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frequency
05-28-2006, 17:53
have tried coat hanger pot stand with pepsican stove. did not work very well. about as sturdy as a wet paper bag. Anyone come up with a more reliable ultralight design?

Spock
05-28-2006, 18:25
For 1/2 ounce, you can make a very secure pot stand for the Heineken pot with a strip of expanded aluminum gutter screen about 10" long and as high as you need for your alcohol burner ... usually 1 1/2" will do it. You can fold the cut ends of the gutter screen, poke them through the screen on the other side and bend them flat to hold the screen in a ring. I lighten the ring further by cutting notches at the top and bottom and diamonds out of the center.

Spock
05-28-2006, 18:26
PS: Make the ring just big enough to hold the bottom flange on the can. The aluminum has enough friction to keep the can secure.

rpettit
05-28-2006, 18:58
I use 3 tent stakes stuck in the ground around the stove. Since I use 4 tent stakes to set my tarp and hammock they become a dual use item. Also since their primary function is to set my tarp and hammock the net wieght for pot support = 0 oz. Of course, you can't use them as stakes and pot stands at the same time.

Topcat
05-28-2006, 18:58
I use 3 tent stakes driven into the ground around my stove to set my pot on and it works well.............................. unless there is an earthquake

Skidsteer
05-28-2006, 19:10
have tried coat hanger pot stand with pepsican stove. did not work very well. about as sturdy as a wet paper bag. Anyone come up with a more reliable ultralight design?

I don't know about "ultralight", but this is the homemade stand I've been using of late:

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL535/4923944/10469340/150626736.jpg
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL535/4923944/10469340/150629181.jpg
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL535/4923944/10469340/150629185.jpg

Stove, stand, and windscreen together weigh in at 2 oz. This stand is designed to be used with various sizes of stove, pot, and windscreen(not pictured) so it really could be made a bit lighter by tailoring it to a specific setup.

Lilred
05-28-2006, 19:35
Try getting some hardware cloth at the hardware store, kinda like chicken wire fencing only much sturdier. weighs practically nothing and you can make it exactly to size.

Doctari
05-28-2006, 22:24
Try getting some hardware cloth at the hardware store, kinda like chicken wire fencing only much sturdier. weighs practically nothing and you can make it exactly to size.

That's what I use, we call it "rabbit wire" round here, I use the 1/4 inch, but you can get 1/8 inch. Supports the heinekan can with ease. weighs about 1/4 oz, maybe less, but that's what my scale says.

Doctari.

Seeker
05-29-2006, 03:04
hardware cloth is pretty good stuff. easy to find, easy to cut to size.

with my ion stove, i've also used a cat food can. i cut out the bottom and made three large openings in the sides, removing most of the metal and ending up with a frame-like thing. works good, very light, but has started to melt some from the heat. 1/4 hardware cloth is still my favorite.

i've also seen designs where people stuck tent pegs through their aluminum flashing windscreens at the appropriate height to make a shelf for their pots to sit on.

Dances with Mice
05-29-2006, 03:23
i've also seen designs where people stuck tent pegs through their aluminum flashing windscreens at the appropriate height to make a shelf for their pots to sit on. Similar concept. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=5831&c=665&userid=1030) Don't have to make it that tall, really.

Just Jeff
05-29-2006, 04:51
Does the hardware cloth get brittle over time with repeated heating? I experimented with some but I thought the coat hanger one I posted in the other thread was simpler. I have a new idea with the hardware cloth that would be more stable, though...just concerned with durability, like that it'll get brittle and break.

Seeker
05-29-2006, 13:24
it doesn't get brittle that i've noticed, and if it ever does, it's cheap enough and easy enough to replace if it cracks to the point you can't use it... seems like only the top row of squares gets discolored/overheated in any case.

i've used a coathanger too, but couldn't get it to the point where i really trusted it. always seemed a little shaky.

Doctari
05-29-2006, 19:29
Yea, I think it may be more brittle, but It's not like I bend it that much. Stored its about a 2" diamater, open about 3" I suppose that after about 20 sessions round the stove it's stiffer; fresh from the store on scale of 1 - 10 its a 2 after heating a few dozen times it's a 2.9.

I have easily supported 1 gallon of water on it, so over 8 Lbs, & as my Heinekan pot never gets that much (will not hold it for one thing, most I have put in is 2 cups.) I have no worrys. My pot holder sets in a cat food can cut down with 5 notches, sort of acts as additional support and a reflector/suplemental wind screen

Don't forget a "real" windscreen by the way.



Doctari.

Just Jeff
05-30-2006, 01:04
it doesn't get brittle that i've noticed, and if it ever does, it's cheap enough and easy enough to replace if it cracks to the point you can't use it... seems like only the top row of squares gets discolored/overheated in any case.

i've used a coathanger too, but couldn't get it to the point where i really trusted it. always seemed a little shaky.

Yeah - I just don't want to need a replacement on day 2 of a 5 day hike.

The coat hanger one is perfectly stable. On my desk, anyway. :p It was a bit wobbly on the trail, though. I just got some new wire cutters today...I'll probably make my new stand tonight after wifey goes to bed.

sirbingo
05-30-2006, 11:06
Wow! I never thought of using tent stakes.

I use the penny alcohol stove and so this is a great solution for me.

:p

frequency
05-30-2006, 13:47
Wow! I never thought of using tent stakes.

I use the penny alcohol stove and so this is a great solution for me.

:p

how do you stick tent stakes in a picnic table?:-?

rpettit
05-30-2006, 15:37
You don't. You place the stove on the ground and stick the tent stakes in the ground around the stove.

headchange4u
05-31-2006, 11:12
You may also want to check out Zen Stoves template (http://zenstoves.net/Templates.htm) page for templates on making pot stands. May be useful.

Seeker
06-01-2006, 00:15
how do you stick tent stakes in a picnic table?:-?

stick them thru your windscreen, horizontally, to form a shelf to set your pot on.

rpettit
06-01-2006, 12:33
Does the heat deform the tent stakes when you use them as horizontal supports?