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Jack Tarlin
08-29-2007, 14:41
I've been home for a few days now, here's what's going on in town:
First off, the place is full of hikers. We've got another two weeks or so of high traffic, then things'll slow down (Unless hikers are very fast, they pretty much have to be here by 10 September if they're going to make it to Katahdin by 15 October).
One surprise is the large number of late Southbounders. For some reason, a lot of folks seem to have started late this year in Maine; yesterday there were more SOBO's in town than NOBO's which is unusual. Also, there's been a goodly ammount of flippers, too. In any case, anyone hiking South in Vermont or Massachusetts in the next few weeks willl have some excellent company.
Not a whole lot of changes in town. Lodging is still a problem tho there was one frat house taking in 4 folks a night. A lot of people have been staying at the Sunset Motel just out of town, which is fine, especially if you split it 2 or 3 ways. Some out-of-town hostels are also getting business and getting favorable reports. Most folks have been tenting in the woods just past the soccer field north of town; police have reported no problems all year, tho folks could be better about picking up their trash.
The new store "Hanover Outdoors" which is right on the Trail has been a great help to hikers, tho folks who need a full-service outfitter ride the free bus to nearby West Lebanon, where there's an EMS and an LL Bean in the same mall.
Food-wise, Ramunto's Pizza is popular, especially thanx to their outdoor patio and cold beer, never mind the free slice they're giving to thru-hikers. EBA's is still the place to go to get the bang for your buck, with the Monday Pizza buffet and the Thursday night Fajita Buffet drawing crowds. The Dirt Cowboy still has the best cup of coffee on the Trail and 5-Olde is still the best place to have a drink, watch the ball game, or to have a good dinner. A few places have told me of problems this year with really filthy hikers; it'd be nice if people made at least some sort of attempt to clean up a bit before dining out, but getting one's self or one's clothes clean isn't always possible in Hanover now that the frat houses are pretty much closed to hikers.
Have had hikers out at my place every night since I got back, all wonderful people. It's not as crazy as last year when we had around 200 folks pass thru, but even on a smaller scale we're having fun with the guests. We're even taking dogs this year so we must be mellowing out a bit (we've had a problem in the past mostly involving house pets being eaten, that sort of thing). One new addition are the two monster chickens that one of the tenants obtained somewhere. They follow people around the property, clucking, begging food and bothering folks, including marching into tents and tarps, which is pretty amusing to watch, especially if there's someone sleeping in them at the time. In any case, the birds are fat, obnoxious, loud, and annoying, so we have named one of them Michael, and the other one is Moore. I think they're headed for the stewpot at some point if the local Great Horned Owl doesn't get 'em first. Kitty Kat, who is otherwise a great birder, is smart enough to give them a wide berth, I guess he's been pecked half to death once too often; Oh, one curious thing......I noticed that Michael & Moore will happily eat virtually anything you throw in front of them; just for the helluva it, I tossed them a Chicken McNugget the other day. Sad to say, they ate one of their cousins with great enthusiasm, which was pretty funny to watch but sorta frightening. I'm not sure I wanna turn my back on these guys; cannibal chickens are a scary concept.
Anyway, hiker season is winding down, the days are getting shorter, and the nights much cooler. Am planning to hang around for a bit as the folks I walked with in April and May will be passing thru this week and I'm hoping to see them. Anyone passing thru should certainly drop me a line, otherwise, hope to see some of you folks up in Maine in a few weeks.
sherrill
08-29-2007, 15:09
Watching a chicken eat a Chicken McNugget: There's something oddly sick, yet beautiful, to that image.
Thanks for making me laugh on an otherwise kinda crappy day, Jack!
Nearly Normal
08-29-2007, 15:42
They'll eat you if you fall down dead. Well...... maybe not all at once.
Nearly Normal
Blue Jay
08-29-2007, 16:29
Dearest Baltimore,
Please stop starting threads badmouthing the NY Yankees. Granted most of their fans are beerbellied, airheaded, bozos and on the rare occasions that I see them on TV I watch a few innings hoping to see someone from any team hit a grandslam against them. The fact remains that for many years Derek Jeter's Aunt Rose has been giving free beers to thru's at Greenwood Lake. In fact, considering the fact that you've spent decades in every bar on the AT, I'd be willing to bet you have recieved more than one of them. NYC is not on anyone's top 10 list of AT trail towns, however it is a trail "town". Many thrus from around the world go there for narcotic resupply. Boston is not only not on the AT but it's "freedom trail" sucks, you can't even get a tick bite.
Old Grouse
08-29-2007, 16:44
My chickens like to catch mice & eat 'em.
Time To Fly 97
08-29-2007, 17:31
Dearest Baltimore,
The fact remains that for many years Derek Jeter's Aunt Rose has been giving free beers to thru's at Greenwood Lake.
Jeter's new house on Greenwood Lake is awesome.
Happy hiking!
TTF
Watching a chicken eat a Chicken McNugget: There's something oddly sick, yet beautiful, to that image.
Thanks for making me laugh on an otherwise kinda crappy day, Jack!
Chickens as well as pigs are canabilistic...............in fact there are many types of animals that will eat their own.
Jack Tarlin
08-29-2007, 19:52
Blue Jay:
Calm yourself. While I make no bones about my utter contempt and loathing for the New York Yankees, I think Derek Jeter is a fine young man, a consumate ball-player, and an all around good guy. If I could add ONE player to the Red Sox roster, it'd be Jeter (with Mariano Rivera being second). I'm sure Jeter's Auntie is a great lady, too, but no, I've never had a cold one with her. Sounds fun, tho. Will have to find her next time I'm in the neighborhood, as well as having a medium rare steak with Time To Fly '97, who knows where to find or grill a mean one, and is about as good company on and off the Trail as anyone could possibly ask for.
camojack
08-30-2007, 02:17
Baseball and football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And, as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values. And maybe how those values have changed over the last 150 years. For those reasons I enjoy comparing baseball and football:
Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.
Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park. The baseball park!
Football is played on a GRIDIRON, in a STADIUM, sometimes called SOLDIER FIELD or WAR MEMORIAL STADIUM.
Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything is dying.
In football you wear a helmet
In baseball you wear a cap.
Football is concerned with downs. "What down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups. "Who's up? Are you up? I'm not up! He's up!"
In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.
In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.
Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting, and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.
Football is played in any kind of weather: Rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...can't see the game, don't know if there is a game going on; mud on the field...can't read the uniforms, can't read the yard markers, the struggle will continue!
In baseball if it rains, we don't go out to play. "I can't go out! It's raining out!"
Baseball has the seventh-inning stretch.
Football has the two-minute warning
Baseball has no time limit: "We don't know when it's gonna end!"
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end "even if we have to go to sudden death."
In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling. Emotions may run high or low, but there's not that much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you were perfectly capable of taking the life of a fellow human being
And finally, the objectives of the the two games are completely different:
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
"In football Woody Hayes wears a baseball cap on the sidelines. Ever think what Walter Alston would look like wearing a football helmet in the dugout?" I have that set on my I-pod and listen to it regular. Carlin is a genius! And a Nuyawka!
Gray Blazer
08-30-2007, 08:37
Hey Jack, your report is better than the news from Lake Woebegon. Keep it up brother. Glad to hear your "safe at home".
Lone Wolf
08-30-2007, 08:43
A few places have told me of problems this year with really filthy hikers; it'd be nice if people made at least some sort of attempt to clean up a bit before dining out, but getting one's self or one's clothes clean isn't always possible in Hanover now that the frat houses are pretty much closed to hikers.
what do you expect from snooty , high dollar locals? I suggest an illegal bridge jump into the Connecticut river before entering town
Do they "warsh" off the money before putting it in the register?
Lone Wolf
08-30-2007, 09:11
Do they "warsh" off the money before putting it in the register?
there ain't much cash in that town. most use daddy's gold card.:)
I was talkin' dirty "Hiker Cash"!
I was reading a book review about an SF classic (of sorts) today, and the cover of one of the books made me think of this thread. Dangerous chickens indeed!!!
http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Food%20of%20the%20Gods%20classics%20illustrated.jp g
If ever given the chance, check out the PBS documentary "The Natural History of the Chicken" Not THAT is some funny, funny, stuff......yet disturbing at the same time. MMmmmmm????
Jack Tarlin
09-06-2007, 17:50
Been a week or so since I started this thread.....been a beautiful week in New Hampshire with a few more perfect days predicted.
There are still plenty of hikers in town, saw at least nine today, all determined to finish by mid-October.
Quite a lively crew at 5-Olde last night to see the Sox game. Word to the wise.....it's generally considered a bad thing to bring your own potables into a licensed establishment, so don't do it! There are a few hikers who shall remain nameless that are very lucky they weren't tossed out the door last night! Likewise, the Dartmouth Outing Club is a lousy place to drink a beer, surely inventive hikers can find more suitable spots. Likewise, anyone who decides to spend the night there is in for an unpleasant surprise around 2 in the morning. The building is patrolled regularly.
Otherwise, everyone passing thru town ben great, pretty much. Oh, one interesting thing.....a hiker who will stay nameless decided to give me a whole ration of s*** about the Port Clinton incident, basically arguing that too much had been made out of this on the Internet and elewhere, and that he somehow blamed me.
He then started whining about the fact that it costs 99 bucks to get a motel room in Hanover, and wasn't it a damned shame that the Dartmouth dorms no longer took in hikers for free. He was furious at the students who'd made this decision; he evidently failed to find any connection between bad hiker behavior (a la Port Clinton) and the students' decision to close their doors.
I've pretty much stopped taking in folks, too, partly because I don't have the facilities (I'm living in a shared space and not everyone is crazy about hikers), and partly because some of the "guests" haven't been that wonderful. I honestly don't know how people like Rob Bird or Tom Levardi or the guys in the Cabin in Andover can keep doing this year after year, I know that sooner or later I'd take one of my guests down to the creek bank and drown him.
But a few comments about those who are lucky enough to find a friendly local who you hear is taking in hikers:
*The first thing out of your mouth should probably NOT be an announcement
that what you're looking for is a good place to "get f****d up for three
days!" This will generally not elate your prospective host.
*Don't bring other people back to your host's place unless you absolutely
know that it's cool. Cuz it usually isn't.
*Don't draw maps to your host's place or give instructions on how to get
there. The friendliest Trail Angel in the world is probably gonna get turned
off when he comes home from work and finds five people he doesn't know
hanging out at his place.
*If your host asks you something simple, try and obey this. I.e. if the sign
on the washing machine says "Machine is tricky, please ASK before using!!"
that does NOT mean "I'm gonna do my host a favor and wash my own
clothes!!" Or if there's a sign on a bedroom door that says "Private!", well
this probably means that your host doesn't want to open that door and find
you asleep on his bed. Likewise, don't assume that all the food in the fridge
is there just for you; don't assume that household supplies are there for
you to hike out with; don't asume that your host really enjoys cleaning the
shower six times a day or doing other people's dishes. I assure you he
doesn't.
That's about all that comes to mind right now, but I'm sure I can think of more; in any case, there are a bunch of reasons that Casa Jack is pretty much closed to hikers.
Oh, did I mention that in New Hampshire it's generally considered bad form to clean your boots with a brand-new bath towel? Must be a regional thing, but, sorry, that's just how it is.
All for now. It's Fajita Night again at Everything But Anchovies (quick week!) and then another ball game at 5-Olde at seven. I wonder what the Stupid Hiker Tricks will be tonight, but I'm sure it'l be entertaining. :D
TinAbbey
09-06-2007, 19:59
where can i find out more about the port clinton incident
Appalachian Tater
09-06-2007, 21:04
Here:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26229
But please don't post to the thread, let it stay dead, no need for another zombie bouncing around! There is likely nothing more to be said on the subject.
Trillium
09-07-2007, 08:10
Word to the wise.....it's generally considered a bad thing to bring your own potables into a licensed establishment, so don't do it! There are a few hikers who shall remain nameless that are very lucky they weren't tossed out the door last night!
But a few comments about those who are lucky enough to find a friendly local who you hear is taking in hikers:
*The first thing out of your mouth should probably NOT be an announcement
that what you're looking for is a good place to "get f****d up for three
days!" This will generally not elate your prospective host.
*Don't bring other people back to your host's place unless you absolutely
know that it's cool. Cuz it usually isn't.
*Don't draw maps to your host's place or give instructions on how to get
there. The friendliest Trail Angel in the world is probably gonna get turned
off when he comes home from work and finds five people he doesn't know
hanging out at his place.
*If your host asks you something simple, try and obey this. I.e. if the sign
on the washing machine says "Machine is tricky, please ASK before using!!"
that does NOT mean "I'm gonna do my host a favor and wash my own
clothes!!" Or if there's a sign on a bedroom door that says "Private!", well
this probably means that your host doesn't want to open that door and find
you asleep on his bed. Likewise, don't assume that all the food in the fridge
is there just for you; don't assume that household supplies are there for
you to hike out with; don't asume that your host really enjoys cleaning the
shower six times a day or doing other people's dishes. I assure you he
doesn't.
That's about all that comes to mind right now, but I'm sure I can think of more; in any case, there are a bunch of reasons that Casa Jack is pretty much closed to hikers.
Oh, did I mention that in New Hampshire it's generally considered bad form to clean your boots with a brand-new bath towel? Must be a regional thing, but, sorry, that's just how it is.
All for now. It's Fajita Night again at Everything But Anchovies (quick week!) and then another ball game at 5-Olde at seven. I wonder what the Stupid Hiker Tricks will be tonight, but I'm sure it'l be entertaining. :DI'm hoping that these knuckleheads are in the vast minority of hikers; but pity that these few are ruining it for the rest. :mad:
I don't know where these knuckleheads live, but in Michigan you can't BYOB into an establishment with a liquor license nor can you take a drink out of such establishment. Anyone doing thusly puts the proprietor's license at jeopardy. Pretty dang self-absorbed.
As far as the abominable behavior while a guest at someone's abode, have these knuckleheads never been taught that you don't touch or use someone else's property unless specifically given permission to do so. What shameful behavior; their parents would be likely be mortified if they knew.
camojack
09-07-2007, 08:18
Oh, one interesting thing.....a hiker who will stay nameless decided to give me a whole ration of s*** about the Port Clinton incident, basically arguing that too much had been made out of this on the Internet and elewhere, and that he somehow blamed me.
I blame you too. :eek:
Jeter's new house on Greenwood Lake is awesome.
Happy hiking!
TTF
I caught a MONSTER Chained Pickerel off his home when I was a young boy. In fact, I used to fish off of that property all the time as a kid. We kept our boat in the marina right next store, and the State Line Trail (which connects to the AT) is a short distance from his driveway. It's a house I always wanted to own. But what kid wouldn't want to live in a castle on a lake?
PS: The Red Sox suck. Go Yankees!
Time To Fly 97
09-07-2007, 09:00
It is a great area and changing fast. I live on Upper Greenwood Lake. The pickerel are waiting for you if you make it up this way again!!
Happy hiking!
TTF+
It is a great area and changing fast. I live on Upper Greenwood Lake. The pickerel are waiting for you if you make it up this way again!!
Happy hiking!
TTF+
My family has had a cabin on Greenwood Lake (Lakeside) for more than 60 years, and I lived in Warwick from '89-'03.
Time To Fly 97
09-07-2007, 09:16
My wife just sang at an open mike place last Friday in Warwick. Cool town!
Happy hiking!
TTF
Dances with Mice
09-07-2007, 10:40
*The first thing out of your mouth should probably NOT be an announcement that what you're looking for is a good place to "get f****d up for three days!" OK, duly noted, I'm sorry.
Wait! I don't think I've ever been in Hanover. Not for three days, I'm pretty sure about that.
Earl Grey
09-14-2007, 11:42
Hanover was an awesome town. The day I was there it was a really nice day and I just laid on the green for hours and then stayed at Tiggers Tree House Hostel up the trail a few miles. Ate at Lou's in the morning, then Ramuntos in the evening and lots of ice cream during the day. One of the great true trail towns. Here we are eating at Ramuntos complete with old fashioned looking picture, just screwing with the camera. Earl Grey, Jersey Fresh, 5 String and Macguyver here.
2312
Blissful
09-26-2007, 20:07
Hanover is busy tonight - the Democratic debate at Dartmouth college. I woke up from my nap when I heard the announcement and thought - Hey, I was there!
While the news guys were standing on the college green, I was thinking how the AT is just steps away from them and they should take a hike and check it out.
I was also looking for Baltimore Jack and his sunglasses in the background at the MSNBC interviews.
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 14:47
Interesting evening.
Ended up not going, went to see "3:10 to Yuma" instead.
The town was a circus all day, truly an insane asylum.
Watched the debate at 5-Olde. General conensus was Richardson came out the best; Obama seemed really bland and hardly the clean and articulate fellow I expected. Well, he was clean, anyway. Edwards did OK; Hillary was just arrogant and seemed to think that repeatedly saying "I'm not going to answer that question!" made her look good. Um, no.
Best moments of the night were provided by Gravel and Kucinich who reminded me of several of the loonier posters on the political threads. Kucinich advocating lowering the voting age to 16 took the cake......yeah , Dennis, I really want someone who hasn't got a driver's license yet, can't go to an R-Rated movie by himself, and in some places, can't even buy a cigarette lighter in a convenience store.......yeah, I really want this kid voting.
And they wonder why people don't take politicians seriously. :D
Oh, met and talked briefly with Chris Matthews, Joe Biden, and Chris Dodd.
Saw Edwards on the street but didn't talk to him.
Matthews was charming as always, Dodd looked like a badly embalmed Irish bartender, and Biden was an amiable block of wood.
Edwards was patting his hair.
No kidding.
Dang, sounds like an opportunity missed to invite a bunch of long-distance hikers fresh off the trail to crowd around and ask important questions like those posted on WB. :-?
Blue Jay
09-27-2007, 15:42
I really want someone who hasn't got a driver's license yet, can't go to an R-Rated movie by himself, and in some places, can't even buy a cigarette lighter in a convenience store.......yeah, I really want this kid voting.
OK, I'll bite. In what possible positive way does having a driver's licence, going to R-Rated movies and buying a cigarette lighter have on voting skill? This is like saying Red Sox Fans should not be allowed to vote (and they shouldn't) due to the fact that they almost blew a 14 game lead.
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 15:46
Um, Jay, my point was that we don't let children do a lot of things, because we don't think they're old enough, wise enough, or mature enough to do certain things.
And one of those things is being trusted with a ballot.
Oh, and as the Sox are about to take the American East pennant any day now, your remark above is kinda silly.
Oh, and as the Sox are about to take the American East pennant any day now, your remark above is kinda silly.
So what, the Yankees will slug them into oblivion soon enough. :D
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 15:53
Yeah, just like they did in '04........ :eek:
Yeah, just like they did in '04........ :eek:
That was clearly the case of the blind squirrel finding a nut once in a while. :D
Anyway, Yankees seem to have the fire in their belly lately. I hope they get to play each other. It will be interesting. Best of luck.
Blue Jay
09-27-2007, 16:17
Um, Jay, my point was that we don't let children do a lot of things, because we don't think they're wise enough, or mature enough to do certain things. And one of those things is being trusted with a ballot.
Using that argument clearly the entire voting population of the country should not be trusted with a ballot. I'm not saying I care if they are given the vote or not, most wouldn't use it anyway.
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 16:20
Well, we actually used to have literacy and proficiency tests and that sort of thing. Then you liberals did away with them cuz it was cutting into your base. :D
(That was a joke, Teej, Weasel, Skyline, Hopeful, Boulder, etc.
Calm yourselves).
TJ aka Teej
09-27-2007, 16:24
It's clear the Yankees are the best baseball team money can buy.
Rooting for them is like rooting for General Motors.
I've been a Red Sox fan since Ted Williams taught me to hit 40 years ago.*
*OK, it was just a film they showed on TV during a rain delay. But it worked for me, and it worked for my kids too!
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 16:28
Living proof that when it comes to important things, Teej and I agree more than you might think. :D
Well, we actually used to have literacy and proficiency tests and that sort of thing. Then you liberals did away with them cuz it was cutting into your base. :D
(That was a joke, Teej, Weasel, Skyline, Hopeful, Boulder, etc.
Calm yourselves).
I thought the tests were eliminated because the politicians (of either party) couldn't pass them. :D
It's clear the Yankees are the best baseball team money can buy.
Rooting for them is like rooting for General Motors.
Spoken like a true Yankee basher. I am not a rabid fan and don't really care that much except to get the Boston fans going. ;) Besides, I think Toyota is number one now.
Footslogger
09-27-2007, 16:43
Sometimes I'm SO glad to live way out in BFE where we don't have professional sports ...
'Slogger
Jim Adams
09-27-2007, 16:51
Um, Jay, my point was that we don't let children do a lot of things, because we don't think they're old enough, wise enough, or mature enough to do certain things.
And one of those things is being trusted with a ballot.
Oh, and as the Sox are about to take the American East pennant any day now, your remark above is kinda silly.
Jack,
Although you and I agree on almost everything and I also wouldn't want to see 16 y/o's get the vote, I also don't see the justice that an 18 y/o can't drink alcohol but can be sent to Iraq.:-?
sorry...just had to say...hope I didn't start something.
geek
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 17:15
I quite agree with you.
Amred Forces personnel should be allowed to drink on-base at 18.
But everyone? Nope.
I livein a college town and I see drunk teenagers on the street, or on campus every single day.
Most 18 year olds shouldn't be drinking.
This goes for 19 and 20 year olds, too.
You always hear that "no drinking at 18" argument from people who were legally allowed to drink at 18.:-?
I had a babysitter who was about to turn 18 in 1986?? and she was pissed b/c they changed the law right before she made the cutoff or maybe she was legal and then not legal, I forget. That was funny to me until I was about 18.
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 17:24
I know people who've lost children because of drunken car wrecks.
Not funny at all.
I know people who've lost children because of drunken car wrecks.
Not funny at all.
Me too, but the legal drinking age didn't affect the outcome.
Lone Wolf
09-27-2007, 17:28
I know people who've lost children because of drunken car wrecks.
Not funny at all.
me and you moved to trail towns with bars so we don't need to drive. you walk and i ride my bicycle
Jim Adams
09-27-2007, 17:33
I wasn't legal to drink at 18 either and it wasn't a problem.
The drinking age of 21 still doesn't change the drunk driver problem...most that I see on my job are older adults that should know better.
My take was that you should be an adult before being sent to Iraq.
geek
I know people who've lost children because of drunken car wrecks.
Not funny at all.
1)Sorry, I didn't know you guys were having a serious debate over here. It was meant to be a light-hearted shot at older guys telling young folks what not to do, namely the very things they did in thier own youth.
2)Nobody said anything about driving a car drunk until you did.
I know people who've lost children because of drunken car wrecks.
Not funny at all.
It's not the drinking that's the problem; it's the driving. If I ran the world, there would be no drinking age, but driving would be severely restricted.:D
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 22:34
I dunno, Marta.
I live in a college town.
I've seen plenty of people who are out on foot, drunk as monkeys, and are still pretty scary, despite being carless.
Oh and that's just the Dartmouth students.
Don't even get me started on the Southbounders...... :D
_terrapin_
09-27-2007, 22:37
I've seen plenty of people who are out on foot, drunk as monkeys, and are still pretty scary, despite being carless.
Agreed, drunkards are generally far more obnoxious than stoners. ;)
Jack Tarlin
09-27-2007, 22:41
Wouldn't know, Terrapin. I don't spend much time with stoners. :rolleyes:
I've seen plenty of people who are out on foot, drunk as monkeys, and are still pretty scary, despite being carless.
Don't even get me started on the Southbounders...... :D
If I'm walking along the edge of the road, I'd rather have a drunk stagger into me that hit me with his car. But maybe that's just me.
SOBOs do have a proud tradition to uphold. I think it has something to do with the long, dark winter nights and the solitude.
Lone Wolf
09-27-2007, 22:47
SOBOs do have a proud tradition to uphold. I think it has something to do with the long, dark winter nights and the solitude.
right on Marta. I did a SOBO 10 years ago. loved it. the only way to hike the AT. took me 10 years to "get" it. :)
_terrapin_
09-27-2007, 22:54
Wouldn't know, Terrapin. I don't spend much time with stoners. :rolleyes:
Nor I with drunkards.
Northbounders, Southbounders. Drunkards, Stoners. Hammockers, Tenters, Shelter mouse eaters. Hikers with/without sticks, poles, cell phones, weapons, dogs, yada yada yada. I am going hiking...have fun.
Lone Wolf
09-27-2007, 23:08
Tinny. SOBOs rule. End of discussion. :sun
Tinny. SOBOs rule. End of discussion. :sun
Agreed.
So do tenters, hiking stick users, and water filterers. :sun
Lone Wolf
09-27-2007, 23:19
1 of 3. you're almost there
_terrapin_
09-27-2007, 23:32
I am going hiking...have fun.
Will you be drinking, smoking, or abstaining? Remember, virtue is its own punishment.
Will you be drinking, smoking, or abstaining? Remember, virtue is its own punishment.
My hiking partner and brother, Bartender, is known to carry some Scotch, and I may have some more stashed away if he runs out. A nice Cabernet is usually poured on steak night. Naturally, we only consume enough for medicinal purposes and don't drink and hike. ;)
1 of 3. you're almost there
Nobody is perfect, present company excluded.
Blissful
09-27-2007, 23:56
right on Marta. I did a SOBO 10 years ago. loved it. the only way to hike the AT. took me 10 years to "get" it. :)
Hey Lone Wolf, just wondering why you made the comment in the water sources Straight Forward that no one should be hiking long distance now (?). You know that lots of SOBOS are out there right now and dealing with low water sources here in the south. Many I know could not leave until June because of snow late on Katahdin, so are forced to be where they are at on their hike. Just curious. I thought perhaps you might be against SOBOing it.
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28071
Lone Wolf
09-28-2007, 00:02
Hey Lone Wolf, just wondering why you made the comment in the water sources Straight Forward that no one should be hiking long distance now (?). You know that lots of SOBOS are out there right now and dealing with low water sources here in the south. Many I know could not leave until June because of snow late on Katahdin, so are forced to be where they are at on their hike. Just curious. I thought perhaps you might be against SOBOing it.
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28071
by now any SOBOs know how and where to find water. i figured it out the first 200 miles i ever walked north. so many roads, so many homes. just knock and ask. the AT ain't wilderness. dying of thirst ain't gonna happen