trangia

[earthbound]

sorry i suck at the search function... i really DO try!

How much does the trangia weigh? Do you have to keep the windscreen with the stove? Can you buy just the stove or do you have to get the pot/pan with it? How efficient is it compared to a popcan stove? Thanks

[SGT Rock]

1. 2.4 ounces for the burner, 0.8 ounces for the cap, 0.9 ounces for the simmer cap.

2. No, you can make an aluminum foil or similar material windscreen. If you do that you will have to come up with some form of stand too.

3. No, you can get just a burner in some places, or get a Westwind stove and use any pot/pan you want.

4. Depends on how you define efficient. A little more efficient on fuel consumption but not much different on weight or performance.

[rickb]

Trangia's are great.

You can snuff them out before the fuel is completely exhausted, then just screw on the cap. No need to pour the extra fuel back in to a bottle, or calculate what you need in advance.

This works well until you put the cap on a red hot stove an melt the O-ring.

[earthbound]

thanks for the feedback. I've read a lot of positive reviews of the trangia and I'm thinking about it. My stoves that I've made totally suck for efficiency which is making the trangia look better all the time.

[Skidsteer]

thanks for the feedback. I've read a lot of positive reviews of the trangia and I'm thinking about it. My stoves that I've made totally suck for efficiency which is making the trangia look better all the time.

What stoves have you tried making?

[dla]

http://mysite.verizon.net/restoq6v/id1.html - shows a windscreen and stand.

Do a search, I bought my Trangia burners for $12 ea but I'm sure they're a little more now.

In my opinion, having built and tried a number of Alcohol burners, the Trangia burner is the best designed burner available. Of course thats my opinion and I'm not a gram-weeny. If I just blow my nose before I start a hike I make up for the weight of the Trangia.

[Footslogger]

Here is my set-up, using the Trangia Burner and Modified Westwind stand. Entire set-up fits inside my cookpot, along with my spoon and matches/lighter.

'Slogger

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Trangia1.JPG

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Trangia2.JPG

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Trangia3.JPG

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Trangia4.JPG

[headchange4u]

I love my Trangia. It's my favorite alky stove. I use this stand (http://ultralight-hiking.com/BURNER.jpg) with mine. That stand is really light, has perfect spacing for the pot on top, and ia also great for priming the stove in colder weather. I got it at Bluff Mountain Outfitter in Hot Springs, NC. It only cost like $5, but I have never seen it for sale online.

[headchange4u]

Here's a closer look (http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/greatoutdoorsdepot_1977_25790144) at the stand.

[Footslogger]

Here's a closer look (http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/greatoutdoorsdepot_1977_25790144) at the stand.

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Pretty sure that's the one that comes with the Mini-Trangia set-up. Here's a link fot it:

http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/mini-trangia-28.html

'Slogger

[Old Grouse]

Yep, that's the one that came with mine.

[Critterman]

I got it at Bluff Mountain Outfitter in Hot Springs, NC. It only cost like $5, but I have never seen it for sale online.

I got one on ebay. I saw them for sale at the Mount Rogers Outfitters in Damascus last month.

[Grinder]

that's a slick set up, footslogger!!!

I bought a used trangia from a guy in MN off of Craigslist. It came with multiple burners (like three or four).

I believe I will gravitate from the heini pot/ mini bull set up I now use toward one like yours. It has been shown to me that my minibull is rather fuel inefficient, although fast as hell.

I may just see if I can fabricate a pot stand to support the heini pot and use the trangia burner with it.

Miles of Smiles
Tom

[SGT Rock]

My take on the Trangia set up: http://www.hikinghq.net/ionstove/images/ionization.jpg

Titanium stand and aluminum windscreen.

[SGT Rock]

Not trying to spam the board by posting this (I'm out of stock anyway and haven't sold or made one in years) but here are the specs for that stand system:

http://hikinghq.net/osCommerce/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=34

[Tinker]

Here's a closer look (http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/greatoutdoorsdepot_1977_25790144) at the stand.

The stand and the pot, but especially the stand are WAY heavy. I ditched the stand in favor of one I made from a 1lb. coffee can. The stand is also too low for maximum thermal efficiency. I experimented with boiling times by holding the pot over the burner and decided that 2-1/2 inches from bottom of burner to bottom of pot was just about optimum. I still have everything but the stand (I threw it out), and am willing to take offers, though it's probably not worth it for anyone to pay shipping.

[highway]

Careful getting your Trangia on eBay as some of them sold there are of the Swedish military variant which are much larger and heavier than the civilian one, although they look mostly the same. The Swedish military variant has just 23 holes while the civilian one, smaller but has one more hole with 24. Plus, the larger Swedish military variant has a can diameter of 3.25" and a burn ring diameter of 7/8".
I have tried both and prefer the smaller, civilian one, for it's size and weight savings as I vaguely recall, plus the civilian one has a simmer ring. Although it has been a while, I don't recall any vast difference (if any) between the two's performance or, much more importantly when one compares the use of any alcohol stove, their fuel efficiency.

[headchange4u]

The stand and the pot, but especially the stand are WAY heavy. I ditched the stand in favor of one I made from a 1lb. coffee can. The stand is also too low for maximum thermal efficiency. I experimented with boiling times by holding the pot over the burner and decided that 2-1/2 inches from bottom of burner to bottom of pot was just about optimum. I still have everything but the stand (I threw it out), and am willing to take offers, though it's probably not worth it for anyone to pay shipping.


The stand that I linked to is very light. I have never weighed it but I would think it would weigh 1oz or less. I do have a much heavier stand that came with the burner, but I never use it.

[Critterman]

The stand that I linked to is very light. I have never weighed it but I would think it would weigh 1oz or less. I do have a much heavier stand that came with the burner, but I never use it.

mine weighs 1.5 oz

[Skidsteer]

The stand that I linked to is very light. I have never weighed it but I would think it would weigh 1oz or less. I do have a much heavier stand that came with the burner, but I never use it.


mine weighs 1.5 oz

I don't see that it makes much difference if you're already OK with carrying a four ounce stove.

[earthbound]

I bought a trangia! I will be ditching the pot stand/ windscreen in favor of lighter options if I decide to take it. I made the v8 can stove and regular pop can stoves. The v8 stove was pretty bad... but the pop can stove was much better :) Thanks for all the pics of different setups. That is really helpful. Does anyone have pics of their pot cozys?? That is on my list of things to make.

[Footslogger]

Here's my pot cozy. It's made from Reflectix and fits tightly around my cookpot. I have a lid made but never use it.

'Slogger

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Cozy1-1.JPG

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/0/Cozy2-1.JPG

[Tinker]

I don't see that it makes much difference if you're already OK with carrying a four ounce stove.

Good point. That's why I don't use mine anymore.

[Nearly Normal]

This is all you need with a tin foil wind screen.
http://www.thru-hiker.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TR101
Go to your local drug store and ask for a cough syrup (plastic) bottle. they ar usually red with increments on the side. This is great for denatured alcohol. In really cold weather use a tea candle under it for a minute.

[Critterman]

I don't see that it makes much difference if you're already OK with carrying a four ounce stove.

Skids, you have a lot of experience with alky stoves and I have a question for you. How often do you end up putting more fuel in the stove than you really needed to boil your water ? I have tried out a number of stoves on the patio cooking and boiling and testing recipes and techniques and what not, and I seem to usually waste alcohol by overestimating how much i will need or being lazy and not wanting to run out before I am done. I would consider you pretty much an authority on alky stove use and wondered how often you judge pretty much on the money how much to put in the stove. Thanks

[taildragger]

Skids, you have a lot of experience with alky stoves and I have a question for you. How often do you end up putting more fuel in the stove than you really needed to boil your water ? I have tried out a number of stoves on the patio cooking and boiling and testing recipes and techniques and what not, and I seem to usually waste alcohol by overestimating how much i will need or being lazy and not wanting to run out before I am done. I would consider you pretty much an authority on alky stove use and wondered how often you judge pretty much on the money how much to put in the stove. Thanks

Comes with experience of the stove. If you're using your stove all teh time, you can get pretty good with estimating the amount of fuel for the temp of the water and wind that you're in.

What I'm gonna do for this is to low ball my fuel for varying conditions till I find out exactly how much fuel I need. This will require me to do a bit more hiking in order to become field efficient, but thats a burden that I can deal with

[take-a-knee]

Skids, you have a lot of experience with alky stoves and I have a question for you. How often do you end up putting more fuel in the stove than you really needed to boil your water ? I have tried out a number of stoves on the patio cooking and boiling and testing recipes and techniques and what not, and I seem to usually waste alcohol by overestimating how much i will need or being lazy and not wanting to run out before I am done. I would consider you pretty much an authority on alky stove use and wondered how often you judge pretty much on the money how much to put in the stove. Thanks

I like a 10cc syringe to measure with.

[Footslogger]

Knowing that I can store unspent fuel in the reservoir of my Trangia I hardly ever measure it any more. I pour in what I know will be enough to cook a meal and light the fuse, so to speak. That said, the flask that I use to carry my alcohol has a cap that doubles as a 1 ounce shot jigger, so if I really wanted to pour in a specific amount I could.

'Slogger

[Thoughtful Owl]

I like the idea of being able to put the cap on the burner and not having to worry about spilling or wasting fuel. Thanks footslogger for the link, I was wondering where I could get one and was about to google it.

[Footslogger]

I like the idea of being able to put the cap on the burner and not having to worry about spilling or wasting fuel. Thanks footslogger for the link, I was wondering where I could get one and was about to google it.

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Just remember to let it cool off before putting the lid back on (the one with the O-ring). A common mistake is to extinguish the burner with the threaded O-ring sealed cap, instead of the outer cap that contains the simmer ring. What I do to avoid that error is to unscrew the O-ring sealed cap and put it inside the blue nylon sack for my cook pot while I'm cooking.

'Slogger

[Username75]

I use a 12 ounce Tuna can that i drill about 6 holes evenly spaced at the bottom of an empty can.
I just put My pot or cup right on top of the can.
if you want to get fancy You could drill 12 holes on the very top of the can
and use a couple of nails to hold any smaller cooking vessle.
but then a 2nd windscreen might be needed.
in cold weather I use a vallasic pickle jar lid with felt inside to seat the tuna can inside.
a teaspoon of alchy to preheat, then light the trangia.
i save the tuna can lid for a simple snuffer

[Two Speed]

. . . What I do to avoid that error is to unscrew the O-ring sealed cap and put it inside the blue nylon sack for my cook pot while I'm cooking.That's a good method. The other thing I do is keep a spare o-ring in my first aid kit. Being able to store fuel in the stove is the one big advantage over other alky stoves. Screwing that up on the trail is a bit more "embarrassment" than I care to deal with.

[Skidsteer]

Skids, you have a lot of experience with alky stoves and I have a question for you. How often do you end up putting more fuel in the stove than you really needed to boil your water ? I have tried out a number of stoves on the patio cooking and boiling and testing recipes and techniques and what not, and I seem to usually waste alcohol by overestimating how much i will need or being lazy and not wanting to run out before I am done. I would consider you pretty much an authority on alky stove use and wondered how often you judge pretty much on the money how much to put in the stove. Thanks

It's easy to measure with the stove I use. The inner cup will only hold 15 ml(half ounce). If I want to add more, I have to wait a few seconds and let the fuel weep down some.

To answer your question though, I always fill with 15 ml. Since most all of my meals only need 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 cups water, I easily get the boil and then some. Yes I could save a few ml I suppose, but it's not worth it to me.

In the short videos I did, I was boiling 2 cups with 15 ml outside with a windscreen. The air temp was about 55-60 F and water temp was about the same just to give you an idea. I didn't time it but I estimate that the stove burned another 1-2 minutes after boil 'cause I had to be careful not to get too close to it while I was demonstrating the freezer bag and coffee stuff.

[Two Speed]

Hey Skids, didja know the Heinie set up (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=20475&c=694) makes a great sake warmer?

[Skidsteer]

Hey Skids, didja know the Heinie set up (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=20475&c=694) makes a great sake warmer?

You ain't right man. :D

Good hike?

[smokymtnsteve]

alaska wilderness woman contest;)

[Two Speed]

I'll take that to mean you hadn't thought of using the Heinie set up as a sake warmer. Shame, shame, shame.

Yup, had a good hike. Can ya tell? Next thing I gotta do is catch up with all my buddies.

[Two Speed]

alaska wilderness woman contest;)Gotta give ya credit, that came out of the blue. :confused:

[Critterman]

It's easy to measure with the stove I use . . .

Thanks for the answer