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bredler
11-17-2007, 19:45
This method requires no sealer, works every time, and produces a good-looking product.


1) Make sure you have a hole in the can before you scribe around it for the cut. You need this so that you can fit the two cans together.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5964.jpg

2) Cut as you normally would to get a perfect level mark around the can.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5962.jpg[/URL]


3) Cut the second can about 1/16" lower than the first.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5968.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5962.jpg)

4) Cut between four and six Vs in the shorter can. This is works much better than the usual advice of cutting eight slits in the can, which often causes puckering on the outer can, cutting of the outer can and requires sealer.
[URL]http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5970.jpg

5) Slip the shorter can with the Vs inside of the taller can. You'll be blown away with how easy this is, it requires no shims or special technique.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5974.jpg

6) Slide the two together slowly, making sure that you push the inside can in evenly all around.

7) You'll notice that one can sticks up more than the other, good! This picture makes the difference look pretty large, but it's actually quite small. So when you do this, it should look like much less than this one.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5975.jpg

8) Roll and smooth the stove against a hard surface to bend that lip down to lock the two into place and form a seal.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5978.jpg

9) Here's the finished product. This one came out with a little too much material around the edge, so the seal isn't perfect, but that's really just a cosmetic thing.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/bredler/?action=view&current=100_5982.jpg

10) Punch the holes and do whatever else you want, keeping in mind that since there are two layers of aluminum. So if you want to make a sideburner, I would reccommend using a drill, as a needle or similar would not punch through the second layer, because the second layer would just bend inward.



That's it! I like having the double wall because even though one of them has the slots in it, I find these to be much more resilient than a stove made with a short cap (actually on the bottom) and a longer piece for the top.

bredler
11-17-2007, 19:49
Oops! forgot to mention, that the picture associated with number nine is obviously just the bottom. You would make your jets on the opposite side, the one with the hole in the middle.

walkin' wally
11-18-2007, 14:15
I'm new at this. Is the stove supposed to have an inner wall? I mean like the strip of aluminum the we put around both can bottoms inside? Could you post a pic of a finished one that you made?

Thanks

whitefoot_hp
11-20-2007, 13:56
you can just cut slits in the inner can rather than doing those v's.

Sly
11-20-2007, 14:02
Thanks great, but not for nothing, couldn't you have described each picture and then just posted the 1st link. We could hit next.

Tha Wookie
11-20-2007, 16:25
cool thanks for sharing!

Javasanctum
11-20-2007, 20:01
Wow, thanks for the idea. I never tried a "V" cut yet. It's amazing how many little tricks there are to building these stoves.

oops56
11-20-2007, 21:02
Also put some cooking oil on both half's

bredler
11-26-2007, 11:06
you can just cut slits in the inner can rather than doing those v's.


The whole point of this was to get away from the slits. Everytime I've used the slits, it's either not a tight seal, or they pucker the outer layer and often cut it.

RE Wally: The stove is only supposed to have an inner wall if you are making an open jet stove with a hole in the middle that you light to get it started. This one was a pressurized stove in which you only make a small fill hole and seal that up, then prime the stove with a small amount of fuel in a puddle around it.

oops56
11-26-2007, 12:44
Put the bottom in the freezer with the v on it. the other heat it up or just drive up to my house i show you how. There more then one way to do it i not good at saying how

walkin' wally
11-26-2007, 13:31
The whole point of this was to get away from the slits. Everytime I've used the slits, it's either not a tight seal, or they pucker the outer layer and often cut it.

RE Wally: The stove is only supposed to have an inner wall if you are making an open jet stove with a hole in the middle that you light to get it started. This one was a pressurized stove in which you only make a small fill hole and seal that up, then prime the stove with a small amount of fuel in a puddle around it.

Thanks, I am not familiar with the pressurized stove. What do you plug the center hole with? I have an older soda can stove from Tin Man and none of my replicated stoves work as good as his. I assume you use a priming pan?

Big Si
11-26-2007, 14:45
That's a cracking Idea mate. I'll give it a go tomorrow night and report back. I've been using the shims and a dilator tool but this idea I hope will make it easy.

Si

TOW
11-26-2007, 17:56
Has anyone ever used a wood gas stove?

walkin' wally
11-27-2007, 10:03
I used a wood stove once. It was made of oak and burned about 4 hours....

bredler
11-27-2007, 20:46
Wally, I just stick a nickel on it, others come up with elaborate systems of a thumb screw attached via chain that screws into a threaded nut that they epoxied in before putting it together...
...to each his own I guess. The nickel seems to work really well.

check out http://zenstoves.net/Stoves.htm for more info than you could ever want an alcohol stoves.

Here's a demonstration of how the coin sealer works:
http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.html

build a few of each one that strikes your fancy and test them out. That way you can decide for yourself what works.

bredler
11-27-2007, 21:05
P.S.

yes I do use a primer pan, or you can just get the whole outside of the stove coated with acohol (takes like two seconds and almost no fuel) and that should be enough in fair weather in a pinch.

whitefoot_hp
11-28-2007, 18:10
The whole point of this was to get away from the slits. Everytime I've used the slits, it's either not a tight seal, or they pucker the outer layer and often cut it.

interesting. never had that happen