View Full Version : new homemade pack - evaluations, please


bugbomb
04-07-2006, 23:45
I posted a few pics in the gallery.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=6255

I'd appreciate any comments. It's fairly similar to the silnylon G6 clone I made a while back, but this one has a more involved compression system and a hipbelt. I also made sleeves inside so you can insert lengths of arrow shaft to serve as a frame. It works very well, better than I expected, actually! I need to find something about the size of an arrow shaft (so I don't have to rethink the sleeves!) that can be shaped - the only downside to the arrow shafts was that since they were straight, the pack didn't hug my back the way I'd like.

A couple of tips for those who want to try this - I triple-stitched everything, and the 1.9 oz uncoated nylon shows no signs of pulling seams, no matter how I stress it. HOWEVER, I would suggest that you single stitch the whole thing until you have your cord loops, straps, velcro, etc attached - it's more of a pain to rip three seams than one! Save the reinforcement stitching for last!

Also - overestimate your seam allowances and your shock cord for any elastic pockets you make. The water bottle pockets on the sides came out just right, but the "kangaroo" pocket is too tight. I can easily fit a poncho-tarp, or jacket, or whatever in there, but I'd prefer it to be looser at the mouth.

A couple of thoughts on straps - I ran webbing all the way down my straps. In the future, I'll limit this to only the places where I think I'll want to attach accessories. The single strip of webbing actually creates a pressure point down the center of the shoulder strap. Next time, I'll just attach some grosgrain to the strap further down, in the places where it would help.

I will also use thicker/stiffer foam for the hipbelt. It begins to collapse around 20 pounds. That's ok, because that's at least a week's worth of gear and food for me, but I'd rather it didn't do it at all. I used some 1/4 inch closed cell from a local auto upholstery shop.

Anyways, fire away - I'd love to hear any tips from people who have been there, done that.

Oh, and the final weight:

10.6 oz without stays, 12.2 oz with.

Seeker
04-08-2006, 00:29
congrats... that's a good looking pack... you've given me an idea to solve a problem i have with my golite gust (no 'wet gear' pocket.) i can just sew small eyelets on the back and weave elastic through it. thank you...

they do still make aluminum arrows, though they are harder to find these days. (everyone likes the polycarbonate ones since they either shatter or stay straight. you don't have to 'fix' them after a bad hit.) they used to sell a tool you could use to straighten aluminum shafts when they got bent. i'm assuming you can use the tool to bend the shafts too... if you can't find a tool, a small hole in a flat piece of steel will do.

peter_pan
04-08-2006, 08:20
Nice job on the pack...check a metal fabricator shop for flat alum bar stock in variety of widths and thicknesses...it is easily shaped.

Pan

jasonklass
04-08-2006, 12:11
Wow. That pack looks great! I wish I could sew like that.

neo
04-08-2006, 19:08
I posted a few pics in the gallery.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=6255

I'd appreciate any comments. It's fairly similar to the silnylon G6 clone I made a while back, but this one has a more involved compression system and a hipbelt. I also made sleeves inside so you can insert lengths of arrow shaft to serve as a frame. It works very well, better than I expected, actually! I need to find something about the size of an arrow shaft (so I don't have to rethink the sleeves!) that can be shaped - the only downside to the arrow shafts was that since they were straight, the pack didn't hug my back the way I'd like.

A couple of tips for those who want to try this - I triple-stitched everything, and the 1.9 oz uncoated nylon shows no signs of pulling seams, no matter how I stress it. HOWEVER, I would suggest that you single stitch the whole thing until you have your cord loops, straps, velcro, etc attached - it's more of a pain to rip three seams than one! Save the reinforcement stitching for last!

Also - overestimate your seam allowances and your shock cord for any elastic pockets you make. The water bottle pockets on the sides came out just right, but the "kangaroo" pocket is too tight. I can easily fit a poncho-tarp, or jacket, or whatever in there, but I'd prefer it to be looser at the mouth.

A couple of thoughts on straps - I ran webbing all the way down my straps. In the future, I'll limit this to only the places where I think I'll want to attach accessories. The single strip of webbing actually creates a pressure point down the center of the shoulder strap. Next time, I'll just attach some grosgrain to the strap further down, in the places where it would help.

I will also use thicker/stiffer foam for the hipbelt. It begins to collapse around 20 pounds. That's ok, because that's at least a week's worth of gear and food for me, but I'd rather it didn't do it at all. I used some 1/4 inch closed cell from a local auto upholstery shop.

Anyways, fire away - I'd love to hear any tips from people who have been there, done that.

Oh, and the final weight:

10.6 oz without stays, 12.2 oz with.

:) thats an excellent looking pack,how much did it cost to make and how much time did it take,did your own pattern,well done,great job:cool: neo

bugbomb
04-09-2006, 09:07
Neo - it cost about $10, give or take. It took a pretty long time - I didn't keep track, but it was spread out over a couple of weeks. Made my own pattern - it wasn't hard, mostly just different sized rectangles sewn together. Thanks!

Ben

Riddick
04-09-2006, 12:25
That's awesome. It looks so good I think I'll have to try my own someday.

Great job!

Tha Wookie
04-09-2006, 19:30
Man that's a great looking pack -very impressive!

Cool color too -it might get you a trail name -hmmmm......:rolleyes:

:D