View Full Version : New 10 oz.Climashield Quilt 40 F


Bear the Dog
02-10-2008, 22:39
Here is my newest 40*F SUL quilt. Shell and liner are made from Ripstop Nylon. Climashield XP insulation.
It has a neck closure/drawstring and snaps together behind the neck. Very simple and Super Ultra Light! Fits a person up to 5'9". Sized to mimic the Nunatak Ard Ghost. 46W/34F.
10 oz.!!!!!
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/normal_IMG_6552.JPG
Back view
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/normal_IMG_6560.JPG
Gromets for the drawstring in front
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/IMG_6570.JPG
Snaps in back
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/IMG_6558.JPG
Drwstring/Neck closure/Snaps
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/IMG_6593.JPG
Superman Quilt
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/normal_IMG_6554.JPG
Red Ripstop Climashield
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/IMG_3924.jpg

hammock engineer
02-10-2008, 23:11
Did you use quilting loops to keep consistant loft and keep the ripstop from ballooning out?

take-a-knee
02-10-2008, 23:20
What are the weights/yd of the fabric and climashield you used?

Bear the Dog
02-10-2008, 23:32
hammock
There really is no need for that on climashield xp. It is very consistant and stays evenly distributed with Ripstop and Momentum. What you are talking about is something that used to happen with Polorguard Delta and 3D. Climashield is thinner and lighter.

take knee
The answer is trial and error! But I did use the 2.5 Xp.

Bear the Dog
02-11-2008, 04:58
I have tested these in Big Bear CA, Grand Canyon National Park AZ, Mt Whitney CA (highest trail in the US), San Gorgonio Ca (highest mountain in Southern CA), Mt San Jacinto CA (second highest peak in Southern CA), Cuchamonga Peak CA, Jashua Tree National Park CA.

russb
02-11-2008, 06:37
Looks good Dog!

hammock engineer
02-11-2008, 09:33
Have you had any problems with the material moving around or ballooning out or coming in your face? That is the complaint I have hear of the Frantic Fringe quilts that do not have quilt loops vs the ray-way ones that everyone likes that have them.

Looks great though.

RenoRoamer
02-11-2008, 11:45
I wouldn't worry about the material moving or ballooning too much. That sounds more cosmetic than functional. I've made quilts of polarguard 3d in the past and currently use climashield xp. I DO quilt my quilts (using yarn-loop quilting), but I've experimented with quilts prior to quilting and so I know what you are talking about with respect to "ballooning" and whatnot. I still think quilting is a good idea for duarability, especially if you will be compressing the quilt into a smaller stuff sack. If you won't be compressing it tightly, then quilting probably won't be necessary.

I don't mean to cause offense, but that temperature rating of 40degF for a single layer of 2.5 climashield is pushing thing for most people (assuming no clothes other than underwear). I used so-called 5oz/sqyd Climashield XP (which actually weighs about 6.5 oz/sqyd) for my most recent quilt and previously I used 2 layers of 3oz/sqyd Polarguard 3D (which weighs almost exactly 3 oz/sqyd). The Climashield quilt is warmer, but it also weighs more per sqyd and hasn't been abused in the field like the older Polarguard quilt. Assuming both insulations were new and weighed the same on an oz/sqyd basis, I don't think there would be much difference between them. They are basically the same thing--silicone coated hollow polyester fibers, which is an old technology--and the only differences are the thickness of the fibers, the ratio of hollow to solid, the shape of the fibers and perhaps the amount of silicone coating. Maybe Climashield tweaked things and squeezed out a little more performance versus Polarguard 3D or Delta, but they certainly didn't do anything revolutionary.

Bear the Dog
02-11-2008, 15:56
I first got a Fanatic Fringe Quilt with Polar Delta and had no problems with it. It was just too heavy at 18 oz for me. It also had no neck closure or drawstring.

The ones I made have been used and tested as stated above without the use of a stuffsack. I use a thin garbage bag of some kind to line my pack and stuff the quilt in the bottom with my bivy on top. Sometimes my bivy is my liner then the quilt goes in the bottom.

The 40 degree rating question. No offense taken! Rating is something that is different for everyone. Based on myself and my trips I never sleep in just underware while under a quilt. So the more anyone wants to push the rating the more multi-use theory (which is what true SUL is) must be practiced by adding more layers of clothing that you already have with you. This was taught to me by Ron Bell a long time ago. Clothing is our first line of shelter so why not use what we already have with us on the trail?

Well I have always been a warm sleeper, I recently lost 20 lbs from my training hikes getting ready for my trip to Peru in the Amazon Jungle. I lost some bodyfat and I do feel the cold more than before. I hav a 6 oz. bivy that is part of my gear for unexpected wind or blown rain. Keeps the quilt and clothes I am in cleaner too.
Always fun talking shop.

Bear the Dog
02-11-2008, 16:04
Red Ripstop Climashield
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/IMG_3924~0.jpg
Grey Momentum 10 oz.
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/normal_IMG_3029~0.JPG
Top of San Jacinto Peak
http://pics.ramanon.com/albums/userpics/10027/SanJacintoMay07%2520230~0.jpg

hammock engineer
02-11-2008, 20:15
Thanks for answering. I'm still stuck in the down world, but thinking about a synthic setup.

Lyle
02-13-2008, 10:37
I'm thinking this might be a good top quilt to use in conjunction with my PeaPod.

Bear the Dog
02-14-2008, 03:31
I am making quilts for the Bivy/Hammock user also. They will have no neck closure drawstring or snaps. I usually sleep in a bivy and find that I don't use the neck closure drawstring.
The nature of a bivy and hammock is to make the quilt cradle around you already. If you are a person who always sleeps in a bivy or hamock these are way simpler to make and much cheaper. I can also get them out faster. Thanks

Bear the Dog
02-23-2008, 01:06
Making more grey ones.

Alligator
04-03-2008, 10:19
Bear, do you have a pattern for this design?