Gatorgump bares all

[Fannypack]

Gatorgump bares all (http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?ID=171286) near Dicks Creek Gap

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Well, if anyone was wondering how I go potty in the woods without being able to squat, wonder no more. Seems this not-at-all-shy thru has demonstrated the technique.

Are we gonna be seeing pics of this guy's arse all year?

[emerald]

No doubt hikers and non-hikers around the world will benefit from this act of public service. A.T. hikers contribute to the betterment of our beautiful planet one step and one cat hole at a time. We are truly blessed to count this gentleman as one of our own!:rolleyes:

[briarpatch]

Sorta gives a whole meaning to being a tree-hugger, doesn't it?

[Trillium]

Are we gonna be seeing pics of this guy's arse all year?
apparently. I don't know if it's tradition to kiss the starting plaque but you definitely want to anticepticize it if you do from here on out!
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=206558&back=1

[terrapin_too]

apparently. I don't know if it's tradition to kiss the starting plaque but you definitely want to anticepticize it if you do from here on out!
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=206558&back=1


Wow. When it comes to dissing the trail, this guy makes Bryson look like a piker. :D

[freefall]

I thought the "Captain Morgan" stance was the common place?

[1Pint]

I thought the "Captain Morgan" stance was the common place?

Not when your behind is planted on the Springer plaque, it's not.

I'd like to know where this guy heard it was tradition. The only common body part I've seen hitting that plaque is people's lips and I seriously doubt those two traditions coexist!

(yeah, I'm still ticked that his bare butt is going to prevent me from starting off kissing the plaque. :mad: I don't care what you say, even if it rains every day and even if I take a gallon of purell with me, there is no way now that I'm kissing that plaque in 7 days.)

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

A day of sunshine will take care of anything (except the 'eeewwww' you will utter everytime you think about it) the butt may have imparted to the plaque. UV rays are a powerful disinfectant.

[Lilred]

Is he crapping on the trail??? Not cool dude. Hope that was just a photo op. Ass on the plaque?? have you no respect??

[terrapin_too]

Ass on the plaque?? have you no respect??

Agree. I'm not a prude, but that's just crass. No thanks to Murphy Green for providing the link. Shame on me for cliking it. It'll take some effort to erase this image from my memory.

[buckowens]

I am with Terrapin-too on this one...

[Rain Man]

Are we gonna be seeing pics of this guy's arse all year?

I assume only if you go looking for it? ;)

Rain:sunMan

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[Outlaw]

I just hope this isn't a case of "monkey see, monkey dodo." :eek: Woops, I meant "monkey do."

Sorry, I just couldn't resist trying to impart some levity to all this unpleasantry.:D

[john gault]

I'm new to the AT community; shortly after getting online last year, I read stories about guys pissing from shelters. Now in my second year participating in AT trail forums, I see a picture of this A$$.

Is this normal? Does something like this happen every year?

[Heater]

I'm new to the AT community; shortly after getting online last year, I read stories about guys pissing from shelters. Now in my second year participating in AT trail forums, I see a picture of this A$$.

Is this normal? Does something like this happen every year?

Pretty much... Yeah.

I looked at his guest book on trail journals and did not see the kind of comments the shelter pisser got last year. Maybe they were deleted already, I don't know.

[rjridgely]

I've seen them everywhere and i have forever tried to avoid them but from shenandoah to the top of the Whites, the idiots are everywhere...just not the majority, thank goodness

[Wanderingson]

Any takers on seeing if this clown makes it to the Big K without a major incident? This guy is a freaking work of art.

Here is a quote from his first day on the trail. " begin my journey today in honor of my grandmother and mother, both of whom cried when i left."

Dude your mother and grandmother were crying because you put your nasty A$$ on the plaque.

21 Days tops and this dude will most likely be back in Momma's arms.

By the way--please feel free to sign his guest book.

[The Scribe]

apparently. I don't know if it's tradition to kiss the starting plaque but you definitely want to anticepticize it if you do from here on out!
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=206558&back=1

YUCK!! :p

[FanaticFringer]

Sorta gives a whole meaning to being a tree-hugger, doesn't it?


Yall sure he aint humpin that there tree?:D

[ms doolittle]

Yall sure he aint humpin that there tree?:D
Poor tree! :rolleyes:

[ShakeyLeggs]

I see they are deleting any guestbook entries that are against his antics.

He is a also putting down anyone who talks about gear. Here is a quote from yesterdays entry in his journal by him;

"Speaking of heavy packs, while on the trail you will hear a lot of talk about how to lighten your gear and about gear in general. It is enough to make you nauseous. The trail abounds with gear-heads"

Man this guy is a hoot. i will post exerps from his journal so that we may discuss his infinite wisdom of subjects relating to the Appalachian Trail.

"It is not uncommon for an unwary thru hiker to leave a shelter with mice in his pack only to find all his food contaminated by the time he reaches his next stop.
It is for this reason many hikers will bring along mouse traps and kill 10 to 20 mice before bedtime.
One game hikers like to play is the "toss the mouse" game. Set a small amount of food on your sleeping bag (yes with you in it) and at just the right time slap your hands against the inside of the bag. I think the record is twenty feet.
I have invented my own mouse game. I call it the "put food inside and all around Barking Spiders sleeping bag while he is asleep" game."

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Just saw shakeyleggs mention of deleting guestbook entries. Guess we'll see how long mine last :D

[Tin Man]

Outrageous. Special trail magic needed for this idiot. Maybe some exclative cookies are called for. Oops, that might only encourage him. Dang!

[ShakeyLeggs]

I just read the article and watched the vid that his hometown tv news did on him. While I don't condone his antics I do have to give him alot of respect. He is a diabetic and had a major heart attack and is doing the trail against his family and doctors advice. He is doing what he loves to do. he is living life.

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?s=search&storyid=51365

[Wanderingson]

So will this become the 2007 MS thread?

[ShakeyLeggs]

Looks like it. Someone named real hiker directed his guestbook audience here.

[jesse]

Anybody read his March 25 entry, "how Suches got its name". A real comedian this gator-rump.

[Spork]

He is doing what he loves to do. he is living life.


Well, so far it seems like what he "loves to do" is to publicly exhibit his a$$. At the risk of sounding prudish, perhaps he could try "living life" without feeling compelled to rub his stinky butt all over it...

[Nearly Normal]

:eek:
After viewing the photo on Springer I do believe a more representitive trail name is warrented.
"Skid-Mark" seems appropriate.
Pete

[oldfivetango]

Yeah,I second the name change to Skid-Mark,goodone.
Can't help but wonder what he may be doing elsewhere
on the trail to show his disrespect for everyone else-
use your imagination.
Oldfivetango

[cannonball]

Rest assured all, what goes around comes around. I must say that this low rent behavior is typical of most, not all but most, gator fans I have ever encountered.

[mudhead]

I assume you are speaking as an Auburn fan.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Big Orange here. The gators behave much better than this in our area - except they keep eating Smokey the hound....

[ShakeyLeggs]

Well folks he updated his journal today. And guess what.... He deleted most of the negative guestbook entries. I guess he just can't take it. Also looks like he had a bit of a tough time the other night. And Frolicking Dino's yours is one that got dumped as well.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Several folks have suggested I photoshop SkidMark's shiny white hinney.... perhaps I will. Any suggestions?

[ShakeyLeggs]

You are the guru I will leave that in your capable hands hehe

[StarLyte]

Several folks have suggested I photoshop SkidMark's shiny white hinney.... perhaps I will. Any suggestions?

Yes.....make him a BIGGER A$$

:banana

[jlb2012]

FD - how about a bob cat or raccoon attacking said hinney or a porcupine right under him

some things _not_ to do - don't have anything ahh dangling from said rump

[D'Artagnan]

FD - how about a bob cat or raccoon attacking said hinney or a porcupine right under him

some things _not_ to do - don't have anything ahh dangling from said rump


Doesn't appear to be anything dangling anyway. Must be COLD out there. :eek:

[Outlaw]

It appears Mr. Gatorgump (a/k/a "Skidmarks") may have seen "the light":


"Now on a more serious note, i want to thank all of you who have sent supporting comments on my guestbook. My wife immediately deletes the negative ones so i dont get to read those but she did tell me that a few of you have expressed concern that i don't respect the trail. Nothing could be further from the truth, i totally abide by the "leave no trace policy" and now that i am out here i have a great respect for any man, woman, or child who has done this. At this early point i dont know if i can go all the way but if i do it will be my quirky sense of humor that will get me through the lonliness. i appologize if i have offended anyone. -gatorgump"

from his 4/3/07 TJ entry (Bold emphasis added).

[cannonball]

Seems very superficial to me. How does following LNT connect with putting your bare ass on the springer plaque? My guess is his wife got on him and made him put out some half hearted attempt at an apology.

[Alligator]

Well there is a sort of brown area regarding Leave Only Assprints.

[Alligator]

For instance, you are skinny dipping in a stream (not a water source) and you climb out and sit down to dry. Should you fill in your assprint on the streambank?

[Alligator]

Or, you're sitting on the edge of the shelter, changing out of wet clothes. Should you let your buttprint dry on its own?

[ShakeyLeggs]

It appears Mr. Gatorgump (a/k/a "Skidmarks") may have seen "the light":


"Now on a more serious note, i want to thank all of you who have sent supporting comments on my guestbook. My wife immediately deletes the negative ones so i dont get to read those but she did tell me that a few of you have expressed concern that i don't respect the trail. Nothing could be further from the truth, i totally abide by the "leave no trace policy" and now that i am out here i have a great respect for any man, woman, or child who has done this. At this early point i dont know if i can go all the way but if i do it will be my quirky sense of humor that will get me through the lonliness. i appologize if i have offended anyone. -gatorgump"

from his 4/3/07 TJ entry (Bold emphasis added).

Well his old trailname was Gatorgump so I am thinking he cryin gator tears here. Actions speak louder than words and his actions are reprehensible. We will see but I am not expecting a change in his behavior.

[Alligator]

Granted, bare or clothed, one's ass should not be connected to the Springer plaque.

[D'Artagnan]

Granted, bare or clothed, one's ass should not be connected to the Springer plaque.


Suddenly, I'm getting images in my mind of a tongue on a flagpole (A Christmas Story) and a dog on a porch (Joe Dirt). Neither are pretty pictures. I guess the Springer plaque wasn't that cold.

[Alligator]

Suddenly, I'm getting images in my mind of a tongue on a flagpole (A Christmas Story) and a dog on a porch (Joe Dirt). Neither are pretty pictures. I guess the Springer plaque wasn't that cold.Neither is his so I won't link it, but that was precisely his reasoning.

Here, there is a time honored tradition which I keep. It is customary, in order to test the weather conditions, that each long distance hiker bare-ass the metal, rock embedded plaque which marks the southern terminus. If you pull away cleanly then it is warm enough for you to continue.

[Outlaw]

Granted, bare or clothed, one's ass should not be connected to the Springer plaque.

... especially since, like the Blarney Stone, so many place their lips on it!:eek:

Perhaps someone can suggest some form of a penance for Gatorgump to demonstrate that he is truly repented and that will make everyone feel better about his ASSinine (mispelling intended) faux pas.

[Alligator]

... especially since, like the Blarney Stone, so many place their lips on it!:eek:

Perhaps someone can suggest some form of a penance for Gatorgump to demonstrate that he is truly repented and that will make everyone feel better about his ASSinine (mispelling intended) faux pas.I left him a note and suggested he go back and wash the plaque:eek: .

[Outlaw]

I left him a note and suggested he go back and wash the plaque:eek: .

What specifically should he use to wash the plaque with? If you leave it up to him, he hopefully won't think to drop his draws once again and just use his own pee! :datz

[1Pint]

I left him a note and suggested he go back and wash the plaque:eek: .

I left a note in his TJ too. Waiting to see how long it takes before it's deleted by Dump of Gator or his wife. (Should I start a WB poll for his new trail name? 1 = SkidMark 2 = GatorRump 3 = GatorDump 4 = Dump of Gator....)

I'm surprised they haven't at least removed the Springer picture of his bare butt hitting the plaque.

[Alligator]

What specifically should he use to wash the plaque with? If you leave it up to him, he hopefully won't think to drop his draws once again and just use his own pee! :datzYou mean he'd sign his name when he was done do ya;) ?

I guess it would depend on the metal the plaque is made of:-? . Soap, some kind of disinfectant, and he should leave a bucket of oral dams for the masses.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I left him a note and suggested he go back and wash the plaque:eek: .
Your note will most likely be deleted.

[max patch]

My very polite - but critical - note lasted a couple hours.

His wife has a new full time job!

[1Pint]

My very polite - but critical - note lasted a couple hours.
His wife has a new full time job!

Mine is also polite but critical. It's made it for over 24 hours. Maybe it's just 'cause he doesn't know the word "desecrate" is not a good thing.

Laura

[cannonball]

Quick, some body place guards around the sign on top of mt. K. Oh, never mind, it takes character to get that far.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I left a note in his TJ too. Waiting to see how long it takes before it's deleted by Dump of Gator or his wife. (Should I start a WB poll for his new trail name? 1 = SkidMark 2 = GatorRump 3 = GatorDump 4 = Dump of Gator....)

I'm surprised they haven't at least removed the Springer picture of his bare butt hitting the plaque.

I vote for him; SkidMark, His Wife; Dump of Gator


Mine is also polite but critical. It's made it for over 24 hours. Maybe it's just 'cause he doesn't know the word "desecrate" is not a good thing.

Laura

Mine din't make it past the Dump of Gator censor. All I did was let him know we are calling him by his new trail name SkidMark


On a side note if he is reading these or his wife is I bet they will dread it when they see a Whiteblaze T-shirt comming down the trail and he is greeted with a resounding Hi there SkidMark

[troglobil]

Make it realistic, swap his head for his butt

[Outlaw]

I'm surprised they haven't at least removed the Springer picture of his bare butt hitting the plaque.

Until he or the Mrs. does, I think he will be getting flack here for a long time. It sure would be a good demonstration of his true remorse, ASSuming (dang, why does my computer always do that?:rolleyes: ) he feels that way. Then again, you know what they say about ASSuming anything.;)

[StarLyte]

Until he or the Mrs. does, I think he will be getting flack here for a long time. It sure would be a good demonstration of his true remorse, ASSuming (dang, why does my computer always do that?:rolleyes: ) he feels that way. Then again, you know what they say about ASSuming anything.;)

Hey Outlaw you got it :cool:

[cannonball]

Let us review what we know to be facts:
cries when his mommy and Granny leave him on Springer.
Wife immediately deletes any critical post in his guest book, suggesting that his wife makes a habit of shielding him from any confrontation of his inappropriate behavior.
refuses help at mountain crossing , insisting that it is a scam and he is good to goat 5olbs.
Gives a less than historical account of how Suches aquired its name.

Offers a lame half hearted excuse unrelated to the real issues.

I'm surely not an expert but this does'nt seem to be a life changing experience for him.

[StarLyte]

This is a TOTAL EXCLUSION to "hike your own hike"

I actually hate that I'm even stimulating anyone on this.

I think he has no class whatsoever and he is embarrassment.

Performing like this at a hiker event, in private, is quite different.

He's a disgrace - sorry. That's how I feel. I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not. I'm very upset over this mans' actions.

He deserves a confrontation with the best.

Sorry Earl - don't look.

[MOWGLI]

He deserves a confrontation with the best.



I'm sorry Marsha, but I'm booked for the forseeable future. ;)

[mudhead]

Several folks have suggested I photoshop SkidMark's shiny white hinney.... perhaps I will. Any suggestions?


Bondage harness thingy. I ain't looking for a link...

[Alligator]

She got it already! It's a good thing I keep odd hours:jump .

[STEVEM]

Let us review what we know to be facts:
cries when his mommy and Granny leave him on Springer.
Wife immediately deletes any critical post in his guest book, suggesting that his wife makes a habit of shielding him from any confrontation of his inappropriate behavior.
refuses help at mountain crossing , insisting that it is a scam and he is good to goat 5olbs.
Gives a less than historical account of how Suches aquired its name.

Offers a lame half hearted excuse unrelated to the real issues.

I'm surely not an expert but this does'nt seem to be a life changing experience for him.

Forrest Gump (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000158/): Mama said stupid is what stupid does.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I think we should voice our displeasure with his antics here, his journal and his email which is listed on his journal site. I have done so myself.

[TOW]

Gatorgump bares all (http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?ID=171286) near Dicks Creek Gap
not exactly how i do it but i just might give it a try someday.......

[oldfivetango]

I think this hiker should be given the benefit of the doubt
now that some sort of half baked apology has been tendered.
He probably realizes by now that the "plaque incident" and the
"Suches story" were in extremely poor taste by anyone's standards.
Honestly,he probably would not have done it if he realized how bad
he was crossing the line;let's give him a chance to redeem himself.
Meanwhile,about his partner Barking Spider who got lost and
took a ride with the hunters to rendezvous with GatorGump-did that
blow his 2000 Miler patch?Will it still be considered a thru if he didnt
pass every white blaze and rode a few miles in an emergency?Inquiring
minds want to know...........
Oldfivetango

[TOW]

apparently. I don't know if it's tradition to kiss the starting plaque but you definitely want to anticepticize it if you do from here on out!
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=206558&back=1
To me that is out of line.............

[saimyoji]

More bareass from gg: http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=171286

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Yes.....make him a BIGGER A$$ :bananaThat would be hard to do... oh, you mean make his rump bigger. I can do that, but since this is a family site.....

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

I think this hiker should be given the benefit of the doubt now that some sort of half baked apology has been tendered. He probably realizes by now that the "plaque incident" and the "Suches story" were in extremely poor taste by anyone's standards. Honestly,he probably would not have done it if he realized how bad he was crossing the line;let's give him a chance to redeem himself.OK, I won't post anymore photoshops - unless he posts another bare bum pic. Then all bets are off.

[Rebel, with a Cause!]

FD, you have cracked ( Pun ) me up. My wife and I are about to die laughing.

You go Girl, we all owe you one for that pic

Cya on the Trail

[Tin Man]

I think this hiker should be given the benefit of the doubt
now that some sort of half baked apology has been tendered.
He probably realizes by now that the "plaque incident" and the
"Suches story" were in extremely poor taste by anyone's standards.
Honestly,he probably would not have done it if he realized how bad
he was crossing the line;let's give him a chance to redeem himself.


Perhaps if the trail really is a life changing event the proof will come when this guy who entered as an a**wipe exits as _____ (fill in blank with whatever you think the expected life changing event makes a person). Maybe we ought to give him that benefit of the doubt.

[BigCat]

I rarely respond to that sort of behavior but that's unbelievable. Sad.

crass /kræs/ –adjective, -er, -est.
1. without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity; gross; obtuse; stupid

[Bilko]

This guy really makes me sick. And the dude who takes the pictures must be a tool himself. It's sad that these guys think that is funny. I really can't think of a reply to those pictures.

We need to appreciate the respectful people that we do meet on the trail.

[Bilko]

Can we just take the thread off, no one needs to see these pictures.

[Tin Man]

We need to appreciate the respectful people that we do meet on the trail.

The real crime is that we have to appreciate the respectful people because it is not a given.

[FanaticFringer]

I hope he hugs that tree often after he drinks straight from the creek.:D

[Wanderingson]

Comments may be deleted from his TJ log, but his celebrity story on WTSP10 has an option of leaving comments. Let's see if his friends at the local news delete posts.

Feel free to leave a note here:

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?s=search&storyid=51365

[Skidsteer]

Oh that's sneaky. I like sneaky.

[Skidsteer]

..........

[briarpatch]

My contribution to the news article's comment section:

Mr Osmond may get some credit for trying improve his physical health, but he gets no credit for class. A picture on his online journal shows him placing his bare butt on the plaque at the beginning of the AT. Many hikers by tradition kiss this plaque and this yahoo puts his bare butt on it. AND His wife deletes any negative comments in his blog before he sees them. Someone needs to let him know that the AT community is NOT happy with his adolescent behavior. I wonder if he would mind folks placing their bare butts on the tables at his resturant?

[hammock engineer]

I think the worst part of all of this is good or bad, he is out there representing the hiking community. He is going to do something like this in a town or in front of some people and ruin something for the rest of us.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I sent a comment to Leif and Zipdrive over at Trail Journals letting them know that he is posting offensive pictures and his antics. Lets see what happens now hehe.

I also posted this on his journal. It will be deleted so here it is;

I have to chime in here and voice my disgust with your antics. You are showing no respect for the AT or the hiking community. The pictures of you on Springer placing your bare buttocks on the plaque and hugging a tree with you pants down around your ankles are nothing more than pornography. Dude wise up there are young children who come here to read the journals. I am glad you are enjoying your hike and wish you continued enjoyment. But come on you are giving the hiking community a bad name with your antics. Please try to be considerate to the rest of us. I know your wife will delete this before you get a chance to see it but hopefully everyone else will and come to realize how appalled we are at your behavior. If my children acted the way you are they would be in deep trouble and have some serious explaining to do.

[Trillium]

OK, I won't post anymore photoshops - unless he posts another bare bum pic. Then all bets are off.
the one you posted was pretty darn funny and much, much less inoffensive than his pic. thanks FD :D

[Matteroo]

I have to say I saw his journal entry with the butt-to-plaque picture before someone started a thread about it, and I did find that behavior of concern. However, it seems to some degree this is a person who feeds on attention and maybe a bit of self-inflated/infatuated-light narciscism perhaps. And this may not even be the case-unless one thinks 10 posts, his wife getting the bad posts off, and some poor manners in 2-3 pictures is enough information to make a full judgement on his character top to bottom. I would give him the benefit of the doubt-there is not harm in doing that. Secondly, if he is a total attention seeker who feeds on drama he creates, he has been extremely successful in getting a rise from many of you. no denying that. Not a criticism of folks who responded but it seems like efforts are best served directing attention away such negativity towards him. my 2cents.

[Lone Wolf]

BFD. some guy bares his ass a couple of times and y'all become dr. phils.

[1Pint]

BFD. some guy bares his ass a couple of times and y'all become dr. phils.

Just to clarify - I'm not particularly bothered by seeing a bare behind.

I am bothered by someone placing his bare behind on a plaque that I intend to kiss. And, yes, after an email exchange with a 1998 thru-hiker, I still intend to kiss the plaque. Why start my hike on someone else's terms? I wanted to start and end with reverence for the trail and the people who made and make it possible. To me, that means kissing the plaques on Springer & Katahdin.

I'm willing to assume that this one incident was just a bad decision and give the guy a chance. I've certainly made more than my share of lame choices and shown poor judgment on numerous occasions. I'd hate for any one of those times to define me.
Peace,
Laura

[Tin Man]

Just to clarify - I'm not particularly bothered by seeing a bare behind.

I am bothered by someone placing his bare behind on a plaque that I intend to kiss. And, yes, after an email exchange with a 1998 thru-hiker, I still intend to kiss the plaque. Why start my hike on someone else's terms? I wanted to start and end with reverence for the trail and the people who made and make it possible. To me, that means kissing the plaques on Springer & Katahdin.

I'm willing to assume that this one incident was just a bad decision and give the guy a chance. I've certainly made more than my share of lame choices and shown poor judgment on numerous occasions. I'd hate for any one of those times to define me.
Peace,
Laura

Well said. I hadn't planned on kissing any plaques, butt it would be a good thing that plaque kissers don't get confused with ass kissers. And what happened to "take only pictures, leave only footprints" principle? (read NOT ass prints)

[Skidsteer]

Just to clarify - I'm not particularly bothered by seeing a bare behind.

I am bothered by someone placing his bare behind on a plaque that I intend to kiss. And, yes, after an email exchange with a 1998 thru-hiker, I still intend to kiss the plaque. Why start my hike on someone else's terms? I wanted to start and end with reverence for the trail and the people who made and make it possible. To me, that means kissing the plaques on Springer & Katahdin.

I'm willing to assume that this one incident was just a bad decision and give the guy a chance. I've certainly made more than my share of lame choices and shown poor judgment on numerous occasions. I'd hate for any one of those times to define me.
Peace,
Laura

One thing to think about.

Just because there is a photo of this guy bare assing the plaque doesn't mean that it's the nastiest thing that's been done to it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I'd be surprised if the plaque isn't regularly pissed on by dogs at the very least. :sun

[Alligator]

Planarphilia:eek: .

[cannonball]

One thing to think about.

Just because there is a photo of this guy bare assing the plaque doesn't mean that it's the nastiest thing that's been done to it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I'd be surprised if the plaque isn't regularly pissed on by dogs at the very least. :sun
To go further, I don't think the act is as bad as the gloating about the act. Surely the plaque is nasty if one only considers the sanitation of it. When one considers what the plaque represents, then yes, placing your bare ass on it,throwing pics of the act on the net, and giving the "in your face" attitude to the hiking community is a vile and disrespectful act.

[cannonball]

BFD. some guy bares his ass a couple of times and y'all become dr. phils.
It is not simply a "bare your ass" issue.

[STEVEM]

BFD. some guy bares his ass a couple of times and y'all become dr. phils.

Any way you look at it, Gump is a "Bad Ass".

[Lone Wolf]

It is not simply a "bare your ass" issue.

then simply elaborate on the issue

[Frosty]

I see they are deleting any guestbook entries that are against his antics.Not uncommon. A couple years ago when those two guys pissed in the Springer shelter and then left early in the morning because it was a frozen yellow puddle and they were afraid someone would show up, I and others commented on it in their guest book, and they received a load of comments here. They not only deleted my (and others') guest book entires, but also deleted the part about pissing on the shelter floor from their journal. A week or so later, they did the same thing (delete guest book complaints AND their journal comments) after they explained in their journal how they left a lot of useless gear (blue jeans, fry pans, etc) in Low Gap Shelter because it was too heavy.

[MOWGLI]

For those of you that want to kiss the plaque, I'm sure it will pour rain before you get there, if it hasn't already.

People are so quick to drill this guy a new one for bearing his posterior Yet, many of the same people would give hikers a pass for proverbially showing their arse in trail towns, or at Trail Days.

The guy apparently said he was sorry. Give it a rest already. Let the folks who are out there sharing shelters with him deal with it. If this was a football game, there would have been a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct about 50 posts ago. It's called "piling on."

If you're still upset, use that pent up energy towards a useful end. Go do some trail maintenence this weekend. I hear there's a plaque that needs some cleaning atop Springer Mountain. ;)

[Frosty]

The voice of reason and moderation, and justgenerally putting things back into perspective. Well said.


For those of you that want to kiss the plaque, I'm sure it will pour rain before you get there, if it hasn't already.

People are so quick to drill this guy a new one for bearing his posterior Yet, many of the same people would give hikers a pass for proverbially showing their arse in trail towns, or at Trail Days.

The guy apparently said he was sorry. Give it a rest already. Let the folks who are out there sharing shelters with him deal with it. If this was a football game, there would have been a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct about 50 posts ago. It's called "piling on."

If you're still upset, use that pent up energy towards a useful end. Go do some trail maintenence this weekend. I hear there's a plaque that needs some cleaning atop Springer Mountain. ;)

[1Pint]

If you're still upset, use that pent up energy towards a useful end. Go do some trail maintenence this weekend. I hear there's a plaque that needs some cleaning atop Springer Mountain. ;)

Plane ticket's already purchased and I'm on my way to do just that. :sun

Now, back to packing my meagerly possessions into boxes and hauling them off to my friend's basement...

[Skidsteer]

Have a great hike, 1Pint.

[Alligator]

I could care less about his baring his ass, it was his slapping it onto the plaque that was disrespectful. Try googling Springer plaque under images and one can easily see that the plaque is an important symbol to many.

If I bare-assed something as simple as your picnic bench, I'll bet an apology and a cleaning would be expected. Even nudists carry towels:rolleyes: .

The apology doesn't cut it. If he had any comprehension the picture would be down too. I'm sorry I offended you, but I'm going to continue to leave the offending picture up:confused: .

[jesse]

If gump-rump was really sorry, he would take the picture off his trail journal.

My 5 year old grandson has a higher maturity level than this guy.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I agree the site of his bare behind is not what offens me. It is the fact that he placed said behind on the plaque and then flaunted it in out faces. Also his statement that it is a hiker tradition to do so when any self respecting hiker knows this is not the case. If he would have been on Mt. Washington and took a pic of his bare behind mooning the cog railway then I would have laughed and said good job as this is a tradition. Also if he would have shown his bare behind on naked hiking day same thing it is tradition. My other concern is that there are many young viewers on TJ. Would you want your youngster to see this? My kids are grown so it is a moot point for me. But not for everyone. I also found a comment made by his son that I find kind of disturbing. "There's been a lot of angry talk around those parts about your buttocks. (Get a tan while you're there.) Hope you don't have to pig-stick any 'Noles on the trail."

[hikerzim]

Just to clarify - I'm not particularly bothered by seeing a bare behind.

I am bothered by someone placing his bare behind on a plaque that I intend to kiss. And, yes, after an email exchange with a 1998 thru-hiker, I still intend to kiss the plaque. Why start my hike on someone else's terms? I wanted to start and end with reverence for the trail and the people who made and make it possible. To me, that means kissing the plaques on Springer & Katahdin.

I'm willing to assume that this one incident was just a bad decision and give the guy a chance. I've certainly made more than my share of lame choices and shown poor judgment on numerous occasions. I'd hate for any one of those times to define me.
Peace,
Laura



I think kissing the plaque is disgusting.....

I ain't putting my lips on that!:D

[Heater]

The guy apparently said he was sorry. Give it a rest already.

This is the paragraph before his half-assed apology.

(He is giving "lessons" for future thru-hikers)

" Well Here's LESSON 8, what you do to get ready is dont bathe, wash your clothes or completely wipe your ass for one week, then with bits of food in your beard and toilet paper stuck to your butt go to an all you can eat restaurant in your town. Make a total pig out of yourself and then just before the manager comes over to kick you out, ask him if he can give you a ride back to the trail."

Nice!

Is he an ASS? You make the call. :-?

[FanaticFringer]

Maybe one of them "Boys" from Deliverance will get ahold of him.:eek:

[Disney]

My guess is that given this guy's ego, and the exposure he has gained in his small town, he will be driven to stay on the trail. Couple that with the long long long journey in front of him. He has no idea, I didn't. I don't now come to that. He may find that the marathon he's started mellows him out a little. In fact, I would be suprised if it didn't. One things for sure, if he makes it to the mountain, he'll kiss the sign.

[Lone Wolf]

One things for sure, if he makes it to the mountain, he'll kiss the sign.

i peed on it recently

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

::: bites LW on the paw :::

[MOWGLI]

Maybe one of them "Boys" from Deliverance will get ahold of him.:eek:

You'd have to hike the Foothills Trail or the Chattooga River Trail to walk next to the Chattooga River. And anyway, that's a stereotype we can all do without.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

I vote we follow this guy down the trail with a roll of duct tape and a Brazillian on our minds..... :D

[Tin Man]

... before his half-assed apology...

This has been raised before and makes we wonder what would make a full-assed apology? :-? I may need one handy in case I offend someone. :rolleyes:

[Disney]

The parallel has been drawn to the guy last year peeing in shelters. So I'll go ahead and take it a step farther. He started out badly but I followed his journal and he really changed while on the trail. I think this guy probably will too. But I am young, and do not understand the minds of those twice my age.

[Footslogger]

The parallel has been drawn to the guy last year peeing in shelters. So I'll go ahead and take it a step farther. He started out badly but I followed his journal and he really changed while on the trail. I think this guy probably will too. But I am young, and do not understand the minds of those twice my age.

===========================================

I'm MORE than twice your age and don't understand the minds of most people, older or younger. Life is a lot less stressful once you give up trying (to understand other's minds, that is).

'Slogger

[FanaticFringer]

You'd have to hike the Foothills Trail or the Chattooga River Trail to walk next to the Chattooga River. And anyway, that's a stereotype we can all do without.

Sorry. I did'nt know you were so sensative.:rolleyes:

[Furlough]

If Gatorgump offends you or you can't or don't get or agree with his sense of humor - stop reading his journal.

In the words of Drill Sergeant Hulka (The Late Actor Warren Oates) from the movie Stripes - "Lighten Up Francis"


Furlough

[floyd242]

Wow you guys are prudes.

[Dances with Mice]

His hike is not brief.

[EWS]

If this get someone so wound up, they must have skipped they're teenage years and forgot what fun it was to act like a kid at times. I was just waiting for the Jesus-train to start rolling right along with the with the moral superiority. Lighten up.

[MOWGLI]

Sorry. I did'nt know you were so sensative.:rolleyes:

I'm not sensitive. I'm simply respectful of the folks who live in & around the trails in the SE. And elsewhere.

[Alligator]

You guys are right. The height of comedy. Heehaw, he wiped his ass on the start of the AT maybe he'll hump the Katahdin sign to finish :rolleyes: .

[terrapin_too]

If this get someone so wound up, they must have skipped they're teenage years and forgot what fun it was to act like a kid at times. I was just waiting for the Jesus-train to start rolling right along with the with the moral superiority. Lighten up.

This ain't no jesus-train. I'm no prude. Pressing one's butt against the AT plaque at Springer is just plain disrespectful to the tens of thousands of folks, over tens of decades, who created and maintained this trail and made it what it is. It's just crass and stupid.

[jesse]

Wow you guys are prudes
I think it has more to do with setting the record straight. How many people from his hometown will read his journal and think that bare-assing the Springer plaque is a tradition among thru hikers.
Also, I belive that people who use outdoor public resourses like the AT, have an obligation to practice good manners. If the AT starts looking like "spring break" anything goes, sooner or later it will impact us all negativly, either with more regulations, less funding, fewer people using the trail.
I don't consider myself prudish, but I think that "gump-rump's" behavior is not good for the trail.

[Lone Wolf]

no more mooning the cog or hike naked day either.

[Lone Wolf]

but I think that "gump-rump's" behavior is not good for the trail.

neither are shelters and leki poles good for the trail

[Alligator]

You oughta slack this guy when he gets to Damascus, LW. Let him bareass your Harley:D .

[Footslogger]

You oughta slack this guy when he gets to Damascus, LW. Let him bareass your Harley:D .

=============================

With the leather chaps ?? There goes the parade !!

'Slogger

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

:::: Resisting the urge to photoshop SkidMark in leather chaps and nothing else riding LW's Harley ::::

[Footslogger]

:::: Resisting the urge to photoshop SkidMark in leather chaps and nothing else riding LW's Harley ::::

=============================

A$$uming that would be a posterior view ??

'Slogger

[RockStar]

Mooning the cog? Tell me more. I have heard of hike naked day...is there anything else?

[ShakeyLeggs]

Mooning the cog? Tell me more. I have heard of hike naked day...is there anything else?

Yea when you get up to Mt Washington the tradition is to moon the Cog Railway. Now there is a bit of a trick to it. If you moon the engine then you will get coal thrown at you but if you moon the passenger cars you will get cheers and jeers.

[Fannypack]

Mooning the cog? Tell me more. I have heard of hike naked day...is there anything else?

this comes from this page: http://www.carolinamtnclub.com/Enews/enews%20archive/030618-E-NewsletterNews.htm

Its an unofficial holiday celebrated on June 21 (The Summer Solstice) , when braver souls among us indulge in a little boots-only hiking. Strictly voluntary and celebrated on the solstice, some say it got its start on the Appalachian Trail, intended to break the monotony of a third-month thru hiker. It has since spread nationwide; anecdotal evidence suggests its more than a passing fad!

Check the June 21 entry: http://www.newsushi.net/atnjny.html

And u may want to check the June 21 entry from journals at http://trailjournals.com

[Hana_Hanger]

I can't find your journal Fannypack?
The link you left only takes us to the homepage of trail journals.

[MikeG]

wow after reading some of the post in this thread its very clear that there are some very angry people here. this guy is a riot. I give him alot of credit, his sense of humor is very refreshing. Ive meet way too many hikers who take themselves way too seriously. I see some of you question his "character" yet you find humor in spamming his comments when you know his wife takes the time to delete the negative ones. hypocritical? sounds like it.

[MikeG]

this reminds me of highschool were there are those kids who have to get into everyones business and make a big deal about it. apparently some of you are pretty bored and are looknig to create drama, good for you.

[terrapin_too]

this reminds me of highschool were there are those kids who have to get into everyones business and make a big deal about it. apparently some of you are pretty bored and are looknig to create drama, good for you.

There are all sorts of a*holes on the AT. I just wish I'd never heard about this one, that's all.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Mike, one thing I don't think I've ever been accused of is not having a sense of humor.

The problem is many see rubbing the bum on the Springer plaque as kind of disrespectful to the trail. What if he had bare-a$$ed a flag or a cross? Would that have been disrespectful? To me, it wasn't funny at all - it was in extremely poor taste.

Then his cat-hole pic came along.... A photo of a guy pooping on the trail is not funny to me either. You call him a riot, but his journal just looks like the ramblings of a fellow with a bad case of arrested development to me. If he were 20 yo, I would just write it off to wild oats, but this guy is old enough to know real humor from juvenile nonsense.

[ShakeyLeggs]

Man you guys that are supporting him just don't get it. Well to enlighten you this is my take on the events in question. How would you like it if I came into your church, home or any place you hold dear and desicrated it by placing my bare rump on a portion of that which you hold dear. Would you like to see my bare rump on your churches alter, wedding picture, childs picture or anything else for that matter. If you say yes to this then more power to you but I do find this offensive. Not top mention he commited a crime per O.C.G.A. § 16-12-80 (http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/ocode/ocgsearch?number=16-12-80)
The above cited is from the Georgia code

[STEVEM]

Mike, one thing I don't think I've ever been accused of is not having a sense of humor.

The problem is many see rubbing the bum on the Springer plaque as kind of disrespectful to the trail. What if he had bare-a$$ed a flag or a cross? Would that have been disrespectful? To me, it wasn't funny at all - it was in extremely poor taste.

Then his cat-hole pic came along.... A photo of a guy pooping on the trail is not funny to me either. You call him a riot, but his journal just looks like the ramblings of a fellow with a bad case of arrested development to me. If he were 20 yo, I would just write it off to wild oats, but this guy is old enough to know real humor from juvenile nonsense.

Here's a solution to this whole issue: Someone needs convince Gatorass that it's a hiker tradition to visit DC on Memorial Day and give a bare assed salute to the Vietnam War Memorial. Problem solved!

By the way, for anyone who plans to visit his restaurant I think I'd take a pass on the salad bar.

[jesse]

Mike G

this reminds me of highschool were there are those kids who have to get into everyones business and make a big deal about it
I am one of those who has spoken out againts this guys rude behavior. I do not know this gump-rump, and could not give a damn what he does in his private life. Nobody went digging into his personal business, gump-rump decided to go public with his childish behavior. Me and several others are simply responding to his public demonstration. As I stated in an earlier thread, this and any other rude behavior is not good for the trail, and the trail is my business.

Now, I have a question for you Mike G. You are 19, gump-rump is about the age of your parents. Would you find it funny if your mother posted pictures of herself bare-assing the springer plaque, on the Internet?

[Footslogger]

To do something like this with some of your friends around, get a laugh and move on is one thing. Not saying it's right ...I'm just saying.

What is giving this whole situation a different tone is that it was memorialized in photos and is being used like it gives the guy some sort of bragging rights.

'Slogger

[Dances with Mice]

this reminds me of highschool Did you go to Milton High? What if someone tagged the log cabin then bragged about it on Myspace?

It's kind of like that.

[Gray Blazer]

he commited a crime per O.C.G.A. § 16-12-80 (http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/ocode/ocgsearch?number=16-12-80)
The above cited is from the Georgia code

Is there a statute of limitations? The guy's in NC now. I just got back from the bash and hiking in NC. The hiker who (to me) is screwing up is Coyote. He's taking those giant fungis off the trees (I enjoy looking at them on the trees) and etching on them and leaving them in the shelters. Gator Rump, show some class like the national champs you are named after. One Pint, I left you a message in the Rock Gap journal. I was going to leave you my gator hat, but I knew it wouldn't stay there all that time.

[rickb]

I ain't putting my lips on that

If I had a nickle .....

I am all for loving the AT, but that thing with the plaque thing seems a bit out there.

[Outlaw]

Not top mention he commited a crime per O.C.G.A. § 16-12-80 (http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/ocode/ocgsearch?number=16-12-80)The above cited is from the Georgia code

I fully understand and respect everyone's perspective pertaining to the lack of respect to a public monument (yes, much like the Viet Nam War Memorial) by a 50 y.o. "adult" who should theoretically know better (great role model for his own children, eh?).

However, the statute cited above is from 2001 there is no reference to whether that statute is currently in effect in 2007 as written or if it was even repealed. In addition, in my legal opinion, the photos do not reflect actions that violate that statute, especially in this day and age of computerized photo enhancement and the ability to manipulate photographs (like the Dinos' do so well). Even if there is no doctoring of the photos, the actions by Grumpy Butt are not violative of the statute's inclusive definition of "obscene." Good thought though.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

(3) The material depicts or describes, in a patently offensive
way, sexual conduct specifically defined in subparagraphs (A)
through (E) of this paragraph:.......
(C) Acts involving excretory functions........

(a) A person commits the offense of distributing material depicting
nudity or sexual conduct when he sends unsolicited through the mail
or otherwise unsolicited causes to be delivered material depicting
nudity or sexual conduct to any person or residence or office unless
there is imprinted upon the envelope or container of such material
in not less than eight-point boldface type the following notice:

"Notice -- The material contained herein depicts nudity or sexual
conduct. If the viewing of such material could be offensive to the
addressee, this container should not be opened but returned to the
sender."

(b) As used within this Code section, the term:

(1) "Nudity" means the showing of the human male or female
genitals, pubic area, or buttocks with less than a full opaque
covering or the depiction of covered male genitals in a
discernibly turgid state.

The Springer pic and the cat-hole pic show the fellow's buttocks and the cat-hole pic depicts an
excretory function.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I fully understand and respect everyone's perspective pertaining to the lack of respect to a public monument (yes, much like the Viet Nam War Memorial) by a 50 y.o. "adult" who should theoretically know better (great role model for his own children, eh?).

However, the statute cited above is from 2001 there is no reference to whether that statute is currently in effect in 2007 as written or if it was even repealed. In addition, in my legal opinion, the photos do not reflect actions that violate that statute, especially in this day and age of computerized photo enhancement and the ability to manipulate photographs (like the Dinos' do so well). Even if there is no doctoring of the photos, the actions by Grumpy Butt are not violative of the statute's inclusive definition of "obscene." Good thought though.

Sorry I have to post the full text as it is on a website that I subscribe to and to link it would require a login.

GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2006 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current through the 2006 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 12. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND MORALS
ARTICLE 3. OBSCENITY AND RELATED OFFENSES
PART 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS
O.C.G.A. § 16-12-80 (2006)

Ok hows this one bite ya;


O.C.G.A. § 16-6-8

GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2006 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current through the 2006 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 6. SEXUAL OFFENSES
O.C.G.A. § 16-6-8 (2006)
§ 16-6-8. Public indecency

(a) A person commits the offense of public indecency when he or she performs any of the following acts in a public place:
(1) An act of sexual intercourse;
(2) A lewd exposure of the sexual organs;
(3) A lewd appearance in a state of partial or complete nudity; or
(4) A lewd caress or indecent fondling of the body of another person.
(b) A person convicted of the offense of public indecency as provided in subsection (a) of this Code section shall be punished as for a misdemeanor except as provided in subsection (c) of this Code section.
(c) Upon a third or subsequent conviction for public indecency for the violation of paragraph (2), (3), or (4) of subsection (a) of this Code section, a person shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.
(d) For the purposes of this Code section only, "public place" shall include jails and penal and correctional institutions of the state and its political subdivisions.
(e) This Code section shall be cumulative to and shall not prohibit the enactment of any other general and local laws, rules, and regulations of state and local authorities or agencies and local ordinances prohibiting such activities which are more restrictive than this Code section.

HISTORY: (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/) Laws 1833, Cobb's 1851 Digest, p. 815; Code 1863, § 4420; Ga. L. 1865-66, p. 233, § 2; Code 1868, § 4461; Code 1873, § 4535; Code 1882, § 4535; Penal Code 1895, § 390; Penal Code 1910, § 381; Code 1933, § 26-6101; Code 1933, § 26-2011, enacted by Ga. L. 1968, p. 1249, § 1; Ga. L. 1991, p. 966, § 1; Ga. L. 1992, p. 6, § 16; Ga. L. 1996, p. 312, § 1; Ga. L. 1996, p. 354, § 1.

[Outlaw]

The Springer pic and the cat-hole pic show the fellow's buttocks and the cat-hole pic depicts an
excretory function.
first, you are confusing two seperate code sections, e.g. 16-12-80 and 16-12-81. They are seperate and independent of one another.

Second, hanging out his bare butt while clinging to a tree with no excrement either on the ground or shown coming from his rectum is not "depicting excretory function." He can reasonably be accused of hanging an ugly moon, but it is one's perception that he is doing something more than merely mooning.

[Outlaw]

Sorry I have to post the full text as it is on a website that I subscribe to and to link it would require a login.

GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2006 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current through the 2006 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 12. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND MORALS
ARTICLE 3. OBSCENITY AND RELATED OFFENSES
PART 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS
O.C.G.A. § 16-12-80 (2006)

Ok hows this one bite ya;


O.C.G.A. § 16-6-8

GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2006 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current through the 2006 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 6. SEXUAL OFFENSES
O.C.G.A. § 16-6-8 (2006)
§ 16-6-8. Public indecency

(a) A person commits the offense of public indecency when he or she performs any of the following acts in a public place:
(1) An act of sexual intercourse;
(2) A lewd exposure of the sexual organs;
(3) A lewd appearance in a state of partial or complete nudity; or
(4) A lewd caress or indecent fondling of the body of another person.
(b) A person convicted of the offense of public indecency as provided in subsection (a) of this Code section shall be punished as for a misdemeanor except as provided in subsection (c) of this Code section.
(c) Upon a third or subsequent conviction for public indecency for the violation of paragraph (2), (3), or (4) of subsection (a) of this Code section, a person shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.
(d) For the purposes of this Code section only, "public place" shall include jails and penal and correctional institutions of the state and its political subdivisions.
(e) This Code section shall be cumulative to and shall not prohibit the enactment of any other general and local laws, rules, and regulations of state and local authorities or agencies and local ordinances prohibiting such activities which are more restrictive than this Code section.

HISTORY: (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/) Laws 1833, Cobb's 1851 Digest, p. 815; Code 1863, § 4420; Ga. L. 1865-66, p. 233, § 2; Code 1868, § 4461; Code 1873, § 4535; Code 1882, § 4535; Penal Code 1895, § 390; Penal Code 1910, § 381; Code 1933, § 26-6101; Code 1933, § 26-2011, enacted by Ga. L. 1968, p. 1249, § 1; Ga. L. 1991, p. 966, § 1; Ga. L. 1992, p. 6, § 16; Ga. L. 1996, p. 312, § 1; Ga. L. 1996, p. 354, § 1.

I'll leave the "biting" to Mrs. Dino.

Subsection (a)(3) may be appropos subject to the statute's definition of "lewd," which is unknown at this time.

[ShakeyLeggs]

first, you are confusing two seperate code sections, e.g. 16-12-80 and 16-12-81. They are seperate and independent of one another.

Second, hanging out his bare butt while clinging to a tree with no excrement either on the ground or shown coming from his rectum is not "depicting excretory function." He can reasonably be accused of hanging an ugly moon, but it is one's perception that he is doing something more than merely mooning.

Ok in that case how about § 16-6-8. Public indecency that I cited above?

"

[ShakeyLeggs]

I'll leave the "biting" to Mrs. Dino.

Subsection (a)(3) may be appropos subject to the statute's definition of "lewd," which is unknown at this time.

Lewd being a grey area and up to interpretation of the enforcing agency.

Either way you cut it there are many here that find what he did offensive. Also there are many who do not. Personally the nudity does not offend me what does though is the defacing of the Springer plaque by placing his buttock on it and then flaunting it and lieing about it being a tradition when in fact it is not. If he would have mooned the camera at Springer as to say I am here and you are not I would have had a good laugh and said way to go guy as I would have taken it as exuberance at starting his hike.

[Outlaw]

Lewd being a grey area and up to interpretation of the enforcing agency.

Sorry, but this should not (and cannot) be left to the subjective interpretration by a LEO when you are talking about taking away one's liberty (a misdemeanor is a crime punishable by up to one year incarceration) based on what some LEO believes or perceives as lewd conduct.

[Outlaw]

Personally the nudity does not offend me what does though is the defacing of the Springer plaque by placing his buttock on it and then flaunting it and lieing about it being a tradition when in fact it is not. If he would have mooned the camera at Springer as to say I am here and you are not I would have had a good laugh and said way to go guy as I would have taken it as exuberance at starting his hike.

I can't agree more. But whether his actions were criminal in nature is a whole other matter.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I can't agree more. But whether his actions were criminal in nature is a whole other matter.

I agree!! Ours is not to determine if his actions rise to a criminal act or not. That is for law enforcement to determine if they are so inclined. Ours is to discuss our personal reactions to his acts as we judge them based on our personal beliefs. I cited those statutes for conversation starters as to whether he stepped over the line based on the law of the land.

Outlaw love the sig.

[EWS]

Yawn!!!

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.560sec.com/albums/944-LT1/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg&usg=__uhk1ZY5SrIVvIp6JvvKIKzDDiLU=

[Nest]

The Springer pic and the cat-hole pic show the fellow's buttocks and the cat-hole pic depicts an
excretory function.

So, does this mean I have to hike through GA as fast as possible so I can take a crap in the woods?

[EWS]

Highly recommended unless you want to be bored with someone quoting codes to you on the trial; and don't refer to the "excretory function" as "crap", you may offend someone. :wink:

[Nest]

Highly recommended unless you want to be bored with someone quoting codes to you on the trial; and don't refer to the "excretory function" as "crap", you may offend someone. :wink:

Oh crap.. I mean, Oh excretory function! Thanks for the heads up.

[hammock engineer]

All this talk has me seriously reconsidering doing a TJ. I would not do something like this guy did and has nothing to do with this guy. But I think I would not be about to write everything I do. Write one thing that someone does not like, then everyone comes out of the wood work. I think that for me it takes away some of the privite aspects of what I am looking for.

[Wanderingson]

Well, I have been kicking back and checking out repsonses to this thread and can't help to this that this online hiking community of ours is a really cool place. It is no differnt that being out on the trail where each of us has our own opinions on just about any subject. These opinions range from bitching about lipton noodles right on down to discussions on inappropriate behavior--Man I love it.

Here is what I'll ofer up. This guy has drawn a lot of attention through his actions. It's easy for us all to jump in and join the great debate on his conduct--I certainly have. I guess the bottom line right now is the judgement of all of those folks out there on the trail with him. They will perhaps be the real judges of his actions. Word on the trail sometimes travels faster than the World Wide Web. If he is acting like an A$$ out there, folks will certainly be chatting about it on the Wild Wild Web in shelter registers and word of mouth.

Time will tell, I'd be curious to see how things turn out with this character.

Now about the humor part. Each of us has our own concept of humor. SOme folks level of humor is rather tame, but others can be sick, twisted, and very distorted. Heck I can have a wicked A$$ sense of humor at times myself.

I won't beat a dead horse about the A$$ on plaque situation, but now my curiousity is up to see what this guy may be up to next.

Whether we like or dislike this dude, he has certainly given this online community something to discuss and perhaps, that is exactly what he desires to do.

[Nest]

All this talk has me seriously reconsidering doing a TJ. I would not do something like this guy did and has nothing to do with this guy. But I think I would not be about to write everything I do. Write one thing that someone does not like, then everyone comes out of the wood work. I think that for me it takes away some of the privite aspects of what I am looking for.


As far as a TJ goes, I have one, but probably won't update it much during my hike. I am using it more for seeing who else will be hiking with me. Between this site and TJ, I will probably talk to a good percentage of the people I will meet on the trail. I am using it more as a prep tool than a journal I guess.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

So, does this mean I have to hike through GA as fast as possible so I can take a crap in the woods?No, just don't take pics and send them via any means (including the net) without posting the warning stated in the law :D

BTW, I posted purely to show his actions were illegal, not to attempt to get him in actual legal trouble.

[Furlough]

Lewd being a grey area and up to interpretation of the enforcing agency.

Either way you cut it there are many here that find what he did offensive. Also there are many who do not. Personally the nudity does not offend me what does though is the defacing of the Springer plaque by placing his buttock on it and then flaunting it and lieing about it being a tradition when in fact it is not. If he would have mooned the camera at Springer as to say I am here and you are not I would have had a good laugh and said way to go guy as I would have taken it as exuberance at starting his hike.

For those of you who have seen the Springer Plaque before and after this incident can you tell us all exactly how this Plaque has been defaced? Did this guys 4th point of contact (an airborne term for butt) have such toxic properities that after coming in contact with this venerable symbol of the AT that the plaques appearance is actually marred or blotted out?

Or in the minds of some did Gatorgumps action defame their belief of what this plaque stands for?? And are you saying that in his mind he set out with the expressed intent to defame your beliefs and then knowlingly continue to flaunt this pre-meditated defamation by not editing out both his photos and his words?? And, that on top of that - that his apology for his actions is likewise a farce?

Also, based on the laws cited above are we now to understand that while hiking in Georgia one can only ever legally pee or poop in an approved facility? Also, I guess this means that while hiking in Georgia there will be no celebration of the Summer Solstice by participating in Hike Naked Day, at least while naked.:)

For the record I did not appreciate either of his 4th point of contact photos either. But, I also do not think that his actions are worth all of the negativity and vituperation being expressed in this thread.

Have a great Spring and Summer of Hiking.

Furlough

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

All this talk has me seriously reconsidering doing a TJ. I would not do something like this guy did and has nothing to do with this guy. But I think I would not be about to write everything I do. Write one thing that someone does not like, then everyone comes out of the wood work. I think that for me it takes away some of the privite aspects of what I am looking for.Hammock Engineer, this guy posted two picks that are way over-the-top and the whole tone of his journal is pretty over-the-top for a 50 yo guy IMO. As I said earlier, if he were a young kid, I would just write his antics off to wild oats.

I know you and I seriously doubt you have it in you to be as off-the-wall as this fellow has been. You are a genuine, down-to-earth young man who already has applied himself to several life goals and is now attempting another. You get nothing but cheers from this crusty old dino even when you have a bad day and write something weird in your journal. If you started writing weird stuff day after day, I would be contacting you privately to check on you as I know you and this would indicate something was wrong.

[Appalachian Tater]

My oh my, some people are a least a bit uptight about buttocks, of which 'most everyone has a pair. Buttocks are funny whether you like it or not!

I certainly wish I were out on the trail right now having as much fun as this guy is and can certainly understand how some people might be a bit jealous of him.

[STEVEM]

For those of you who have seen the Springer Plaque before and after this incident can you tell us all exactly how this Plaque has been defaced? Did this guys 4th point of contact (an airborne term for butt) have such toxic properities that after coming in contact with this venerable symbol of the AT that the plaques appearance is actually marred or blotted out?

Or in the minds of some did Gatorgumps action defame their belief of what this plaque stands for?? And are you saying that in his mind he set out with the expressed intent to defame your beliefs and then knowlingly continue to flaunt this pre-meditated defamation by not editing out both his photos and his words?? And, that on top of that - that his apology for his actions is likewise a farce?

Also, based on the laws cited above are we now to understand that while hiking in Georgia one can only ever legally pee or poop in an approved facility? Also, I guess this means that while hiking in Georgia there will be no celebration of the Summer Solstice by participating in Hike Naked Day, at least while naked.:)

For the record I did not appreciate either of his 4th point of contact photos either. But, I also do not think that his actions are worth all of the negativity and vituperation being expressed in this thread.

Have a great Spring and Summer of Hiking.

Furlough

Certainly there was no permanent harm to the plaque. Sometimes the damage caused by seemingly harmless acts is greater than you might realize.

I work with a woman who does not hike, but she occasionally asks me about the places where I go. Not too long ago I told her that the hike on the AT from the DWG to Sunfish Pond was really nice in the spring. She said to me that that was a really dangerous place and she would never consider going there. Confused, I asked why.

It turns out that several years ago, her neighbor who was recently divorced at the time took her young daughters for a walk there on what must have been hike naked day. Anyway on their return they encountered a naked hiker. Needless to say the mom and girls panic and run terrified back to their car.

That hiker intended no harm, but has indeed damaged the trail. That woman from what I'm told no longer goes on any trails alone, I doubt she allows her daughters to hike, and she tells everyone she knows about the psycho naked man and how dangerous the AT is.

I actually like Gumps sense of humor. If you have a heart attack at the age of 48 and don't have (or get) a sense of humor you're in a lot of trouble. I do however feel that he and all hikers need to be more mature about what they do and give consideration to others. The trail is there for families, dayhikers, nature lovers, scouts, and countless others. It should not be a traveling frat party for a small group of thruhikers.

[Lone Wolf]

if gatorgump left a steaming turd pile on the plaque, then we'd have somethin' to chuckle about.:)

[Outlaw]

if gatorgump left a steaming turd pile on the plaque, then we'd have somethin' to chuckle about.:)

...or something to be truly steamed about. And what if he then proceeded to wipe his a$$ with an American flag? Would you still be chuckling then LW?:-?

Do I think gatorgump's actions were criminal in nature? Heck no.
Do I think he has a distorted or twisted sense of humor? Yup, whether you find him to be funny or not is a subjective and personal decision only you can make for yourself.
Do I think he overstepped the boundaries of common decency by bare-a$$ing a historic and somewhat iconic monument? Yup.
Do I think this guy is a good role model for future hikers? So far, by his actions I would say no. Perhaps over the course of his remaining miles on the trail he can "redeem" himself in our eyes... I certainly hope he does!

Bottom line to me: Whether or not you find his actions humerous, what is he teaching his children or other children who may read his TJ?:(

[Lone Wolf]

y'all need some "lighten up" pills.:banana

[Outlaw]

y'all need some "lighten up" pills.:banana

I don't need any pills. I sleep perfectly fine at night whether I think this guy is okay in my book or otherwise. No skin off my nose. This is just a fun forum for people to express their thoughts and ideas, debate some esoteric concepts, get some good info, get some bad info, share some recipies, bitch a little, or do whatever. Trust me, my man thong ain't in no bunch over this guy's actions (really glad I go commando).:D

[Gaiter]

y'all need some "lighten up" pills.:banana

seriously, and chances are since he had just got on the trail, his butt was a whole lot cleaner/less germs than anyone else's lips.

[Cookerhiker]

..........Bottom line to me: Whether or not you find his actions humerous, what is he teaching his children or other children who may read his TJ?:(

You may wish to find a different expression for summarizing your position given your feelings on this guy.:D

[Alligator]

seriously, and chances are since he had just got on the trail, his butt was a whole lot cleaner/less germs than anyone else's lips.You meet two random people at the Springer plaque. You have the option to kiss one on the lips or one on the ass. You think your chances are better germwise to kiss the person's ass:confused: ?

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

It isn't about the bare bum anymore than the outrage when someone burns a flag or a cross is about the fire. While I seriously doubt 'SkidMark' intended to defame the the trail, bare-bumming the plague was in poor taste.

Then he proceeded to get a bare-bum shot of what appears to be him pooping in a cathole directly on the trail. He could have easily demostrated the technique without the bare bum.

The bottom line :rolleyes: is that a bare bum isn't funny once you are out of your teens unless it is part of another joke - like on LW's Harley or a pair of pumpkins. There is no joke in the Springer plague or pooping photos.

[EWS]

The bottom line :rolleyes: is that a bare bum isn't funny once you are out of your teens unless it is part of another joke - like on LW's Harley or a pair of pumpkins. There is no joke in the Springer plague or pooping photos.

I guess you are attempting to speak for everyone, and force your values upon them too. :rolleyes: Nice, I would rate that as worse than insulting any icon or idol.

As well, at least two people thought it was a joke and funny one at that, bum-man and the photographer. :eek:

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

OK EWS, I'll restate - the majority of adults don't find the sight of a bare-bum amusing unless there is an underlying joke.

BTW, Bum-man seems to be using a delayed pic or remote camera for photos.

[Heater]

y'all need some "lighten up" pills.:banana

How would you feel if someone pissed on a Marine Corps plaque?

:-?

[Lone Wolf]

How would you feel if someone pissed on a Marine Corps plaque?

:-?

the dude sat on a plaque. no pissing or sh**ting involved

[jesse]

Ditto everything FD has said on this thread.

The hiking community has a vested interest in keeping the trail open and free. Anytime something threatens the trail, such as development, lack of funding, environmental matters, etc, people rise up to protect the trail. Keeping the trail "family friendly" is an important factor in keeping the trail open and free. Showing your ass, hiking nude, etc.,on a public trail is "un-family-friendly".
Isolated cases here and there are not likley to have any lasting effect, but these things have a way of esclating. I am not nearly as concerned about what gump-rump has done as I am over the attitude some on WB have shown accepting this behavior.
If the trail turns into "spring break", or "mardi gra" it is in jeopardy.

[Lone Wolf]

Hiker Girls Gone Wild!:eek: :banana Bring 'em on!

[Alligator]

the dude sat on a plaque. no pissing or sh**ting involvedWell in that case, after you slack the guy, have him over for a sit down on your service plaque:jump .

[Lone Wolf]

what's a service plaque?

[Alligator]

what's a service plaque?You don't get a plaque noting your service upon separation? Several folks I know have them. Maybe it's an Army tradition?

Then again, maybe they were awards.

[Heater]

seriously, and chances are since he had just got on the trail, his butt was a whole lot cleaner/less germs than anyone else's lips.

Go kiss the plaque and give us a report! ;)

[Lone Wolf]

You don't get a plaque noting your service upon separation? Several folks I know have them. Maybe it's an Army tradition?

nope. i got a DD 214 and an Honorable Discharge certificate.

[Lone Wolf]

Go kiss the plaque and give us a report! ;)

kissing a plaque is as stupid as sitting on one

[waterboy99]

Wolf, as far as transfering Fecal Coliform to the plaque, just sitting on it with his bare bottom is all it takes. Good chance any one who touched or even worse kissed it after he sat on it has a real good/bad chance of getting ill. Even the family of hikers who wanted to touch the plaque. My info comes from my years as an Environmental Health Spec.

[Heater]

It isn't about the bare bum anymore than the outrage when someone burns a flag or a cross is about the fire. While I seriously doubt 'SkidMark' intended to defame the the trail, bare-bumming the plague was in poor taste.

Then he proceeded to get a bare-bum shot of what appears to be him pooping in a cathole directly on the trail. He could have easily demostrated the technique without the bare bum.

The bottom line :rolleyes: is that a bare bum isn't funny once you are out of your teens unless it is part of another joke - like on LW's Harley or a pair of pumpkins. There is no joke in the Springer plague or pooping photos.

...and after being reminded repeatedly about the reasons it is offensive, this JERK and his JERK journaler, (wife) refuse to simply remove the offending photos off of Trailjournals.:mad:

I wonder if the admins at TJ have been advised? :-?

[MikeG]

Did you go to Milton High? What if someone tagged the log cabin then bragged about it on Myspace?

It's kind of like that.


i pissed on the log cabin once, i went to chattahoochee.

[Footslogger]

[quote=Alligator;349489]You don't get a plaque noting your service upon separation?

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Not in the '68 - '71 era (US Army). All we got was a DD214 and a mass produced 8 x 10 certificate signed by Richard Nixon.

'Slogger

[Heater]

kissing a plaque is as stupid as sitting on one

OK. Someone bareasses the Marine corps plaque at your local VFW then immediately joins up and says "it's all cool 'cause I got the Captain in me... HAHAHA!!! It was just a JOKE. You need to lighten up!

He walks out the door of the recruiting office 10 minutes after the bareasing. Whaddya gonna do? :-?

[Heater]

i pissed on the log cabin once, i went to chattahoochee.

Why? Because you knew it would piss them off and youknew it was wrong? :-?

Same thing. Grow up.

[Lone Wolf]

OK. Someone bareasses the Marine corps plaque at your local VFW then immediately joins up and says "it's all cool 'cause I got the Captain in me... HAHAHA!!! It was just a JOKE. You need to lighten up!

He walks out the door of the recruiting office 10 minutes after the bareasing. Whaddya gonna do? :-?

do you ride the bus or take your lunch to school.

[Lone Wolf]

OK. Someone bareasses the Marine corps plaque at your local VFW then immediately joins up and says "it's all cool 'cause I got the Captain in me... HAHAHA!!! It was just a JOKE. You need to lighten up!

He walks out the door of the recruiting office 10 minutes after the bareasing. Whaddya gonna do? :-?

this would never happen by the way

[Alligator]

[quote=Alligator;349489]You don't get a plaque noting your service upon separation?

==================================

Not in the '68 - '71 era (US Army). All we got was a mass produced 8 x 10 certificate signed by Richard Nixon.

'SloggerMy brother has an Army plaque which he received when he discharged in '93 or '94 I believe. I remember his noting that he had received it for his service. Must have been more of an award then. I've also been in other veteran's homes where they have plaques with their service dates on them. I guess in some cases they buy them themselves. Sorry if I was mistaken that these were given upon separation. They ought to be at least.

[Heater]

this would never happen by the way

Too a-sceered to just answer the question?

Just answer the ***ng question.

[Lone Wolf]

Too a-sceered to just answer the question?

Just answer the ***ng question.

what's your f cking question?

[Heater]

do you ride the bus or take your lunch to school.

In the past I got there the same way you get to Dots.

[Lilred]

What really bothers me now are the lies he is telling in his journal, which is being printed in a newspaper/magazine. It is not tradition to bare ass the plaque, nor did Suches get its name as he suggests. I am not a prude. I have spent time at nudist beaches in my youth. Each and every person carries with them a towel to sit on. It is the epitome of rudeness not to use it. I agree with Dino, if he were a kid, I'd cut him some slack. This guy is my age for cryin out loud.
This guy made some extremely immature choices for a man his age. I'd truly be embarrassed for my husband if he did something like this.

[Heater]

what's your f cking question?

I posted the question (you respended with a diversion) no less than 10 minutes ago)

If you cannot follow a simple thread/conversation that is not my problem. maybe you should lay off the beers for a while.

...or you just do not want to answer the question?!!:-?

Scroll up.

[Lone Wolf]

OK. Someone bareasses the Marine corps plaque at your local VFW then immediately joins up and says "it's all cool 'cause I got the Captain in me... HAHAHA!!! It was just a JOKE. You need to lighten up!

He walks out the door of the recruiting office 10 minutes after the bareasing. Whaddya gonna do? :-?

he gets his ass kicked. next question

[Lone Wolf]

If you cannot follow a simple thread/conversation that is not my problem. maybe you should lay off the beers for a while.

.

maybe you should go f ck yourself, cupcake.:)

[Footslogger]

Sorry if I was mistaken that these were given upon separation. They ought to be at least.

=====================================

That's cool. Specific units have had a tradition of rewarding long term service with some sort of plaque. As an example, I was given a plaque by the divisional jump school where I served as a Parachute Instructor. Haven't seen any reason to sit on it nekkid though.

To my knowledge though, the Army in general doesn't see fit to go that route.

'Slogger

[ShakeyLeggs]

I wonder if the admins at TJ have been advised? :-?

Yes they have been informed. No reply yet

As for a seperation plaque from the Army. Back in 88 when I got out all I recieved was my DD214 and a handshake.

I just got this from his Journal Guestbook;

Name: Beverly Mott
From: Bradenton, FL Message: Your hike has been a home-school assignment for my 14 year old son. It's a lesson in willpower and the ability to keep going despite the odds. He follows your progress. "Mom why'd he sit on the plaque?" Umm... maybe his butt was on fire from not having any toilet paper. :-) We're enjoying your progress, keep putting one foot in front of the other. Hope you enjoy the upcoming Unaka Mtn. (Beauty Spot) The bald is amazing. A sideways hike down to Rock Creek Park lands you showers/toilets. Got Here: An Article Date: Apr 6 2007 11:25AM

[Heater]

he gets his ass kicked. next question

Well geeeee, I am glad my last post sparked you brain functions enough to go back and look at the actual conversation instead of just spouting off meaningless dribble.

Back to the subject at hand.

So... If you care about or take pride in the AT and what it means to you, he "gets his ass kicked"... or at least get a a good talking to about etiquette. Right?

[Heater]

maybe you should go f ck yourself, cupcake.:)

I should have HUGE breasts too! That would really make life a lot simpler, wouldn't it. :D

[Alligator]

Among the most recent additions to the WB gallery.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15930&catid=member&imageuser=1495

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=15934&catid=member&imageuser=1495

[Lone Wolf]

So... If you care about or take pride in the AT and what it means to you, he "gets his ass kicked"... or at least get a a good talking to about etiquette. Right?

the AT is just a trail to me. i wouldn't fight and die for it. i'll let you hunt gatorgump down and give him a thumpin'. much ado about nothing really.

[Heater]

the AT is just a trail to me. i wouldn't fight and die for it. i'll let you hunt gatorgump down and give him a thumpin'. much ado about nothing really.

Since I live so far away, the only way I can do that is to write to his journal his chickensht journaler deleted the entry. He doesn't even know.

It's up to folks like you and it seems I cannot count on that. :mad:

[waterboy99]

Kissing any plaque may be dumb. But, could you see this happing. A hiker touches the plaque after gatorgump sat on it. Then before he/she starts hiking,the hiker takes out a bit of food to eat using the hand he touched the plaque with that gatorgump had just sat on with his bare bottom. Is it possiable that some might get sick ?. I think a lot of hikers touch the plaque before they start out, I did and my daughter did also. Anyone else ever touch the Springer Mt or Katahdin signs ?. I did and my daughter did also.

[Lone Wolf]

It's up to folks like you and it seems I cannot count on that. :mad:

don't lose sleep over his ass bareing. this thing will pass.

[Heater]

Kissing any plaque may be dumb. But, could you see this happing. A hiker touches the plaque after gatorgump sat on it. Then before he/she starts hiking,the hiker takes out a bit of food to eat using the hand he touched the plaque with that gatorgump had just sat on with his bare bottom. Is it possiable that some might get sick ?. I think a lot of hikers touch the plaque before they start out, I did and my daughter did also. Anyone else ever touch the Springer Mt or Katahdin signs ?. I did and my daughter did also.

A lot reading this thread or his journal might NOT for quite some time.
Is that right?

:-?

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Since I live so far away, the only way I can do that is to write to his journal his chickensht journaler deleted the entry. He doesn't even know.

It's up to folks like you and it seems I cannot count on that. :mad:I wouldn't worry too much - this fellow has upset enough people that he will be catching flack off and on from other hikers all the way to Maine if he makes it that far.

[Pirate]

he gets his ass kicked. next question

Who cares what you gate guards do (Marines). Just a bunch of Gomer Pyles..

[Lone Wolf]

Who cares what you gate guards do (Marines). Just a bunch of Gomer Pyles..

i love you too, dillweed.:)

[dixicritter]

OK people, He pulled his pants up two weeks ago... Time to Move on. Settle down before you give yourselves a heart attack or something. Once again we're making a huge deal out of a small issue if an issue at all.

That metal sign is none the worse for wear. SGT Rock says...


At least he didn't steal the sign and smuggle it out up his ass. I have a feeling that sign and the rock will be around long after gatorgump is long gone. Neither one is gonna get hurt by a man's bare ass.

By the way, it appears he was not even sitting on the original sign in the first place.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

:::: said with quivering lower lip and croc tear ::::
But I haven't photoshopped him on LW's Harley yet.

[STEVEM]

Is there a statute of limitations? The guy's in NC now. I just got back from the bash and hiking in NC. The hiker who (to me) is screwing up is Coyote. He's taking those giant fungis off the trees (I enjoy looking at them on the trees) and etching on them and leaving them in the shelters. Gator Rump, show some class like the national champs you are named after. One Pint, I left you a message in the Rock Gap journal. I was going to leave you my gator hat, but I knew it wouldn't stay there all that time.

Dixie, You're right again, time to move on. So, what do we do with this guy? To keep the theme of this thread alive maybe his name should be changed to Fungass.

[Tin Man]

Dixie, You're right again, time to move on. So, what do we do with this guy? To keep the theme of this thread alive maybe his name should be changed to Fungass.

Maybe we should write him and tell him we are sorry for being so critical; it was only an and ass shot after all. As a way of apology we could ask him to please post a picture of him mooning another "AT" treasure. See if he learned anything.

[freefall]

Maybe we should write him and tell him we are sorry for being so critical; it was only an and ass shot after all. As a way of apology we could ask him to please post a picture of him mooning another "AT" treasure. See if he learned anything.

Maybe we could all send him picture of our asses. :D

You know, to show support...:D

[EWS]

Um, all I got was a DD214, Honorable Discharge Certificate, and some piece of medal when I got out of the service. Seem to me there is next to nothing in common with honoring fallen veterans and some trail plaque. I'm biased though as a vet though, as someone who still works for/with the military today in Afghanistan, and know the kids getting hurt and killed. I know countless people have lost thier lives defending the trail, so you can go about you daily lives whining about stupid bullchit:rolleyes:

If your so concerned about catching a disease from kissing a plaque that is outdoors, just stay at home with your doors locked, the world is obviously much too dangerous of a place for you. Oh wait, you're trying to unite and play tattle-tell like a bunch of six year olds, who just got boogers wiped on you sleeves, so you can come outside play again with only the people you want in your treehouse club.

[Tin Man]

Maybe we could all send him picture of our asses. :D

You know, to show support...:D

Great idea! We could all line up for a group moonshot, say under the Cog Railway on MT. Washington, and show him how it's done. :D

[EWS]

Maybe we could all send him picture of our asses. :D

You know, to show support...:D

Count me in :D

[freefall]

If your so concerned about catching a disease from kissing a plaque that is outdoors, just stay at home with your doors locked, the world is obviously much too dangerous of a place for you. Oh wait, you're trying to unite and play tattle-tell like a bunch of six year olds, who just got boogers wiped on you sleeves, so you can come outside play again with only the people you want in your treehouse club.

I ain't worried about a disease but a little respect would be nice. And while I respect our troops (collectively) everywhere, I think all citizens should respect others. Not TRY and treat them like little children just because of their beliefs.

Just because you fought for this country, don't mean you get to dictate how we exercise our freedom. I think Musolini and Hitler tried that...:-?

[EWS]

I ain't worried about a disease but a little respect would be nice. And while I respect our troops (collectively) everywhere, I think all citizens should respect others. Not TRY and treat them like little children just because of their beliefs.

Just because you fought for this country, don't mean you get to dictate how we exercise our freedom. I think Musolini and Hitler tried that...:-?

I agree that respect is nice; not everyone is going to give it to your, or hold the same values you do. Exercising his freedom is what Gator-rump was doing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that his "freedom of expression" should be verboden.

What you're saying really seems a bit hipocritical to me. On one hand you want the right to do what you want, and for everyone else to do the same, as long as it fits into your box. :rolleyes: I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom by anymeans. GR did what he wanted and has caused no harm, except to some people sensibilites, who would have found something to bicker about anyways.

I'm just saying to quit whining about it and being an armchair activist. If you want to make positive difference, DO something to improve the trail i.e maintenance, make a dontation etc.(hiking it doesn't "your way" count); just don't sit on your butt and complain.

[freefall]

I agree that respect is nice; not everyone is going to give it to your, or hold the same values you do. Exercising his freedom is what Gator-rump was doing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that his "freedom of expression" should be verboden.

What you're saying really seems a bit hipocritical to me. On one hand you want the right to do what you want, and for everyone else to do the same, as long as it fits into your box. :rolleyes: I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom by anymeans. GR did what he wanted and has caused no harm, except to some people sensibilites, who would have found something to bicker about anyways.

I'm just saying to quit whining about it and being an armchair activist. If you want to make positive difference, DO something to improve the trail i.e maintenance, make a dontation etc.(hiking it doesn't "your way" count); just don't sit on your butt and complain.

While I don't agree with what he has done, I do respect his right to express himself. Many of us on WB do not like what he did but we would not stop him, even if present from doing what he felt he needed to do. We might have talked him out of it but that's different.

[ShakeyLeggs]

I agree that respect is nice; not everyone is going to give it to your, or hold the same values you do. Exercising his freedom is what Gator-rump was doing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that his "freedom of expression" should be verboden.

What you're saying really seems a bit hipocritical to me. On one hand you want the right to do what you want, and for everyone else to do the same, as long as it fits into your box. :rolleyes: I'm not trying to restrict anyone's freedom by anymeans. GR did what he wanted and has caused no harm, except to some people sensibilites, who would have found something to bicker about anyways.

I'm just saying to quit whining about it and being an armchair activist. If you want to make positive difference, DO something to improve the trail i.e maintenance, make a dontation etc.(hiking it doesn't "your way" count); just don't sit on your butt and complain.

Seems to me you need a bit of a refresher so here goes; (Oh yea this is from a decorated combat vet (Grenada Op Urgent Fury))

He exorcised his right by placing his behind on the plaque I and many others are exorsizing our by raising hell about it. END OF STORY...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[EWS]

While I don't agree with what he has done, I do respect his right to express himself. Many of us on WB do not like what he did but we would not stop him, even if present from doing what he felt he needed to do. We might have talked him out of it but that's different.

Now that makes sense, and is something I can agree with.

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Maybe we could all send him picture of our asses. :D

You know, to show support...:D::: reads Olympus' manual on how to use panoramic function :::

[Heater]

::: reads Olympus' manual on how to use panoramic function :::

Is your rearend really THAT BIG?!! :eek: :D

[Wanderingson]

Oh no--I think you blew it on that last response my friend

[rickb]

He exorcised his right by placing his behind on the plaqueMy fine-tuned (from Ironside on) legal mind believes:

1. Bare behind placed on rock in public park: Constitutional Right
2. Bare behind placed on Ikea table in one's own apartment: Constirutional Right
3. Bare behind placed on dining table in a public restaraunt: Reprehensibe and not Constitutional right.
4. Bare behind placed on American Flag: Reprehensibe but Constitutional Right

As for putting you bare behind on a plaque in a public park? That's is a tough one.

Where is The Weasel when we need him ????????

[Alligator]

I agree that respect is nice; not everyone is going to give it to your, or hold the same values you do. Exercising his freedom is what Gator-rump was doing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that his "freedom of expression" should be verboden.
...And just because you don't like what we are saying it should be verboden? Now you're being hypocritical. We're exercising our freedom of expression.
I'm just saying to quit whining about it and being an armchair activist. If you want to make positive difference, DO something to improve the trail i.e maintenance, make a dontation etc.(hiking it doesn't "your way" count); just don't sit on your butt and complain.W_T_F do you even know about what others may be doing for the trail? Trying to get this yahoo to understand a little bit about trail culture is actually a step in the right direction. Or should we wait for him to slap his buttprints on the sneeze guard of the next AYCE?

[Two Speed]

::: reads Olympus' manual on how to use panoramic function :::: : : Two Speed whispers to FD : : :

Ya gotta use the proprietary Olympus chip in my Stylus 300 or the panarama function won't work. Jes' sayin', not trying to egg anyone or anything. :p

[EWS]

And just because you don't like what we are saying it should be verboden? Now you're being hypocritical. We're exercising our freedom of expression.

I think the consensus was clear about 10 pages back that his actions weren't appreciated. Fifty people repeating what someone else says in different words, just turns into Charlie Brown "Wa wa wa" talk. Thanks for contributing again.


W_T_F do you even know about what others may be doing for the trail? Trying to get this yahoo to understand a little bit about trail culture is actually a step in the right direction. Or should we wait for him to slap his buttprints on the sneeze guard of the next AYCE?

If one or two people would've have said something constructive to him, it probably would've made a more significant change in his attitude. I’m guessing that people spamming his trail journal with criticism and insulting has done little to change him in a positive way, given his apparent non-confimist attitude. He could probably careless at this point about what is said on here and finds humor in it. Oh, and I did get a chuckle out of your post. Thanks.

[STEVEM]

Lets say Chris Hansen and film his crew had stepped out from behind a tree with the big question: So what brings you here today?

Can anyone seriously believe that Gatorgump would have a legitimate and acceptable explanation for his actions?

[Alligator]

I think the consensus was clear about 10 pages back that his actions weren't appreciated. Fifty people repeating what someone else says in different words, just turns into Charlie Brown "Wa wa wa" talk. Thanks for contributing again.Wawawa it works both ways;) .

If one or two people would've have said something constructive to him, it probably would've made a more significant change in his attitude. I’m guessing that people spamming his trail journal with criticism and insulting has done little to change him in a positive way, given his apparent non-confimist attitude. He could probably careless at this point about what is said on here and finds humor in it. Oh, and I did get a chuckle out of your post. Thanks.Many folks did say constructive things to him. Almost all of them were removed.

I get a chuckle out of seeing that you have spent the majority of your time here on this thread and complaining about being banned from trailplace:rolleyes: .

[oldfivetango]

Sorry to admit this-I have been reading GG's trail journal along
with that of his partner,Barking Spider.I notice that last entry for the
Spider is April 6 and Gumps was April 1(I think).So that means the
following to this old country boy-either GG has quit hiking or he has
quit posting or BS is a good 5 days ahead of him by now.I note that BS
had a close call with hypothermia.I would find it amusing if it were not so
frightening because down "here" most folks know to come in out of the rain.
The worst thing is that after he made that mistake there were people he
encountered that did not have the decency to help someone in distress and
that is more than a little dicsoncerting.The most important thing to do out
there is to stay warm and dry.Make the miles tomorrow.
Oldfivetango

[cphobes]

Sorry to admit this-I have been reading GG's trail journal along
with that of his partner,Barking Spider.I notice that last entry for the
Spider is April 6 and Gumps was April 1(I think).So that means the
following to this old country boy-either GG has quit hiking or he has
quit posting or BS is a good 5 days ahead of him by now.I note that BS
had a close call with hypothermia.I would find it amusing if it were not so
frightening because down "here" most folks know to come in out of the rain.
The worst thing is that after he made that mistake there were people he
encountered that did not have the decency to help someone in distress and
that is more than a little dicsoncerting.The most important thing to do out
there is to stay warm and dry.Make the miles tomorrow.
Oldfivetango

FYI, both have been updated and he's taken the beatin' in stride.

-Stephen

[ShakeyLeggs]

I also noted from his last entry that TJ's has made him remove the pictures. Looks like he is having a great time, I hold no ill will towards him and wish him continued enjoyment on his hike.

[Tin Man]

I also noted from his last entry that TJ's has made him remove the pictures. Looks like he is having a great time, I hold no ill will towards him and wish him continued enjoyment on his hike.

I hope he is not sniveling!

[ZEKE #2]

What happened to HYOH?

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

It has been amended to HYOH - DSYA (Don't show your assets)

[Gray Blazer]

It has been amended to HYOH - DSYA (Don't show your assets)

Good one!!!

[HickHiker]

HYOH. Psyching out a fellow hiker is bad form. GatorGump’s humor is bringing more attention to AT hiking than we’ve had in a long time. The Prunella Prunepits of hiking can do their own sterile hike, but make room for people like GatorGump who aren’t marching in lock step.

To GatorGump: :welcome

[Heater]

HYOH. Psyching out a fellow hiker is bad form. GatorGump’s humor is bringing more attention to AT hiking than we’ve had in a long time.

Wrong kind of attention. It is the kind of junvenile behavior that gets services closed to those that follow not to mention the disrespect thing.

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