I'm interested in making my own wood burning stoves. It would be extremely beneficial for me if anyone wanted to talk about their own home brew wood burning stoves. Pictures would be amazing, links would be great. Also, anyone who has a commercially purchased wood burning stove that perhaps has some concepts that you find worth paying for instead of building it yourself.

List of preferred materials would be great :D
I don't want to buy fuel, but I also don't want to make a new burn scar in shenendoah np everytime I pitch camp. Most of you know open fires are banned out there. The alcohol stove I manufactured is awesome but I don't even want to worry about carrying fuel. I want to spend what little extra money I have getting to the woods and not on gear I'm not even sure will be right for me.

Thanks - d0tsl4sh

Check out army surplus stores. The army used to make a great one. It folded up small and using a hand full of sticks I could boil enough water for a large hiker meal. The only problem was that it was almost 2 pounds. If you are a welder you could make one much lighter. I always planned on doing that, but never got around to it. If you make two let me know, I'll buy one.

Good Grief!!! I got blown off the website again after posting a lengthy message.
In short, I made a coffee can wood stove a few years back with a hole near the bottom to insert wood, and used a church key (used to open soft drink cans before pull tabs were invented) to punch a series of holes around the top rim to let the fire and smoke out. It blackened pots so badly that I gave up on it. You can obtain just about any type of fuel your stove uses in towns along the AT if that's where you'll be using it. Using a wood fueled stove may freak out locals in states where fires are banned if they smell smoke coming from somewhere along the trail. Not likely, but possible.

The Globe Stove is a stainless steel stove that works well. Sgt Rock made one and has it with him on the AT. Any one heard if he has used it?

Here is the thread that shows how to make one.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25589&highlight=globe+stove

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Here are a few pictures of a homemade WoodGas stove I made several months ago. It really gets hot, if you look at the cross-bar pot support I made for it, you can see where it’s melted. I made the cross bar out of 1/8 inch aluminum and it melted the first time I fired it up. The stove itself is made from a stainless steel canister set I got at a flee market for $1.50.

It puts out a ferocious flame with the fan on high. It makes more noise then my Svea 123. I don’t see myself using the fan on high as it’s just too hot, other then bringing a big pot of water to boil very fast. For cooking low speed seems to work well. I have only cooked with it in the garage on the workbench so far.

http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index=1&timer=&PictDisp=0 (http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index=1&timer=&PictDisp=0)


It’s a slide show, just click on next in the upper right to scan through the images.

First I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/falk-wood-stove.htm
and worked really well (cost $1.25 but I got to drink the OJ that was in the can!)
...but then I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm
and it worked even better (1qt. paint can can be found at most home centers i.e.Home Depot, total cost for both cans needed was roughly $5 maybe?)...or perhaps it worked the same but had a higher "cool" factor.
Anyway, I built both of them just by studying the pics on the web site. Took about an afternoon each but it's been fun to work with.
I do have to admit that I've yet to test in the field, excepting day hikes.

First I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/falk-wood-stove.htm
and worked really well (cost $1.25 but I got to drink the OJ that was in the can!)
...but then I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm
and it worked even better (1qt. paint can can be found at most home centers i.e.Home Depot, total cost for both cans needed was roughly $5 maybe?)...or perhaps it worked the same but had a higher "cool" factor.
Anyway, I built both of them just by studying the pics on the web site. Took about an afternoon each but it's been fun to work with.
I do have to admit that I've yet to test in the field, excepting day hikes.


I built one of the ones in the first link you posted, it’s sitting outside under some snow right now. It works well and it’s easy to make. And it cost nothing. I still like the WoodGas one I made a lot more. But the juice can one works and is a heck of a lot easier to make. But I like to tinker and make things so the WoodGas one was no problem, and it generates some serous heat if you fill it up with wood and turn the fan on high.

Or maybe you could build this stainless steel Martha Stuart wood burner.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20680&highlight=martha+stuart

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After your done making those you can make one of these:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17466&highlight=stove

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Zelph I can tell you are a fellow stoveoholic, I’m always playing around making things in the garage.

Maybe we should form a help group “ stoveoholics anonymous.”

First I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/falk-wood-stove.htm
and worked really well (cost $1.25 but I got to drink the OJ that was in the can!)
...but then I built this
http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm
and it worked even better (1qt. paint can can be found at most home centers i.e.Home Depot, total cost for both cans needed was roughly $5 maybe?)...or perhaps it worked the same but had a higher "cool" factor.
Anyway, I built both of them just by studying the pics on the web site. Took about an afternoon each but it's been fun to work with.
I do have to admit that I've yet to test in the field, excepting day hikes.

Thank you, the second link is exactly what I need. No fans, no pumps, no etc.

I already built a few alcohol stoves and I got one that boils two cups of water in about 4 minutes, but that wood burning stove looks a little more up my ally. Nature provides more than enough fuel for that and that means less junk I need in my pack. :D thanks for all the help!

Good Grief!!! I got blown off the website again after posting a lengthy message.
In short, I made a coffee can wood stove a few years back with a hole near the bottom to insert wood, and used a church key (used to open soft drink cans before pull tabs were invented) to punch a series of holes around the top rim to let the fire and smoke out. It blackened pots so badly that I gave up on it. You can obtain just about any type of fuel your stove uses in towns along the AT if that's where you'll be using it. Using a wood fueled stove may freak out locals in states where fires are banned if they smell smoke coming from somewhere along the trail. Not likely, but possible.


I stopped using the can stove because of all the soot on the pans. The gasified Wood burner is about 80% less soot then the can stove. It’s more involved to make, but it’s nice to not have all that black soot to deal with.

...Maybe we should form a help group “ stoveoholics anonymous.”

We already have ;):

bplite.com (http://bplite.com)

I have a Zzip stove but if I had the chance to do it over again, I'd get the Woodgas Camp Stove (http://www.woodgas-stove.com/?gclid=CJC88uOY8JECFSK9FQodIltmwQ)

I know it's not homemade but I like the concept of helping people with limited resources utilize those resources more efficiently.

I have a Zzip stove but if I had the chance to do it over again, I'd get the Woodgas Camp Stove (http://www.woodgas-stove.com/?gclid=CJC88uOY8JECFSK9FQodIltmwQ)

I know it's not homemade but I like the concept of helping people with limited resources utilize those resources more efficiently.


Why do you think you would want the WoodGas over the Zip? From reading the reviews of the Zip it seems well liked.

I like the Zzip. But proceeds from the WoodGas go towards under-resourced areas of the world.

Anyone think of sacrificing a 500ml Ti cup to build a mini version of the zip? Been thinking about this...

Anyone think of sacrificing a 500ml Ti cup to build a mini version of the zip? Been thinking about this...

Years ago. Not worth the money for the weight savings, IMO.

And don't tell the outfitter what you have planned until you're most of the way out the door and have a good headstart.

And don't tell the outfitter what you have planned until you're most of the way out the door and have a good headstart.


LOL

I like the zip stove. Once you get past the learning curve and learn the optimum way to use the stove it's great. It is very nice to not think about fuel needs.

I'm interested in making my own wood burning stoves. It would be extremely beneficial for me if anyone wanted to talk about their own home brew wood burning stoves. Pictures would be amazing, links would be great. Also, anyone who has a commercially purchased wood burning stove that perhaps has some concepts that you find worth paying for instead of building it yourself.

List of preferred materials would be great :D
I don't want to buy fuel, but I also don't want to make a new burn scar in shenendoah np everytime I pitch camp. Most of you know open fires are banned out there. The alcohol stove I manufactured is awesome but I don't even want to worry about carrying fuel. I want to spend what little extra money I have getting to the woods and not on gear I'm not even sure will be right for me.

Thanks - d0tsl4sh

If you are still interested in making your own, try this one: http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17377&highlight=hobo+stove

Don't bother with the Zip stove!!!!!! Unless you need a boat anchor!!!!!:banana

Go all the way to the top, get a Bushbuddy. It's only a dollar or two more.:banana

Sierra zip stove is my primary backpacking stove..............There are many miles mine has endured inside the pack. Unlike the section hike of two years ago the jet didn't clog, I didn't worry about leaking white gas and fuel was plentiful. A quick tip....soak come cotton balls in petroleum jelly and keep them in a zip lock bag. Just break one off and light in the stove....great starter method. the stove also packs away neatly in my cook pans...sweet set up indeed.

wudhipy:sun:sun:sun:sun

I'm actually meeting this afternoon with a sheet metal fabricator to talk about bringing out a line of lightweight woodburning stoves for heating and cooking inside a tent. The stove will be similar to the Kifaru and TI Goat stoves, but with improvements in both build quality, efficiency, and price (hopefully!).

If there's any interest here, I'll post how the project's coming along.

I'm actually meeting this afternoon with a sheet metal fabricator to talk about bringing out a line of lightweight woodburning stoves for heating and cooking inside a tent. The stove will be similar to the Kifaru and TI Goat stoves, but with improvements in both build quality, efficiency, and price (hopefully!).

If there's any interest here, I'll post how the project's coming along.

I am keenly interested in such a project.

wood burning stoves are da bomb!

I have the zip stove...and I love it.
I am sure there are just as good or even better DIY wood stoves out there but the thing that I love about the zip is something I would never leave off of a DIY model...the fan.

For me, the fan is key. I can really get a blaze going with the fan on high and I never worry about wet wood. With my Vaseline cotton balls and the fan on high I can burn pretty much anything..wet or dry.

...and while we are at it...whats the big deal about your pots getting dirty...your camping! You are supposed to be dirty. Whats next...I don't like hiking tall mountains..it makes me too smelly. :bse

I'm actually meeting this afternoon with a sheet metal fabricator to talk about bringing out a line of lightweight woodburning stoves for heating and cooking inside a tent. The stove will be similar to the Kifaru and TI Goat stoves, but with improvements in both build quality, efficiency, and price (hopefully!).

If there's any interest here, I'll post how the project's coming along.

Heck yeah man, keep me informed.

I need to grab my zip stove and go out this weekend and burn one.

wood burning stoves are da bomb!

I have the zip stove...and I love it.
I am sure there are just as good or even better DIY wood stoves out there but the thing that I love about the zip is something I would never leave off of a DIY model...the fan.

For me, the fan is key. I can really get a blaze going with the fan on high and I never worry about wet wood. With my Vaseline cotton balls and the fan on high I can burn pretty much anything..wet or dry.

...and while we are at it...whats the big deal about your pots getting dirty...your camping! You are supposed to be dirty. Whats next...I don't like hiking tall mountains..it makes me too smelly. :bse


You can make a home made stove with a fan, I did and it puts out a very strong flame. Drying wood is no problem. If a person is mechanically inclined a fan powered wood stove is easily made. And it’s fun to put work out the design, build and then use. :sun


http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index= 1&timer=&PictDisp=0 (http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index=1&timer=&PictDisp=0)

You can make a home made stove with a fan, I did and it puts out a very strong flame. Drying wood is no problem. If a person is mechanically inclined a fan powered wood stove is easily made. And it’s fun to put work out the design, build and then use. :sun


http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index= 1&timer=&PictDisp=0 (http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index=1&timer=&PictDisp=0)


Next time you fire it up your potstand will be consumed. http://photos.toast.net/slideshow.asp?user=n8spi&album=Wood%20Stove&index=9&timer=&PictDisp=0

That’s why I made a set out of stainless steel. The first one made out of aluminum did melt the first time I used it.

CH4-I have a Stratus Trailstove. It is a woodstove without a fan. It comes with a tube you blow through to create the "fan". If one loads it correctly with wood to start it works great. Most people overload it. It is all stainless stell and sells for about $20.00

Zelph I can tell you are a fellow stoveoholic, I’m always playing around making things in the garage.

Maybe we should form a help group “ stoveoholics anonymous.”

Hi Bob, help is on the way!!!!!!

There is a "help group" that meets every day at www.bplite.com (http://www.bplite.com) We do everything we can to help you succeed at making stoves.:D

Stoveoholics are good people. We encourage stove making as a therapy for the winter time blahs and to help those with "Cabin Fever"

Everyone is welcome, even the ones that use Commerciallly made stoves.:)

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Hi Bob, help is on the way!!!!!!

There is a "help group" that meets every day at www.bplite.com (http://www.bplite.com) We do everything we can to help you succeed at making stoves.:D

Stoveoholics are good people. We encourage stove making as a therapy for the winter time blahs and to help those with "Cabin Fever"

Everyone is welcome, even the ones that use Commerciallly made stoves.:)

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You know every time I go out to the garage to make a stove or play with a camping item I have a smile on my face. :D

Have any of you looked at Bushbuddy at http://bushbuddy.ca/indexs.html , these are the people who created the stove for Ryan Jordan's Artic 1000 Trek in 2006, i have been thinking about possibly getting this stove

Zelph - Nice job on the woodstove!

i'm in the process of making my 1st wood stove - a simple coffee can twig stove :D i'm excited

Zelph et al: I'm interested in the WoodGas stove because the proceeds go towards providing gasification stoves for under-resourced areas of the world. SO... in my explorations of this topic I found this site: http://www.repp.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/index.htm
Scroll down about 2/3's of the page and will you look at that: an aluminum can alcohol stove! Hey, did you ever think your tinkerings would help solve the resource problems of the world? Great job, y'all.

Zelph et al: I'm interested in the WoodGas stove because the proceeds go towards providing gasification stoves for under-resourced areas of the world. SO... in my explorations of this topic I found this site: http://www.repp.org/discussiongroups/resources/stoves/index.htm
Scroll down about 2/3's of the page and will you look at that: an aluminum can alcohol stove! Hey, did you ever think your tinkerings would help solve the resource problems of the world? Great job, y'all.

All for a good cause. Certainly, anyone interested in wood-gas stoves should strongly think of purchasing one offered by the members of the organization.

I was happy to see an updated description/terminology being used in the quoted preface (Highlighted in red):
(quote)
RICE HUSK
GAS STOVE
HANDBOOK
Alexis T. Belonio
With “Preface” by Paul S. Anderson

PREFACE
The importance of this “Handbook” and the work of Engr. Alexis
Belonio should not be underestimated. I have been given the honor to write
this Preface, and my intent is to illustrate the importance of this work.
The search for technology for clean combustion of low-value dry
biomass in small stoves suitable for residential cooking has been ongoing
for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. One relatively new technology
was identified and initiated in 1985 by Dr. Thomas B. Reed. He originally
called it “Inverted DownDraft” (IDD) gasification, but recently we have also
called it “Top-Lit UpDraft” (T-LUD) gasification, a name that more clearly
denotes what is actually happening in this combustion technology. The terms
“gasifier” and “gasification” refer to having any type of combustible gases
from dry biomass created distinctly separate from the combustion of
those gases, even if the separation is only a few millimeters and/or milliseconds.
Developments and adaptations of Dr. Reed’s IDD or T-LUD
technology during the past twenty years have been slow, mainly without
commercial products, but discussed and shown occasionally as a
combustion curiosity on every inhabited continent.(end quote)


From this day forward all backpacking wood burning stoves will be prefaced by T-LUD:D

Zelph's T-LUD wood-gassifier stove, also known as :D

whenever I try to access bplite.com in Firefox, it pulls up a blank page.

Me too.

Then I tried using IE. Still got the blank page.

Must be a prob with the site, not the browser.

I'm actually meeting this afternoon with a sheet metal fabricator to talk about bringing out a line of lightweight woodburning stoves for heating and cooking inside a tent. The stove will be similar to the Kifaru and TI Goat stoves, but with improvements in both build quality, efficiency, and price (hopefully!).

If there's any interest here, I'll post how the project's coming along.

You gotta check out the Four Dog titanium stove:

http://www.fourdog.com/cat_files/Page304.htm

Check out the Bannerman stove.

whenever I try to access bplite.com in Firefox, it pulls up a blank page.

Me too.

Then I tried using IE. Still got the blank page.

Must be a prob with the site, not the browser.

We've been down a few days.

Hopefully it'll be back up soon.

I e mail him 2 days ago zelph said someone is working on it.

I have been working on a wood stove concept for too long without building something. I am way behind Zelph and others on this, but I want to try something to see why it doesn't work or isn't practical. Basically a hobbo stove, but with insulated sides and bottom so I can maybe make it smaller. Also I want to make it taller so it will draft well, but narrow enough in diameter to fit into a bottle holster. Making it tall makes it tippy so I might need some sort of stays. I am not sure if I will need secondary combustion air or not. I suppose you might call it a pocket rocket. See if I can build something and take some pictures.

I have been working on a wood stove concept for too long without building something. I am way behind Zelph and others on this, but I want to try something to see why it doesn't work or isn't practical. Basically a hobbo stove, but with insulated sides and bottom so I can maybe make it smaller. Also I want to make it taller so it will draft well, but narrow enough in diameter to fit into a bottle holster. Making it tall makes it tippy so I might need some sort of stays. I am not sure if I will need secondary combustion air or not. I suppose you might call it a pocket rocket. See if I can build something and take some pictures.

If you want to make a hobo stove work better with a draft, take a can and put a computer fan on the end of it power it with a 9-volt battery. Then point the draft-can at an air intake, this will give you a lot of extra BTUs of heat. It’s not going to turn it into a gasified stove, but it makes a hotter more ferocious flame.

whenever I try to access bplite.com in Firefox, it pulls up a blank page.

It's being worked on by the best, MidwaySam, He's the head engineer, but it seems as if it is really in a big hurt:confused::o

OK time to come clean, who beoke the bplite site...

Typo, Broke not beoke

OK so now suddenly it's OK if we beeak it?

Zelph! Your PMs are full!

Hopefully the site will not loose any data from being down.

Its up and running now:banana:banana

still comin up blank for me :/

Just tried it, it works for me.

Ok, this is coming from a little of a stove newb so bare with me. I watched the bushbuddy video and asume most of them work in a similar way. I got to ask, why not just cook over a fire? It seems like a lot of work to start a fire in a can, when you can do the same work and get one going on the ground.

Ok, this is coming from a little of a stove newb so bare with me. I watched the bushbuddy video and asume most of them work in a similar way. I got to ask, why not just cook over a fire? It seems like a lot of work to start a fire in a can, when you can do the same work and get one going on the ground.That's a fair question. It actually takes more work to gather fuel and prepare a fire on the ground. It also takes more time for it to simmer down to the point where you can cook over it. This is especially true with wet ground or snow on the ground. With a Kelly Kettle you can have 750ml of boiling hot water within 10 minutes of stopping with just a handful of bark and spruce sticks. With a well designed and built hobbo stove you might well achieve the same performance, or close to it, with some additional versatility such as the ability to melt snow, cook, dry stuff, etc. Even if you need a big fire because you have a couple of people that just fell through the ice or something like that you can often get one going more reliably just as fast in wet conditions by making hot tea with a hobbo stove or Kelly Kettle first and then using the coals to get a larger fire going while drinking the hot tea, with lots of honey.

Zelph! Your PMs are full!

Everything is back to norm.

Site is up and running and mailbox is empty.

Google "Dandy little stove" you'll get all you ned to know about the Nomad's wood stove. I've built one - works great!

These things intrigue me. Zelphs globe design looks way cool BUT...please help. For the life of me, I cannot see the globe. Is it in the top part near the top slots? I would assume this as you would be feeding the fire from the bottom.
I may just need new glasses I guess.

oops...this link works...

http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm

http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm

The above stove just looks like an extra tall hobo stove. Is there more to it than just two cans stacked on top of each other?

:-)

http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove.htm

The above stove just looks like an extra tall hobo stove. Is there more to it than just two cans stacked on top of each other?

:-)

:confused:Cant you read it says two piece:confused:

These things intrigue me. Zelphs globe design looks way cool BUT...please help. For the life of me, I cannot see the globe. Is it in the top part near the top slots? I would assume this as you would be feeding the fire from the bottom.
I may just need new glasses I guess.
The globe is a lantern globe. What it basically is - is a replacement for a glass globe made from wire mesh like a mosquito-proof screen door. The holes near the top are larger so you can feed and adjust the sticks inide. The holes at the bottom are not really needed that much, at least not in my experience. The thing is like a light, portable cook fire stand. It is about right for putting a liter pot on top of under most normal cookfires. It can weaken under a very hot fire with a pot on top. There is no fancy air flow with the stove - the whole thing lets air in. For an ounce an a half you get a good device for managing a stick fire for cooking.

These things intrigue me. Zelphs globe design looks way cool BUT...please help. For the life of me, I cannot see the globe. Is it in the top part near the top slots? I would assume this as you would be feeding the fire from the bottom.
I may just need new glasses I guess.

The term "globe" was used to name the stove because it's made from a replacement "globe" instaed of a glass globe that is normally used on coleman type lanterns they went to stainless steel mesh replacements because they didn't break like the glass ones. I converted the ss globe into a wood burner. Works great!!!!!! (banana)

Photos show box that globe comes in(read printing on box) got mine at kmart $3.00 on sale.

Stove with round hole works better than rectangular. I use one as windscreen combonation for alchy stove. Rectangular holes work well for feeding wood continuous as a mini campfire.

It's better than J. Falks stove.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/woodstv011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/sofside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/sofside017.jpg


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Stove with round hole works better than rectangular. I use one as windscreen combonation for alchy stove. Rectangular holes work well for feeding wood continuous as a mini campfire. .
OK, you are right. I amend my statement to say that the bottom holes do help adjust the wood.

:confused:Cant you read it says two piece:confused:

Ummm. what with the attitude??? ..yeah I can read (maybe not spell though)....

and yeas...I know its two piece. Duh! I can see that even without reading. All you got to do is look at the pictures to tell that its two pieces.

Anywhoo.... It looks like TWO cans stacked on top of each other to make and extra tall hobo stove. Is that what makes this stove so good? Or is there something I can not glean from the photos?

http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/IM003020a.gif

OK, you are right. I amend my statement to say that the bottom holes do help adjust the wood.

Our posts were seconds apart:)

The rectangular one was my first one made. My second was the round holed one. One filling of the stove was adequate to boil 2 cups without adding twigs. I get hung up sometimes on making sure stoves have enough oxygen:)

I then went to using the stove(no holes) raised with tent stakes on the bottom and tent stakes laying on the top to raise up the pot bit to allow for free flow of the flames. Using charcoal briquetts to cook a steak was fun. 4 briquetts got it well done. Doing the steak thing was just for the heck of it. It's fun making stoves and passing the info on.

OH! DUH! Sometmes, the obvious defies me. I've never seen one of these and I just bought a glass replacement I broke for the Coleman. Dumbness by association I guess...
So is this a main stove for anyone? Would I pack it the same as I do my Pocket Rocket, down inside my pot? Would it be more of a hassle to use than a PR? Take more time to get it going? How about soot?
I don't think I'd worry about weight on the thing as all I do normally is boil water anyway.
For $3, this is worth checking out.

OH! DUH! Sometmes, the obvious defies me. I've never seen one of these and I just bought a glass replacement I broke for the Coleman. Dumbness by association I guess...
So is this a main stove for anyone? Would I pack it the same as I do my Pocket Rocket, down inside my pot? Would it be more of a hassle to use than a PR? Take more time to get it going? How about soot?
I don't think I'd worry about weight on the thing as all I do normally is boil water anyway.
For $3, this is worth checking out.

It's my main campfire stove. It easily keeps the wood fuel contained. prevents alot of sparks from flying off and about. Only leaves a small footprint ring which my shoe easily erases. 99 percent soot free and I can only speculate that it gets burned off during the fire process. Creosote will form on the pot but not on the mesh and I don't know why.:-?

Anyone that wants to use wood as their fuel needs to practice finding dry kindling and larger twigs. Building your fire takes practice. Many seasoned wood users will tell you that. You need to practice before you go out on the trails.

EMAN, make one of these and practice using it, you'll be glad you did. Once mastered, then you can decide if you want to pack it inside your pot.

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