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Skidsteer 02-05-2007, 19:27 Here’s my latest idea for a decent cup of trail coffee. It’s lightweight(2 oz.), multi-use, and the clean up is easy.
To make this project you’ll need a Ziploc Twist n’ Loc(size medium, round)and a Ziploc bowl(size extra small). (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15091&catid=favorites)
Throw away the lid for the XS bowl and cut the center out of the medium lid. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15090&catid=favorites) A razor knife works well.
Drill a hole in the bottom of the XS bowl and snap the lid of the medium bowl over the top like this (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15089&catid=favorites). Use the pared down bottom of a real drip coffee maker basket (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15088&catid=favorites)(search the thrift stores)to prevent clogging.
Making coffee is easy. Put a 4-cup filter and your favorite coffee (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15087&catid=favorites)in the bowl/basket, heat water and pour it in (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15086&catid=favorites). When you’re done throw the grounds in a cathole, a privy, or the woods. Throw the used filter in your trashbag and cleanup is pretty much complete.
Here’s the multi-use part:
-The lid with the basket inserted will still screw on to the medium container enabling you to store a Heineken pot/stove/stand set up inside (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15085&catid=favorites)with room to spare. The various components (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15084&catid=favorites)shown here total out at 4.25 oz. There is room enough for a fuel bottle inside the pot if you wish.
-You can use it as a freezer bag cozy by insulating it with CCF, reflectix, or putting it inside a hat or balaclava.
-If you don’t freezer bag cook, you can use it just like Sgt. Rock’s lemonade jar and eat directly from the bowl.
Coffee addicts unite!
Why not just use a #2 Mellita filter and holder at about 1 ounce - a lot lighter and a whole lot less complicated!:)
Dances with Mice 02-05-2007, 20:03 You'll get my French Press mug (http://www.smartcafe.co.uk/products/hot_cafetiere_travel_cup.asp)when you pry it from my cold, dead....
...I meant warm, twitchy, shakey...
fingers.
Skidsteer 02-05-2007, 20:17 Why not just use a #2 Mellita filter and holder at about 1 ounce - a lot lighter and a whole lot less complicated!:)
Less complicated how? They both work on gravity.
Lighter? How much does your coffee cup weigh? That figures in the equation.
Can you fit a pot, stove, fuel, and stand inside a Melitta? Then add in the stuff sack or container that you use.
And a #2 Melitta weighs more than an ounce...:)
StarLyte 02-05-2007, 20:22 You'll get my French Press mug (http://www.smartcafe.co.uk/products/hot_cafetiere_travel_cup.asp)when you pry it from my cold, dead....
...I meant warm, twitchy, shakey...
fingers.
HA!!
Skids---you are on it my friend. Thanks for starting this thread. Coffee is my thang.
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-05-2007, 20:35 ::: furiously kisses skidsteer on the toes :::
Two medium (4 cup) containers + 1 x-small 'filter basket' = two very happy dinos. The female dino will be especially happy with not having to clean cowboy coffee outta the big pot before cooking breakfast. ::: kisses toes again :::
Skidsteer 02-05-2007, 20:39 HA!!
Skids---you are on it my friend. Thanks for starting this thread. Coffee is my thang.
Coffee is a matter of the heart. Passionate, hot, and intensely personal.
The best part of waking up. :)
Skidsteer 02-05-2007, 21:01 ::: furiously kisses skidsteer on the toes :::
Two medium (4 cup) containers + 1 x-small 'filter basket' = two very happy dinos. The female dino will be especially happy with not having to clean cowboy coffee outta the big pot before cooking breakfast. ::: kisses toes again :::
De nada. :)
Rufous Sided Towhee 02-05-2007, 23:51 If you need to save ounces, you can't get any lighter than a teaspoon of instant. No filters, no pots, no presses. Just boil a cup of water and toss it the granulated morning goodness in. Save the heavy "fancy coffee" thing for an in-town treat.
Look at it this way: food we might turn our noses up in town tastes heavenly out there. Same with coffee, IMHO.
Greentick18d 02-05-2007, 23:54 If you need to save ounces, you can't get any lighter than a teaspoon of instant. No filters, no pots, no presses. Just boil a cup of water and toss it the granulated morning goodness in. Save the heavy "fancy coffee" thing for an in-town treat.
Look at it this way: food we might turn our noses up in town tastes heavenly out there. Same with coffee, IMHO.
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
hammock engineer 02-05-2007, 23:54 Why not just use a #2 Mellita filter and holder at about 1 ounce - a lot lighter and a whole lot less complicated!:)
It's a DIY thing. Sometimes things are better when you make it.:o
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Why go without one's favorite coffee while on a trail? Nice post skidsteer. I agree with you G18.:sun
Dingus Khan 02-06-2007, 00:39 Ummmm, not to point out the obvious, but why not use the "tea style" coffee bags?:o
I think about 20 of these weigh in at less than 4 oz and if you really wanna get sick in the head you can reuse them if you like your coffee weak.
Personally, I like the strong stuff, the bags have worked out great. A little bulkier than coffee grounds alone, but if you add in the space of the filters + basket it is smaller...
As some would say, just my 0.02$
Cheers and happy drinking!
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-06-2007, 08:19 Skids, I had a thought last night - wonder if one of those permanent coffee filters (http://www.fantes.com/images/12979coffeefilter.jpg) would fit a ziplock twist n lock cup? If so, the top would not have to be cut and could be used for rehydration while hiking, storage, etc. The X-small one cup with a hole would be unnecessary and there would be no paper filters to deal with.
Skidsteer 02-06-2007, 08:32 Skids, I had a thought last night - wonder if one of those permanent coffee filters (http://www.fantes.com/images/12979coffeefilter.jpg) would fit a ziplock twist n lock cup? If so, the top would not have to be cut and could be used for rehydration while hiking, storage, etc. The X-small one cup with a hole would be unnecessary and there would be no paper filters to deal with.
Yes, I'm pretty sure you could find one that fits or modify it to fit. Personally, I dislike cleaning the mesh from a reusable filter or coffee press which is part of the inspiration for this gadget.
To me it seems easier to throw out the grounds and pack out the filter in a trash bag. It's all good when it comes to coffee, though.
TinAbbey 02-06-2007, 09:11 on my thru I stopped liking coffee for a little bit, which was a shock. But later I got my tastes back. maybe they just don't brew right in the south?
The Weasel 02-06-2007, 09:46 Learn to "brew" coffee: Boil water, then add 1 rounded teaspoon of grounds per cup of water, and 1 extra "for the pot", i.e. if pot holds 4 cups, 5 spoons of coffee. After adding grounds, stir 1-2 times to prevent foaming and allow to boil for another 5 minutes (longer/shorter with practice depending on how strong you want it.) Remove from stove, let settle for 2-3 minutes then pour to cup. Coffee will be cloudier, but should not have grounds in it (mine never does, practice gets you there), but will be far more flavorful than even drip coffee.
The Weasel
::: furiously kisses skidsteer on the toes ::: The female dino will be especially happy with not having to clean cowboy coffee outta the big pot before cooking breakfast. ::: kisses toes again :::
You see what you went and did Amigo, I would bet she would be willing to include a homemade light blue silnylon kitchen apron to go along with her appreciation.
I would bet the mandino would be willing to swallow the grounds from his cowboy coffee than to have it replaced by such, hmm such, uhh such, having it replaced with something else.:D
For breakfast I have a handfull of chocolate covered expresso beans and a hot cup of water to wash em down. Now thats coffee. (just kidding, don't drink coffee)
We shave the grams off our stoves to make room for other amenities;) we are a strange lot!!!!
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-06-2007, 09:51 ::: bites zelph on the finger holding his tin snips :D :::
sirbingo 02-06-2007, 09:53 Why not just use a #2 Mellita filter and holder at about 1 ounce - a lot lighter and a whole lot less complicated!:)
Word UP!
:cool:
TN_Hiker 02-06-2007, 10:47 Skidsteer, why the pared down bottom of the coffee maker basket? Wouldn't just the hole serve the same purpose? Thanks for sharing your idea. Nice to know I'm not the only one looking for that perfect backpacking coffee maker.
Ramble~On 02-06-2007, 11:22 I found a plastic strainer smaller than a measuring cup. The "strainer" is a fine mesh and the thing fits onto all sorts of containers including my insulated plastic mug. I like tea and coffee...coffee in the morning..tea all day... Good tea.....good coffee.
great setup skids and thanks for the ideas!!
Here’s my latest idea for a decent cup of trail coffee. It’s ...............BLAH.............BLAH.........BLAH. ...........FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Coffee addicts unite!
it's NOT about the CUP!...
its about the COFFEE!:D
Rufous Sided Towhee 02-06-2007, 15:14 Another reason to learn to like instant on the trail is that there are no coffee grounds to dispose of. Those of you brewing coffee out there, what do you do with the grounds afterwards?
The Romping Dino Lady gave the best reason for this rig:
Cleaning the pot before cooking the oatmeal. This is a legitimate bitch in the one pot cooking discipline.
And Zelph phrased it best. Some of us shave grams to carry pound of goodies.
I resist becoming a ZEN Warrior Hiker, with bare necessities.
I want a pillow!! <G>
Tom
And coffee
Another reason to learn to like instant on the trail is that there are no coffee grounds to dispose of. Those of you brewing coffee out there, what do you do with the grounds afterwards?
I like intstant coffee for what it is... Not really coffee but similar in taste with the same jolt. Plus, you dont deal with grounds.
I do have a Melitta, though. (1 5/8 oz.) It fits perfectly into a 32 fl.oz. tumbler.
I might have to experiment with the coffeebags.
Skidsteer 02-06-2007, 17:47 Skidsteer, why the pared down bottom of the coffee maker basket? Wouldn't just the hole serve the same purpose? Thanks for sharing your idea. Nice to know I'm not the only one looking for that perfect backpacking coffee maker.
Because when I tested without it, the coffee filter would essentially seal itself to the bottom of the bowl so tightly that coffee would not flow. Not good. That's when I remembered the little ridges found on the bottom of coffee baskets and realized the reason for them.
Next, I'll heat the tip of a Philips head screwdriver and mold ridges or bumps in the bottom of the bowl itself and eliminate the need for the basket bottom. If it works, it'll save .25 oz and bring the total weight down to 1.75 oz.
Some of you are missing the point a bit, I think. Do you carry a coffee cup? If it weighs more than 2 oz., this setup can save weight and brew your coffee(up to three cups at a time).
Do you carry a lemonade jar or peanut butter jar to eat out of? This can serve that purpose as well and brew your coffee.
Do you carry a Heineken kitchen in a stuff sack? Not needed anymore.
Freezer bag cozy? Ditto.
Wide mouthed cup for dipping water from shallow sources?
Lightning bug jar? OK, I just made that one up.
*Regarding LNT, Chip Rawlins in 'Walker IV' recommended disposing of coffee grounds in a cathole. Seems like a reasonable idea to me. The coffee filter probably degrades as well as TP, but I squeeze the excess water from them and carry them out in my trashbag. I don't use that method with TP because I've found I just can't carry that much hand sanitizer.
mweinstone 02-06-2007, 17:51 why dont you just rub beans and grinds all over.............
Skidsteer 02-07-2007, 22:16 Next, I'll heat the tip of a Philips head screwdriver and mold ridges or bumps in the bottom of the bowl itself and eliminate the need for the basket bottom. If it works, it'll save .25 oz and bring the total weight down to 1.75 oz.
Quick update:
I used a small soldering iron to cut some channels in the 'basket'. It works better than the original and saves .25 oz.
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-08-2007, 06:35 ::: Real coffee drinking dinos eat tea drinkers' toes for breakfast :D :::
Quick update:
I used a small soldering iron to cut some channels in the 'basket'. It works better than the original and saves .25 oz.
Drill a whole bunch of 1/4 inch holes in the "Basket". It will make it lighter and will allow fluid to pass through quicker. The "basket" filled with holes will support the 4 cup paper filter no problem. With the reduced weight you'll be able to carry something else, like the little blue silnylon apron:banana
(added text) Everyone should try making tea from the leaves of the low growing shrub found along the AP trails. The name of the shrub is New Jersey Tea (Ceonothus Americanus) It was used as a substitute in colonial times during the tea embargo, also during the "Cival War" Harvest it as you walk along.
Skidsteer 02-08-2007, 18:40 Drill a whole bunch of 1/4 inch holes in the "Basket". It will make it lighter and will allow fluid to pass through quicker. The "basket" filled with holes will support the 4 cup paper filter no problem. With the reduced weight you'll be able to carry something else, like the little blue silnylon apron:banana
(added text) Everyone should try making tea from the leaves of the low growing shrub found along the AP trails. The name of the shrub is New Jersey Tea (Ceonothus Americanus) It was used as a substitute in colonial times during the tea embargo, also during the "Cival War" Harvest it as you walk along.
That's a good idea, Zelph, but personally I was trying to slow it down a bit without stopping it altogether. I prefer good coffee on the strong side(very strong side!)and for full-bodied coffee it helps to approximate the time a commercial drip coffee maker would take to brew the same amount. If I could choke down weak coffee I'd be set. Folgers, Maxwell House, etc. sell filter packs that are basically large teabags and produce coffee that tastes exactly like, well, er, Folgers or Maxwell House.
I'd rather drink instant or go without. Some may call me a snob; I prefer the phrase, "A man with strong preferences".:)
The nice thing is that folks can modify it to suit their own tastes WRT coffee. The main reason I passed the idea along is the slick way the containers fit together to form a reasonably lightweight set up for coffee that's easy to clean and can serve more than one purpose. And perhaps someone may be inspired to come up with a separate use that didn't occur to me but nevertheless adds value to their kit.
Is this (http://www.nichegardens.com/images/plants/ceanothus_americanus.jpg) the plant you're referring to? I'll keep an eye out for it.
I was trying to slow it down a bit without stopping it altogether. I prefer good coffee on the strong side(very strong side!)and for full-bodied coffee it helps to approximate the time a commercial drip coffee maker would take to brew the same amount. If I could choke down weak coffee I'd be set. Folgers, Maxwell House, etc. sell filter packs that are basically large teabags and produce coffee that tastes exactly like, well, er, Folgers or Maxwell House.
I'd rather drink instant or go without. Some may call me a snob; I prefer the phrase, "A man with strong preferences".:)
The nice thing is that folks can modify it to suit their own tastes WRT coffee. The main reason I passed the idea along is the slick way the containers fit together to form a reasonably lightweight set up for coffee that's easy to clean and can serve more than one purpose. And perhaps someone may be inspired to come up with a separate use that didn't occur to me but nevertheless adds value to their kit.
Is this (http://www.nichegardens.com/images/plants/ceanothus_americanus.jpg) the plant you're referring to? I'll keep an eye out for it.
Thanks, now I have a better understanding of what you were trying to convey.
Yes, thats the plant, has tiny white flowers that attract tiny flying insects that in turn attract hummingbirds. Hummingbirds eat those little guys. Guess they need their share of protien. Another interesting thing about the plant is the seeds require a dose of high temperature fire/boil to unlock the mechanism that allows them to germinate. I boil the seeds to get them to germinate. The seeds look like little black bb's, similar to wild leek seeds. Wild leek is another plant to find in the woods along the trail. Good addition to a dandilion salad.
Also, keep an eye open to spot the Kentucky Coffee tree. The seed pods are huge 4 to 6 inch long by 2 inch wide, cant miss em. Collect in fall or early spring. Roast and grind seed to make coffee. I'll post photos when I find the pods in my garage that were collected in the fall.
I'm confused... how is this set-up better (and I trust your design skills, so I'm sure it is, I just don't get it) than the .95 oz french press screen made by Jetboil that could be used in a wide-mouth PB jar or pot? Help! :confused:
Instant. All the while dreaming about good coffee, because it helps with the nasty instant.
moondoggy 02-10-2007, 00:09 I used those Maxwell House coffee bags this summer....To me they made coffee that tasted just like instant......only weaker.... I even tried using two per cup.....It just wasn't very good.
Thanks Skids.....heading to the store in the morning to purchase bowls
Skidsteer 02-10-2007, 08:29 I'm confused... how is this set-up better (and I trust your design skills, so I'm sure it is, I just don't get it) than the .95 oz french press screen made by Jetboil that could be used in a wide-mouth PB jar or pot? Help! :confused:
LOL, all right 1pint, I'll have another go at it.
You question as stated is really about two separate weight contests(JB press/PB jar vs. the Ziploc drip or JB press/JB pot vs. Ziploc drip)
There is also the convenience or cleanup aspect of presses in general versus filters.
First, weight:
JB/PB jar vs. Ziploc drip
A JB press weighs 1.2 oz (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47880175&parent_category_rn=4500495). The only PB jar I could find in the house to weigh is a small one that would not be large enough to work with the JB press, but I'll use it for comparison anyway. It weighs 1.35 oz. Maybe someone with a full size PB jar could post the weight.
1.35 oz +1.2 oz = 2.55 oz for the JB/PB jar setup.
The Ziploc drip setup in it's present form weighs 1.75 oz.
JB press/pot vs. Ziploc drip
If a person is carrying a JB system they've already decided that weight is not the most important factor to them so yeah, sure, why not carry an additional 1.2 oz for decent coffee? ;)
Presses vs. filters
I have a few presses like the one Dances with Mice posted earlier in the thread, and they make great coffee. I use them quite often and they are easy to clean so long as you have access to running water and rinse them out soon after use. They weigh about 6.4 oz and make about 10 oz of coffee at a time.
While hiking however, I found it was kind of a pain to get the packed down grounds out of the bottom and took no little amount of water to do so. Using a filter there are no grounds to contend with and you can clean it without water, if needed, by wiping it with a bandanna.
Does all this sound like splitting hairs? It kinda is and a lot of this comes down to personal preferences. The Ziploc drip is just another option in the eternal quest for a good cup of coffee. :)
skyhiker2 02-10-2007, 09:16 I love coffee everything from star-bucks to Dunkin Donuts,, I would love to add something to this thread but the only thing I can say here is.
"The best part of waking up is Folgers in your cup" " INSTANT"
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-10-2007, 09:57 ::: bites Skyhiker2 on toes for saying dirty word (!n$tant) :::
4eyedbuzzard 02-10-2007, 10:55 Instant may be quicker and easier, but quicker and easier doesn't make everything better - as Mrs. Buzzard would be "quick" to point out. A slow, comfortable brew is one of life's best things. Instant and "quickies" are best for lunchtime.;)
The best part of waking up, is--EDITED--sometimes coffee is a distant second.:D
terrapin_too 02-10-2007, 11:27 I must be strange or something. I love good coffee in the "real world" but it doesn't do much for me on the trail. For some reason, on the trail, tea is what I crave for hot drinks. :-? Maybe it's the association of coffee with work. ;)
The Breeze 02-11-2007, 11:44 how much coffee do you put in a jetboil for a good pot just got one have not used it yet :welcome :-?
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
But wise !!!
i prefer coffee single bags:cool: neo
It kinda is and a lot of this comes down to personal preferences. The Ziploc drip is just another option in the eternal quest for a good cup of coffee. :)
Skidsteer - thanks for the info. I do like a good cup in the morning but after my hike yesterday, I've decided the coffee weight is just not worth it. I'm in the process of really culling out those last ounces that are adding up to too much weight and I can't justify hauling around calorie-free coffee grounds. What a bummer. :( Now if only you could design a coffee press that will keep the enticing aroma of other people's coffee contained at their camp....
beamarshall 02-12-2007, 13:38 But if it can be multi-purposed as a re-hydrator and a strainer, then you'll still have a reason to keep it handy, so other people might have coffee to share you'll be ready to impress them?
(I used to not drink coffee, but my friends liked me to stay over, 'cause I wake up at dawn and sneak into their kitchen to make coffee, all ready when they woke up...)
Just a thought.. Betsy
yeah, i made one couple days ago, used to make coffee and then cooked dinner with it
Here's my no-weight option. I make cowboy coffee right in my cup. I just pour hot water over grounds in the cup and let it sit for awhile. Add a little cold water and most of the grounds sink. You will get plenty of fiber though and a dirty cup too. It does keep your cooking pot clean.
Commercial coffee bags are aweful. Another option is to make your own bags by using "t-sacs" These are single use individual filter bags you can buy at tea stores. Just put in ground coffee instead of tea. Disposal is an issue like any filter system.
Life's a series of compromises. If you want the java you have to pay the price.
Frolicking Dinosaurs 02-12-2007, 20:04 I've used a tea ball to make individual cups. Works well.
Skidsteer 02-12-2007, 20:11 Skidsteer - thanks for the info. I do like a good cup in the morning but after my hike yesterday, I've decided the coffee weight is just not worth it. I'm in the process of really culling out those last ounces that are adding up to too much weight and I can't justify hauling around calorie-free coffee grounds. What a bummer. :( Now if only you could design a coffee press that will keep the enticing aroma of other people's coffee contained at their camp....
Suit yourself. :) You may recant and decide to add the coffee back in your kit about the time a PBR starts to taste like a Belgian Ale. ;)
Suit yourself. :) You may recant and decide to add the coffee back in your kit about the time a PBR starts to taste like a Belgian Ale. ;)
:eek: Not that! Say it isn't so!! No one said loss of tastebuds was a side-effect of long-distance hiking! Uh oh, back to the drawing board. Hmmm, maybe being chained to my desk for the next 25 years isn't such a bad idea afterall....
Really, though, I'm just starting to get concerned about my pack weight. Thought I was doing really when I look at it on paper. Then I go and do something stupid like hike with a full pack on and well - it feels like I'm hauling a lot around. So, where to cut? First goes the coffee. Maybe when I'm stronger and I've been on the trail, you're right that I'll feel like I can afford to add the 10 oz of grounds back to my pack. :confused:
88BlueGT 01-20-2008, 04:41 It's a DIY thing. Sometimes things are better when you make it.:o
I agree. I just got a Optimus Nova + stove for Christmas (used it a few times but not on the trail yet) but I find myself wanting to take my pepsi stove (just made it the other night) on my next trip :D
pure_mahem 01-21-2008, 01:51 I like your coffee maker Skids! But, I had to mention something a lot of used to do at one of my old jobs. It was a really hot mill that used huge ovens in the ceiling to cook coated fiberglass with a teflon coating. Any way they supplied us with fresh coffee. We had a grinder and everything. But sometimes the coffee just isn't strong enough with the lullaby of the heat. We would actually take fresh grouns and stick em in our lip like a dip of chew. I use to chew and gave it up not wanting to get cancer and I'll tell you if you can handle the fine cut chew you can use the coffee bean dip and it will keep you awake and give you that extra perk in your step. Don't do that anymore but if I was feeling a little down one day I would think it sure would beat an energy drink.
The other thing is a lot of the gardening shows say that coffee grounds are good for plants. I'd pack out the filter and broadcast the grounds so they blended with the dirt they'll compost quickly enough. I wouldn't just dump them out in a pile that's unsightly.
In one show, the bomb squad has brought to the squadroom a "machine" of some sort that a college kid was making for his thesis. The whole bunch of cops and the bomb squad are standing around trying to figure out if it is a bomb or not when Deitrich strolls into the room, takes one glance at the device as he is on his way to the coffe machine and says in his very matter of fact way "where'd you get the atomic bomb?"
At which point everyone kind of takes one step back away from the device.
SlowLightTrek 02-01-2008, 09:06 I used this it held up from GA to ME. Don't bend the lid back turn it sideways and back on the handle or it will break at the pivot point.
SlowLightTrek 02-01-2008, 09:08 http://www.rei.com/product/638124
It weighs 12 grams.
deadhorsejoe 04-25-2008, 00:18 I tried Bonjour's idea (several posts before) of putting coffee in the heat sealable tea bags that can be bought in many places. Got mine from Sunburstbottle.com. I used the 2.5 in x 2.5 in bags. Put Cafe Bustelo Expresso grind (my ever day coffee) in the bag sealed it up and placed into hot water. Move bag around with a spoon. Pretty fair cup of coffee. Much better that instant and very light weight.
Hi Skidsteer !
Mine is 3 oz including windscreen, potgripper, cup, burner and even 2 ti stakes :-)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36095
the best coffee is made with a french press or a gravity cone (per Starbucks brochure)
One step simpler than lugging a french press is to carry a tea strainer.
boil water, remove from fire add coffee, stir and let sit for five. pour through the strainer into a cup.
I suppose a cozy could be added, but the first cups go by pretty fast in my world.
There's nothing wrong with the tea ball idea either, or coffee bags. It's just hard to get good coffee in a bag.
Miles of Smiles
Tom
Skidsteer 04-25-2008, 17:30 Hi Skidsteer !
Mine is 3 oz including windscreen, potgripper, cup, burner and even 2 ti stakes :-)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36095
Way to go. Nice set-up.
the best coffee is made with a french press or a gravity cone (per Starbucks brochure)
Miles of Smiles
Tom
Yep. A gravity cone pretty well describes my kit.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids016.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids016.jpg)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids015.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids015.jpg)
I just realized I neglected to post the video I did on this thread. It demonstrates how to make coffee with a variation of the system described in post # 1.The link is Coffee on the Trail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umLNmIlqw1Y).
This kit has evolved a bit over time but the principle is still the same. The kit packed up looks like this:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids003.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids003.jpg)
...and with all the components spread out(there's an extra TTL in this photo):
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids006.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids006.jpg)
The burner(TTL)I use most often is this one:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg)
The entire set-up with six days fuel weighs 10.05 oz.
Philippe 04-25-2008, 19:07 Here's something that I thought would have come up already. Anyway, it's a Puerto Rican coffee maker. They cost about a 50 cents if you are on the island. Put in a rounded tsp or two tbls of your favorite grounds - however you like your coffee. You have to try a few times before you can get the right amount. Hold it over your cup and pour boiling water through it. It really works very well. To clean just dispose of the grounds and rinse it. Couldn't be simpler. Good DIY project.
Philippe 04-25-2008, 19:13 Here's something that I thought would have come up already. Anyway, it's a Puerto Rican coffee maker. They cost about a 50 cents if you are on the island. Put in a rounded tsp or two tbls of your favorite grounds - however you like your coffee. You have to try a few times before you can get the right amount. Hold it over your cup and pour boiling water through it. It really works very well. To clean just dispose of the grounds and rinse it. Couldn't be simpler. Good DIY project.
mkmangold 04-26-2008, 00:10 Real men drink Tea! :D
No: only Real Men trepinate their own subungual hematomas.
X-LinkedHiker 04-26-2008, 00:21 I have the JetBoil 1 Liter. It works perfectly. Can make Teas, coffees and keep it hot in it's stainless built in mug.
I gotta agree that a jetboil is a nice rig.
I am envious everytime someone sets it up and it starts hissng away, As long as you have fuel and space in your pack.
Tom
kayak karl 04-26-2008, 19:22 i use this http://www.rei.com/product/638124 works well, kind of like the tea ball idea.
d'shadow 04-27-2008, 03:04 Learn to "brew" coffee: Boil water, then add 1 rounded teaspoon of grounds per cup of water, and 1 extra "for the pot", i.e. if pot holds 4 cups, 5 spoons of coffee. After adding grounds, stir 1-2 times to prevent foaming and allow to boil for another 5 minutes (longer/shorter with practice depending on how strong you want it.) Remove from stove, let settle for 2-3 minutes then pour to cup. Coffee will be cloudier, but should not have grounds in it (mine never does, practice gets you there), but will be far more flavorful than even drip coffee.
The Weasel
ditto
I do the same thing, bring water to a boil in a pan, throw in a hand full of coffee and boil it to the strength you like. My Aunts and Grandmother used to crack in an egg to catch all the grounds, however, I do not. Coffee is always good, but, then, everything is better out in the woods.
dessertrat 04-27-2008, 11:05 Folger's Singles. It doesn't get any simpler.
Folger's Singles. It doesn't get any simpler.
Simpler isn't always better ;)
88BlueGT 04-28-2008, 19:02 I just made mine. Came out pretty nice (not that theres really anything to it lol). The only thing that I could not get to work was snapping the small bowl into the lid of the large one... for some reason mine refuses to. no biggie though, still works well.
What size hold did you drill?
Skidsteer 04-28-2008, 19:28 I just made mine. Came out pretty nice (not that theres really anything to it lol). What size hold did you drill?
I try for about 1/8", but I don't drill them. I use a butane powered soldering torch to melt a centerhole and to etch drain lines in the filter basket.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Coffee%20Maker%20for%20Trail/th_Slushfund049.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Coffee%20Maker%20for%20Trail/Slushfund049.jpg)
It helps keep the filter from vacuuming itself to the bottom and stopping up the flow altogether.
The only thing that I could not get to work was snapping the small bowl into the lid of the large one... for some reason mine refuses to. no biggie though, still works well.
That's one of those things that's easy to demonstrate but hard to explain.
The hole in the lid needs to be pretty close to 3 9/16"-3 5/8" to fit right. Cutting it exactly round with scissors is tricky at best. The last few I have done I just got a can with an O. D. of 3 1/2", set it in the center of the lid, and torched it until it melted through.
It leaves a perfect circle that, with a bit of hand sanding will fit perfectly.
88BlueGT 04-28-2008, 22:34 hm, sounds like a good idea, theres no need for it to fit inside the lid though, its just loose when you have it facing downwards and the filter in it, still very stable and everything. In the one picture, are you using the bottom of a basket?
Skidsteer 04-29-2008, 08:08 hm, sounds like a good idea, theres no need for it to fit inside the lid though, its just loose when you have it facing downwards and the filter in it, still very stable and everything. In the one picture, are you using the bottom of a basket?
Yes, my first try used the bottom of an old coffee maker basket. It was how I got around the filter sealing itself to the bottom and stopping flow because of the vacuum created. Then I figured out etching the lines with the soldering iron. Problem solved.
CBSSTony 04-30-2008, 16:54 I use coffee bags, like tea bags.
KnowledgeEngine 04-30-2008, 17:23 Google Search Results for Cold Brewed Coffee (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=cold+brewed+coffee&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
I picked this tip up from alton brown as well as another outdoors site.
What I do to brew coffee on the trail is:
Pre trail prep:
Add 1 Lb of commercial ground coffee (I use Community New Orleans Blend /w Chicory) to 8-10 cups cold water
Allow to steep for 24 hours or more
Filter extract from grounds. I do this using juice containers, and a funnell with cone coffee filters. When I get down to the grounds, I fill a filter half way, and squeeze it with my hand over the funnell.
On the trail brewing
I add 1 part extract to 2 parts hot/boiling water. That's it. No clean up. For my tastes that means 1 20 oz drink bottle makes 8 cups of 8 fl oz coffee.
I have field tested this to be good for 1 week refrigeriation plus three days outdoors. The taste testers liked it better than the "Urn of the Burn" coffee we always have at my campouts.
I know the water in the concentrate adds weight, but you cut back on trash being packed out, and coffee paraphenilia being packed in :) I use my mug to measure with so it's only one thing to carry extra---the bottle of concentrate, or as I like to call it "Coffee Juice"
mkmangold 04-30-2008, 22:04 How about using a sock to hold the grounds? And hardboiling an egg at the same time the coffee perks? Or am I getting way to multi-use here?
:-? or you could just feed the coffee to the chickens, then boil the eggs................coffee flavored hard boild eggs :D
GlazeDog 05-19-2008, 11:19 Just built my first Heineken stove system--I loved building this light system patterned quite a bit of Skidsteer's setup, but I use a chimney Pepsi can stove with hardware cloth that snaps onto top for stand.
Am drinking coffee as we speak. WOW!!! That some good sh!+. About equal to the Titanium french press I have but never carry due to the weight.
Thanks Skids!!
GlazeDog
Skidsteer 05-19-2008, 18:35 Just built my first Heineken stove system--I loved building this light system patterned quite a bit of Skidsteer's setup, but I use a chimney Pepsi can stove with hardware cloth that snaps onto top for stand.
Am drinking coffee as we speak. WOW!!! That some good sh!+. About equal to the Titanium french press I have but never carry due to the weight.
Thanks Skids!!
GlazeDog
Hey, that's great GlazeDog.
I'm happy you found the idea useful. :)
mkmangold 05-25-2008, 11:59 How about using a sock to hold the grounds? And hardboiling an egg at the same time the coffee perks? Or am I getting way to multi-use here?
Hey, I'm quoting myself! Anyway, someone else figured out that maybe this isn't such a bad idea...
Speaking of sock it to me's, Dick Martin just died :(
honkydory 06-29-2008, 10:18 Don't know who Dick Martin was but bless his sole!
Just like to tell you about my reusable "permanent" nylon mesh filter similar to the "Porto Rican" cloth filter already mentioned.
Even if the coffee do get a bit muddy it's great to be able to brew a proper cup outdoors. Mine is just a nylon mesh cone with a plastic ring at the top so it fits inside any cup, bottle or water bag. Also work great for pre-filtering water, tea, dirty gasoline etc! Packs down flat in it's own Ziploc bag and weighs just a couple of grams.
I grind my own beans at home and bring but it anyone know of a UL-grinder I could bring please let me know, thanks!
saimyoji 06-29-2008, 15:24 UL coffee grinder: two rocks.
...and with all the components spread out(there's an extra TTL in this photo):
The burner(TTL)I use most often is this one:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg)
The entire set-up with six days fuel weighs 10.05 oz.
What is a TTL burner? sorry for the newb question.
Two Speed 07-06-2008, 17:17 Not sure, but I think Skids may be out hiking; may be a coupla days before he responds.
Hikes in Rain 07-07-2008, 12:52 I have one of these. Available from Campmor, too. At one point, however, I did lose the bottom of the grinder (which houses the crank!), and had to resort to the acquired-on-the-trail UL grinder mentioned above. Can't really recommend it, though, since my use of rocks left pretty large chunks of bean intact, while punching holes in the plastic bag I was using.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/01/hand_crank_travel_coffee_grinder.php
I was real pleased to find the gottom of the grinder, complete with crank, on the floor of the spare bedroom where I staged up.
mister krabs 07-07-2008, 14:23 ttl= turbo tea light http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22524&highlight=turbo+tea-lite
Wise Old Owl 07-07-2008, 14:29 what happened to instant?????
Hikes in Rain 07-07-2008, 14:44 In my case, it went by the wayside long ago, as I was introduced into home-roasted and home ground coffee. No comparison!
Footslogger 07-07-2008, 15:04 Anyone ever tried this one ???
http://www.aerobie.com/Products/aeropress_story.htm
Haven't taken it backpacking yet but have been using it at home now for about a year and plan on taking it hiking in the future. About the most simple, fast and easy to clean coffee maker I've ever found.
'Slogger
I use the MugMate from MSR, works great!
http://www.rei.com/product/726094
kayak karl 07-07-2008, 20:17 what happened to instant?????
Yea! i even mix the creamer in before i leave:)
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