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Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-15-2007, 12:56
Other hikers, Model T and One-Leg come immediately to mind, have brought far more publicity to the AT than GatorGump ever will -- and both managed to do it without mooning the world (not sure if they mooned the COG or not :D)

As Austex notes, not all publicity is good for the AT.

Wanderingson
04-15-2007, 13:00
HYOH. Psyching out a fellow hiker is bad form. GatorGump’s humor is bringing more attention to AT hiking than we’ve had in a long time. The Prunella Prunepits of hiking can do their own sterile hike, but make room for people like GatorGump who aren’t marching in lock step.

To GatorGump: :welcome


Great first post my friend. Where ya been hiding out, Sweetberries?

dixicritter
04-15-2007, 13:01
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a long standing tradition of "mooning the cog" that some folks just hoop and hollar about and find absolutely hillarious? :-?

I think folks are getting all worked up over a real non-issue here. What this guy has done won't be getting any "services closed" because he's done it in the middle of nowhere not in the middle of a business establishment. Chill out people. If you don't want to see his butt don't go look at his journal.

Lone Wolf
04-15-2007, 13:01
GatorGump’s humor is bringing more attention to AT hiking than we’ve had in a long time.

Oh sure. An absolute friggin genius of a comedian.:rolleyes:

Heater
04-15-2007, 13:05
Great first post my friend. Where ya been hiding out, Sweetberries?

Dingleberrys.

terrapin_too
04-15-2007, 13:09
I think folks are getting all worked up over a real non-issue here. What this guy has done won't be getting any "services closed" because he's done it in the middle of nowhere not in the middle of a business establishment.

He put his butt right up against the famous AT plaque at Springer. I'll bet every thru-hiker (or wannabe) has a photo of that plaque. Mooning the cog railway is one thing. But what this guy did on the plaque is just plain crass.

Heater
04-15-2007, 13:11
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a long standing tradition of "mooning the cog" that some folks just hoop and hollar about and find absolutely hillarious? :-?


Big difference between "bareassing" the plaque and mooning the pollution spewing eyesore that is the cog.



I think folks are getting all worked up over a real non-issue here. What this guy has done won't be getting any "services closed" because he's done it in the middle of nowhere not in the middle of a business establishment. Chill out people. If you don't want to see his butt don't go look at his journal.

I think if all had remained silent he would be pulling this stuff in town. Maybe he IS... I don't know. I wouldn't put it past him, though.

STEVEM
04-15-2007, 13:11
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a long standing tradition of "mooning the cog" that some folks just hoop and hollar about and find absolutely hillarious? :-?

I think folks are getting all worked up over a real non-issue here. What this guy has done won't be getting any "services closed" because he's done it in the middle of nowhere not in the middle of a business establishment. Chill out people. If you don't want to see his butt don't go look at his journal.

I bet the folks at the Damascus Public Library keep a close eye on Gatorgump, especially now that they've got that brand new chair.

Topcat
04-15-2007, 13:15
People really need to relax. What about Haiku's "censored" handstand in his kilt on the Katahdin sign, or all the naked hiking day pic's, mooning the cog. Does some of it come down to who is doing the nudity?

Lone Wolf
04-15-2007, 13:18
He put his butt right up against the famous AT plaque at Springer.

2nd most famous. The one in the rock next to the first white blaze has been there longer.

Lone Wolf
04-15-2007, 13:20
I bet the folks at the Damascus Public Library keep a close eye on Gatorgump, especially now that they've got that brand new chair.

those chairs are nasty anyway from hikers coming right off the trail to use the computers before showering and doing laundry.

ShakeyLeggs
04-15-2007, 13:30
People really need to relax. What about Haiku's "censored" handstand in his kilt on the Katahdin sign, or all the naked hiking day pic's, mooning the cog. Does some of it come down to who is doing the nudity?
This hopefully will be my last post on the subject.

Don't know about the Haiku incident never heard about it. As for naked hiking day and mooning the cog they are different as they are tradition. If he would have participated in either of them I am pretty sure we would have said way to go guy. But he placed his bare behind on the Springer Plaque and was telling people there that it was a tradition when in fact it is not. Well plopping his bare behind on the plaque to me is reprehensible but blatantly lieing and telling people that is tradition puts it way over the top for me and it needed dealt with and it was by this discussion and in his journal and also having the offending picture removed from his journal as well. I'm out. I have said me piece and I'm done.

Topcat
04-15-2007, 13:49
no incident just a funny picture of a handstand in a kilt...

somthing that made me laugh out loud as i followed his journal.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-15-2007, 14:01
Hiaku's cencored photo -- http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=58865 (http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=58865&back=1)

Hiaku's photo is in no way disrspectful of the trail or trail traditions. If he bare-bumming the sign on Big K, I'd be having some words with the young gent.

Topcat
04-15-2007, 14:13
agreed fd....the problem is that everyone has their own sensibilities about stuff like that. Look back at some of the threads about the cog. It doesnt really bother me what this guy did. I have lots of other more painfull and important issues to worry about in my own life. No more posting on this issue for me.

dixicritter
04-15-2007, 15:20
Anyone ever stop to think that maybe Gatorgump was TOLD that it was a tradition? I mean not everyone knows every tradition out there do they? I sure don't.

SGT Rock
04-15-2007, 15:52
Hey, how about some perspective...

It is a metal sign.

ShakeyLeggs
04-15-2007, 16:00
Hey, how about some perspective...

It is a metal sign.
Ok perspective

I'm a lowly E-1 I walk into your office Top drop my drawers and plop my bare rump on your desk. And in the process I tell everyone within ear shot it is tradition.

It is just a desk.

Now your going to say that is not showing respect. I totally agree. He showed no respect for the trail plaque.

And on a better note WELCOME HOME TOP!!! I was so happy to hear you made it home safe and sound. Hope to meet you someday and shake your hand and thank you in person for serving.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-15-2007, 16:03
A US flag is a few small pieces of cloth, but what it stands for is important enough that we handle it with care and salute it when it passes. A wooden cross is a couple of pieces of lumber, but it symbolizes much more to those of the Christain faith. The Veitnam Memorial is just a piece of rock, but it symbolizes so much more that people regularly bring flowers, poems and other tributes to the site.

Yes, Rock, it is a metal sign, but it symbolizes much more.

SGT Rock
04-15-2007, 16:04
Drama. LOL, seems we are the United States of the Offended around here.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-15-2007, 16:09
::: Drama Queen dino whacks SgtRock with her tail :::

SGT Rock
04-15-2007, 16:11
:datz Ouch. ;)

ShakeyLeggs
04-15-2007, 16:14
IMHO this has gone from a point of contention with me to a non issue. Since he is aware he offended allot of people. Made his apology and removed the picture from his journal it is now a non issue with me. I accept his apology and wish him a great hike. I do continue to read his journal and enjoy his zany antics.

I do admit and still find what he did offensive but like I said reparations have been made. I do hold the plaque at Springer and many other things about and on the trail a sacred. More than a few have given allot to make the trail happen and continue as we know it (myself included) so any disrespect gets under my skin. As I am sure if someone disrespected what you hold dear that would get under your skin as well.
I've said more than I intended on the subject and will hold my tongue from now on on the subject.

HickHiker
04-15-2007, 16:37
I agree with this message on GatorGump’s guest book:
"Your irreverent humor is good for what ails the hiking community, which has gotten a little stuffy and mine-all-mine-ish."

BTW, one of you is mentioned. Bear bait? :confused:

http://www.trailjournals.com/gatorgump/

Lone Wolf
04-15-2007, 19:25
Ok perspective

I'm a lowly E-1 I walk into your office Top drop my drawers and plop my bare rump on your desk. And in the process I tell everyone within ear shot it is tradition.

It is just a desk

yup. just a desk. this is the dumbest f ckn analogy yet.:rolleyes:

terrapin_too
04-15-2007, 19:41
yup. just a desk. this is the dumbest f ckn analogy yet.:rolleyes:


Actually, I thought it was a good analogy. Maybe it doesn't work for you 'cause you've never worked at a desk?

Smile
04-15-2007, 20:27
Dows this mean SOBO'ers won't be kissing the plaque this year?

Lone Wolf
04-15-2007, 20:30
Dows this mean SOBO'ers won't be kissing the plaque this year?

SOBOs ain't so star struck. they don't think about plaques and signs for 6 months and getting their picture taken at one:rolleyes:

Smile
04-15-2007, 20:35
Oh yeah... ;)

EWS
04-15-2007, 22:21
Oh god, here we go again. Whine your engines up.

Heater
04-15-2007, 23:23
Oh yeah... ;)

Is that Steven Tyler in your Avatar? :D

HickHiker
04-16-2007, 09:03
ShakeyLeggs et al have been stealing Gatorgump’s thunder everywhere they can find a place to do so – the TV station blog that’s following his progress, his trail journal guest book & here. Observers are calling them out this way: "These humorless, churlish posters are lesson #1 in overcoming the psychological hurdles of long-distance hiking."

This excerpt from ShakeyLeggs' own trail journal indicates he ought to be out looking for a job instead of stalking an earnest hiker:
"Remember when I told you all about the difficulty I had with my last employer lieing to the state about me quiting and I had to defend myself? Well today is the day I have to file my biweekly claim for unemployment." [Shakey Leggs journal 4/15/2007] :cool:

Smile
04-16-2007, 10:06
:)
Nice blackberries huh?

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-16-2007, 11:27
Hickhiker, there is no glory in baring your bum on the Net. Several of us have praised GG for hiking after having serious health problems in both his TJ and the TV station blog. I personally would do whatever I can to help GG make it to the big K because even though he has behaved badly, he is part of our hiking family and we take care of our own. However, being part of the hiking family also means getting called out when other hikers feel your behavior is disrespectful toward the trail or endangers the reputation of the hiking community.

GatorGump putting his bare bum on the plaque at Springer mountain is akin to burning a flag or spitting on a cross to some members of the AT hiking community. It isn't cute; it isn't funny; it is as disrespectful as if he had placed his bare bum against the Vietnam Memorial, the 9/11 Memorial or the Statue of Liberty. I for one am glad Leif and ZipDrive (owners of Trail Journals) told him to remove the bare-bum photos from their site. I doubt the TV station would have allowed those to be posted on their site.

You seem to have a feeling that GG is being singled out for this treatment. Here is a link to another thread discussing unacceptable behavior on the part of a hiker and how the community dealt with it (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23520). He is also being treated normally at TrailJournals. Note Hiaku had to add the censored blackout over his lower torso to post his handstand in his kilt next to the Big K sign.

If GG feels it is so necessary for the world to see his bum, he needs to get his own website and post all the pics he wants. When he is posting on someone else's site, he needs to adhere to the rules and conventions on that site. Here is a link to the rules at TrailJournals (http://www.trailjournals.com/rules.cfm) and here is one of the rules:
2. Immediate termination will occur if your site contains or links to any of the following: nudity, sex, pornography, foul language, hate propaganda, anything illegal, mail fraud or pyramid schemes. This includes anything considered adult material. (Emphasis added by this writer)

Note Leif and ZipDrive did not terminate his account, but just told him to remove the pics. If he decides to post more bare bum pics, I would have to support Lief and ZipDrive in telling him to blog elsewhere.

HickHiker
04-16-2007, 12:21
How great thou art, F’ing Dino! Your ham-handed lessons on moral superiority are all over the ‘Net. Take a hike, gal. :D
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Overdeveloped superego on the loose:

Frolicking Dinosaurs 4/6/2007 / Gatorgump’s Tampa Bay t.v. forum:
"The journals are viewed by children. Also, putting your bare rump on the plaque at the southern terminus is not a tradition - the tradition is to kiss the plaque. Some of the hikers that were on Springer Mountain when you did that were startled /offended and many members of the hiking community feel the action was offensive. The bare-rump photo demonstrating how to defecate into a cat-hole was also offensive to many hikers. Neither photo belongs on a site viewed by children."

Frolicking Dinosaurs 4/17/2007 / Gatorgump’s guest book:
All the really nasty ones were deleted (hooray for great editing!) but one remains. "This resource is used by children writing reports about the AT and young future thru-hikers."

Frolicking Dinosaurs on WhiteBlaze:
Too many to count.

SteveJ
04-16-2007, 13:05
Your ham-handed lessons on moral superiority are all over the ‘Net.
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and YOU have no credibility here - you are obviously one who joined this website in an attempt to defend GG's lack of maturity and respect for the trail. Your first 4 posts are certainly not an attempt to become a part of the WB community - but have clearly defined who you are here, and why you have "joined" this website. It is you who should "take a hike".....

We here usually put the welcome sign out to new members....:welcome

I'm frankly not sure it's warranted in your case, given your behavior so far.....

Heater
04-16-2007, 13:05
How great thou art, F’ing Dino! Your ham-handed lessons on moral superiority are all over the ‘Net. Take a hike, gal. :D
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Overdeveloped superego on the loose:

Frolicking Dinosaurs 4/6/2007 / Gatorgump’s Tampa Bay t.v. forum:
"The journals are viewed by children. Also, putting your bare rump on the plaque at the southern terminus is not a tradition - the tradition is to kiss the plaque. Some of the hikers that were on Springer Mountain when you did that were startled /offended and many members of the hiking community feel the action was offensive. The bare-rump photo demonstrating how to defecate into a cat-hole was also offensive to many hikers. Neither photo belongs on a site viewed by children."

Frolicking Dinosaurs 4/17/2007 / Gatorgump’s guest book:
All the really nasty ones were deleted (hooray for great editing!) but one remains. "This resource is used by children writing reports about the AT and young future thru-hikers."

Frolicking Dinosaurs on WhiteBlaze:
Too many to count.

Go Screw yourself, Hickhiker from manatee fla. :mad:

jesse
04-16-2007, 13:47
Hickhiker,
You are way out of line. No need to get personal and ugly.

HickHiker
04-16-2007, 14:17
Sounds like you don’t want new blood in the gene pool. And worse yet, your shame-on-you proselytizing must be contagious, because in reply to Austxs nasty message to "Go screw yourself," I’m feeling an overwhelming urge to quote Frolicking Dinosaur:

"This resource is used by children writing reports about the AT and young future thru-hikers." :rolleyes:

Hanging out my own welcome sign for me... :welcome

hammock engineer
04-16-2007, 16:01
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Not cool at all.

Having met and talked to Dino, I'll have to say your opinions and comments couldn't be farther off.

If you do not have anything helpful to say or to positively contribute to WB, maybe you should take your ball and play somewhere else. Certain things this site can do without.

Heater
04-16-2007, 16:30
Sounds like you don’t want new blood in the gene pool. And worse yet, your shame-on-you proselytizing must be contagious, because in reply to Austxs nasty message to "Go screw yourself," I’m feeling an overwhelming urge to quote Frolicking Dinosaur:

"This resource is used by children writing reports about the AT and young future thru-hikers." :rolleyes:

Hanging out my own welcome sign for me... :welcome

Probably should restrict your gene poll to it's one branch, nitwit. :rolleyes:

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-16-2007, 16:40
HickHiker, I did not post any nasty messages at all. Too many to count - a grand total of three - one deleted that was essentially the same as the longer from the Tampa TV site.

I simply pointed out that GatorGump's activities do not have the approval of most serious hikers and requested he remove the bare-bum pics because they are inappropriate for younger viewers. I'm a mother, a grandmother and a great-grandmother - children are very important to me.

Thanks to fellow members for the defense of my reputation while I was at the doctor's office.

Hickhiker, I have been off the trail for a while. Perhaps you should check on reasons some of us might not be hiking as much these days (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14995). We are planning to try a hike with packs later on this month.

SGT Rock
04-16-2007, 16:47
Y'all play nice. This thread is about done with it's usefulness.