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Pest
03-09-2007, 16:27
http://mosswalks.blogspot.com/ it weighs six ounces and has a cup and a bowl.

Sly
03-09-2007, 17:14
Nice but, can you cook a meal in that? Like a Liptons and a ramen with a small can of tuna?

Skidsteer
03-09-2007, 18:47
Nice but, can you cook a meal in that? Like a Liptons and a ramen with a small can of tuna?

He cooks it in the bowl. Like Sarges lemonade jar or a freezer bag.

zelph
03-09-2007, 19:00
When your water comes to a boil, the steam may pop your lid off. I've been known to have my lid on a little loose per Skidsteer:)

Pest
03-09-2007, 20:36
I keep the lid loose when cooking.. but it's nice to be able to keep it tight for traveling.

Pest
03-09-2007, 20:39
Nice but, can you cook a meal in that? Like a Liptons and a ramen with a small can of tuna?

I don't see why not. It holds 2 cups of water and with the bubble wrap cozy you can hold it while eating out of it. You would want a long handeled spoon or chopstick though.

I'm sensitive to MSG so most ramen and instant food is off limits to me unless I want a headache that lasts for 3 days.

It's a shame cuz I love a certain type of ramen.

I put left overs from our dinners at home each night into the dehydrator and before I know it I have a good supply of trail food.

Pest
03-09-2007, 21:00
Nice but, can you cook a meal in that? Like a Liptons and a ramen with a small can of tuna?


http://mosswalks.blogspot.com/ it weighs six ounces and has a cup and a bowl.


BTW I've already switched stoves on that set.. I keep going back to my pop can stove it boiled in 6 minutes and ran for 10 with the same set up.

doggiebag
03-09-2007, 23:11
http://mosswalks.blogspot.com/ it weighs six ounces and has a cup and a bowl.
It's definitely light. I like to cook when I'm out ... saute some mushrooms with garlic, fry a trout or spam so the 10 to 13 minute cook times will not cut it. But if I had to be a spartan/masochist I'll go your route. That's the kind of gear someone running would carry IMHO. Very cool site you created though I like the layout.

zelph
03-10-2007, 00:44
It's definitely light. I like to cook when I'm out ... saute some mushrooms with garlic, fry a trout or spam so the 10 to 13 minute cook times will not cut it. But if I had to be a spartan/masochist I'll go your route. That's the kind of gear someone running would carry IMHO. Very cool site you created though I like the layout.

I like trout and spam. Anybody know the shelf life of spam?

I like the layout also of your site.

doggiebag
03-10-2007, 00:51
I like trout and spam. Anybody know the shelf life of spam?

I like the layout also of your site.

Here you go ... straight from Hormel:

"The processing techniques utilized by Hormel Foods makes then canned product safe for use indefinitely if the product seal remains intact, unbroken and securely attached to a can that has been well maintained. It is suggested that all canned products be stored in a cool and dry environment to keep the flavor adequately preserved. For maximum flavor it is recommended that the product be used within three years of the manufacturing date. After that period of time, the product is still safe to use however, the flavor gradually declines."

Sly
03-10-2007, 00:51
He cooks it in the bowl. Like Sarges lemonade jar or a freezer bag.

I think he's a she. I guess it would be good for dehydrated foods, not so good for what I usually eat.

Sly
03-10-2007, 00:56
How big is that can?

Pest
03-10-2007, 01:01
How big is that can?

It was 24 ounces but I chopped some of the top. It holds two cups of water nicely.

Pest
03-10-2007, 02:24
It's definitely light. I like to cook when I'm out ... saute some mushrooms with garlic, fry a trout or spam so the 10 to 13 minute cook times will not cut it. But if I had to be a spartan/masochist I'll go your route. That's the kind of gear someone running would carry IMHO. Very cool site you created though I like the layout.

If you ever ate my home dehydrated meals you would not feel like a Spartan :)

I won a contest with my fruit roll ups. http://www.schizoaffective.org/hiking/recipe.htm

Sly
03-10-2007, 02:41
If you ever ate my home dehydrated meals.....

Can you make me 200 of them? Please! Pretty please? :)

doggiebag
03-10-2007, 02:54
I'd try a couple wait a few hours to make sure she didn't add anything special to win the contest :cool: (Saint John's Wort ... yohimbe ... indica):sun
All in fun ... just noticed the host machine's addy.

Two Speed
03-10-2007, 07:18
Just had the Heinie style set up demonstrated by Skids & DWM on an overnight trip. Interesting concept, but how do you saute mushrooms and onions in one of those things?

OK, I'll knock off the wisecracks and it really is an interesting concept. I believe it would skim a half pound or so out of my pack, compared to the Trangia/Westwind set up I'm currently using. Gonna have to think about that.

Now, if it just had a "saute" option . . . :-?

Frolicking Dinosaurs
03-10-2007, 07:41
Two Speed brings up an interesting point - some of us saute or fry foods. I have faith that fellows like Zelph and Skids could come up with an ultralight frypan or griddle if they tried. Maybe the lid of a large coffee can?

Skidsteer
03-10-2007, 08:38
I think he's a she. I guess it would be good for dehydrated foods, not so good for what I usually eat.

Oops, my bad. Sorry Pest.

jlb2012
03-10-2007, 09:02
Pest wrt the pot support I am using the same style hardware cloth pot support with a Heineken can pot (3 high instead of 4 high like yours and no flared out bottom wires) - so far it has lasted me a long time - I can't remember how long now but its at least 3 years and maybe 4 years - so anyways the hardware cloth pot supports will last a long time - no problems

Skidsteer
03-10-2007, 09:56
Just had the Heinie style set up demonstrated by Skids & DWM on an overnight trip. Interesting concept, but how do you saute mushrooms and onions in one of those things?

OK, I'll knock off the wisecracks and it really is an interesting concept. I believe it would skim a half pound or so out of my pack, compared to the Trangia/Westwind set up I'm currently using. Gonna have to think about that.

Now, if it just had a "saute" option . . . :-?


Two Speed brings up an interesting point - some of us saute or fry foods. I have faith that fellows like Zelph and Skids could come up with an ultralight frypan or griddle if they tried. Maybe the lid of a large coffee can?

Incorporating the lid as a frypan is the obvious solution for a solo kit. The problem is how to hold on to it or keep it stable while sauteeing. The small diameter required to make it useful as a lid for the Heinie pot means your fingers would be pretty close to the flames of the stove.

I bet we can come up with something, though...

Dances with Mice
03-10-2007, 11:52
I saw someone add fresh mushrooms to the cookpot water, brought it to a boil, then poured it into a freezer bag with a Liptons Stroganov flavored noodle mix. Not truly sauteed but worked pretty well. I imagine it'd work with diced onions too.

Pest
03-10-2007, 12:41
I saw someone add fresh mushrooms to the cookpot water, brought it to a boil, then poured it into a freezer bag with a Liptons Stroganov flavored noodle mix. Not truly sauteed but worked pretty well. I imagine it'd work with diced onions too.


Yeah I dump fresh mushrooms into my boiling water when I find them. But to be able to fry them in butter would be better. My Heineken lid would make a good little solo fry pan if it had a handle of some sort.

You can fry stuff in the bottom of a grease pot of course.

grysmn
03-10-2007, 14:11
This thread sort of makes me hungry. How does your stove do Piazza?

dla
03-10-2007, 17:48
IHDB - btt

zelph
03-10-2007, 19:22
Two Speed brings up an interesting point - some of us saute or fry foods. I have faith that fellows like Zelph and Skids could come up with an ultralight frypan or griddle if they tried. Maybe the lid of a large coffee can?

Recently had the opportunity to poach eggs on the trail:) so it was fresh in my mind, the little wire handle on the poach pan, see photo.

Did a quick gathering of stuff. Came up with this idea how to. Using the bottom of a cat food can I started to roll over the edge with a pair of needle nose pliars(see photo) then formed a piece of stainless wire around the base of the Heineken pot and gave it a twist and then formed a loop around my finger and gave it a twist. That gives you an idea how to make a handle for your little simmer pan. I ran out of time to finish the handle, but I know it will work. I've rolled edges on steel cans this way. Do a tiny bit at a time, take it slow.!!!!!

Photo one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/kmartgrspot013.jpg)

Photo two (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/kmartgrspot014.jpg)

Photo three (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/kmartgrspot015.jpg)

Photo four (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/kmartgrspot016.jpg)

Photo five (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/kmartgrspot017.jpg)

Hope this helps, got to run.

Skidsteer
03-10-2007, 20:05
Recently had the opportunity to poach eggs on the trail:) so it was fresh in my mind, the little wire handle on the poach pan, see photo.

Did a quick gathering of stuff. Came up with this idea how to. Using the bottom of a cat food can I started to roll over the edge with a pair of needle nose pliars(see photo) then formed a piece of stainless wire around the base of the Heineken pot and gave it a twist and then formed a loop around my finger and gave it a twist. That gives you an idea how to make a handle for your little simmer pan. I ran out of time to finish the handle, but I know it will work. I've rolled edges on steel cans this way. Do a tiny bit at a time, take it slow.!!!!!

You know what we really need, Zelph? Spot welders. :D

OK, here's my rough draft submission for chopped Heineken pots:

Photo one (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15538&c=516)

Photo two (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15537&c=516)

Photo three (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15536&c=516)

It's a cut down cup from a Coleman mess kit, a binder clip, and bent piece of aluminum.

Two Speed
03-10-2007, 20:29
Skids, that ain't bad, but that binder clip is gonna get plenty nasty pretty quick. I don't saute onions & such that often, so that may or may not be an issue.

I checked my gear and found something that would pass, the lid off my Snow Peak Ti set (http://www.snowpeak.com/gears/stw001t.htm). I'll have to give that a shot the next time I get out for an overnighter.

(Yes, I do have almost enough crap to start my own Boy Scout troop. Gonna have to hold a gear sale SOON!)

Skidsteer
03-10-2007, 20:39
Skids, that ain't bad, but that binder clip is gonna get plenty nasty pretty quick. I don't saute onions & such that often, so that may or may not be an issue.

I checked my gear and found something that would pass, the lid off my Snow Peak Ti set (http://www.snowpeak.com/gears/stw001t.htm). I'll have to give that a shot the next time I get out for an overnighter.

(Yes, I do have almost enough crap to start my own Boy Scout troop. Gonna have to hold a gear sale SOON!)

Yeah, it's a rough draft. But if you combine Zelph's idea with mine, you could roll a lip in the pan and leave a piece of the wire exposed(and just the right size to accept the handle)to hook. Might even be able to rig it to work with a tent stake....

Pest
03-10-2007, 21:50
Recently had the opportunity to poach eggs on the trail:) so it was fresh in my mind, the little wire handle on the poach pan, see photo.




Awesome idea but does one really want to fry on that plastic stuff that coats a cat food can?

zelph
03-11-2007, 01:30
Yeah I dump fresh mushrooms into my boiling water when I find them. But to be able to fry them in butter would be better. My Heineken lid would make a good little solo fry pan if it had a handle of some sort.
You can fry stuff in the bottom of a grease pot of course.

Here is the photo you provided showing the lid made out of a cat (http://bp1.blogger.com/_n-H9SSVlHFs/RfG8NWlFTTI/AAAAAAAAAPM/PhcJj9o2Tw4/s320/readytodrink.jpg)food can and also the statement that goes with it:
The pot lid is made out of the bottom of a large catfood can. I used J.B. weld to attach the handle to it. This lid
Based on the information you gave, I made the suggestion to use the wire to make the handle and added some photos. Now you ask the question, Does one really want to fryon that plastic stuff that coats a cat food can?

pest---
Awesome idea but does one really want to fry on that plastic stuff that coats a cat food can?

Help me out here pest, what did I miss? Are you saying now that your lid may not be a good little frying pan now that it has a handle and is coated with plastic?

Skids, I agree, we need spot welders and more supplies

Pest
03-11-2007, 03:06
pest---

Help me out here pest, what did I miss? Are you saying now that your lid may not be a good little frying pan now that it has a handle and is coated with plastic?

Skids, I agree, we need spot welders and more supplies

The handle looks great. But I do worry about frying on the plastic coating that is inside all drink cans (since I remembered it is there). Boiling water in it is ok but when you fry in the can the plastic stuff will burn. Maybe once it is all burned off it is ok for cooking in.

When I first test a cyclone stove I run it outside so all the plastic crud can burn off.

Grinder
03-12-2007, 23:11
the heineken pot it 24 oz. is that the one you're asking about?

Tom

Pest
03-13-2007, 20:50
The handle looks great. But I do worry about frying on the plastic coating that is inside all drink cans (since I remembered it is there). Boiling water in it is ok but when you fry in the can the plastic stuff will burn. Maybe once it is all burned off it is ok for cooking in.

When I first test a cyclone stove I run it outside so all the plastic crud can burn off.


maybe there is not a plastic coating inside Heineken cans.

Skidsteer
03-13-2007, 20:59
maybe there is not a plastic coating inside Heineken cans.

There is a coating but I feel fine[hack, cough, wheeze].

DrewNC2005
03-13-2007, 21:02
How do you guys get your heineken pots so shiny after taking the labels off? I used a Dremel to sand mine off and it's a little rough.

Skidsteer
03-13-2007, 21:13
How do you guys get your heineken pots so shiny after taking the labels off? I used a Dremel to sand mine off and it's a little rough.

I use one of those sponges with sandpaper (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11544447/Sponge_Sanding_Block.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11544447/Sponge_Sanding_Block.html&h=219&w=297&sz=48&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=0IvHCFmw3hWTJM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsponge%2Bsanding%2Bblocks%26gbv%3D2%2 6svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den)on it. Takes a couple minutes to do it right.

zelph
03-13-2007, 23:34
I like the color and the graphic. When you take it off it looks just like any other drab al pot.

Saint Pattys' day is comming up, let it be green.

Pest
03-14-2007, 00:37
How do you guys get your heineken pots so shiny after taking the labels off? I used a Dremel to sand mine off and it's a little rough.


I used a steel wool pad on one and it's really shiny.