View Full Version : Anyone else enjoying "Everest: Beyond the Limit"
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 10:26
If you haven't seen this show yet you may want to give it a shot. I think it's really good and they have some amazing footage of hiking/climbing on Everest. Very inspirational!
Tuesday nights on the discovery channel.
I've caught 2 episodes. Great camera work in real tough conditions. The Discovery Channel website has a feature that shows several hours of video and audio of a continuous accent. There are two cameras on climbers and one at base camp. I've enjoyed the program so far, but wonder how the show will handle the unfortunate events of the climbing season.
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 11:05
Nice, I think there have only been two episodes so far. Do you know when this show was filmed?
hammock engineer
11-22-2006, 11:39
I like the show. I didn't realize now much work the Sherpas do and how little work the actual climbers do.
Those Sherpas are the profesionals of climbing. The 2 climber cams on the website are both on Sherpas, I think. I imagine that's because you can watch quick progress instead of somebody sucking wind.:cool:
DawnTreader
11-22-2006, 12:08
isn't it crazy... I would much rather the show focus on the sherpas than the climbers. I can't believe those guys.. they summit like it aint no thang.. The climbers on the show, save the 1 dude that is attempting oxygenless, seem weak.. I guess anyone with 10,000 dollars has a shot at the summit. The expedition leader seems very knowledgable and efficient, and it is nice to see how much he cares and worries about his sherpas... but again, the sherpas are the heroes here, they are the real climbers.. One of them put 6 full oxygen tanks in a backpack and hauled it up to camp 5, then the team returned to abc in the dark! unbelievable..
hammock engineer
11-22-2006, 12:18
I thought it was crazy how the Sherpas summited from the second base camp. All while carrying and laying saftey ropes. In one day, with loading starting out close to half their body wieght.
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 12:23
One of them put 6 full oxygen tanks in a backpack and hauled it up to camp 5, then the team returned to abc in the dark! unbelievable..
That was an awesome moment, those are some tough guys.
I missed last nights show. How was it.
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 12:28
I missed last nights show. How was it.
quite good. Some amazing coverage of the sherpas and their hard work. The big motorcycle guy is back in the mix for a summit attempt.
DawnTreader
11-22-2006, 13:11
I think motercycle dude will make it... He looked like he regained some spirit after returning from base camp.. He barely made it to North Col in 5 hours, but was in good shape when he got there, and safely returned.. Does anybody have the inside scoop on the outcome of this show?
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 13:20
Does anybody have the inside scoop on the outcome of this show?
If you do please don't post it!!! Send DT a PM.
No spoilers!
DawnTreader
11-22-2006, 13:23
hahaha.. good call RITBlake...good call..
do you think biker dude will make it?
hahaha.. good call RITBlake...good call..
do you think biker dude will make it?
after watching the first show I would have said No.
How is the guy with no legs...I saw on a preview that one of his legs froze and broke or something like that. Did that happen last night?
DawnTreader
11-22-2006, 13:58
after watching the first show I would have said No.
How is the guy with no legs...I saw on a preview that one of his legs froze and broke or something like that. Did that happen last night?
yeah, a sherpa hiked part way up to the North Col to give him a new one.. no big deal.. The biker dude really turned it around this episode.. I think he might make it..
Mother's Finest
11-22-2006, 14:38
this show is good. from a perspective of natural beauty alone, it is worth the look.
peace
mf
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 14:52
do you think biker dude will make it?
I do not. The group leader made it pretty clear last night that he didn't think he would make it and I guess that guy is the expert so I have to believe what he says. But who knows.
I do know that the young fit kid doing it with out bottled oxgen is a stud!
It's going to be amazing to watch how this show turns from everyone smiling and enjoying the mountain to people dying and getting lost on the mountain. That's a pretty rough transition.
I'm hooked on this show! I also like Man Vs. Wild but it's not nearly as entertaining as Everest.
hammock engineer
11-22-2006, 16:07
I think they reshow it sometime during the week.
I think no oxygen guy and biker dude will make it. I think the fire department guy won't.
DawnTreader
11-22-2006, 17:43
I don't think fire department guy will make it either.. Doctor dude will make it, but I'm not so sure about Lebenon guy or parapalegic man...
Man Vs. Wild is good too, but sometimes you gotta wonder about that guy Bear Grilles.. Some of the things he does, i.e. climbing up and down a waterfall, seem more like stunts than survival techniques..
RITBlake
11-22-2006, 18:42
I think they reshow it sometime during the week.
I think no oxygen guy and biker dude will make it. I think the fire department guy won't.
Yes they do reshow but sparingly. If you have digital cable you can also find it running on the excellant Discovery Times channel.
Tonight (Tuesday, Nov. 28th) at 10PM EST on the Discovery Channel, they are showing episode 3.
RITBlake
11-29-2006, 19:00
how was episode 3? I had to miss it.
freefall
11-29-2006, 21:13
I don't think fire department guy will make it either.. Doctor dude will make it, but I'm not so sure about Lebenon guy or parapalegic man...
Good call on the fireman.
how was episode 3? I had to miss it.
Good show. Everyone is still in except the fireman. Another announcement about someone dying from another expedtion.
I got to watch it late last night. That one dude climbing without oxygen is amazing. Sorry to see the fireman have to bail. He seems like he took it well. He made his summit which was as far as he could go, nice way of looking at it no matter how bad it hurts
DawnTreader
12-04-2006, 12:36
I have a feeling that oxygenless guy will need oxygen to get to the summit, however my inclinations tell me he will make it. episode 3 was great.
Fireman Freddy was way out of his element.. He was very graceful in his defeat, if infact it was a defeat; I've never been to the North Col of Everest, but would like to very much..
I Did some research on Russel Bryce during the show.. quite an amazing man. It's a shame he had to help commercialize Everest.
DawnTreader
12-06-2006, 12:03
anybody watch last night?? no oxygen dude is out!! dang, I thought he'd make it. That traffic jam to the summit was ridiculous.. I can't believe the number of people climbing at one time.. that is so dangerous.. what a joke..
I missed most of it before I remembered it was on. It showed some guys at the summit and then I saw the one without oxygen back at camp.
usually the show is repeated Friday night. I hope to watch it all then
RITBlake
12-06-2006, 12:54
got it tivo'd
Gotta watch it tonight.
Episode 4 starts at 10PM EST on Dicovery Channel. Check it out.:cool:
great show tonight. I won't tell what happened in case someone has it recorded. Final show is next week
Hammock Hanger
12-13-2006, 09:04
I totally missed this series and had hoped to watch it when I saw it advertised!!
Maybe they will do another one.
I just got done reading a book called The Climb. It is about the Everest Disaster a few years back. J Kachauser (sp) wrote one from the view of the Rob Hall group. This one is from the view of the Scott Fischer group.
RITBlake
12-13-2006, 11:23
great show tonight. I won't tell what happened in case someone has it recorded. Final show is next week
oh gawd what an episode! They really made you feel like you were right on the mountain with those guys. It must be so hard to stop and turn around when you are that close.
DawnTreader
12-13-2006, 11:31
It's like the biker dude wasn't even listening to Russel Bryce.. What a dumb A** . I guess if I shelled out 10000, was 350 feet from the summit at 7:30 in the morning, I wouldn't want to turn around either. Great episode.. The cinematography on the mountain is amazing. I can't say enough about those Sherpas.. What wonderfull climbing specimens those people are..
the previews for next week were great. Does the biker dude even come back alive???
RITBlake
12-13-2006, 22:01
It's like the biker dude wasn't even listening to Russel Bryce.. What a dumb A** .
I don't think its just about him being a stubborn dumbass. Once those guys get that high and push that hard their mental ability, specifically reasoning is impaired. He probably did believe that the summit was at the top of the slope and couldn't be reasoned with to believe otherwise. And like you said, if you shelled out all the money, came all the way, and really believed you were just steps from the summit, what would you do? :-?
RITBlake
12-13-2006, 22:03
the previews for next week were great. Does the biker dude even come back alive???
Yah really, I think Biker dude is making it down. However the turkish hiker they were dragging down the mountain will be dead (my prediction)
Anyone else find it amazing how some of the 'international' teams that come there are drastically unprepared.
tonight is the final show. It ought to be a good one
Thanks for the reminder Ewker.:sun I had forgotten.
RITBlake
12-20-2006, 01:56
wow.....
ANOTHER great episode but also sad.
The deceased: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sharp
Sir Edmund Hillary was right. That's some callous bunch.
terrapin_too
12-20-2006, 09:10
J Kachauser (sp) wrote one from the view of the Rob Hall group. This one is from the view of the Scott Fischer group.
You're thinking of Jon Krakauer's book, Into Thin Air. Incredible story. Krakauer is a gifted writer and climber. You might enjoy his other books also -- Into The Wild, Eiger Dreams, etc. He's ventured into a new area with the title, Under the Banner of Heaven. Not trail-related, but still an incredible read.
TJ aka Teej
12-20-2006, 09:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sharp
from the link:
Sir Edmund Hillary was highly critical of the decision not to try to rescue Sharp, saying that leaving other climbers to die is unacceptable, and the desire to summit has become all-important. He also said "I think the whole attitude towards climbing Mount Everest has become rather horrifying. The people just want to get to the top, it was wrong if there was a man suffering altitude problems and was huddled under a rock, just to lift your hat, say good morning and pass on by". He also told the New Zealand Herald that he was horrified by the callous attitude of today’s climbers. "They don’t give a damn for anybody else who may be in distress and it doesn’t impress me at all that they leave someone lying under a rock to die"
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I agree with Sir Edmund. There are things more important than reaching the top of a mountian.
I was highly critical of all the climbers who passed him by until I saw this show.
There were areas you had to walk that was extremely narrow much less having to carry another person over it. Even guys who were in shape had problems getting up and down. Now imagine trying to carry someone else down as you are struggling to live.
It sounds like people tried to help but it was to late for this guy.
You can see how making it to the top of Everest takes over. Tim and Gerard could have just as easily died up there.
RITBlake
12-20-2006, 10:42
The ending was so unreal showing how many of those guys lost fingers and toes. And that was a succesful Everest expedition. No thanks!
Tipi Walter
01-23-2007, 12:58
Missed it all, dangit. Is it for sale on DVD yet?
I try to read everything related to mountain EPICS: Everest debacles, Denali snow caves at "Minus 148 Degrees"(a great book), K2 disasters, Peruvian mountain mishaps, the Karluk mess, the Essex freeze, the Shackleton sufferings, the Robert Falcon Scott coldest walk, the werks!
Into Thin Air is also captivating. Beck Weathers wrote a book called "Left For Dead" and the Russian climber with Krakauer, Anatole ???? also wrote a great book about the hellish time on the South Col. There's also a whole series of stories about K2(nicknamed the death mountain)and ya can't forget the nearly 200 deaths atop Mt Washington in New Hampshire.
In one of my trail journals I wrote about their stories: "Their journeys make my backpacking journeys easier, putting into perspective my entire place on the natural spectrum, a slip on the ice here, an exertion up ice and the heart attack there, a fall into water, a wagon trail in high snow(Donner Party), a dead friend eaten, a lady broken by a climbing fall, delirium without warmth, without water, without food, without hope. How do others react, how am I doing and in the end it's all right to be feeble and it is proper to have our flickering candle flame extinguished by some Larger Hand. We are then 18 hour mayflies and some of us want Nature Herself to come screaming in the 17th hour, the perfect storm, into thin air, alive and adrift."
"By qualifying my moments, by balancing the checkbook, I lose sight of the giant wave, the frigid rime iced wind, the school bus on the back side of high water(Into The Wild), the white out above the South Col, the locking fists of the Weddell Sea, the coldest long walk with canvas tents, the ice cave on Denali."
Just some thoughts.
I thought Minus 148 Degrees was a great read. Once again, quite a thoughtful post, Tipi. I'll see if I can dig up any rebroadcast info on this Discovery Channel show. Regardless of one's opinion of the current climbing culture of Everest, the camera work on this show was as good as I've seen.
DawnTreader
01-23-2007, 13:58
I was horrified also watching the drama of the last few episodes.. No thank you, I'll pass. Although I can't imagine what I would do in such a sitiuation as finding someone on the pass dying, I'd like to think that I would at least do what I could for the man. What shook me was that nobody even considered a rescue. If I remember correctly, when I read "into thin air", the Sherpas pulled someone off the mountain. The sherpas made a sled to get parapalegic man off the mountain during this very show... Why wasn't the same done for this dying man?
Shake_N_Bake
01-24-2007, 20:37
Why wasn't the same done for this dying man?
Location, location, location. As high up as the dying climber was your options are severely limited. The other rescues were from much lower elevations.
Also they did show short clips of multiple climbers trying to help David Sharp. Of course they are not going to show all efforts, conversations etc. They did have to fit the broadcast time allotted.
rswanson
01-30-2007, 16:09
As a side note, I just read in the latest issue of Backpacker that someone on the production crew of this show was testing very old school mountaineering equipment (1920's era) in between shoots, with a great deal of success. The tester states that Mallory and Irvine could definitely pulled off a summit attempt with the clothing and gear they had available to them at that time. In the magazine there's a picture of him climbing in wool gabardine duds next to a modern era down suit-clad Russell Bryce. Pretty cool.
I just saw on the Discovery Channel that Everest2 starts later on this month