a WB member emailed to ask about some pot stands in some photos I posted...

i have a garage full of bike parts... so i made some new potstands that fold flat.

http://lh6.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysYS6I3hI/AAAAAAAADms/DpzJoll0_8s/s800/IMG_4325.JPG

http://lh5.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysaC6I3iI/AAAAAAAADm0/em4SGSiUBmk/s800/IMG_4316.JPG


http://lh3.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysci6I3kI/AAAAAAAADnE/0zH0zbk6uTU/s800/IMG_4318.JPG

recycled bike spokes, some al. tube from ace.
playing with orientation and size.

http://lh5.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1yseC6I3lI/AAAAAAAADnM/vavQ4Ujn5Es/s800/IMG_4319.JPG

you can pick up old spokes from bike shops, or even buy new ones for pretty cheap. should be able to find old wheels @ thrift stores.
you can find them in many guages, in stainless, alloy, kevlar, and carbon fiber.
i think these are stainless. they are from some wheels that date to the late 90's.



http://lh3.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysii6I3oI/AAAAAAAADnk/VYHsNcE5G_4/s800/IMG_4323.JPG

in experimenting i found that the spoke nipple acts like a nut to put pressure on the al. tubing and keep everything together. i cut the tubing nearly the same length as the leg, slid it on, and tightened the nipple. the nipples can also be adjusted (prior to using with a stove - the heat tends to gum up the threads if they have spoke prep on them) to level the pot - in case you bent or cut the legs wrong. a standard nipple should be able to correct for 1/16" or slightly more of error.



http://lh4.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysjy6I3pI/AAAAAAAADns/5YIBysDWLOU/s800/IMG_4329.JPG

when creating a tripod with the points down i found that using a full length of tubing works best as the tubing heats up and the 'lock' will slide down.
when creating a tripod with the points up (under the pot) - a short length of tubing can be used for the 'lock' - giving a visual reminder on where the stand comes apart to fold.

you could also create a 4 legged version.
these fold flat and fit into my pots.
the small one works with both pots - snow peak 700 and snow peak 1400 (although i need to be a bit careful with the large pot on the small stand)

http://lh3.google.com/mike.beganyi/R1ysfi6I3mI/AAAAAAAADnU/yV_t6izrM70/s800/IMG_4321.JPG

Why did i think this thread was going to be about some magical land somehwere in Vermont??:rolleyes: :)

Dang, thats pretty cool! (off to the thrift store tomorrow!)

Nice job, and thanks for sharing it. Knowing my design skills, I might need more than 1/16" adjustment...:D

buck, I was worrying about that too, but Im thinking if I put them all into the bench vise together and bend them all at the same time, they should come out even (shouldnt they?)

buck, I was worrying about that too, but Im thinking if I put them all into the bench vise together and bend them all at the same time, they should come out even (shouldnt they?)

You would think they would, but I have been known to do the impossible.;) Especially with plumb, level, square and such!! Dang talented folks...

You would think they would, but I have been known to do the impossible.;) Especially with plumb, level, square and such!! Dang talented folks...
get your wife to do it save yourself if it still bad just say my wife did it:-?

Why did i think this thread was going to be about some magical land somehwere in Vermont??:rolleyes: :)

:)

of course you are not far from naples, ny... plenty of tree stands and pot stands there for sure. i've seen the tree stands. heard plenty about the pot stands...


i used to live on seneca point road... btw.
hiked and biked in hi-tor and stid hill many a time.

Nice job, and thanks for sharing it. Knowing my design skills, I might need more than 1/16" adjustment...:D

really easy to make.
by an old wheel for $2 at the thrift store or a handful of spokes from a bike shop and you'll have plenty to play with.

you can probably get better part of 1/8" out of the spoke threads for adjustment.

Huh, good ideal. I'll have to make one of those.

cool stand, good idea to use spokes, and great work on the design and all, but...........
I can put my pot on my alcohol stove, no pot stand needed.

Not that there is anything wrong with that!:sun

:)

of course you are not far from naples, ny... plenty of tree stands and pot stands there for sure. i've seen the tree stands. heard plenty about the pot stands...


i used to live on seneca point road... btw.
hiked and biked in hi-tor and stid hill many a time.

I just did an overnight in that area this weekend. Tramping through the snow off trail into State Forest Land, dodging hunters and set up a stealth camp.

cool stand, good idea to use spokes, and great work on the design and all, but...........
I can put my pot on my alcohol stove, no pot stand needed.

Not that there is anything wrong with that!:sun

i go back and forth between a potscreen / stove with stand / and independent pieces. guess i like to tinker and try out ideas. :)

Way cool idea on the spokes. I am going to have my students build a simple stove and then test it as one of their thermodynamics labs next term. They are engineers. I want them to get more hands on knowledge so they don't all end up like me. If it also inspires them to spend some time in the woods we all win.

It would be interesting to see how that aluminium tubing holds up over time. Two things might happen: (1) the spokes will warp and corrode and (2) the aluminium tubing will melt and deform.

It would be interesting to see how that aluminium tubing holds up over time. Two things might happen: (1) the spokes will warp and corrode and (2) the aluminium tubing will melt and deform.

so far so good with plenty of test burns from my stove making affliction. i built these about 2 months ago and have been testing stoves as i build them.

i've heated the spokes up red hot (without a pot) and they seem to be doing just fine.

the al. tubing does conform to the spokes - so if they fit really tight the tubing tends to become more ellipse shaped.

FYI


I used some bicycle spokes through holes in the wind screen for a pot stand.

with three spokes, They got red hot and sagged (deformed) with the weight of the Heini pot and two cups of water.

It seems like four spokes didn't sag, but memory is a funny thing. So ther you have it. A bit of a caveat.

Tom

FYI


I used some bicycle spokes through holes in the wind screen for a pot stand.

with three spokes, They got red hot and sagged (deformed) with the weight of the Heini pot and two cups of water.

It seems like four spokes didn't sag, but memory is a funny thing. So ther you have it. A bit of a caveat.

Tom

hmm. i have a windscreen / pot stand for my snowpeak 1400 and use 2 spokes. red hot when the pot is not on... no sag after many many stove test burns.

maybe they were alloy and double butted...

Can you show me that al tubing you got from the store. Im curious as to how you got in on the spokes and bent it. I love this design. Seem light and conventional and would like to see how it works with my pot and starlyte.

:)

of course you are not far from naples, ny... plenty of tree stands and pot stands there for sure. i've seen the tree stands. heard plenty about the pot stands...


i used to live on seneca point road... btw.
hiked and biked in hi-tor and stid hill many a time.
Aahhh, my old hiking grounds. Vermont must have been a pretty good move for you though. I used to write for the Daily Messenger. South Bristol was my first beat.

Can you show me that al tubing you got from the store. Im curious as to how you got in on the spokes and bent it. I love this design. Seem light and conventional and would like to see how it works with my pot and starlyte.

check the first pic. its short tubing available in ace hardware stores. no bending required.

bend the spokes to create the shape you want. be sure to create the leg of the stand with the part of the spoke that has the threads / nipple attached.

cut the length of al. tubing to be nearly as long the leg, taking into account the curve of the spoke.

remove the spoke nipple. slide the al. tubing on, replace the spoke nipple.
tighten the spoke nipple and it should compress the tubing a bit against the underside of the bend.

slide the remaining sides of the stand in from the top.

the tubing may deform a bit with 2 spokes inside. this is ok. when choosing the tubing be sure the spokes slid in and out - snug is ok - but you don't want them too tight.



i can post a more detailed DIY set of photos if needed.

Aahhh, my old hiking grounds. Vermont must have been a pretty good move for you though. I used to write for the Daily Messenger. South Bristol was my first beat.

i liked it there... but VT is where my heart has always been.
i get back at least 3-4 times a year and hang out with my old housemate.
i've done the highlander bike ride a couple of times too...

the daily messenger! too funny.
spent many miles on foot and bike and car in those hills - exploring, riding, snowshoeing. great terrain.

i liked it there... but VT is where my heart has always been.
i get back at least 3-4 times a year and hang out with my old housemate.
i've done the highlander bike ride a couple of times too...

the daily messenger! too funny.
spent many miles on foot and bike and car in those hills - exploring, riding, snowshoeing. great terrain.
My personal fave was the orange trail that starts at the jumpoff at Ontario Co. Park and I'd hike through to Cutler and hike all of their trails and then end the day with Stid Hill.
Also hiked Hi-Tor frequently.
Left my heart there with the most beautiful girl.

My personal fave was the orange trail that starts at the jumpoff at Ontario Co. Park and I'd hike through to Cutler and hike all of their trails and then end the day with Stid Hill.
Also hiked Hi-Tor frequently.
Left my heart there with the most beautiful girl.

forgot about cutler. did some mt bikeing in there and snowshoeing.
never connected from the jump off. that would have been a great one!
had a friend with 50 acres atop stid hill. (undeveloped) had the privledge to walk the property with him a few times and it was absolutely wonderful!

check the first pic. its short tubing available in ace hardware stores. no bending required.

bend the spokes to create the shape you want. be sure to create the leg of the stand with the part of the spoke that has the threads / nipple attached.

cut the length of al. tubing to be nearly as long the leg, taking into account the curve of the spoke.

remove the spoke nipple. slide the al. tubing on, replace the spoke nipple.
tighten the spoke nipple and it should compress the tubing a bit against the underside of the bend.

slide the remaining sides of the stand in from the top.

the tubing may deform a bit with 2 spokes inside. this is ok. when choosing the tubing be sure the spokes slid in and out - snug is ok - but you don't want them too tight.



i can post a more detailed DIY set of photos if needed.

Thanks. Just piecing it together. Really great for the Starlyte. Great pics.

hmm. i have a windscreen / pot stand for my snowpeak 1400 and use 2 spokes. red hot when the pot is not on... no sag after many many stove test burns.

maybe they were alloy and double butted...
Have been using stainless spokes through my pot stand with a snowpeak with 2 cups of water for about two seasons, they get red hot, no problems.

I found an old wheel and did the spoke stand. It folds down into my MSR Titanium kettle with the Starlyte and is so light. Plus I got a 7 minute boil time on 12 oz of water and a half oz of alcohol. Not to shabby!

Pot stand is the next thing on my list & our look good. Thank for taking the time to share it. I'm not a biker but do know what spokes are. What the screws like thining at the bottum of the spokes?

Pot stand is the next thing on my list & our look good. Thank for taking the time to share it. I'm not a biker but do know what spokes are. What the screws like thining at the bottum of the spokes?
I believe that's the end of the spoke that mounts to the rim.

Pot stand is the next thing on my list & our look good. Thank for taking the time to share it. I'm not a biker but do know what spokes are. What the screws like thining at the bottum of the spokes?

those are the spoke nipples. they mount in the rim and allow the spoke (and wheel) to be tensioned.

looks like the slightest bump knocks that thing off. try using a circle of aluminum flashing w/ a bunch of holes in it, which doubles as the potstand and wind screen.

looks like the slightest bump knocks that thing off.

i'm assuming you are talking about the small stand?

try using a circle of aluminum flashing w/ a bunch of holes in it, which doubles as the potstand and wind screen.

done that too.
i like making stuff... if you use foil for the windscreen, or only use 1/2 windcreen you may need a stand or a stove/stand.