There have only been two ways I've found to improve Jim Woods's Supercat stove. One is to add a base, and the other is this: http://www.freewebs.com/jasonklass/supercatwick.htm

There have only been two ways I've found to improve Jim Woods's Supercat stove. One is to add a base, and the other is this: http://www.freewebs.com/jasonklass/supercatwick.htm

Two questions Jason. Have you compared the weight of the kevlar wick v. a small aluminum foil priming pan; and, have you considered that perhaps a small aluminum foil priming pan may act as a heat reflector thereby increasing the overall efficiency of the stove? The wick is a good idea yet is it the only workable alternative hypothesis?:-?
R.

P.S. Yes I checked out your site before I posted this. The 'Heart and Chicken'
stove is inventive.

Two questions Jason. Have you compared the weight of the kevlar wick v. a small aluminum foil priming pan; and, have you considered that perhaps a small aluminum foil priming pan may act as a heat reflector thereby increasing the overall efficiency of the stove? The wick is a good idea yet is it the only workable alternative hypothesis?:-?
R.

P.S. Yes I checked out your site before I posted this. The 'Heart and Chicken'
stove is inventive.

Hey Rifleman-
Thanks for the input! I have used foil priming pans and neither they nor the wick register on my scale so I deem the weight negligable. The foil works but it's one more thing to fuss with. I like the intergrated design of the wick. It's already there, just soak and go. Plus, you can more evenly distribute the alcohol on the wick than you can on the priming pan. This means the flame to prime is more effecient because it heats the stove evenly and therefore less fuel is required.

The :heart and chicken" stove is not my idea. You'll see the author at the top of the article. I haven't built one yet but I want to. It seems like a great copy of the Brasslite. Very clever design.

I have tested woven kevlar(100% virgin) to be used as a wick material. After 4 - 5 complete burns (allowing wick to extinguish itself) the kevlar fibers began to turn to ash and thus ending my hopes of using it as a wick for long term use.

Have you tried multiple 4 - 5 complete burns on your wick material?

I don't think Fire Dancers allow their wads of wick material to completely burn out. I believe they extinguish them long before they are out of fuel. When a wick starts to run out of fuel it starts to burn itself if it can.

Kevlar is burn resistant not burn proof, as I have found out by trial and error.

Let us know your findings.

Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained:D

I have tested woven kevlar(100% virgin) to be used as a wick material. After 4 - 5 complete burns (allowing wick to extinguish itself) the kevlar fibers began to turn to ash and thus ending my hopes of using it as a wick for long term use.True. Kevlar is, chemically, a type of nylon. Juggling torches use strips of kevlar for wicks and I'm always careful (...all things being relative...) to use mine just until the fuel runs low then blow them out rather than let them burn out on their own. Otherwise the wicks will smolder until they are ruined. Fiberglass makes great unburnable wicking material, just be aware that it contains a styrene-based binder ('glue') that will burn away on first use.
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Add V notches to top rim to prevent sticking to underside of pot, see info below

JPW, glad to see you got one working!!!!!! cute little things they are.

The 24 little holes extend the burn time nicely.

Seeker-----awhile back I made a suppercat per instructions, worked exactly like it should, got the 4 min boil no problem. But here's the kicker!!! just as the instructions caution everyone that the stove will stick to the bottom of the pot if the pot is dirty, it sure did stick on my first test run. I did two test burns, stuck two times.

I was watching for it to happen and was prepared by having a commercial oven tray under it to catch it if it fell off. Sure enough, came off with still some fuel left in it and set the tray ablaze. My pot had a thin layer of old soot from previous burns. The alcohol softens the soot and sticks to it. Just like the instructions say also the stove deposits alcohol on the pots bottom so that if the stove does'nt stick you still have to be careful of the burning alcohol on the bottom of your pot.

I opted not to chance using the supercat because of that happening. Someday I'll do more burns with it having a clean bottomed pot. Even with a clean bottom it still may have a tendency to stick to it because of the liquid alcohol forming a seal of a type around the edge of the can. The instructions did say that it will happen if you remove your pot before all the fuel is consumed, it recomended that you slide the pot sideways to eliminate the posibility of sticking.(something on that order)

Best thing to do is let all the fuel burn itself out, then pick up the pot.

I was totaly impressed with it otherwise!!!!!!

I've been using the super cat stove for about a year now and have NEVER had a sticking problem, on clean or dirty pots. Is there possibly too high of a vaccum created by having too small of holes in your current stove? Have you tried enlarging them and seeing if that helps?

I personally always let the stove burn out before I take off the pot if possible. That way i dont have to worry about what to do with extra fuel, and I dont waste any. But, even when the stove is still lit I havent had the sticking problem. But, if your pot does have enough ash on it to cause the melting of it to stick the stove to your pot, have you tried to clean off the bottom of your pot? It seems excessivly dirty. Even after years of heavy use I've never had a pot that dirty. Have you tried slidding your pot sideways before lifting strait up? That could help break any seal you are encontering.

I dont know what else could be causeing your stove to stick, but you shouldn't be having the problem. Good luck with future stove designing :)

Pink

this is the way to optimize:cool: neo


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everything is else is a waste of time:cool: neo


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I've been using the super cat stove for about a year now and have NEVER had a sticking problem, on clean or dirty pots. Is there possibly too high of a vaccum created by having too small of holes in your current stove? Have you tried enlarging them and seeing if that helps?

I personally always let the stove burn out before I take off the pot if possible. That way i dont have to worry about what to do with extra fuel, and I dont waste any. But, even when the stove is still lit I havent had the sticking problem. But, if your pot does have enough ash on it to cause the melting of it to stick the stove to your pot, have you tried to clean off the bottom of your pot? It seems excessivly dirty. Even after years of heavy use I've never had a pot that dirty. Have you tried slidding your pot sideways before lifting strait up? That could help break any seal you are encontering.

I dont know what else could be causeing your stove to stick, but you shouldn't be having the problem. Good luck with future stove designing :)

Pink

dancing in the street:cool: neo


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I've been using the super cat stove for about a year now and have NEVER had a sticking problem, on clean or dirty pots. Is there possibly too high of a vaccum created by having too small of holes in your current stove? Have you tried enlarging them and seeing if that helps?

I personally always let the stove burn out before I take off the pot if possible. That way i dont have to worry about what to do with extra fuel, and I dont waste any. But, even when the stove is still lit I havent had the sticking problem. But, if your pot does have enough ash on it to cause the melting of it to stick the stove to your pot, have you tried to clean off the bottom of your pot? It seems excessivly dirty. Even after years of heavy use I've never had a pot that dirty. Have you tried slidding your pot sideways before lifting strait up? That could help break any seal you are encontering.

I dont know what else could be causeing your stove to stick, but you shouldn't be having the problem. Good luck with future stove designing :)

Pink

this rules:cool: neo

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There have only been two ways I've found to improve Jim Woods's Supercat stove. One is to add a base, and the other is this: http://www.freewebs.com/jasonklass/supercatwick.htm


git-r-done:cool: neo


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I've been using the super cat stove for about a year now and have NEVER had a sticking problem, on clean or dirty pots. Is there possibly too high of a vaccum created by having too small of holes in your current stove? Have you tried enlarging them and seeing if that helps?

I personally always let the stove burn out before I take off the pot if possible. That way i dont have to worry about what to do with extra fuel, and I dont waste any. But, even when the stove is still lit I havent had the sticking problem. But, if your pot does have enough ash on it to cause the melting of it to stick the stove to your pot, have you tried to clean off the bottom of your pot? It seems excessivly dirty. Even after years of heavy use I've never had a pot that dirty. Have you tried slidding your pot sideways before lifting strait up? That could help break any seal you are encontering.

I dont know what else could be causeing your stove to stick, but you shouldn't be having the problem. Good luck with future stove designing :)

Pink

yehaa:cool: neo


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I have tested woven kevlar(100% virgin) to be used as a wick material. After 4 - 5 complete burns (allowing wick to extinguish itself) the kevlar fibers began to turn to ash and thus ending my hopes of using it as a wick for long term use.

Have you tried multiple 4 - 5 complete burns on your wick material?

I don't think Fire Dancers allow their wads of wick material to completely burn out. I believe they extinguish them long before they are out of fuel. When a wick starts to run out of fuel it starts to burn itself if it can.

Kevlar is burn resistant not burn proof, as I have found out by trial and error.

Let us know your findings.

Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained:D


:D neo

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Neo,
I have found some of your postings to be helpful, But this time that is not the case, I am sure that you like the jet boil, my point is that is not the point of this thread. That is why this thread was not called 'jet boil optimized'

I still think the camo tarp over the hammock is a cool picture.

Sandy

Neo, posting the picture of your jet boil once would have been enough. Thanks.

Neo, posting the picture of your jet boil once would have been enough. Thanks.

I totally agree. Once was enough. It gets old hearing it over and over and over, one post after another. I think we got your point after the first post. We can not keep tolerating this type of posting. We are getting well over 400 to 500 post a day on WhiteBlaze and trying to keep up with them is hard enough now. Then to get something like this is really annoying. If this continues then we will be deleting post like this. I am sure the other admins will back me up on this.

this is the way to optimize:cool: neo


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I know a lot of people like to use canister stoves and I really love my Gigapower; however, I really don't like carrying the empty weight of them out. That's why I like alcohol stoves. The weight of the container is negligable when empty and I can carry exactly the amount of fuel I need for any given trip. With canister stoves, you're limited to 1,2,3,etc. canisters. There's no "in between". I consider a canister stove a luxury now but to each their own. :)

I have found that the "Ignore List" in the User CP works very will in filtering out posts. I'm up to about 10 - 15 very irritating people on this site that I never have to hear from again. So the above offender was no problem for me. He's been out of my world for a long time.

The next time someone gets on your nerves, just put them on your "Ignore List", and they will disappear forever. You will find that this site gets better and better as you weed out the dead wood.