Bacon and eggs [Archive] - WhiteBlaze

trailwalker

01-27-2007, 00:27

With the advent of bacon and sausage that has already been cooked and does not have to be refrig, my question is How long will eggs last before going bad, could you eat them after carrying them say for a day in your pack? And I am not talking about hard boiled ones. Love the smell of bacon in the morning along with coffee,now if I could just have some eggs !!! :sun thanks Happy Hiking Trailwalker

2009ThruHiker

01-27-2007, 00:34

My grandparents own 3 chicken houses and we've eaten eggs out of refrigeration for two or three days, but then again they were fresh as fresh gets. Once they've been refigerated, I don't think it's a very good idea to bring them to "room temperature" for very long.
Either aim to do this in cold weather hiking, or buy a chicken. Or better yet take the chicken on the trail with you.:D

Lone Wolf

01-27-2007, 00:34

I've carried raw bacon and eggs for 4 days no problem

sweetpeastu

01-27-2007, 00:38

um walmart sells precooked bacon ....its pretty good. I've eaten it on the last two backpacking trips I've been on. They also have those lovely packages, as I'm sure you know, of like freezed dried eggs. Whats wrong with that stuff? NOt fresh enough?

RAT

01-27-2007, 00:40

I've carried raw bacon and eggs for 4 days no problem

Ditto, same here. The pre-cooked bacon is pretty damn good. Freeze dried eggs suck IMO.

RAT

4eyedbuzzard

01-27-2007, 00:52

I remember reading somewhere that if you dip them in boiling water for 3 seconds(not minutes) they will then keep for about a week even in relatively warm temperatures. They will be "flatter" than a fresh egg, but even in the fridge eggs don't get better with age - unless you like Philippino delicacies. In many parts of the world eggs are not refrigerated. The U.S. is a bit overjealous at times on public health/food safety.

http://www.chickenhop.com/info/about_eggs.html
http://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking/icooks/11-01-02.html
http://itstimsblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/eggcellent-unrefrigerated-eggs.html

ed bell

01-27-2007, 00:57

I love cooking bacon and eggs. That's why I usually decide to wreck my back by takin' the frypan along.:rolleyes:;)

4eyedbuzzard

01-27-2007, 01:14

Me too. I'm "old school". Lightweight frying pan, eggs, some frozen meat(stays cold between styrofoam for 2 days), bisquick(pancakes and panbreads), etc might weigh 3 lbs. All but the 6 oz fry pan will be gone in two to three days and I'll be a well fed hiker.

mike!

01-27-2007, 04:33

I've had eggs out for about 4 days without any problems, and i heard about that lightly boiling them works aswell. i've kept my eggs in my pot, (with some carefull padding) and havent had one break yet.

i was thinking about a frypan aswell, but i was thinking about using a snowpeak plate. they're 2 ounces, and 7 1/2" diameter, could be a pretty light solution. but has anyone ever see one?
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39166638

mike!

Frolicking Dinosaurs

01-27-2007, 07:27

Eggs don't go bad easily - mother nature knows how to package food :D. I've eaten them 4 days out in cool weather. My grandparents had chickens and I've found eggs with a bit of dust on them in the hay loft - granny would crack them into a bowl to be sure they were OK before using. Many were fine.

I use powdered eggs, powdered cheese, powdered milk, the new pre-cooked bacon, onion & sweet pepper flakes, a mix of spices to make back country omelets. Bisquik globs can be placed on top to make steamed biscuits. When doing this for two, I cook it until the alcohol stove runs out of fuel and then cozy it for 10 more minutes. Be sure to gease your pan first (all the way up the sides) or you will never get this off your pan.

My mix of spices - seasoned salt, black pepper, garlic powder, celery seed, onion powder, a small amount of dried mustard.

Another way to use powdered eggs - add them to bisquik and make some really filling pan bread. I use this for dinner sometimes by adding cheese powder, dried veggies and/or various chopped meats. For breakfast, I use cheese powder and the spice mix above. Drop a gob of dough big enough to make a Hardee's biscuit size piece - flatten to about 1.5 inch. Cook 5 minutes, flip, add bacon strips atop bread. Cook until stove goes out and cozy five to ten more minutes. Again, grease the pan well (I use olive oil).

carolina trekker

01-27-2007, 08:11

I used to carry eggs on multi-day backpacking trips (3-4 days). I wrapped each egg individually in aluminum foil, and then packed securely. No problems at all.

Toolshed

01-27-2007, 10:25

I beleive it has only been in the last couple of decades that the US has required eggs be refridgerated - Before then they weren't. but then again, eggs were purchased every few days at the markets, rather than a dozen or two every couple of weeks. I wonder also if it has to do with the proliference of large commercial chicken farms and a higher possibility of salmonella.

In the UK, many still don't refridgerate eggs. We get them daily from the chickens on my cousins farms and just keep them in a basket in the kitchen to be used over the next few days. There is also probably a much less chance of salmonella on small free range farms.

I would not be too worried about eggs going bad over a 3-4 day period, unless it was during a hot period of 80d nights and 90d days.

briarpatch

01-27-2007, 10:27

I've carried raw bacon and eggs for 4 days no problem

Next thing you know, you are gonna tell us you don't filter your water, either. Livin' on the edge. ;)

Seriously, I've carried eggs for a day or 2 with no problems. I've also heard of old time sailors dipping them in paraffin to let them carry eggs for a while at sea.

Lone Wolf

01-27-2007, 10:29

Next thing you know, you are gonna tell us you don't filter your water, either. Livin' on the edge. ;)

have i ever mentioned how i feel about shelters and leki poles?:)

Rain Man

01-27-2007, 11:38

I remember reading somewhere that if you dip them in boiling water for 3 seconds(not minutes) they will then keep for about a week even in relatively warm temperatures.

Yeah, I remember that from the other thread on this same subject a couple of months ago. If you'll do a quick search for "eggs" and "vaseline" it'll take you to two good threads on this topic.

I've also read that you can rub them in vaseline for a similar effect. It replaces the "bloom" egss have when first laid. I think it seals up tiny cracks in the shell. Not sure though.

Trailwalker, I'm sure you could ask your local "extension agent" for your State's agricultural college. They probably have a pamphlet on the subject! But check out the two other threads on WhiteBlaze. Lots of good info there too. One is titled "Dehydrated Eggs" and the other is titled "What "refrigerate" after opening products hold up well on the trail?"

Rain:sunMan

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Footslogger

01-27-2007, 11:52

If you like the taste and but don't want to fry on the trail or be concerned about spoilage just hard boil the eggs before you leave and carry the no-cook bacon.

'Slogger

Rocketman

03-01-2007, 22:42

I live in a Midwest metro area of about 400,000 people, and the number of places to buy dried eggs is very very small. I like them on bike camping trips, and carry them in a Rubbermaid container for up to a week with no problem.

I carry either hard salami, small 3 Oz packages of pepperoni or pre-cooked bacon to have meat and eggs for breakfast. I often spice up the eggs with cheese (powder) or other spices, as well as the grease/oil from heated bacon or sausage.

On the AT, does anybody know the prospects of finding dried eggs at any of the resupply towns?

I used to carry fresh eggs for up to 4 days before I found the powdered eggs. So, for the most part, I will still have my eggs and meat breakfasts.

doggiebag

03-02-2007, 00:40

Jim Adams

03-02-2007, 01:10

Ditto, same here. The pre-cooked bacon is pretty damn good. Freeze dried eggs suck IMO.

RAT
Powdered or freeze dried eggs really do suck but with a loaf of bread, they make GREAT french toast!:D

geek

Joshrm78

03-02-2007, 01:43

Ive used eggs in the summer that werent refrigerated for over a week. Never had a problem.

Wanderingson

03-02-2007, 06:53

Eggcellent topic

I have had no problems with fresh eggs for several days and can even extend the life a couple of extra days by hard boiling them after a few days.

I'll have to agree that powdered or dehydrated eggs can suck if consumed by themselves, but I rarely do that. In my spice/condimnet pouch, I keep many dehydrated spices and powders to enhnce to edibility of the powdered eggs. It's amazing what a little cheese powder, tabasco, and other flavored powered will do to the taste. A little powdered milk even adds a wee bit to the texture. best to eggsperiment a little to see what works for you.

I am Sam, Sam I am, I do not like Green Eggs and ham.

NICKTHEGREEK

03-02-2007, 07:17

Next thing you know, you are gonna tell us you don't filter your water, either. Livin' on the edge. ;)

Seriously, I've carried eggs for a day or 2 with no problems. I've also heard of old time sailors dipping them in paraffin to let them carry eggs for a while at sea.

Thery still do-long distance sailors "wax" eggs and they keep for weeks.

TJ aka Teej

03-02-2007, 07:33

The pre-cooked bacon I've tried has been nasty - what's the best brand for this near-doggy-treat meat-like product?

doggiebag

03-02-2007, 08:34

Thery still do-long distance sailors "wax" eggs and they keep for weeks.
The old voyagers usually carried egg laying stock in thier vessels. The current passage makers (blue water sailors) usually have efficient 12 volt refrigeration on board. I love my eggs and bacon so I'll dig into this waxed thing a little more.

Wanderingson

03-02-2007, 09:34

Thery still do-long distance sailors "wax" eggs and they keep for weeks.

I hear some long distance sailors wax their leggs to>:banana

doggiebag

03-02-2007, 20:16

I hear some long distance sailors wax their leggs to>:banana
U can also learn from nature ... It's usually fortelling of a hard winter when you start seeing squirrels waxing their nuts. Ha! back at ya :banana