of 10.

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 15:11

Actually, Darwin, O.F. has raised a perfectly legitimate point.

There are something like 298 miles between Gorham and Katahdin.

If Smith manages to hike at 10 miles a day (which I don't believe is possible for him in Maine), it'll take him 30 days to get to Katahdin.

If he hikes at 8 miles a day, he won't get there til AFTER 15 October.

If he stays at 6 MPD, then it'll take him fifty days to finish, i.e. around 1 November, as O.F. said.

Anyone who told Smith, or led him to believe that it's about to get easier for him either doesn't know what they're talking about, or more likely, has never hiked southern Maine. The Gorham to Andover stretch contains some of the hardest mileage of the entire Trail, and will in all likelihood, take him around a week to complete, and perhaps more.

Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying he won't finish. However, it's going to be very difficult for him to do so, and frankly, I'll be very surprised if he gets
to Katahdin by the fifteenth.

As to O.F.'s other comments which Darwin termed "incoherent, negative, rotten-spirited, bitter, arrogant", well I entertained around 150 hikers at my place in Hanover the past few weeks, most of whom knew or had met Smith.

Nearly all of them agreed with the hikers O.F. quoted. He ain't exactly popular with his peers.

That being said, I myself wish him well, I believe he's still capable of completing his trip, and I hope he's willing to do what's necessary, even if it means a cold, late finish.

Time will tell, but right now, time is not his friend.

Micky

09-11-2006, 15:11

I think those two should have to sit on the trail and hold hands til they kiss a make up.:D

Dances with Mice

09-11-2006, 15:12

Herr Neandertal bloviates .... Blah, blah-blah, blah, blah. Happy-happy, joy-joy..... Show us you math, oh great one... oh blowhard genuis...unless you're skeered. Bawk! Bawk!:DNo score. This does not meet The Thread standards. Remedial training is required.

Darwin again

09-11-2006, 15:21

Time will tell, but right now, time is not his friend.

Roger that. The realists win.

OK. I give.

end of thread, end of history.

The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 15:27

Darwin Again-"Show us you math, oh great one."All the info is right in this thread, sorry you can't do the simple math. Have someone show you how to figure when he arrived in Hanover and when he arrived in Gorham by actually reading this thread.

Darwin Again-"Average mileage through the Whites does not a hike make,..." One of the more brilliant things you've said, almost makes it up to inane! Apparently you aren't familiar with the A.T. or you'd know the Whites are just the warm-up for Maine. Ask any hiker.

Darwin Ad Nauseam-"Show us the math...unless you're skeered. Bawk! Bawk!"You're making those strange noises again. Either your medication has worn off or you're going to challange me to another duel.:p I thought your keeper told you to chill out.:D

Skyline

09-11-2006, 15:56

Anyone who told Smith, or led him to believe that it's about to get easier for him either doesn't know what they're talking about, or more likely, has never hiked southern Maine. The Gorham to Andover stretch contains some of the hardest mileage of the entire Trail, and will in all likelihood, take him around a week to complete, and perhaps more.

And then he gets a brief respite before tackling Rangeley>Stratton. That section kicked my azz--twice! Hard to say which section is tougher, they both are, but I don't see MS doing much more than a half-dozen MPD through most of it once you factor in zeroes and weather.

Don't you think MS would be wise to go to Monson once he does reach Andover, hike north and get the Wilderness and BSP done before he does anything else? He could then come back and go do Andover>Monson.

He already has one hole to fill between Kent and Gorham, what's another one?

Darwin again

09-11-2006, 16:00

As to O.F.'s other comments which Darwin termed "incoherent, negative, rotten-spirited, bitter, arrogant", well I entertained around 150 hikers at my place in Hanover the past few weeks, most of whom knew or had met Smith.

Nearly all of them agreed with the hikers O.F. quoted. He ain't exactly popular with his peers.

Hedging your your bets, Jack? "He might still make it..."

I was anticipating the "incoherent, negative, rotten-spirited, bitter, arrogant" reply which did materialize. The Old Flatus is as predictable as a broken clock.

Every thru hiker I met this season who talked about M.Smith had something negative to say about him. But note that Smith is only irksome if you take his ideas seriously, which means legitimizing them with your indignation, as if they really matter in the big scheme of things.

I don't worry that Smith is going to usurp my belief systems or steal my women or overthrow my government if he says something poor little me might not like or agree with. To me, he's no different than the rest of the big-headed comic book characters (we all know who they are) who occupy the Trail and take themselves so seriously as to pass judgment on other hikers. At least MS is interesting to talk to, unlike other boors who make sport out of tossing rhetorical rocks at others. I don't have a political/social/groupthink/educational litmus test for the hikers I meet or help. Remember that MS is out doing something he loves to do, just like we all love it. We share that love with him. Give him his due as a hiker. You don't even have to love him, but like it or not, he's one of us.

And if you think MS cares if people like him or not, you're missing the point completely.

Playing right to the lowest-common-denominator crowd opinion, ie. "OF is right! Nobody much likes him so we don't neither! ARGH, AT pirates are WE!" is a baldly political, crowd-pleasing act. It's also very similar to the way Bryson played to the gallery in his book making hikers look like goofs. He distanced himself from the hiking crowd just like the crowd now appears to be distancing itself from Smith. Just too much.

My best friend got killed last two Fridays ago, so after a week of dealing with the funeral, burial and associated festivities, I'm running a bit hot.:sun

Peace or KMA, take your pick.

~Darwin

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 16:06

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 16:19

Darwin:

Sorry to hear about your friend.

In re. to your question, no, I'm not hedging my bets, but then I never had a bet going in the first place. I seem to recall WAAAAAY back when, in the early days of this thread, that I commented that folks who were betting on Smitty's chances were doing something pretty tacky.

So I have no bet to hedge.

What I was saying is that his mileage has deteriorated as he's gotten further north, and he's running out of time. He also has recurrent health issues, and he really can't afford to take any extra time off if he falls ill again.

Do I think he can still finish the trip this year? Yes, but I don't think he'll make it to Katahdin by the 15th. He'll either have to finish after that date, or more likely, skip a chunk of Maine and come back to fill it in later.

Also, since you seem to concur with me about how Smitty's viewed by his peers, then I think your comments to O.F. were a bit over the top.

And please don't include me in the group that doesn't like him. Unlike most of the folks on this thread, I've met with him (several times during his journey), have talked with him, had a drink with him (!!), gone thru his gear at his request, entertained him in my home, fed him at hiker events, and have actually gotten to know him quite well. I've always wished him well on his trip and I truly hope he completes it.

That being said, I'm also aware of how he's viewed by many of his contemporaries.

But you're right, Smitty goes his own way, speaks his own mind, and is willing to live with the consequences. I certainly don't agree with everything he's said and written before and during his hike, but I respect him for doing things his way, saying what he thinks, and to hell with the consequences.

Truly, I'm looking forward to his completing the trip. It'll make a lot of armchair experts---most of whom haven't thru-hiked and probably never will----eat crow, and this is not a bad thing at all.

Mother's Finest

09-11-2006, 16:50

Yeah, Darwin is capable of more I believe.

I was looking thru my Guide, and think that I have figured out the troubles Smith is having. He is not carrying a towel....

this is crucial for survival in the universe.

peace
mf

Skyline

09-11-2006, 17:05

Skyline--

If he wants to finish before 15 October, this is EXACTLY what he should do, especially if it takes him eight or nine days to get from Gorham to Andover, as I suspect it will.

Jumping to Monson from either Andover (or perhaps Stratton) and then filling in the odd bits after he's done with Baxter would be the wisest thing for him.
Their are plenty of local shuttlers and/or hostel owners who can help him out.
(The sections he'd be skipping are nothing to sneer at, by the way, so if he does come back to tackle Saddleback, the Bigelows, etc. in early or mid-October, I hope he brings some company along. I've been thru there in October, and it can get pretty dicey late in the season).

Climbing Katahdin after 15 October can certainly be done, but it's kind of a pain in the ass, never mind risky as far as weather goes. I know people who have finished as late as 1 November, and their Katahdin summit shots look like Scott of the Antarctic.

In my opinion, thisis NOT the way he should plan on ending his trip.

I was under the impression that after October 15, or whenever they declare Winter in a particular year, that BSP will not allow anyone to climb Katahdin unless they are a group (of four or so, I recall), have convinced BSP rangers they have exemplary winter summitting skills, and have certain winter gear. Is this true, and if not, do you know what kind of post-Oct. 15 policies there are in BSP re: Katahdin?

Given your correct assessments of Saddleback, Bigelows, etc. it does indeed seem like with every passing day MS' options get narrower and that he will need some luck in the Weather Dept. That he has alienated so many before and during his hike doesn't bode well for potential hiking partners either.

Maybe he should just go and get K out of the way now, come back and do the most challenging sections next, then fill in the rest at his "leisure" between then and New Year's Eve. :-)

Of course, if it was me I'd be going back next year to complete the AT, but I was never obsessed with calendar years.

Lugnut

09-11-2006, 17:11

By now, our man Minnesota knows the Trail isn't as difficult as various people claim. Everyone's perspective is bent to suit their agendas. Those doomsayers probably watch lots of TeeVee news and believe anything they see or read. (Remember how various expert commentators claimed MS wouldn't get out of Georgia?) Chattahoochie? Check. Nantahala? Check. Cherokee? Check. George Washington? Check. Smokies? Check. Harpers? Check. Shennies? Check. Rocksyltucky? Check. Bear Mountain? Check. Whites? Check. Carters and Wildcats? Check. Mahoosic? Coming right up...

He isn't buying the hype anymore, just walking his walk. He knows he's a free man, unafraid. Some people don't even know they are free and want to keep others down in the gutter with them, fettered by fear. Smith is now immune to the defeatist, whining talk.

The gravitational force of Big K is pulling him northward.
One step at a time, Minnesota!:sun

This reads as if Matthewski had written it except the spelling is better! :banana :D

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 17:12

Actually, while I suspect he'll complete all his fill-in miles, well before then, he can still finish after 1 January. After all quite a few Southboundrs don't finish til after New Year's Day. A thru-hike is one (reasonably) continuous, uninterrupted traverse of the A.T.; it doesn't necessarily have to be contained in one specific year. It is the continuity of the journey that matters, and except for short breaks, Smith's hike certainly qualifies as a thru, even if it extends into 2007.

Darwin again

09-11-2006, 17:17

Darwin:

Sorry to hear about your friend. ...

Truly, I'm looking forward to his completing the trip. It'll make a lot of armchair experts---most of whom haven't thru-hiked and probably never will----eat crow, and this is not a bad thing at all.

Thanks, Jack. My friend and I were like brothers, I knew him for 19 years.

I was ribbing about the bet hedge...btw.

You actually got MS to have a drink? That's an accomplishment. He wouldn't touch a drop when he was down here...

Yes, MS looks to be up between a walk and a cold, rocky place.
I only wish him well, no mattter what ambivalence that may arouse in the studio audience. ;)

~Darwin

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 17:22

darwins post is very very funny. hes pushing the fun envelope beyond acceptable limits.( acceptable to fartski)now as far as minnisota smith making an impression on others. he has made political enimys not friendly enimys. the people who ask his oppinion then puke then hate him for it suck. the people who ask his opinion , puke and remain friendly are not offended by him. just by his bent. and thats called not being irac or iran. now what do we call the folks who like him and his every idea? we call him matthewski. i am his friend and his enimeys only make him stronger and me luckyer. how great is it to stick up for what you belive in the midst of persicution? very cool.now,.. as far as his mileage,...he still has an ace in the hole. his ability to go faster and further each day. dont underestimate it. and were not betting on a longshot here. hes a sure thing. dont ever doubt me again. any of you. or ill post funny things about your mothers mothers.now,..there will be no bears while you are sleeping. and also,..minnisota smith dosnt have an angry bone in him so quit trying to cuthim up and admit you are jellouse and angry with yourself for not hiking this year. you non hiking armchair presidents of fart.get up off your mouse pad and post an apoligy and words of inspiration and cheers of well done and good luck. and stop making me come down here. unless you want to be excommunicated from the church of the holy seperate thread.

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The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 17:35

Mother's Finest-"I was looking thru my Guide, and think that I have figured out the troubles Smith is having. He is not carrying a towel....

this is crucial for survival in the universe."Ah, but don't forget 3 pints of bitters and the salted peanuts!;)

Ford-"It's unpleasantly like being drunk"
Arthur-"What's so unpleasant about being drunk?"
Ford-"You ask a glass of water"

STEVEM

09-11-2006, 17:51

Minnesota Smith has at least one major character flaw that I noticed. He says "Thank You" for the help you are able to provide, and I think he actually means it.

Heater

09-11-2006, 17:55

There are something like 298 miles between Gorham and Katahdin.

What is the "point of no return", so to speak? Where do hikers have their last chance of skipping forward to summit before they get into an area where that option is either impractical or unavailable to them?

Just Jeff

09-11-2006, 18:00

Point of order re: the rules as posted by the chair. Jokes about bodily functions are always game. Seconds?

matthewski, The Origin of the Feces is an album by Type O Negative.

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:03

i truly dont think their is a point but a curve. exsperts with a grop and full gear can go up any day of the week any year of the life. and fools with stupid crap and no gear and jeans arnt allowed to buy a postcard of the mountain. the modern era of ours lets more things happen in the hikers favor. for instance. if ford wantet to land a jeep on top for a commercial the answer would be yes. if an exspert hiker wants to shoot off a flare ,.. no. rules become murky once you have enough of them. i really think minnisota smith has alot of clout being so long on trail and so spoken of.of course i never went to maine ,....or school,........ or much of anywhere sept around the blocks in center city. around and around and around.

weary

09-11-2006, 18:04

I was under the impression that after October 15, or whenever they declare Winter in a particular year, that BSP will not allow anyone to climb Katahdin unless they are a group (of four or so, I recall), have convinced BSP rangers they have exemplary winter summitting skills, and have certain winter gear. Is this true, and if not, do you know what kind of post-Oct. 15 policies there are in BSP re: Katahdin?

Given your correct assessments of Saddleback, Bigelows, etc. it does indeed seem like with every passing day MS' options get narrower and that he will need some luck in the Weather Dept. That he has alienated so many before and during his hike doesn't bode well for potential hiking partners either.

Maybe he should just go and get K out of the way now, come back and do the most challenging sections next, then fill in the rest at his "leisure" between then and New Year's Eve. :-)

Of course, if it was me I'd be going back next year to complete the AT, but I was never obsessed with calendar years.
The only thing that happens on October 15 is the closing of the campground, which greatly complicates the logistics of summiting.

You essentially have to stay outside the park, where accomodations are few, and arrange for transportation in each morning until a good day arrives that persuades the rangers to open the trail.

Winter rules don't kick in until Dec. 1. After that date MS's chances of summitting while obeying the rules are slim to non existent.

But usually there are spots of good weather through early November that allow a summit attempt. The mountain doesn't finally shut down to day hikes until permanent snow conditions arrive which can be as early as September 15, but rarely.

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:07

point of no return is boston or kansass. type who negitive? never heard of em. never owned music but i play music on instruments.minnisota smith is a big fat slowpoke and the only reason hes not finnished is cause he stops to talk too much.

Heater

09-11-2006, 18:08

The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 18:09

mweinstone-"he has made political enimys not friendly enimys."Well, I guess that all goes as to how you define politics. MS has told people he's on the trail to audition a wife even though no woman can stand him and few, if any, women on the trail wear the prerequisite dress.;)

Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.

"You're too fat to hike the trail" Reply-"I may be fat but I'm passing you!"
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
“Hi, I’m Minnesota Smith, you probably have heard of me. You can tell me your name but I’ll forget it right away.”

Try googling "high-functioning people with autism and Asperger syndrome "

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:12

i thaught a nice bordoe with some bri and crackers would suit.staryte? dinosaurus? sly and your family witch is made of stone? the lone rangers illegitemate bastard son lone wolf?he smokes so much he needs shades of grey? how bout you?!

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 18:14

Aus:

It depends on a few factors, such as the health/conditioning of the hiker; their hiking pace; how much time they plan to take off; and especially, the weather.

In terms of when it's "too late" to flip, I personally wouldn't want to be in the White Mountains after mid-October, and nobody should consider being there anytime after 1 October unless they have appropriate gear, clothing, and experience.

As far as difficulty of terrain, the toughest part of Maine is the stretch from Gorham to Andover. It's only just over 40 miles, but can be a real beast in bad weather. I've been thru Mahoosuc Notch in the rain and it ain't a whole lot of fun. I wouldn't wanna be here in mid or late October (or later) unless I was sure the weather was going to be great.

Andover to Stratton is almost as tough, and the Stratton to Caratunk section is as well, at least the first half is. Avery Pnorth of Stratton is utterly miserable when it's wet and cold.

Caratunk to Monson is much easier, and while the first few days north of Monson are pretty solid, around the last 50 miles before you get to Baxter is pretty much flat.

All that being said, hiking New Hampshire late is probably more difficult than most of Maine. If one were going to skip or flip-flop, I'd definitely try and get thru the Whites BEFORE doing so, and hopefully, get as far as Andover. Maine can certainly be done in mid to late October or even later, tho one has a great chance of encountering rough weather in the higher peaks, and when it's cold and wet, such places as the Mahoosucs, Old Speck, Baldpate, Saddleback, the Crockers, Avery Peak and the Bigelows, and Whitecap can be very tough.

Bottom line is you can flip or skip as far North as you want, but I'd try real hard to get New Hampshire finished FIRST, and I'd be prepared for some rough days in the higher parts of Maine if you're gona be hiking after the middle of October. If you expect to be out til November or afterwards, plan on winter weather and conditions in the higher elevations.

(Lastly, parts of Vermont can be interesting if you end up doing them in October or later; southern Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and points south can be hiked well into the autumn or even early winter, so folks who've by-passed these sections to be hiked later will be fine, other than putting up with some cold and wet. Other than at the highest points, like Greylock for example, southern new England doesn't see much snow before December).

StarLyte

09-11-2006, 18:15

And then he gets a brief respite before tackling Rangeley>Stratton. That section kicked my azz--twice! Hard to say which section is tougher, they both are, but I don't see MS doing much more than a half-dozen MPD through most of it once you factor in zeroes and weather.

Don't you think MS would be wise to go to Monson once he does reach Andover, hike north and get the Wilderness and BSP done before he does anything else? He could then come back and go do Andover>Monson.

He already has one hole to fill between Kent and Gorham, what's another one?

Maybe he is trying to live up to our expectations instead of doing what is most sensible and easiest for him. It could be something as simple as his pride. Am I reading this all wrong?

Maybe everyone here should say it's OKAY MS to flip flop!

Maybe I'm wrong and he'll make it.

MS---HYOH!

What the hell do I know? I'm just a section hiker.....but I am a sensible hiker.

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 18:17

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:18

can you just tell me what that asprin disese is . its so long and technikle to read.

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:22

ya know how every modern thing drops of the trail in maine? i mean theres this point where you say goodby to cell service and web. and roads go next. then you hit the park and ,.. whoops!.... there go my constitutional fredoms! a joke for you.and what is the rule if i see you on a plane and yell HI, JACK! ?

The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 18:23

StarLyte-"Maybe everyone here should say it's OKAY MS to flip flop!"I also said that over a month ago and his groupies thought that idea was sacrilege. Maybe he needs new advisors.

the goat

09-11-2006, 18:31

Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.

"You're too fat to hike the trail" Reply-"I may be fat but I'm passing you!"
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
“Hi, I’m Minnesota Smith, you probably have heard of me. You can tell me your name but I’ll forget it right away.”

you've got to be kidding me! who says things like that to other people, especially women?

wasn't someone singing the praises of MS's chivalrous nature not too long ago?

p.s. i love the response in comment #1.:D

StarLyte

09-11-2006, 18:37

can you just tell me what that asprin disese is . its so long and technikle to read.

Matthewski----what are you talking about buddy? You know, I'm going to help you out on this one: click here (http://thorax.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/55/suppl_2/S66) OR click here (http://www2b.biglobe.ne.jp/~dr-ok/zstudy.html).

Are you coming to the Gathering? I got a fried bologna samich with yer name on it.

Darwin again

09-11-2006, 18:53

Well, I guess that all goes as to how you define politics. MS has told people he's on the trail to audition a wife even though no woman can stand him and few, if any, women on the trail wear the prerequisite dress.;)

Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.

"You're too fat to hike the trail" Reply-"I may be fat but I'm passing you!"
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
“Hi, I’m Minnesota Smith, you probably have heard of me. You can tell me your name but I’ll forget it right away.”

Try googling "high-functioning people with autism and Asperger syndrome "
Now THAT is entertainment! :banana:banana:banana

Darwin again

09-11-2006, 18:55

Matthewski----what are you talking about buddy? You know, I'm going to help you out on this one: click here (http://thorax.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/55/suppl_2/S66) OR click here (http://www2b.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Edr-ok/zstudy.html).

Are you coming to the Gathering? I got a fried bologna samich with yer name on it.

I think he was talking about Asperger's. Impossible to rule out....

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 18:57

StarLyte

09-11-2006, 19:10

those two little words real men love to here. i thaught i was alone. how much fryed baloney are we talking about.? i need about a pound an hour if im gonna be breathin air laced with anything fried.can we mail fried baloney to mr smith of lost in space formerly known as the hiker named minnisota smith?

Matthewski sir, I was serious about the fried bologna sandwiches. Sliced very thick, fried German bologna samiches served on hot home made pumperknickel bread. Yes I will ship it to you if I have to. I am assuming Mr. Smith will be coming to the Gathering. I will have one with his name on it too. He gets Cognac with his.

ed bell

09-11-2006, 19:16

wasn't someone singing the praises of MS's chivalrous nature not too long ago?I thought I remember reading about that myself. Then again, I also read this:http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=233866&postcount=56
Talk about bodily functions.:eek: Broccoli and liver, oh my! Oh well, I guess at the end of the day it's just words. I'm actually becoming more jealous of MS's hike with each passing day. I always wanted to try to take my sweet time to finish a thru-hike.:sun

Skidsteer

09-11-2006, 19:22

those two little words real men love to here.

Matthewski sir, I was serious about the fried bologna sandwiches. Sliced very thick, fried German bologna samiches served on hot home made pumperknickel bread.

I think you got his attention with that one, StarLyte. :)

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 19:30

pumpernickle is my fav ever since i read a day in the life of ivan denisovitch by solgenitzen.shukove survived the goulag with gruel and pumpernickle. will there be gruel? i bet minisota smith misses gruel.

Old Hillwalker

09-11-2006, 19:46

Well, I guess that all goes as to how you define politics. MS has told people he's on the trail to audition a wife even though no woman can stand him and few, if any, women on the trail wear the prerequisite dress
"

I kin probably fix him up with a Skidder Gal or two to interview when he gets to either Rangely or Bigelow. If they get advance notice they will wear their dresses and have their teeth in;)

bfitz

09-11-2006, 19:57

Matthewski sir, I was serious about the fried bologna sandwiches. Sliced very thick, fried German bologna samiches served on hot home made pumperknickel bread. Yes I will ship it to you if I have to. I am assuming Mr. Smith will be coming to the Gathering. I will have one with his name on it too. He gets Cognac with his.
I want one!!

Jack Tarlin

09-11-2006, 20:02

Starlyte--

I dunno if Smity's gonna make it to the Gathering....unless you wanna bring him down with you in your vehicle! Something tells me he's still gonna be hiking.

But it'd be great if he could make it. It'd make for one helluva interesting road trip, espcially if you guys layover at the Doyle. :D

And best part, in that you're a year or two past 27, I think you'd be perfectly safe.

The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 20:15

Jack Tarlin-"And best part, in that you're a year or two past 27, I think you'd be perfectly safe."I guess that means you and I are safe too, Jack.:D

ed bell

09-11-2006, 20:17

Well, I guess that all goes as to how you define politics. MS has told people he's on the trail to audition a wife even though no woman can stand him and few, if any, women on the trail wear the prerequisite dress.;)

Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.
.......
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
........Maybe when he's done hiking he can stop by Greenville,SC for some urban pink-blazing.;) I've got just the place:http://www.bju.edu/
All skirts, all the time.:sun

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 20:22

bfitz

09-11-2006, 20:22

I guess that means you and I are safe too, Jack.:D
Don't kid yourself, you were never of any biological significance to MS.

Unless.......

ed bell

09-11-2006, 20:27

we've picked minnisota smith clean. we've rosted ,poched,fried,steemed,sauted,stir fried,baked,tosted,pickled,dryed,dehydrated,freeze dryed, microwaved, fermented,distilled,marinated,smoked,potched,seare d,stewed,simmered,flame broiled,charcole broiled, grilled,salted,dunked and flambayed him. were done! end of thread !Say the word DWM and we can ask the good SGT. to lock her up.:D I actually have often wondered how this is gonna end.:-? (The thread, not the hike.:D)

Skidsteer

09-11-2006, 20:35

Say the word DWM and we can ask the good SGT. to lock her up.:D I actually have often wondered how this is gonna end.:-? (The thread, not the hike.:D)

We must await the Revelation.

Dances with Mice

09-11-2006, 21:05

Say the word DWM and we can ask the good SGT. to lock her up.As Super Thread-Starter Man I can only use my powers for Good, not Evil.

Gray Blazer

09-11-2006, 21:09

Wait! I've got to post on this thread before it disappears. Everybody else has! You go, MS. You are now a trail legend with your oxlyness!

Dances with Mice

09-11-2006, 21:26

Wait! I've got to post on this thread before it disappears. Everybody else has!
Who says its quittin’ time - I's the foreman - I says when its quittin' time – QUITTIN’ TIIIIME!!!!! (http://www.reelclassics.com/Audio_Video/Quotes7r/gwtw_quittintime.wav)

We can't quit yet. Has MS quit? Did the US quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No other hiker has ever been as influenced by decisions made in the open on a W-B thread as MS. The thread don't stop until he does.

mweinstone

09-11-2006, 21:40

seriously,..we've joked alot about artistic endevers forged from the thread. but as an artist ,.. i got the idea in my mind for a play in witch actors who play us thread members simply read the posts as they mill around the stage doing whatever it is that defines that person.so for instance ,lone wolf would be drinking and lounging and mothers finest would be laughing uncontrolably at a computer and starlyte would be in a bikini under lamps in a lawn chair with a drink and a bottle of oil. and so on and so forth. i would be playing with gear and old fart would be ,,... i dont know what it is he does. and wolf23000 would be talking to passerbys about hiking and minnisota smith would be on a big screen hiking live as we comentate. well ill go work on it some more. its still in the brain phase. later when it gets to the paper stage maby ill post it. but i acctually think it could be made interesting as its messege would be,... hey , look at this weird crossection of people interacting over a weirdo doing something weird. its genius.

Gray Blazer

09-11-2006, 22:11

the goat

09-11-2006, 22:35

I always wanted to try to take my sweet time to finish a thru-hike.:sun

then you need to hike w/ me, ed.

pct next year is the plan, sweet ass time will be taken. you down?

STEVEM

09-11-2006, 23:41

The Old Fhart

09-11-2006, 23:57

STEVEM-"Does anyone see Dick Cheney as Minnesota Smith and George W. Bush as mweinstone?"No, not actually. The best comparisons are in posts #973-#983, check it out.

STEVEM

09-12-2006, 00:29

No, not actually. The best comparisons are in posts #973-#983, check it out.

Agreed, but I was considering post Whitehouse opportunities for Bush and Cheney. Unlike Bill Clinton, the "speechifyin" bidness may not be available to Bush. Cheney may have some some limited success as a quail hunting instructor/consultant/guide.

Hillary Clinton has done well in her acting career after leaving the Oval Office. Maybe Bush and Cheney could follow her lead.

Panzer1

09-12-2006, 00:30

mweinstone

09-12-2006, 08:21

what will we do special for him? make tee shirts?"i was thread"" minnisota smith update"" the thread""minnisota smith gamer o6"????????????

mweinstone

09-12-2006, 08:37

seven months today!

Sly

09-12-2006, 17:41

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif how long has he been out?
seven months today!

I didn't know MS was gay! :p

Sly

09-12-2006, 17:49

OK.

7 months on the trail, 1600 miles hiked = 7.6 MPD. 575 miles left divided by 7.6 = 76 days or Nov 17th estimated finish.

Heater

09-12-2006, 18:54

Aus--

One can actually get off the Trail NORTH of Monson and get up to Baxter, tho it's kind of a pain in the ass, especially if you're paying shuttle fees. At least one of these roads is privately owned, so user fees will be charged.

Anyone contemplating "jumping ahead" this late in the game would probably be better off to do it no later than Monson, as it's on a major road, there are hiker facilites there, local shuttlers, safe places to leave vehicles, etc.

Thanks for the info, Jack. It seems there is much more talk about the Southern part of the trail here on WB. It is good to get the details from one of few that live that far up the trail.

I have family just north of Hartford Ct. and will be stretching the time out up there between the trail and two or three weeks of zeros visiting them. This is the part of the trail that I really need to try have some sort of plan to make it work.

Darwin again

09-12-2006, 20:57

As public service to The Thread, I attempted to retreive MS's shelter register entry from the Paul Wolfe Shelter this afternoon.

It appears that a certain Mister Wolf had already been called to go down to the shelter, clean up the blood and brain matter that is the inevitable result of MS's incendiary prosody, and then make the register in question "disappear." It was disappeared, "replaced" by one beginning some time in July.

In keeping with the tradition of whacked and disturbed karma that flows magically from MS's perambulations (the gentle reader mustn't forget my first adventure with him in which he locked my car keys securely into the trunk of my car in the parking lot of the Waynesboro, Va., Wally World), I decided to bushwack up the streambed from the shelter to the Blue Ridge Parkway. That was Mistake number Two (the first having been going there in the first place, despite my being in dire need of an AT fix.). No matter what I did or how I stacked it, the dog and I needed to go back up the 1,000 or so feet to the Humpback parking area I had descended to the Shelter. What goes up must come down. A fool and his gravity are soon parted, etc.

After letting the dog get a good drink from the stream (this ferocious animal of mine being kept on an "overly long leash" so that she might attack, bite and kill Minnesota Smith should we miraculously come upon him, even in spirit, we proceeded to bushwack up to the parkway via every massive undisturbed spiderweb possible and along an old ATV track that ran back and forth across muddy seeps. After two hours, we were back at the car, mudded, tired, and alas, all for naught. I really wanted to post that entry here, merely as a tertiary, supplemental item of interest.

:rolleyes:

Sly

09-12-2006, 21:17

As public service to The Thread, I attempted to retreive MS's shelter register entry from the Paul Wolfe Shelter this afternoon.

Sounds like a personal problem... :rolleyes:

Darwin again

09-12-2006, 21:21

Lighten up dorkus.

Jack Tarlin

09-12-2006, 21:29

Maybe there was a new register at Wolfe cuz the old one got filled up. :-?

Sly

09-12-2006, 21:41

Lighten up dorkus.

Lighten up dorkus!

After your little tirade in the center of your mind, I'm the dorkus? OK! :D

WalkinHome

09-12-2006, 21:46

Hey Old Fhart,

Should I maybe go get MS and have him come down with us?

Jack Tarlin

09-12-2006, 21:49

Thank Christ I'll already be there! :D

StarLyte

09-12-2006, 21:58

Hey Old Fhart,

Should I maybe go get MS and have him come down with us?

Okay Ray, well you get MS's cognac then.

Dances with Mice

09-12-2006, 22:11

Okay Ray, well you get MS's cognac then.Cognac for MS has to be approved by a panel of The Thread's official taste testers.

The panel may form a line right behind me...

Darwin again

09-12-2006, 22:15

Al Co Hol Ism is fun, isn't it, guys? :banana:banana:banana
Sorry, this isn't my kind of bar.

Skidsteer

09-12-2006, 22:15

Cognac for MS has to be approved by a panel of The Thread's official taste testers.

The panel may form a line right behind me...

Ahem... yes indeed. We wouldn't want to sudject him to sub-par cognac.

I volunteer in the tradition of Trail Angeldom. Now where did I put my snifter?.....

bfitz

09-12-2006, 22:27

Al Co Hol Ism is fun, isn't it, guys? :banana:banana:banana
Sorry, this isn't my kind of bar.Yes! I am an alcoholist.

mweinstone

09-12-2006, 22:46

they wanted to know whats all this about minnisota smith not posting from gorham. he said he would post later and he had the whole day. jack? give me the answer. why no post gorham kirk? large ugly bag mostly water move on? no more jerkey now. all gone.life.....

Sly

09-12-2006, 23:33

the goat

09-12-2006, 23:38

Probaly got passed by too many fat girls and pot smokers having fun and packed it in... :(

LOL, i like that theory, sly!:D

mweinstone

09-12-2006, 23:40

i dont think minnisota smith can quit. hes really and truly into his hike. he may be exspirencing townhate.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 00:15

The number of posts in this thread now exceeds the number of miles our intrepid MS has hiked.

That's a bad portent. Unprecedented.

Dances with Mice

09-13-2006, 00:23

If the number of posts were miles, where would The Thread be now?

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 00:24

WalkinHome-"Hey Old Fhart,

Should I maybe go get MS and have him come down with us?What did I do to you to deserve that!:eek:

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 00:29

DWM-"If the number of posts were miles, where would The Thread be now?"Right about where I used to work at 6288 feet elevation.;)

Heater

09-13-2006, 03:47

If the number of posts were miles, where would The Thread be now?

Lake of the Clouds hut?

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 08:23

maine called , he closes in 15 min. so if you want anything, hurry.

Dances with Mice

09-13-2006, 08:56

Right about where I used to work at 6288 feet elevation.Yeah but... The Thread hasn't been purist. It's taken quite a few detours, done a bit of blue-blazing, it's swerved and meandered a bit and gotten turned sideways a time or two. But like its subject it keeps plugging along.

Now I have a confession to make: I yellow-blazed part of The Thread. It's true. After a bit of a break I jumped to the end of The Thread and skipped a few posts. But to earn my 2000 Post Patch I knew I had to go back and make up the missed messages.

Point of order re: the rules as posted by the chair. Jokes about bodily functions are always game. The Thread's Parliamentarian agrees and The Chair is over-ruled.

Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.
"You're too fat to hike the trail" Reply-"I may be fat but I'm passing you!"
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
“Hi, I’m Minnesota Smith, you probably have heard of me. You can tell me your name but I’ll forget it right away.”The first one really bothers me. That just doesn't sound like MS. I'm not questioning your reporting, Mr. Fhart. A hiker told this to you and we all know that hikers never exaggerate, embellish, nor embroider stories about their experiences on the Trail. But it just doesn't feel right. It's missing context, you know? He may have meant it as a joke as in "I'm sure you've heard this one before because I sure have!" I don't know but as they say in Texas, that story just doesn't sit right.

The second one, yeah! That's our guy! Still playing hard-to-get and driving all the women wild.

The third one, yeah, probably. But he didn't mean any harm, it was more of a warning; sort of a 'heads up'. He is a bit absent-minded. Can I get a witness to that, Darwin again?

StarLyte

09-13-2006, 10:00

Hmmmm.....considering the mentality that a thru hiker would feel at this point on the Trail, and having to pass up fat-bottom-girls and free pot, that Katahdin is upstream a bit, and that free cognac is waiting.......I would say that MS is probably experiencing some serious anxiety right about now.

I am sending MS many positive thoughts......the best Trail magic that I can possibly implement from Cleveland Ohio......

Just Jeff

09-13-2006, 11:02

...and having to pass up fat-bottom-girls and free pot...

Hey - "fat-bottom-girls make the rockin' world go 'round." :D

Alligator

09-13-2006, 11:30

Hey - "fat-bottom-girls make the rockin' world go 'round." :DAw man Jeff, that song is one of my top 3 earworms. Thanks:( .

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 13:55

DWM-"Yeah but... The Thread hasn't been purist. It's taken quite a few detours, done a bit of blue-blazing, it's swerved and meandered a bit and gotten turned sideways a time or two. But like its subject it keeps plugging along."Yeah but...as Bryson said:"I don't care what they say, we hiked the Appalachian Trail!":D

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 14:07

The third one, yeah, probably. But he didn't mean any harm, it was more of a warning; sort of a 'heads up'. He is a bit absent-minded. Can I get a witness to that, Darwin again?

Amen, brother Mouse.

I'd like to know the sourcing on these "quotes." Who told them to whom, when, where, and how. Looks like a bad case of gossipy hearsay. At first blush, they seem over the top, but when you imagine MS saying them, they just seem, well, unremarkable. So he tells the truth as he sees it. Nobody, including MS himself, ever claimed MS was a social butterfly. MS is like Shotgun Dick accidentally shooting someone in the face on a hunting trip -- he don't mean no harm and you don't have to hunt with him if you don't want to, based on his, um, history.

It's just a little verbal birdshot.;) Don't hate me because I'm truthiful.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 14:12

I would say that MS is probably experiencing some serious anxiety right about now.

I am sending MS many positive thoughts......the best Trail magic that I can possibly implement from Cleveland Ohio......

Yeas. You know, it's cool and raining in central Virginia right now. I know it's getting nippy up there in Maine. MS no doubt feels the quickening of the season in his bones...

Hike, hike, Minnesota. Don't tarry. Walk from dawn to dusk. The clock, she ticks...

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 16:57

and minnisota smith, you are like stuck pig, no? like freash molasis in nome. your staff , she is like woman with baby , yes?and your 6.7 miles per day, they are like little scared ladies in chair with wheels, they are ,.. no? and your cyring all the time day and night for cuttlefish snacks,.. you are like ,... eating the grossest yes? no? and the oversized whore on your back ,.. she is like sumo wrestler with boyfriend , yes?

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 17:24

Darwin Again-"MS is like Shotgun Dick accidentally shooting someone in the face on a hunting trip --"Actually if the first half of that were true, the second half would have MS with no feet!;)

As to the 3 posted comments I heard directly from the female hikers MS said them to, he is masogonistically (Alligator- does that word qualify for points?:p) enhanced and anyone here has seen him post similar statements time after time . Didn't someone a few pages back state that his views on women were more extreme than the Taliban's?:eek:

Of all the coments about MS I heard from the 13 hikers I saw that weekend, those were the only ones I could post here without violating the rules.

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 17:39

your a lier.

MOWGLI

09-13-2006, 17:43

your a lier.

...said the fly on the wall.

Alligator

09-13-2006, 17:55

TOF, I'll give you one point for every syllahhble and two points for the double word meaning for a total of 9.0.

On a side note, I'll have everyone know that I am on the official panel of taste testers and we do have assigned spots.

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 17:55

ahh,.. minnisota smith ? guess what? bone pac sold his house and bought one on the at in maryland and him and mrs pac and little miss pac man are runnin a hostel for 07. locked loaded and done deal! wow! read all about the newest at stop on his trail journals .the gossip just makes you more mysterious . people belive anything and then pass it on down the line till its kneeded into some sort of horror tale cause they like to play cruel. what else is new. but i would appreciate it if you could play along. hope you got the camera and used it and mailed it so i can post it and members can abuse it. dont even think that every member dosnt respect your hike cause they do to a one . and they really enjoy there target practice.so ya make a great target. worse things happen. and when your done, they'll be sorry they doubted ya cause its cool to bet on a winner and dumb to doubt matthewskis predictions. i predicted the end of the world would come in our lives and it has. and i predicted the end of the trail will come to minnisotsa smith and it will as well, also and verly,verly i tell you all, this smith will finish his task.

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 18:00

if post numbers were dates, he'll finnish sometime around present day?

Heater

09-13-2006, 19:27

STEVEM

09-13-2006, 19:38

and the oversized whore on your back ,.. she is like sumo wrestler with boyfriend , yes?

When I met MS in NJ I offered to ship all his heavy stuff home and buy him a big roll of bubble wrap to stuff into his pack (to preserve the image and legend). He wasn't interested in my idea.

mweinstone

09-13-2006, 20:19

now thats the minnisota smith i know . refusing to do it your way. right on!

Heater

09-13-2006, 20:28

now thats the minnisota smith i know . refusing to do it your way. right on!

Saaaaave the liver! :D

1763! :banana

Heater

09-13-2006, 20:29

Saaaaave the liver!

1763! :banana

Eighteen!

1864! :banana :banana :banana

Heater

09-13-2006, 20:30

Eighteen!

1864!

1865, Whoooooooooohiooooooooooooooooooo!

:banana :banana :banana :banana

Heater

09-13-2006, 20:31

1865, Whoooooooooohiooooooooooooooooooo!

:banana :banana

Meaningless post 1866. :rolleyes:

Whoohoo! :banana

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 20:46

The Old Fhart-"Didn't someone a few pages back state that his views on women were more extreme than the Taliban's?:eek:"

mweinstone-"the old fart -your a lier."

Page 70,Post #1396(referring to MS)-“After all, the Taliban don't complain about their nation's terrain and weather all the time, and they have lots more respect for women.:D”Want to try double or nothing?:p

Alligator

09-13-2006, 21:21

Are you assigned to the MS boiled liver and onions spot? If so, My condolences!

Yeeechhhh! :eek:No no no. No. No. Semi-solid detail is reserved for new panel volunteers. Licking the salt off of MS's pack is a special honor for top poster in The Thread.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 21:23

Actually if the first half of that were true, the second half would have MS with no feet!

As to the 3 posted comments I heard directly from the female hikers MS said them to, he is masogonistically (Alligator- does that word qualify for points?) enhanced and anyone here has seen him post similar statements time after time . Didn't someone a few pages back state that his views on women were more extreme than the Taliban's?

Of all the coments about MS I heard from the 13 hikers I saw that weekend, those were the only ones I could post here without violating the rules.

As incoherant as usual, Ole Flatus. So it's direct heresay. You've been playing Appalachian Trail post office and spreading the gossip on the Internets, and we're supposed to trust you, an MS detractor from the get-go. EXCELLENT! :rolleyes:
(But you're probably right about the above, that Shotgun Dick shot the man on purpose, not accidentally. Just to watch him lie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MRA22y26Fk).)

According to my rubidium dictionary, the word is: misogynistically.
Maybe he's enhanced in other, more important ways and that's what sent the ladies packing in panic? Ever think of THAT?

MS is allegedly seeking a healthy female of breeding age, not more than 27 years old. Anything is possible. (http://modifiedliving.com/amishporn.htm)
Above site is paraody. But this (http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/dance-of-diplomacy-is-grist-for-the/20060913092909990001) isn't, which just goes to show you that anything is possible in the animal kingdom.

Have another bran muffin...they're grrrrreat! :sun

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 21:26

The Old Fhart(post 1782)-Here are some of the comments he has made directly to women hikers.
"You're too fat to hike the trail" Reply-"I may be fat but I'm passing you!"
"You're 27 and too old to be of any biological significance to me."
“Hi, I’m Minnesota Smith, you probably have heard of me. You can tell me your name but I’ll forget it right away.”

DWM-"The first one really bothers me. That just doesn't sound like MS. I'm not questioning your reporting, Mr. Fhart. A hiker told this to you and we all know that hikers never exaggerate, embellish, nor embroider stories about their experiences on the Trail. But it just doesn't feel right. It's missing context, you know? He may have meant it as a joke as in "I'm sure you've heard this one before because I sure have!" I don't know but as they say in Texas, that story just doesn't sit right."
Darwin Again-"I'd like to know the sourcing on these "quotes." Who told them to whom, when, where, and how. Looks like a bad case of gossipy hearsay. At first blush, they seem over the top, but when you imagine MS saying them, they just seem, well, unremarkable."
mweinstone-"the old fart your a lier."
It seems MinnesotaSmith does actually insult everyone he meets. Here is what some visiting Australians report firsthand. Check here. (http://eggswithlegs.blogspot.com/2006/06/pearisburg.html)

Just as we were putting our clothes in the dryer, another hiker entered. He could best be described as looking like a cross between Louie the Fly and Franklin the Turtle. He was a large man who wore thick glasses and walked with a hunched back. He introduced himself as Minnesota Smith. For the first 20 mins of conversation he had us in stitches as he related his trail journey so far. Then halfway through our drying cycle, he asked us the loaded question, "What do you guys do?" We explained that we'd finished university and were avoiding getting a real job. Then he focused on Zan, "So what are you planning to do with your degree? Become a housewife?" Thinking he was joking, we both laughed as Zan replied, "Maybe a school teacher." Then he launched into his well rehearsed monologue, "The only true profession that a woman needs to fulfill is to have babies. The Muslims are outbreeding us and the only way to keep this country pure is to have more babies than them." We prayed that our washing would dry quickly as he kept speaking, "Married women should not get the vote because they are going to vote for whoever their husband tells them to anyway. I'm not saying that women can't have a career. Once they're done having babies... Say when they're 40 or so, their husband can support them if they choose to go to college or do something else." We took our still damp clothes, said our goodbyes and were glad that he wasn't going back for trail days."
Still think he's just joking?:D

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 21:36

It seems MinnesotaSmith does actually insult everyone he meets. Here is what some visiting Australians report firsthand. Check here. (http://eggswithlegs.blogspot.com/2006/06/pearisburg.html)

Still think he's just joking?:D

He insulted me before he was in my car for ten minutes when he asked if I had any friends or relatives of a certain ethnicity. He was prepping to tell a joke. When I replied in the affirmative, he wisely demurred. He was also expressing his concerns that non-white skinned folks were going to come and take all of us white-skinned folks' houses and women and stuff. I told him to look around my neighborhood for a minute and notice the distinctive lack of non-white marauders. Then he said colleges shouldn't teach liberal arts subjects, just hard subjects. I told him I had a drgree in englich and asked him who would enforce this educational policy? The government?
and that was just the tip of the iceberg, so don't tell me about MS's rhetorical proclivities.

The boy just can't help himself!
So get over it. KWIT CHER WHININ ALREADY!
So much indignation coming from a TRAIL GOSSIP.
Sheesh.

The thread just made it to Gorham.:D

max patch

09-13-2006, 21:43

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 21:56

Darwin again-"The boy just can't help himself!"The only sane thing you've ever posted!:D

If you still think he is just joking and doesn't need some serious help, you have as big a problem as he does.

Oh, and have someone show you how to Google "masogonistic", it is a perfectly good word.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 21:59

Lets not forget the post where he (reportedly) took a whiz in front of the shelter and farted in the face of a shelter occupant in the process.

This guy is a frickin a-hole who does not warrant the attention he is getting from this site. As a matter of fact, if this thread is the 'most popular" WB thread -- well, then that says volumes about WB.

Old Fhart, thanks for posting the blog entry. America must sound like a great place (he says scarcastically) to our friends from the south.

So that's it?
You're either with The Thread or you're with the Austrailians? ;)

Maybe it's because he is who he is that MS's getting all this attention?
He's brazen, he's crass, he's arrogant, he's a cultural and racial eugenecist, he's obnoxious, he speaks his mind. In short, he's the embodiment of many stereotypical middle-American values.

He's just energizing his base. It's an election year, you know.:D

Dances with Mice

09-13-2006, 22:00

It seems MinnesotaSmith does actually insult everyone he meets. Here is what some visiting Australians report firsthand. Check here. (http://eggswithlegs.blogspot.com/2006/06/pearisburg.html)

Still think he's just joking?:DYeah! That's him EXACTLY! I've heard exactly the same spiel, probably word-for-word.

But he doesn't make comments about other's weight. That's kinda rude. He's usually a rather polite nutcase.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 22:03

Oh, and have someone show you how to Google "masogonistic", it is a perfectly good word.

Dude, Google ISN'T a spell check device.
It only reinforces your ignorance by finding other instances of the same mistake used in sentences, thereby making you think you're not mistaken.:banana:banana:banana:banana

sigh...so much content, so few editors....

Skidsteer

09-13-2006, 22:10

How big are these Aussies anyway?

He was a large man who wore thick glasses and walked with a hunched back

MS looks to be of pretty average stature in this photo. Jack is by no means short, but he's not dunk-a-basketball tall either.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h299/raystern/Minnesota%20Smith%20Photos/MSB1.jpg

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 22:18

Darwin Again-"He's brazen, he's crass, he's arrogant, he's a cultural and racial eugenecist, he's obnoxious, he speaks his mind." You got 5 out of 6 right. To speak his mind he'd have to have one. And please tell us, in what alternate universe do you live, where these are considered virtues and not character flaws or diseases?

If he is truly "a cultural and racial eugenecist" as you say, he wouldn't still be here!;)
Darwin Again-"In short, he's the embodiment of many stereotypical middle-American values."Hardly! :D

Alligator

09-13-2006, 22:35

Gentlemen, a ruling was requested from the floor

...
As to the 3 posted comments I heard directly from the female hikers MS said them to, he is masogonistically (Alligator- does that word qualify for points?:p) enhanced and anyone here has seen him post similar statements time after time . Didn't someone a few pages back state that his views on women were more extreme than the Taliban's?:eek:

Recalling the Chair's guidelines, (and in his absence)
...
On-topic personal attacks are acceptable on The Thread only if they display originality. Insults based on religious beliefs, gender or implications about sexual orientation, bodily functions, perceived degree of intelligence, life experiences, trail name, and educational or professional attainments are guaranteed low marks from our panel of experts.

Always Remember: This is The Thread and we have standards.
I found that masogonistically was a quite original combination of masochistic and antagonistic, whether intended or not, with suitable application to MS. The 9.0 stands, any appeals must be in triplicate and forwarded by snail mail to the Chair.

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 22:38

You got 5 out of 6 right. To speak his mind he'd have to have one. And please tell us, in what alternate universe do you live, where these are considered virtues and not character flaws or diseases?

If he is truly "a cultural and racial eugenecist" as you say, he wouldn't still be here!;) Hardly! :D

I won't engage you because you're unarmed, Oh Flatus.
(It's like using kung fu on an old mattress.)

No judgement made, just "values" observed and noted. I never used the word, "virtues." You did.
Look up "eugenicist." No, wait. I'll do it for you, since you'll probably try to find it in your companion to Wagner's operas. Like most eliminationist ideologues, MS doesn't think to include himself in the extirpation or selective breeding program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLqCnZAurZo).

eugenics |yoōˈjeniks| plural noun [treated as sing. ] the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.

Please stop poking at me, Oh Flatus. You are the wind...

ed bell

09-13-2006, 22:39

First: Y2K
Second: Peak Oil
Third: The Death of the West
I know some fellas like this. The sky is always falling. I heard enough from one fella about Y2K for so long that I made a deal with him. If nothing happened, he would never spout his doomsday prophecies to me ever again. We have gotten along ever since, but he still believes we never set foot on the moon.:rolleyes:

The Old Fhart

09-13-2006, 23:01

Skidster-'How big are these Aussies anyway?

He was a large man who wore thick glasses and walked with a hunched backI don't think they meant "tall" but large as in girth. I recall reading that MS has lost a lot of weight, so that makes sense that they considered him "large" back then, especially for a hiker.

Darwin Again-"Look up "eugenicist........................."Ah, Darwin, I was wondering how long it would take you to stoop low enough to invoke Godwin's Law(I Prefer Nietzsche's philosophy myself). I'm not surprised you misunderstooded my eugenics reference, I guess there's one in every crowd. Perhaps it's best you have your head planted in the dictionary rather than its usual place.;)

Darwin again

09-13-2006, 23:17

I don't think they meant "tall" but large as in girth. I recall reading that MS has lost a lot of weight, so that makes sense that they considered him "large" back then, especially for a hiker.

Ah, Darwin, I was wondering how long it would take you to stoop low enough to invoke Godwin's Law(I Prefer Nietzsche's philosophy myself). I'm not surprised you misunderstooded my eugenics reference, I guess there's one in every crowd. Perhaps it's best you have your head planted in the dictionary rather than its usual place.;)

Note that I didn't Mention nazis, they merely ocurred in the definition.
I linked to Kubrick, though, :rolleyes: so I win.

I understood your reference. It was so strained that I chose to save your face for you and move beyond it.

You always have struck me as a Wagnerian Ubermensch, so your proclivity to dead German philosophers isn't surprising. Perhaps you have more in common with our "Mister Smith" than you realize.:-?

Peace!

Biloxi

09-13-2006, 23:53

[quote=max patch]Lets not forget the post where he (reportedly) took a whiz in front of the shelter and farted in the face of a shelter occupant in the process.

This guy is a frickin a-hole who does not warrant the attention he is getting.. he would have limped away from that shelter with a well wipped ass had that been me..woulda been end of his misery right then and there:mad: no hope of makeing another mile..sep by medivac

saimyoji

09-13-2006, 23:55

Gentlemen...please refer to this thread:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17362

and if you still insist on childish bickering, why not do it via PMs. You're just embarassing yourselves. I know from experience. :D

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:02

LOL... that wouldn't be the "rancor" thread would it?

Heater

09-14-2006, 00:05

I won't engage you because you're unarmed, Oh Flatus.
(It's like using kung fu on an old mattress.)

No judgement made, just "values" observed and noted. I never used the word, "virtues." You did.
Look up "eugenicist." No, wait. I'll do it for you, since you'll probably try to find it in your companion to Wagner's operas. Like most eliminationist ideologues, MS doesn't think to include himself in the extirpation or selective breeding program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLqCnZAurZo).

eugenics |yoōˈjeniks| plural noun [treated as sing. ] the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.

Please stop poking at me, Oh Flatus. You are the wind...

You know, your use of these "big and bad" :bse words does not impress impress the flatulent one or anyone else on this site. You are just comiing off as a pompous fool... fool!

I just thought I'd clue you in on that little nugget of a fact.

Carry on...

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:08

Lets not forget the post where he (reportedly) took a whiz in front of the shelter and farted in the face of a shelter occupant in the process.

This guy is a frickin a-hole who does not warrant the attention he is getting.. he would have limped away from that shelter with a well wipped ass had that been me..woulda been end of his misery right then and there:mad: no hope of makeing another mile..sep by medivac

If it actually happened, I'd have to agree, but I'm more likely to believe max patch is blowing smoke.

Verified reports?

the goat

09-14-2006, 00:14

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:17

i, for one, am indeed unimpressed.

ditto, verbal master debating is icky! :p

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 00:18

If it actually happened, I'd have to agree, but I'm more likely to believe max patch is blowing smoke. No, Mr. Patch has it right.

I'm not sure what all the bitchin's been about but everyone is missing the point tonight.

Heater

09-14-2006, 00:24

ditto, verbal master debating is icky! :p

Uhmmm... I think you mean't Ickey...

-10 points! :rolleyes:

No gold star for you, bucky... (buckey?) :-? :confused:

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:27

No, Mr. Patch has it right.

Mr Patch is right? And MS still has fans here? Great!

I'm not sure what all the bitchin's been about but everyone is missing the point tonight.

The point? What is the point?

ed bell

09-14-2006, 00:27

If it actually happened, I'd have to agree, but I'm more likely to believe max patch is blowing smoke.

Verified reports?Max is probably refering to my posting of this link:http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=233866&postcount=56
Context is that MS suggested that dogs exhibiting inappropriate behavior need to be slapped around. This is one of the responses to his post. My original post suggested taking it with a grain of salt, since it is secondhand.http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=242570&postcount=1796

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:28

Oh, apoligies to max patch.....

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 00:35

It seems MinnesotaSmith does actually insult everyone he meets. MS didn't insult the Aussies. I mean, besides insulting their intelligence... They considered his opinions insulting, few people wouldn't. But telling someone they're too fat to hike the AT is personally insulting. It's also not his style, he's not that direct.

And it's way too PKB to be believable.

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 00:37

The point? What is the point?I didn't think anyone would ever ask.

But it's late. Let's talk about it tomorrow.

Heater

09-14-2006, 00:42

I didn't think anyone would ever ask.

But it's late. Let's talk about it tomorrow.

Ahhhh... I get it, Procrastination is the point. I think? I'll let you know.:confused:

mdionne

09-14-2006, 00:44

I told him I had a drgree in englich and asked him who would enforce this educational policy? The government?

Man, they're giving degrees out like candy these days

Anyone know who holds the record for the slowest "thru hike" in a calendar year???

the goat

09-14-2006, 00:47

ditto, verbal master debating is icky! :p

not only that, but it'll make you go blind!:D

the goat

09-14-2006, 00:51

Anyone know who holds the record for the slowest "thru hike" in a calendar year???

there was a cuban dude (i think?) who took the entire year to thru, i can't remember whether it was 01, 02, or 03. but he took a long-ass time.....mostly due to zeros though, not slow hiking.

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 00:52

You know, your use of these "big and bad" :bse words does not impress impress the flatulent one or anyone else on this site. You are just comiing off as a pompous fool... fool!

I just thought I'd clue you in on that little nugget of a fact.

Carry on...

I'm just being who I am. Sorry to drive you to the point of comment. Didn't mean to use "big" words and hurt your mind and stuff. I'm nothing special, despite your singling me out as somehow otherwise special.

For me, this is entertainment. You're a cartoon character that interacts. :dance
Ooga booga, he called me "fool!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

Sly

09-14-2006, 00:56

Baevis, and his hiking companion Kathy Ireland, both southbounded in 96/97 and took 365 days to finish without taking a considerable time off as I remember.

Nean

09-14-2006, 01:00

Baevis, and his hiking companion Kathy Ireland, both southbounded in 96/97 and took 365 days to finish without taking a considerable time off as I remember.

That's my best guess Sly. I meet him in Maine in 96 and again in Va. in 97. Great guy too. I wonder if he still works for the Long Trail?

the goat

09-14-2006, 01:01

Baevis, and his hiking companion Kathy Ireland, both southbounded in 96/97 and took 365 days to finish without taking a considerable time off as I remember.

i wish kathy ireland had been my sobo companion!

Sly

09-14-2006, 01:12

i wish kathy ireland had been my sobo companion!
Yeah, I was a little more than jealous when he turned around showed me strapped to his pack. She looked great!

Sly

09-14-2006, 01:18

That's my best guess Sly. I meet him in Maine in 96 and again in Va. in 97. Great guy too. I wonder if he still works for the Long Trail?

I don't know Nean. I saw him at one of the Gatherings in Hanover a few years later and he was doing trail volunteer work up north.

He certainly appeared to be enjoying his hike and giving something back after.

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 01:19

I was just posting here when Oh Flatus went all tourettes because I won't hate Minnesota Smith along with him and the apes in the peanut gallery. Didn't know being articulate was a crime.

Seems some of us need a reminder:
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Trillium

09-14-2006, 01:36

Are you assigned to the MS boiled liver and onions spot? If so, My condolences!

Yeeechhhh! :eek:it probably wouldn't be too yeeechhhky if you had it with a fine chianti ;)

Heater

09-14-2006, 07:25

it probably wouldn't be too yeeechhhky if you had it with a fine chianti ;)

Maybe some fava beans. ftlphtlpftlpftlp.... :bse

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 07:56

True that MS's views or statements about women are unconventional. He expresses himself openly and honestly.

He should not be judged for this.

If most of us did just that, we would each have our own threads here.....myself included.

One must have an understanding and acceptance of all living things before you can be at peace with it all.

If you can't do that, then get off this rock.

totally Boagus

09-14-2006, 08:24

Sly

09-14-2006, 08:33

Not sure I follow you Marsha. Let me have my morning coffee and I'll try again.

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 08:53

but everyone here seems to be talking about a guy who does not appear to have much "understanding and acceptance of all living things" and for his public statements he has been judged. Mr. Boagus gets it. We've been discussing the progress of a hiker.

But not just any hiker. We're talking about one who
- started in poor physical shape for long distance hiking,
- asked for and received much advice about gear then ignored most of it.
(Sure, he's got lightweight camping equipment: A ton of it!)
- started at the worst possible time of year,
- has chosen to alienate himself from many other hikers.

Yet despite what many knowledgeable and experienced hikers would consider poor conditioning, preparation for, and even execution of his hike he's stayed on the Trail longer than any other hiker this year and he still has a good chance to finish a thru-hike while most others have already dropped out.

The point everyone is missing is how someone with all these self-imposed handicaps nearly completed a thru-hike while so many seemingly better prepared hikers haven't?

Sly

09-14-2006, 09:03

The point everyone is missing is how someone with all these self-imposed handicaps nearly completed a thru-hike while so many seemingly better prepared hikers haven't?

A sober Bjorn?

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 09:08

i walked with minnisota smith for hundreds of miles and spent more time with him than fartface. hes being funny and also dosnt belive in insulting people. his sence of humer is a little weird but he means no harm. fartster is an angry old coot who needs to fight to keep blood flowing thru his dry unloved body. i belive jesus is comming and going to kill all bad folks in a blood bath. why arent i weird.?

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 09:12

please stop. your boring. love matthewski.

Skidsteer

09-14-2006, 09:13

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 09:14

dont open the 100th page till i get home or ill be really mad.i wanna slice of that glory.

Sly

09-14-2006, 09:19

You're weird, Mweinstone. :)

Yeah think? ;)

Let's go past 2175 while mattooski is working and wrap up this hike!

The Old Fhart

09-14-2006, 11:20

Darwin Again-“Seems some of us need a reminder:
General Rules
................You will at all times respect and refrain from harassing and/or personally attacking other users..............”

Darwin Again-
“Lighten up dorkus.
As incoherant as usual, Ole Flatus.
he needs to stop being a dickhead
It only reinforces your ignorance
the apes in the peanut gallery”
Consider yourself reminded.:D :D

me-"Ah, Darwin, I was wondering how long it would take you to stoop low enough to invoke Godwin's Law"

Darwin Again-"Note that I didn't Mention n***s, they merely ocurred in the definition.
WOW! Who can argue with illogic like that!

"There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the N***s has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's Law."

Please note that using your "logic", they called you a loser, I didn't.

DarwinAgain-"You always have struck me as a Wagnerian Ubermensch..."
And you always have struck me as a UberScheißenKopf!;)

Darwin Again's favorite word-"...Tourettes..." Perhaps you should google that as well. Tourettes could manifest itself by uncontrollable outbursts like the following:

Darwin Again-"Bawk! Bawk!"

Darwin Again-"You are the wind..." and you are the whirligig!:D

Sly

09-14-2006, 11:36

If this thread were hiking it'd be past Andover, ME while MS is probably stuck in Mahoosuc Notch or trudging up the Arm!

The Old Fhart

09-14-2006, 11:38

DWM- MS didn't insult the Aussies. I mean, besides insulting their intelligence....

Then he focused on Zan, "So what are you planning to do with your degree? Become a housewife?" Thinking he was joking, we both laughed as Zan replied, "Maybe a school teacher." Then he launched into his well rehearsed monologue, "The only true profession that a woman needs to fulfill is to have babies. The Muslims are outbreeding us and the only way to keep this country pure is to have more babies than them........."

Seeing that he directly questioned Zan and his reply was directed to Zan, the only conclusion is that it was a direct insult.

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 11:54

Seeing that he directly questioned Zan and his reply was directed to Zan, the only conclusion is that it was a direct insult.I accept that that is your only conclusion.

The Old Fhart

09-14-2006, 12:02

DWM-"I accept that that is your only conclusion."Agreed. But this isn't a "what-if" situation, this didn't happen in a vacuum. Plus it appears to be the Aussies' conclusion as well.

DawnTreader

09-14-2006, 12:08

I've been silent long enough..
This thread sucks

Lone Wolf

09-14-2006, 12:08

He's at Woody Gap today. Said he got a touch dehydrated one day and took a zero at Gooch Mtn. shelter. Sounded in good spirits. He's hoping to connect with the Hiker Hostel for tonight.
7 months on the trail now and still over 500 miles to go. Hmmm. I'm betting he flips up to Katahdin then heads south.

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 12:29

Not sure I follow you Marsha. Let me have my morning coffee and I'll try again.

Yeah well I think it's the coffee that did it so don't drink it. Especially Starbucks. I'm changing my choice of beverage for the mornings.

Maybe I'll make my own teabags out of some great herbs from my back yard.

I'll save some for MS.

It will go good with Little Debbies ;)
....that one's for you BJ.

And it's not what you some of you are thinking either.

Gray Blazer

09-14-2006, 12:33

Yeah well I think it's the coffee that did it so don't drink it. Especially Starbucks. I'm changing my choice of beverage for the mornings.

Maybe I'll make my own teabags out of some great herbs from my back yard.

I'll save some for MS.

It will go good with Little Debbies ;)
....that one's for you BJ.

And it's not what you some of you are thinking either.

How did you know?!?

the goat

09-14-2006, 12:47

Maybe I'll make my own teabags out of some great herbs from my back yard.

And it's not what you some of you are thinking either.

StarLyte-

what did you think some of us were thinking?

would that be what the english refer to as "high tea"?:D

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 12:57

I've been silent long enough..
This thread sucksThis thread? This thread?! Whatever are you talking about?

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 13:55

This thread? This thread?! Whatever are you talking about?

Hate the thread but love the threaders.
Absolutely stunning powers of ratiocination are on display here.

I didn't start the fire, Oh Flatus.
Get a life and stop harrassing me.

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 14:05

And you always have struck me as a UberScheißenKopf!;)
Perhaps you should google that as well. Tourettes could manifest itself by uncontrollable outbursts like the following:and you are the whirligig!:D

"UberScheißenKopf" Clever. Posts are to be made in english, so there you go breaking another rule. Unfortunately, I speak German, arschloch.

So I guess you're too big a chicken-**** tough-guy keyboard-hero to say it in English, ****head? Consider yourself warned, dumbass.

You're a stand-up guy, all right. When you're not bent over taking your own head up your ass, oh controller of everyone's ideas and thoughts.
**** you, you simplistic moron.

Just remember, Google is your window on the world, you shut-in.:banana

Lugnut

09-14-2006, 14:10

Bulletin! Bulletin! MS has been vindicated!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770

Dances with Mice

09-14-2006, 14:15

Bulletin! Bulletin! MS has been vindicated!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770 The study is the product of a soft science professor. As such, it is not recognized in MS-world.

bfitz

09-14-2006, 14:24

Bulletin! Bulletin! MS has been vindicated!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770
What, you guys didn't know that?

bfitz

09-14-2006, 14:25

Men are taller than women also.....

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 14:28

Yep. It's soft science and as such is not valid in Minnesota's world.

(Just for everyone's info., I put Oh Flatus on my ignore list, so it's all good now.)

Heater

09-14-2006, 14:42

Men are taller than women also.....

And we can pee standing up! :sun

Heater

09-14-2006, 14:45

Yep. It's soft science and as such is not valid in Minnesota's world.

(Just for everyone's info., I put Oh Flatus on my ignore list, so it's all good now.)

I wonder what would happen if you put yourself on your own ignore list? Would you go into a coma? :-?

STEVEM

09-14-2006, 14:49

Bulletin! Bulletin! MS has been vindicated!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770

The fur is gonna fly now. My wife is about to be set straight after all these years. I may be hiking very soon.

Heater

09-14-2006, 15:09

You know, I've peed on and directly in front of shelters before. What's the big deal?

Have you wrtten your name in the snow? :D

The Old Fhart

09-14-2006, 15:13

Joke #1
Darwin Again-"I didn't start the fire, Oh Flatus.
Get a life and stop harrassing me."Ah, so you forgot that your first posts to me in this thread started out about the mid 1300s(that's post numbers, not the year) and it was you that tried to harrass me for presenting facts about the AMC and the Whites. Your posts to me have continued to go downhill as you failed to make points on the intellectial level and the following shows your keen debating style:

Darwin Again-"Always a pleasure to hear your positive, upbeat comments, fart sack!
Perhaps you should try this. (Be sure and apply directly to your forehead.)

In anticipation of your incoherant, negative, rotten-spirited, bitter, arrogant reply, don't even bother. Remember, you are the wind...."
Joke #2
Darwin Again-""UberScheißenKopf" Clever. Posts are to be made in english, so there you go breaking another rule. Unfortunately, I speak German, arschloch."And the first german on this thread was(drum roll please):

Darwin Again-"You always have struck me as a Wagnerian Ubermensch..."I assume when you said:"Unfortunately, I speak German", you meant unfortunate for the Germans!:D

Joke #3
Darwin breaking rules again-"So I guess you're too big a chicken-**** tough-guy keyboard-hero to say it in English, ****head? Consider yourself warned, dumbass.

You're a stand-up guy, all right. When you're not bent over taking your own head up your ass, oh controller of everyone's ideas and thoughts.
**** you, you simplistic moron."I just love it when you get apoplectic. Truely classy.

You are about ready for another time out. Perhaps you ought to put some of your misplaced rage into firing up MinnesotaSmith to get him moving up the trail. If you'd stop trying to harrassing me and the other posters here, the thread could get back on track.

weary

09-14-2006, 15:25

Joke #1Ah, so you forgot that your first posts to me in this thread started out about the mid 1300s(that's post numbers, not the year) and it was you that tried to harrass me for presenting facts about the AMC and the Whites. Your posts to me have continued to go downhill as you failed to make points on the intellectial level and the following shows your keen debating style:

Joke #2And the first german on this thread was(drum roll please):
I assume when you said:"Unfortunately, I speak German", you meant unfortunate for the Germans!:D

Joke #3I just love it when you get apoplectic. Truely classy.

You are about ready for another time out. Perhaps you ought to put some of your misplaced rage into firing up MinnesotaSmith to get him moving up the trail. If you'd stop trying to harrassing me and the other posters here, the thread could get back on track.
As Darwin Again is learning, Old Fhart is a ferocious debater, one who never gives up. I stopped debating him months ago, besides I gained considerable respect for him after I saw his slides taken on the summit of Mount Washington during week and two week winter stays in the worse weather in the East.

Weary

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 16:02

As Darwin Again is learning, Old Fhart is a ferocious debater, one who never gives up. I stopped debating him months ago, besides I gained considerable respect for him after I saw his slides taken on the summit of Mount Washington during week and two week winter stays in the worse weather in the East.

Weary

Yeah, he's ferocious all right. :D

I saw OF's pics. I've done winter excursions and I'm not impressed: he stayed in a motel on top of the mountain. Regardless, he obviously impresses himself. And that's ok. He's ignored.
A bit of winter hiking obviously hasn't improved his social skills, which is something he unwittingly shares with Minnesota Smith.

Alas, I fear our intrepid MS isn't going to finish his hike.
Tempus fugit...

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 16:05

I wonder what would happen if you put yourself on your own ignore list? Would you go into a coma? :-?

Gee, it's another cute little one...come over here, squatter within the Dismalest State in the Union.

Let me sit on your head.:-?

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 16:27

my son has been xxxxxxxxxxx to remove old farts internet connection. it would be easy for him to block his wb access but im not allowing him to . he will however xxxx old farts provider and xxxx there connection to his computer. as of 1201 am friday we should be freash as a daisy. and old fart, you have only hours to rant. make it good. cause after your out, your done.and if you want to be rexxxxxxxx my son askes for a public apology to the members of this site. im sorry but shuting you up is just too much fun to pass up on. i will undo yo after your good and mad. and dont underestimate the computer skills of max. he is after all zachary maximilion ( gods greatest gift of exsellence)good luck and good ridence.

Heater

09-14-2006, 16:30

Gee, it's another cute little one...come over here, squatter within the Dismalest State in the Union.

Let me sit on your head.:-?

:eek: From the tone of your posts it is obvious that you are in serious need of a little bit of action but you will have to look elsewhere for a willing participant of your perversions.

Sly

09-14-2006, 16:34

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 16:44

:eek: From the tone of your posts it is obvious that you are in serious need of a little bit of action but you will have to look elsewhere for a willing participant of your perversions.

Yeah. I've used up my supply. You're just a target of opportunity.
But seriously, I don't relentlessly attack people who disagree with me, do I?

I mean, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER stopping? That's fripping whacked. It's serious "Get-a-lifer" stuff...

Who Dares Wins, girls.

Peace.
~~Darwin

Heater

09-14-2006, 16:51

Yeah. I've used up my supply. You're just a target of opportunity.

You need a much easier target. You're a lousy shot. ;)

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 16:51

So your son is going to hack Whiteblaze.net?

no. and fart listen up,.. when the white van comes, go quietly . they really do help folks. just let them.

and darwin stop playing with your prey. its not humane. your like a cat with an injured mouse.

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 16:57

and i will eat you . then i will digest you, then i will poop you out. then i will flush you. then i will say a little prayer for you. then i will laugh at you through the clear floor in heaven that is made to look thru. now, back to a big fat guy we know and love. whos up for a minnisota smith drive by? im suggesting someone sit at a roadhead and intercept him with no trail majic just info. get his pic and give him computer access and just help keep him in touch as the trail is empty and lonely where hes goin. any takers? ill buy gas and tolls and carfood. up to a dollar.

sherrill

09-14-2006, 17:09

Shouldn't this thread be moved to the Hiker Humor forum?:rolleyes:

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 17:14

You need a much easier target. You're a lousy shot. ;)

Ha! That's just what the Mexicans told the dudes at the Alamo.:rolleyes:

Heater

09-14-2006, 17:19

Ha! That's just what the Mexicans told the dudes at the Alamo.:rolleyes:

Remember San Jacinto? ;) :D

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 17:26

everyone start calling the old fart" wench". till hes annoyed.

The Old Fhart

09-14-2006, 17:35

mweinstone-"my son has been xxxxxxxxxxx to remove old farts internet connection. it would be easy for him to block his wb access but im not allowing him to . he will however xxxx old farts provider and xxxx there connection to his computer. as of 1201 am friday we should be freash as a daisy. and old fart, you have only hours to rant. make it good. cause after your out, your done.and if you want to be rexxxxxxxx my son askes for a public apology to the members of this site. im sorry but shuting you up is just too much fun to pass up on. i will undo yo after your good and mad. and dont underestimate the computer skills of max. he is after all zachary maximilion ( gods greatest gift of exsellence)good luck and good ridence."Whatever(yawn)

mweinstone-"everyone start calling the old fart" wench". till hes annoyed."You and Disturbed Again will have to duke it out as to whether it is "dickhead" or "wench":sun

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 17:37

minnisota smith is a government plant! hes testing the populi to see there reactions to life values were all going to be living as soon as the american way of life ends.

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 17:38

now thats a good post save for the lack of minnisota smith worship.disturbed again is good. keep working though.

Heater

09-14-2006, 17:39

and darwin stop playing with your prey. its not humane. your like a cat with an injured mouse.

I think darwin has found a willing participant! :rolleyes:

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 17:48

this is a post for newcomers as there are alot these days .we here at THE THREAD recognize the hiker known only as minnisota smith as being a hike your own hike cult member. he is so in his own world and likes to talk so you get alot of crits about him. imagine for a moment if you will if all your belifs were open for debate. we have this in minnisota smith. obviously his veiws are worthy of debate as our thread members cant get enough. there like crack heads . so addicted to the thread they'll talk about absolutly nothing , for hours and hours. as a small demonstration of the nature and scope of this thread, i will now instigate a cat and dog knock down drag out fight betwween two distinguished members who never fight. watch......

starlite said the only reason lone wolf even gets searved at dots is cause he cleans the bathroom . and lone wolf says starlite owns every tape of the tom jones show and cant sleep without "whats new pussycat" playing.

max patch

09-14-2006, 17:55

Shouldn't this thread be moved to the Hiker Humor forum?:rolleyes:

is there a who gives a ***** forum?

this thread is an embarrassment to the site.

Sly

09-14-2006, 18:05

is there a who gives a ***** forum?

this thread is an embarrassment to the site.

LOL... I find it kind of grows on you.

Minnismith should be close to Andover by now. Wonder if he'll check in and update?

Ender

09-14-2006, 18:21

LOL... I find it kind of grows on you.

Like herpes, maybe.

But, like any car crash, I find I can't look away.

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 18:24

Our man Smith (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=12619&catid=530).
The legend, the icon, the lightning rod.

Sly

09-14-2006, 18:28

Is that before he picked up his cold weather gear? LOL....

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 18:36

heres a typical minnisota smith post showing how he strings thaughts. just read.

Anyone that can succeed in chasing down wild squirrels with a sword...
Needs to talk to the next U.S. Olympic track team. Decent-sized dogs are generally faster than virtually all people, and it's rare that they can catch up to squirrels.

Anyone that voluntarily takes on a loose healthy adult bear with a sword instead of a high-powered firearm needs psychiatric attention.
__
do ya see? see how his fact filled shy and socialy young hear work? this is a kind good person. and i do know. not cause i met him,.. cause i can dicern folks. hes mild. were harsh. hes smart, were being funny. hes not a city slicker. we all are acting like we are. he dosnt insult. at the least, our insulting is rubbing off on him only cause coppying is the highest form of flattery. know what i mean fart? flattery?

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 18:37

is there a who gives a ***** forum?

this thread is an embarrassment to the site.

you know what Max? I got one thing to say.....

"what's new pussycat....."

and I'd clean the toidees at Dots ANY DAY.....just as long as Walkin'Home makes me one of dem lobster samiches.

ed bell

09-14-2006, 18:42

Our man Smith (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=12619&catid=530).
The legend, the icon, the lightning rod.Legend? Too early to say. Icon? To mweinstone, no doubt. Lightning rod? Save the drama for your mama.;) The picture? How totally awesome is that? Somebody has got to make a poster. Go MS, go!:sun

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 18:47

my mom was 3 to 4 hundred lbs all my life. i studyed the fat problems and positives all my life. as a used to be fatty, the new minnisota smith has all the good parts left in him about having been fat. hes got a really high pain threashold. cause carrying weight is pain. and hes less timmid around people of all sizes. see fat people are the last to be size predijuce. i understood at a young age walking down the hall of school with my mom that i was learning how to accept people . kids never saw a mom like mine. and i loved her in front of them. her fat searved me wll luke.as shall yours have.your willpower is ten times that of a non fatster. fat people have enormous powers of will. enableing that power is there only weekness. my point is we enabled our favorite hikers super strong inner willpower by our talk.we have increased his ability to not want to quit and have allowed him to summon his unearthly willpowers to complete.

Mother's Finest

09-14-2006, 19:21

matthewski speaks the truth......as a former 250+ guy (5' 10") i can attest to that.

I have tremendous powers of will, the will that allowed me to lose over 70 lbs......and change my lifestyle to stay that way. I also have a high pain threshhold that allowed me to carry around half of an extra person for 15 years.

many time, I read mathewski's posts and am confused. there is a great deal of clarity in post #1972.....

and to all those that liked this thread, just wait till next year when Matty is on the trail again......who knows what is in store for spring of 07

peace
mf

Heater

09-14-2006, 19:28

and to all those that liked this thread, just wait till next year when Matty is on the trail again......who knows what is in store for spring of 07

20:1

:D :D :D

:datz

ed bell

09-14-2006, 19:29

many time, I read mathewski's posts and am confused. there is a great deal of clarity in post #1972.....

peace
mfMatt is diving into "old neo" territory real quick. If only he could control himself enough to actually have something to say when he posts. That would give his post #1972 the respect it deserves. I liked it.

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 20:55

mad looks at minnisota smith ,.. and the norm.

normal pick up line:well,...thanks for the advise miss. by the way,.. you wouldnt want to give me your phone number would you?

ms: thank you miss for the helpfull advice . im saying miss hopefully wondering to myself whether you might be of some biological use to me.(pause) as im single................(stunned look from miss)...im jokeing of course...... minnisota smith at your service. please exscuse my blather... ive been hiking seven months on a trail that dosnt reflect the natural male female ratio you have here in town.

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 20:58

and thats probubly more like what happened

mweinstone

09-14-2006, 21:05

minnisota smith if your reading this your not hiking.stop reading, post and split.

WalkinHome

09-14-2006, 21:07

Starlyte, I get the feeling you are yogi'ing me for lobster rolls in West Virginia. Naughty, naughty. Will have to try that German Bologna to see if a quid pro quo is warranted LOL. Will also have to check my horoscope to see if it is favorable to go to Lewiston (on the way to the Gathering) where I buy my magic lobstah.

When I'm good, I'm good but when I'm bad, I'm bettah-Mae West

Heater

09-14-2006, 21:16

Starlyte, I get the feeling you are yogi'ing me for lobster rolls in West Virginia. Naughty, naughty. Will have to try that German Bologna

German potato salad... the kind with a vinegary taste with the bacon in there. Some real Saurkraut on the sandwich. Mmmmmm... That's all I have been thinking about eating since she posted about that.

the goat

09-14-2006, 21:23

German potato salad... the kind with a vinegary taste with the bacon in there. Some real Saurkraut on the sandwich. Mmmmmm... That's all I have been thinking about eating since she posted about that.

ahhh, yeah, i love that stuff. my mom used to make it....imo, it's the only way to make potato salad.:clap

the goat

09-14-2006, 21:24

btw, welcome to page 100, everyone.

Heater

09-14-2006, 21:41

btw, welcome to page 100, everyone.

WHOOOOHOOOOOO!!!! 100!

What about the fried bolony and saurkraut sandwich?

...And then Ice Cream.

Yeah!:banana

the goat

09-14-2006, 21:45

What a terrible way to open up teh 100th page.

i knew not of the monumental importance of my post until it was written.

oh, and you've obviously never had homemade german potato salad.:rolleyes: :D

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 21:50

WHOOOOHOOOOOO!!!! 100!

What about the fried bolony and saurkraut sandwich?

...And then Ice Cream.

Yeah!:banana

ha ha ha

friggin bologna n kraut samiches for everyone

Heater

09-14-2006, 21:52

What a terrible way to open up teh 100th page.

Whaddya wan't for nuthin. A liver and onion Sammich? Rubber biscuit?

Bow wow wow uuuuuhm, bada hibby didda humma....

Lone Wolf

09-14-2006, 21:53

ha ha ha

friggin bologna n kraut samiches for everyone
Are you Blackstoning tonite Marsha?:D

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 21:54

German potato salad rocks.:D

And the thread pushes on to the 2000-mile post mark...

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 21:54

Are you Blackstoning tonite Marsha?:D

I wasn't until they came out with the Premium blend......:D

STEVEM

09-14-2006, 22:26

YOUR a recreational hiking trail. the at is a god among trails ,a giant among the other two ideas in matthewskis head, a freakishly excellent way rightious place and where i enjoy such hudge leaps in social advancement such as farting and burping free. walking and talking with freaks and eating such wonderments as,.........crappy trail food!

Above is post #1000. Will #2000 be as inspirational?

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 22:46

Well, I do Germans therefore I do German potato salad.

Sie werden es und Sie werden mögen es essen!!!

Heater

09-14-2006, 22:52

Well, I do Germans therefore I do German potato salad.

Sie werden es und Sie werden mögen es essen!!!

Ooooo, Ooh oh.... Meeee me me! I'm half German! :banana :banana

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 23:07

Ooooo, Ooh oh.... Meeee me me! I'm half German! :banana :banana

HA HA HA this thread is killing me already.....but then....I think I killed myself many times on here already, haven't I? LW?

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 23:21

Willst du hanchen essen oder Minnesota Smith fressen? :eek:

Gustatus similis Pullus.

StarLyte

09-14-2006, 23:38

Willst du hanchen essen oder Minnesota Smith fressen? :eek:

Gustatus similis Pullus.

HA HA you're GOOD (http://ufoinfo.com/news/balthaser0402.shtml) Darwin !

Darwin again

09-14-2006, 23:42

HA HA you're GOOD (http://ufoinfo.com/news/balthaser0402.shtml) Darwin !

You got it, Star. Spot-on. :D:D

And the thread teeters on the precipice of making history....

ed bell

09-14-2006, 23:57

1998 was a good year for me backpacking-wise. I'll honor it with this post.:sun

Skidsteer

09-15-2006, 00:01

1998 was a good year for me backpacking-wise. I'll honor it with this post.:sun

1999 was a good song for the artist formerly known as Prince.

Sorry, Ed. Couldn't resist. :D

Heater

09-15-2006, 00:02

Bingo!.......

Darwin again

09-15-2006, 00:04

Outrageous.

Dances with Mice

09-15-2006, 00:09

Ohthankgawhd.

I thought the website was going to disappear between Posts 1999 and 2000.

Skidsteer

09-15-2006, 00:14

Classic...

ed bell

09-15-2006, 00:20

Ohthankgawhd.

I thought the website was going to disappear between Posts 1999 and 2000.Kinda like a certain Y2K site?:D

Trillium

09-15-2006, 02:00

Our man Smith (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=12619&catid=530).
The legend, the icon, the lightning rod.that guy looks like he is auditioning to be hiking with The Hobbitt.

Nean

09-15-2006, 02:06

2006 has been a good year too!;)

Trillium

09-15-2006, 02:16

thanks to Neo's initial link to Turtle 2's trail journal, I have been reading her journal as she has progressed. about a month ago she skipped ahead and summitted and is now sobo'ing until she gets to where she skipped ahead.

anyway, here is a part of a recent entry in her trail journal:
http://trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=156845

There were over 10 hikers here last night, some tenting nearby including Mr. Blister. One trail celebrity staying here was the one and only Minnesota Smith. MS carries 60 #s and double filters his water and imports some of his food including dried squid. He gave a brief geology talk then discussed thru-hiking with the guests while the rest of the hikers looked on. He did a good job.
The noted encounter took place on Friday, September 1 at Galehead Hut.