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whitefoot_hp
09-06-2007, 20:33
what is the lightest food in terms of oz/ to calories?

Frolicking Dinosaurs
09-06-2007, 20:39
Fats - like olive oil.

wrongway_08
09-06-2007, 20:54
table spoon of pure sesame oil = 130 calories
table spoon of olive oil = 120 calories
table spoon of butter = 80 calories

Appalachian Tater
09-06-2007, 20:57
carbohydrates and proteins have 4 cal/gm
fats has 9 cal/g

Dr O
09-06-2007, 21:12
fat is where it's at :D

Franco
09-06-2007, 21:43
For some reason when discussing food I always forget two types that I usually have with me : olive oil and parmesan cheese ( the Italian stuff, not the italian type...).
Something that Is a bit of a challenge for me is to find instant soup that is not 97% fat free and does not have MSG in on form or another.
Franco
Fats is where it's AT, what about the PCT ?

Footslogger
09-06-2007, 22:52
what is the lightest food in terms of oz/ to calories?

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Stovetop Stuffing mix ...

'Slogger

RedneckRye
09-06-2007, 22:58
Bacon cheeseburger, pub fries, chocolate milkshake, and a 22oz. yuengling right before leaving town. Also a lot tastier than anything in my pack.

mobileman
09-07-2007, 01:18
What do you cook stovetop stuffing in? Mac & Cheese eetc. They call for 2,3,4, cups of water. Other foods that call for too much water?

Appalachian Tater
09-07-2007, 01:20
You can just dump hot water into the foil-lined bag the stuffing comes in. You don't have to cook it and the water doesn't have to be boiling. You're just over-hydrating dessicated bread crumbs.

mweinstone
09-07-2007, 01:24
olive oil soaked fudge rolled in sesemee seeds and toothpicked to a five pound block of pure labratory quality seal blubber. with a side of elvis buttered bacon sandwitches. and a cool glass of knob creek with a whole roasted chicken in it. dehydrate, powder and capsulate. take as many as you can as often as you can. best lightest food!

LIhikers
09-07-2007, 08:43
Bacon cheeseburger, pub fries, chocolate milkshake, and a 22oz. yuengling right before leaving town. Also a lot tastier than anything in my pack.

Except for the milkshake this menu sounds like the lunch I had at the Doyle Hotel a few years back.:)

Footslogger
09-07-2007, 10:20
What do you cook stovetop stuffing in? Mac & Cheese eetc. They call for 2,3,4, cups of water. Other foods that call for too much water?

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I use the "chicken" version of Stovetop Stuffing mix. I get the fire going under about 2 cups of water and then add the stuffing mix. A couple minutes later I add a packet of chicken chunks to the mix.

Nice thing about the stuffing mix is that has seasoning built in so you really don't have to add anything.

Another option is to use a different variety of Stovetop and then add some sausage or pepperoni.

One of my favorite meals and about as light as it gets. I repackage the Stovetop into 2 zip locks and therefore get 2 meals per box.

'Slogger

Erin
09-07-2007, 11:20
I am also voting for stove top stuffing and bag 0' chicken dinner. We thought it was our best dinner on our AT section hike. We used the cornbread stove top stuffing flavor and it was as if we were having Thanksgiving Dinner on the trail. One bag of each will feed two people.

Mags
09-07-2007, 12:26
Is to try to have 100 calories per oz.

Squeeze butter or olive oil is a great way to increase the calorie quotient of food.

SGT Rock
09-07-2007, 12:31
olive oil soaked fudge rolled in sesemee seeds and toothpicked to a five pound block of pure labratory quality seal blubber. with a side of elvis buttered bacon sandwitches. and a cool glass of knob creek with a whole roasted chicken in it. dehydrate, powder and capsulate. take as many as you can as often as you can. best lightest food!
That sounds like my kind of trail snack. You win.

Do you know where I can get some of that :banana

jettjames
09-07-2007, 12:35
spam singles 3 oz and 300 calories or so and dam, if spam don't taste good!

Appalachian Tater
09-07-2007, 12:35
I am also voting for stove top stuffing and bag 0' chicken dinner. We thought it was our best dinner on our AT section hike. We used the cornbread stove top stuffing flavor and it was as if we were having Thanksgiving Dinner on the trail. One bag of each will feed two people.


It's even better with dried cranberries dumped in the bag.

jettjames
09-07-2007, 12:43
stuffing and bacon was one of my fav's on my hike this year.
the pre-cooked bacon is awesome, keeps forever and is loaded with calories.
just rip up 5-10 slices into the stuffing
also the real bacon bits is good, again, just dump it into the bag
one of my fav's was sesame noodles from lipton with 5 slices of precooked bacon.
mmmmmmmm.

pt

Footslogger
09-07-2007, 12:52
It's even better with dried cranberries dumped in the bag.

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Never thought of that ...gonna have to start carrying a ziplock full of craisins from now on !!

Thanks,

'Slogger

Johnny Thunder
09-07-2007, 12:53
Bacon wrapped bacon deap fried in moose fat smothered in peantubutter fluff (re-hydrated) wrapped in bacon on a bacon bun.

Johnny

whitefoot_hp
09-07-2007, 13:45
stuffing and bacon was one of my fav's on my hike this year.
the pre-cooked bacon is awesome, keeps forever and is loaded with calories.
just rip up 5-10 slices into the stuffing
also the real bacon bits is good, again, just dump it into the bag
one of my fav's was sesame noodles from lipton with 5 slices of precooked bacon.
mmmmmmmm.

pt
will just any kind of store bought pre cooked bacon keep well?

Appalachian Tater
09-07-2007, 14:21
will just any kind of store bought pre cooked bacon keep well?

Yes, as long as it's prepackaged. Sometimes you find it in the aisle with the salad dressing. It's great with tortellini.

sweetpeastu
09-07-2007, 16:13
i put too much water in my stuffing...and it was mushy. The chicken breast was good though and the stuffing was actually hot enough to warm the chicken.

Heater
09-07-2007, 16:30
That sounds like my kind of trail snack. You win.

Do you know where I can get some of that :banana

The hardest thing to find is the Baby Seal Blubber. Do you know any Eskimos? Maybe SmokeyMountainSteve can help out.

If all else fails, do you have a lead filled snowshoe? :-?

zelph
09-07-2007, 18:18
Subject: [pct-l] Calories per Ounce...
From: Jeffrey Olson <jjolson%40u%2Ewashington%2Eedu (http://www.backcountry.net/arch/pct/9712/-title)>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 09:20:58 -0800 (PST)Here are some "approximate" calorie values for one ounce of a foodBread, (oatmeal or seven grain, 1 slice) 90 calories
dried apricots 80 calories
M&Ms 142 calories

Minute Rice 110 calories
Hard Candy 110 calories
Spaghetti noodles 110 calories

Cashews 163 calories
Kraft Parmesian 110 calories
Cheddar Cheese 114 calories

Olive Oil 240 calories--------- *
Swiss Cheese 105 calories
Peanuts 160 calories

Cheese Whiz 80 calories
Peanut Butter 2 tbsp 188 calories *
Matzo crackers 110 calories

Jam, 2 teaspoons 34 calories
Rye Crisp 90 calories
Textured Veg Protein 105 calories

Macademia nuts 199 calories---- *
Dehydrate lentil soup 95 calories
Mixed nuts,dry 169 calories

Granola 130 calories
Mixed Nuts, oil 175 calories------- *
Shredded coconut 164 calories

Raisins 85 calories
Oatmeal, instant 108 calories
Hard salami, 3 slice100 calories

Raisins 85 calories
Walnuts, shelled 182 calories
Candy Corn 110 calories

Jeffrey Olson
Seattle Washington...


Peanut Butter tastes alot better than Olive Oil I'm for peanut butter straight outa the jar and covered with chopped Macademia nuts.

ScottP
09-09-2007, 20:16
Good nutrition is more important than carrying 2-4 oz less of food a day

You're hiking, your calories should be mostly complex carbs.

If it gets cold, then start stacking on the fats.

weary
09-09-2007, 22:41
What do you cook stovetop stuffing in? Mac & Cheese eetc. They call for 2,3,4, cups of water. Other foods that call for too much water?
There's plenty of water along the trail. But draining it is a bit of a hassle. I once accidentally dumped out two quarts of pasta that I was cooking to feed a group of 12 near Gulf Hagas in Maine.

The alternative is to use just enough of the water needed to cook your meal. The general rule is two cups of water for each cup of dried stuff. Cook for three quarters of the alleged cooking time and then let it just sit covered for the remaining time. In 60 years, this formula has never failed.

Weary

sirbingo
09-10-2007, 17:29
carbohydrates and proteins have 4 cal/gm
fats has 9 cal/g

Isn't alcohol also 9 cal/g

MOWGLI
09-10-2007, 17:31
Lightest food? Wind pudding with air sauce. That's what I got for dessert whenever I acted up as a chitlin'.

Mags
09-10-2007, 17:45
Lightest food? Wind pudding with air sauce. That's what I got for dessert whenever I acted up as a chitlin'.

My mom used to make a similar dessert called "skippit". When she needed to clean out the fridge, she'd make "musgos" (Every thing "musgo").

RadioFreq
09-10-2007, 18:04
i put too much water in my stuffing...and it was mushy. The chicken breast was good though and the stuffing was actually hot enough to warm the chicken.

Too bad you didn't have some instant mashed potatoes to toss in there. That would have used up the extra water and made it even better. :)

Appalachian Tater
09-10-2007, 19:12
Isn't alcohol also 9 cal/g

No, pure ethanol has 7 cal/g.

mweinstone
09-11-2007, 15:44
fudge stuffed baconroast with fluffenutter sauce under cotton candy glass with a chocolate duck centerpeice and 100 pounds of molases whipped with 10 gallons of knob creek till frothy. place all ingredients in car crushing machine and form block. remove and slice into baby snickers size. melt over candy apple and soak in pear brandy. dehydrate and and chip entire mixture in tree chipper till mulchlike.place small amount between gum and cheek and swallow juice. one gram gets you spinning drunk, vomitoriumatioushly full, sugar shocked and hiking fart power assisted down the trail.

may be used in place of , or added to scoll.

tiger bomb
09-11-2007, 21:32
has anyone tried the stovetop with cold water?

Jimmers
09-11-2007, 21:59
has anyone tried the stovetop with cold water?

It works. That's about all I can say for it.:o

Heat seems to add a lot to stuffing's flavor.:D

Appalachian Tater
09-11-2007, 22:14
has anyone tried the stovetop with cold water?

That makes a sodden lump of cold stale bread instead of a sodden lump of warm stale bread.

The cornbread stuffing is better than the regular bread stuffing.

chiefdaddy
09-15-2007, 10:49
I like the peppridge farm stuffing (how ever you spell it), add olive oil. I made instant potatoes, stuffing and had one of thos BBQ chicken breast in a pouch YUMMMM just like a real meal with more than one side :D the chicken is a first day out part of the meal. after that Jerky ect.

bhc4985
09-28-2007, 12:26
Ive eaten cold stovetop ... it kinda worked, didnt taste that great and some pieces were still crunchy. Stovetop is one of my favorite lightweight staples, with whatever protien I have on hand added in. Another one I like, thats not quite as light but damn good is 7oz pasta (la torre in the world food aisles sells packs in 7oz for like 49 cents) with some Amore squeeze tube pesto and foil packet tuna. Damn good, lotsa calories. You add a tablespoon of olive oil to the pesto too so its a pretty complete meal. The amore says to refrigerate the pesto after its open, but ive used it for a week long trips without a problem. I can usually get 3 or 4 meals out of the tube too.

Johnny Thunder
09-28-2007, 13:56
Lightest food is taht which you stash in your buddies pack at the begining of the day and remove at camp when they go for a BM.

garyhebert
11-15-2007, 22:24
Yes...memories....THE DOYLE.....Ahhhhh...Pubburger, Fries & Suds.....:sun

JAK
11-15-2007, 23:17
what is the lightest food in terms of oz/ to calories?Body needs carbs to. Brain especially needs carbs, since it runs 24/7 and can't burn fat. Carbs are roughly 4cal/g, or same as protien. There will almost always be some water and fibre, which will reduce it. You want some fibre, so it is really the water you need to reduce. Air is another thing that is good to eliminate. Honey has some water in it, but it is extremely dense in terms of calories per litre compared to other carbs.

For my carb and protien needs I try and average about 1500 kcal per pound or 1500 kcal per 500g. Some stuff is higher and some stuff is lower, but I usually get there on average, because there is usually a little fat in there in stuff like oatmeal to make up for the moisture and fibre. I don't use much fat on top of that because I burn body fat. In winter, or if ever get lean, then I will add more dietary fat. Volume wise 500g per litre is a good target. A 500ml plastic jar of honey is a good way to add a little emergency food. What you don't use it you can just put it back on the shelf.

Anyhow, pack the food that is good for you and you like to eat, but try and pick mostly from foods at least 3kcal per gram or 85g per ounce.