Standing Indian Loop

[Two Speed]

Skidsteer and I are planning a three day hike around the Standing Indian loop over Memorial Day weekend.

Basically the hike starts at the kiosk at the parking lot in Standing Indian campground, takes the Kimsey Creek Trail up to the AT at Deep Gap, then runs the AT north over Standing Indian and Albert Mtns, then picks up the Long Branch Trail at Glassmine Gap and returns to the parking lot. IIRC it's about 33, maybe 34 miles. I can say it's some fairly moderate trail; there is the grade up to Standing Indian, and the scramble up Albert Mtn is a classic, but overall some pretty mild hiking.

So far no detailed planning. I'm proposing kicking off at the kiosk at 10:00 AM Saturday morning.

Come on and get away from your computer for the weekend!

[Survivor Dave]

If I'm healed up enough, I'd like to go. It will be cutting it kinda close though.

I'd love to do that section. I did the Kimsey instead of the Albert Mountain route to get to Franklin to help out there.

I see you live in Marietta, Roswell here. Possible ride share?

I'll keep you posted.

Survivor Dave

[Two Speed]

Ride share is good, as long as you don't mind my dog. We can take my truck. It already smells like a wet dog. :cool:

[peanuts]

well guys have a great weekend!:)

[Survivor Dave]

Dogs are cool. I hiked with a few....had a few. Let me see how the foot is.

SD



Ride share is good, as long as you don't mind my dog. We can take my truck. It already smells like a wet dog. :cool:

[orangebug]

That is a very nice loop for a weekend. If you are up for a real climb, try the lower ridge trail up Standing Indian instead of the wussy Kimsey Creek Trail. Pretty much straight up with few markings, no water and no end in sight.

[CrumbSnatcher]

That is a very nice loop for a weekend. If you are up for a real climb, try the lower ridge trail up Standing Indian instead of the wussy Kimsey Creek Trail. Pretty much straight up with few markings, no water and no end in sight.
i think the kimsey creek trail is nice,how could you not like a water trail?i would hike this sobo and finish on the k.c.t. have a great weekend...

[Marta]

I think the mileage is more like 22-24. When I hiked it in March, it took about 14 hours of hiking, total, which included generous rest stops (cooked lunch), and waiting for a friend who had overpacked. (He had a wooden stool! And a Coleman lantern!!!) You'll have plenty of time to play.

[Gray Blazer]

That is a very nice loop for a weekend. If you are up for a real climb, try the lower ridge trail up Standing Indian instead of the wussy Kimsey Creek Trail. Pretty much straight up with few markings, no water and no end in sight.
I've heard that was a killer. How many miles/elevationn gain?

[Skidsteer]

I've heard that was a killer. How many miles/elevationn gain?

Pretty easy, actually, and decent views as a reward.

[Two Speed]

I think the mileage is more like 22-24. When I hiked it in March, it took about 14 hours of hiking, total, which included generous rest stops (cooked lunch), and waiting for a friend who had overpacked. (He had a wooden stool! And a Coleman lantern!!!) You'll have plenty of time to play.Just scaled it and it does look more like 22 - 24 miles. Wonder where I got 30+ from?

Ah well, more time to play.

[take-a-knee]

Just scaled it and it does look more like 22 - 24 miles. Wonder where I got 30+ from?

Ah well, more time to play.

The ladies are usually right, especially Marta.

[Two Speed]

Yup. Short enough even you could make it. ;)

[Skidsteer]

Does this mean I can sleep in?

[Two Speed]

Sure. Always pass me up about 2:00 anyway so I'd appreciate the head start.

[orangebug]

Nothing not to like with KCT, just that the lower Ridge Trail is a major gonad crusher. I don't recall a single view until you got to the summit.

It is a hell of a lot of fun running down with light pack.

[Two Speed]

Nothing not to like with KCT, just that the lower Ridge Trail is a major gonad crusher. . .I didn't realize that was your idea of a good time. :eek:

[Marta]

The ladies are usually right, especially Marta.

Thanks!

Since my morning post disappeared, I'll have to make the offer again...

Would you like my advice on whom to vote for in the upcoming election?:D

[take-a-knee]

Thanks!

Since my morning post disappeared, I'll have to make the offer again...

Would you like my advice on whom to vote for in the upcoming election?:D

No because they'll ban both of us.

[CrumbSnatcher]

:)great hike, wadda ya going to do on the second and third day.

[Egads]

recuperate:D

[Egads]

Then recuperate from the recuperating:banana

[Skidsteer]

:)great hike, wadda ya going to do on the second and third day.

Show-off :D.

[CrumbSnatcher]

Show-off :D.
i'm not a show-off, i'm a smartass! sorry

[Two Speed]

No because they'll ban both of us.Aaaand then you'd have to come hiking with the crowd, right? I'm not seeing a down side to this . . . take-a-knee , as soon as you can cut loose c'mon and go for a hike. Being the kinda guy I am I'll even forgive you for being a conservative and everything. ;)

Gonna repeat the invitation: come one, come all. It's a great hike, a beautiful section, and if you have a need for trail you can do a side trip on the Chunky Gal or something.

[Bulldawg]

Wow, at the shortened version, if I weren't already committed, I'd be there in a heart beat. I can handle 10 miles per day. So at 3 days, 8 miles per day, if it was a different weekend, I'd be rolling in there.

[Two Speed]

There will be a next time, much like the Coosa Backcountry.

[Bulldawg]

Everytime I think Coosa, my thigh hurts just a little!!

[Two Speed]

So many replies I could make, all so wrong in so many ways.

[Bulldawg]

So many replies I could make, all so wrong in so many ways.

WTH, let's hear the cleanest one you can muster up???:eek::eek::eek:

[Two Speed]

Umm, ain't got one of them handy.

Sooo, when you comin' on another Skids & TS hike?

[Bulldawg]

I dunno, already committed for the weekend of the Standing Indian loop, so it won't be that one. I have to work this Saturday. Then I am taking the wife out of town for some adult time the next weekend. Then to my sister's high school graduation the next weekend. Then work again the following weekend. So it is looking like first week of June for me to be out again for an overnight anyway. And I am seriously considering the Hogpen to Unicoi AT section with my daughter that weekend. What can anyone here tell me about that section? Not to hi jack the thread or anything!?!? She can handle 7 or 8 miles per day. We did the Neels to Hogpen section one year ago in 6 hours, so she is a fairly decent hiker for a 7 year old.

[Two Speed]

Hijack away. Never stopped me, so I don't see why it should stop you.

Gonna get Savanah out for a hike? Way cool. What can I do to help?

[Bulldawg]

Hijack away. Never stopped me, so I don't see why it should stop you.

Gonna get Savanah out for a hike? Way cool. What can I do to help?

LOL, ok, her and I have talked and we think she can handle the Hogpen to Unicoi section in a weekend. I know now that her old dad can. It seems pretty flat with two climbs, one in the beginning, one at the end. The descent into Unicoi Gap looks brutal on the elevation map, so I gotta know. I wonder if Springer parking lot like over to somewhere 10 or 11 miles past there would be better for her. It doesn't work as pretty logistically for us with gas at $3.61 per gallon and possibly $4 by then for someone to have to come shuttle us that far away from home. The Unicoi Gap option is much better from that viewpoint. The thru hikers I asked about that section this week were all pretty much clueless. You've seen her hike TS, what do you think, 8 miles day one, 6 miles day two? She can handle it I think.

[Two Speed]

Talk to Skids about the trail, talk to me about shuttles. If we're talking about the weekend after Memorial Day we might be able to spot vehicles at each end.

To sweeten the offer I'll even taper off on the Undrinkium and constrain my language.

[Two Speed]

Oops, just caught the question directed at me. Keep her load light and she'll do fine. If I were you I'd worry more about her father.

[Bulldawg]

Talk to Skids about the trail, talk to me about shuttles. If we're talking about the weekend after Memorial Day we might be able to spot vehicles at each end.

To sweeten the offer I'll even taper off on the Undrinkium and constrain my language.

We'll discuss it. Right now I gotta go to bed so I can get the grass cut before the storms roll in later tomorrow.

[Bulldawg]

Oops, just caught the question directed at me. Keep her load light and she'll do fine. If I were you I'd worry more about her father.

Oh yeah, I was thinking she carries her bag, her hammock, her water, and her toiletries. Dad carries all the food, etc. I think I can keep her close to 9 or 10 pounds. She weighs about 60 or 65, so I am thinking that is fairly good.

[Two Speed]

Looks like you're on the right track.

'Kay, back to business. Who's got what it takes to jump on the big, bad Kimsey Creek Trail - AT - Long Branch trip?

[Bulldawg]

Take these guys up on this hike folks. These two are fun and pretty daggum knowledgeable at the same exact time. If I weren't committed to a family thing in Augusta, GA that weekend, I'd be there.

[Ghosthiker]

Well, I just may be available. Need to break in some new boots some, before then. Just had to bail out of a 4 day trip because of the old ones. Let me check and I'll let you know on the 10th, at dinner.

[Marta]

David and I are in the planning stages for that weekend. A friend is setting up a trip to do a section of the Foothills Trail that I haven't hiked yet, but also planning low miles.

The thing is, I really need to be covering some ground to prepare for hiking with a couple of young folks in Glacier in June. A leisurely Mem. Day stroll is probably not what I should be doing to get ready to hit the CDT with two spring chickens.

[Two Speed]

Well, I just may be available. Need to break in some new boots some, before then. Just had to bail out of a 4 day trip because of the old ones. Let me check and I'll let you know on the 10th, at dinner.Sounds like a plan.
. . . The thing is, I really need to be covering some ground to prepare for hiking with a couple of young folks in Glacier in June. A leisurely Mem. Day stroll is probably not what I should be doing to get ready to hit the CDT with two spring chickens.Uh, Skids, I think we've just been dissed.

Marta, for the record, there's more to this than a leisurely stroll. Sometimes we kick it up a notch and stumble a little, so there. :p

[Marta]

Marta, for the record, there's more to this than a leisurely stroll.

Yeah, there's the resting that has to take place between the strolling.

[Skidsteer]

Marta, you could just take two laps to our one-you know-for training purposes.

[peanuts]

man oh man, this sounds soo tempting! but....

[Hoop]

I fell victim to the hiking bug recently, and I've come to accept the condition. Some say it can be acute or chronic - I hope it's both. My first jaunt in the woods a couple of weeks ago for a few days in north GA was top shelf, and I'm looking forward to more (a week in July!). Like some others reading this thread I've muttered, 'dang it I can't go because', so I hope to see another notice for a future date. Joining in spirit...

[Ghosthiker]

Hoop rat, Check out the Get Together section and meet us for dinner next week.

[Doughnut]

My brother (never hiked) will be in Atlanta and wants to go camping that weekend. I thinkn we will join you.

Dough Nut

[Ghosthiker]

Sounds like a plan.

I've checked my calendar and I am good to go. I have a Cherokee we can carpool in and dogs are welcome.

[Survivor Dave]

Two Speed, I wasn't sure if I was still riding with you if I go. Please let me know. I was thinking about maybe driving to Franklin ad getting a ride to Deep Gap, but that's alot of scratch.
Ghosthiker, are you going with Two Speed?

SD

[Two Speed]

I fell victim to the hiking bug recently . . . Yeah, I'm pretty sure there'll be another trip. Might be in the fall before we do this particular one, though. Skids and I do the Coosa Backcountry (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27600) more often, so you may want to consider one of those trips in the meantime.
I've checked my calendar and I am good to go. I have a Cherokee we can carpool in and dogs are welcome.
Two Speed, I wasn't sure if I was still riding with you if I go. Please let me know. I was thinking about maybe driving to Franklin ad getting a ride to Deep Gap, but that's alot of scratch.
Ghosthiker, are you going with Two Speed?

SDOkay, that explains the PM; sorry, been at my brother's helping him with a project and haven't been keeping track today. SD, if you come to the WB dinner (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35168&page=7&highlight=atlanta) at Nik's we can work out the details then.
My brother (never hiked) will be in Atlanta and wants to go camping that weekend. I thinkn we will join you.

Dough NutSkids, looks like we're getting a pretty good crowd. I think we may want to do a head count a couple of days before the weekend.

[Bulldawg]

If my deal in Augusta falls through, I might want to join. Assuming I could ride with Skids or somebody? This is starting to sound exciting!

[Ghosthiker]

Well, I live in Canton and he is in Marietta, I think. I was just offering another option after Two Speed offered his truck with his dog. I just figured I'd offer my Cherokee and his dog was welcome, too. That way it'd three of us in one vehicle. We'll work it out before we leave. :D

[Skidsteer]

Skids, looks like we're getting a pretty good crowd. I think we may want to do a head count a couple of days before the weekend.

I'm pretty much good with anything that involves suspending the one mile shelter drinking radius.


If my deal in Augusta falls through, I might want to join. Assuming I could ride with Skids or somebody? This is starting to sound exciting!

You bet.

[Two Speed]

I'm pretty much good with anything that involves suspending the one mile shelter drinking radius.As long as we substitute a rule of not camping within a mile of a shelter we're good to go. I know a holy man from another thread (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18685) that can give us dispensation if we need it.

[fredmugs]

I did a similar hike and somehow managed to get off the Kimsey Creek trail and ended up on the forest road about 3 miles north of Deep Gap. I think I turned that into a 27 mile day.

Easy day hike.

[springerfever]

I envy you guys. This is one of my favorite areas. In fact, probably MY favorite, within a short distance of Atlanta. Late May and Early June is particularly spectacular with the rhododendron and native azaleas in bloom.

If you have any time to kill a short side trip over to Pickens Nose is a nice add-on.

Added bonus is the ability to just use one car and do a full loop in and out of S.I. Campground. Have fun and give us a trip report !

[Bulldawg]

God, I'm getting envious myself.

[Two Speed]

Best way to deal with that envy thing would be to come on the hike.

[Bulldawg]

$hit, I have commitments that weekend, plus, it may be more miles than this old man can handle!!

[peanuts]

ok how many miles r u guys planning to do per day?????

[Skidsteer]

$hit, I have commitments that weekend, plus, it may be more miles than this old man can handle!!

You averaged more miles per day last weekend and don't get us started on old. You're about the same age as Barney. In dog years.

[Two Speed]

I'm glad you handled that, Skids. Way too tempting a target for me.

[Survivor Dave]

You coming to dinner on Sat. Skids?

[Survivor Dave]

21 miles I think the first day and lay around and drink beer the last two.


ok how many miles r u guys planning to do per day?????

[Bulldawg]

21 miles I think the first day and lay around and drink beer the last two.

I guess if I were able to make it then, I'd have to catch you on day 3. Exactly how many miles total have we determined this hike is?

[Two Speed]

23 - 24.

[Bulldawg]

23-24 in three full days? So like 10 miles, 9 miles, and 5 miles? Or are we talking like 5 miles, 10 miles, 9 miles? Whats the schedule here? If I decide I can go, should I make an itinerary? You've seen my itineraries, they are top shelf!!

[bloodmountainman]

Just a suggestion.. 8,8,and 8.

[Two Speed]

Yes, please bring a very detailed itinerary. Skids really needs help getting organized.

[Bulldawg]

Don't laugh at me about be organized. This hike I just did was really much easier IMO by my knowing exactly where I was every minute and having a goal to look forward to next. The very first time I ever went hiking, I just drove to the trail and went. I had walked like an hour and thought I was much much further than I really was. The little itinerary you had a copy of, I printed that thing folded it up and put it in my shorts pocket. Ever 45 minutes or so, I'd pull it out. It has times of arrival at the landmarks, notes about the hike, etc. written all over it. I put it up, hoping it might be worth lots of money someday.:eek::eek::D:D:D:D

[Two Speed]

I'm sure it will. BTW, does this mean you're making the hike?

[Bulldawg]

Just a suggestion.. 8,8,and 8.

I am thinking daily mileages will depend heavily on time of arrival at destination and planned time of arrival back at that destination! I mean, if we (if I go, which I am leaning towards now) don't arrival at the starting spot until like 2PM, I can't hike 8 miles in the mountains before I need to make camp.

TS, can I have the location of the starting point and trails planned to be used to make the loop please sir?

[Bulldawg]

Oh yeah, tentative ETA at starting trailhead on Saturday.

[Two Speed]

Backcountry Kiosk at the Standing Indian campground. Let me rumble around a little and I can do better, I think.

It's on the Bly Gap - Fontana Dam map that came with your Georgia maps.

[Two Speed]

Starting time is tentatively set as 10:00 AM Saturday morning. Weren't you going to ride up with Skids?

More details about the campground here (http://www.recreation.gov/camping/Standing_Indian_Campground_Nc/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=75077).

[Bulldawg]

hike through the campground area to Kimsey
Creek
> trail. Follow it about 4 miles to Deep Gap, where you will take
the AT to
> the left. This is southerly in direction but heading north an the
AT, approx 18 miles. To
> exit out, take the Long Branch Trail about 2 miles directly back
to the
> car. Almost no road hiking this way. The total loop is a little
over 24
> miles.

RIGHT???
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[Bulldawg]

It's on the Bly Gap - Fontana Dam map that came with your Georgia maps.


Yes, that map seems to have grown legs and walked right out of my house!!:eek::eek:

[Two Speed]

Yep, that's the one. Great views, the only terrain close to the Coosa Backcountry is the slope up Albert Mtn, and there's a "bad weather" route around that.

[Bulldawg]

Well climbs don't bother me, I did make it thru that section last week. The ones that seem to get me are the one's that start at wolf creek and virtually don't stop until like 5 miles later at Coosa Bald!!

[Bulldawg]

Yep, that's the one. Great views, .

Speaking of views, your opinion here. I am thinking of starting to try to sell some of my pictures. If I start it as a business, I could write off all my hiking expenses, gas to trailheads, etc. Think there is a market for mountain views in print? Or is that market like over saturated? Just a thought that entered my mid today when I was supposed to be working!!

[Skidsteer]

You coming to dinner on Sat. Skids?

No, someone must pay me to drive in Atlanta.


21 miles I think the first day and lay around and drink beer the last two.

I like that.


Yes, please bring a very detailed itinerary. Skids really needs help getting organized.

That does it. I'm bringing a Blackberry.


Don't laugh at me about be organized. This hike I just did was really much easier IMO by my knowing exactly where I was every minute and having a goal to look forward to next. The very first time I ever went hiking, I just drove to the trail and went. I had walked like an hour and thought I was much much further than I really was. The little itinerary you had a copy of, I printed that thing folded it up and put it in my shorts pocket. Ever 45 minutes or so, I'd pull it out. It has times of arrival at the landmarks, notes about the hike, etc. written all over it. I put it up, hoping it might be worth lots of money someday.:eek::eek::D:D:D:D

I remember doing that section once over July 4th weekend long ago. I wrote out a little cheat sheet to take along but it was soaked through with sweat by the time I climbed Rocky Mtn.


Oh yeah, tentative ETA at starting trailhead on Saturday.

Good deal.

[Bulldawg]

No, someone must pay me to drive in Atlanta.

I hear ya brother!! I hate that place, sorry guys that live there, just a fact!!






That does it. I'm bringing a Blackberry.

I always have my blackberry!!

[Bulldawg]

OK, Im out for a few minutes, gotta find my NC maps and get started on an itinerary!!

[Two Speed]

That does it. I'm bringing a Blackberry.Cool. I always run out of skippin' stones.
OK, Im out for a few minutes, gotta find my NC maps and get started on an itinerary!!I'm nominating Bulldawg as the Master of the Itinerary for this hike. Can I get a second on that motion?

[Skidsteer]

I'm nominating Bulldawg as the Master of the Itinerary for this hike. Can I get a second on that motion?

Second!

[Bulldawg]

Good god, my wife and her "cleaning up". You would think that if I left a map laying somewhere, when I wanted it 4 months later, that is where it would be!!!!!!! I love her, but Jesus, sometimes I could, oh never mind!!!

[Skidsteer]

Good god, my wife and her "cleaning up". You would think that if I left a map laying somewhere, when I wanted it 4 months later, that is where it would be!!!!!!! I love her, but Jesus, sometimes I could, oh never mind!!!

You'll get used to it.

Or you'll have a lot more time for hiking.

[Two Speed]

I'm nominating Bulldawg as the Master of the Itinerary for this hike. Can I get a second on that motion?

Second!I think this matter is up for a vote. Can we get an "aye" if in favor, a "nay" if not?

[Skidsteer]

I think this matter is up for a vote. Can we get an "aye" if in favor, a "nay" if not?

Aye.

But no promises about actually following it..

[Two Speed]

Good enough for me. Bulldawg, as Master of the Itinerary it's your duty to put the itinerary together for us.

BTW, Skids, I'm with you, ain't makin' no promises. The cool part is if we don't make it out on time we can blame Bulldawg! Ready made excuses rule!

[Bulldawg]

Well, I will accept the duty, but it very well may involve me buying another set of NC maps. I will get the wife on the case tomorrow night. She probably knows where she put it. On the plus side, in all of my plundering through the house just now, I found a box of ammo I thought I had already shot up!!

[Two Speed]

All's well that ends well.

[Bulldawg]

Tentative Itinerary Attached!!!:-?:-?

[Bulldawg]

This was done using my Appalachian Pages Guide book. Maybe will change after getting to see an elevation profile and official AT map.

[Ghosthiker]

Dang, I take a few hours off and this thread jumps 2 pages, elects a MOI and has this trip planned out.

[Two Speed]

Crap, now we gotta schedule a fight (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=616495&postcount=11).

[Gray Blazer]

Speaking of views, your opinion here. I am thinking of starting to try to sell some of my pictures. If I start it as a business, I could write off all my hiking expenses, gas to trailheads, etc. Think there is a market for mountain views in print? Or is that market like over saturated? Just a thought that entered my mid today when I was supposed to be working!!

Sell em on Ebay. Larry, TOW is trying to sell some of mine.

[Bulldawg]

Crap, now we gotta schedule a fight (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=616495&postcount=11).

Which day on the itinerary would you like to schedule that for? How long do you think it is going to take? Also, will the fight be brutal enough so as to slow down our progress??

:D:D:D:D

[Bulldawg]

Sell em on Ebay. Larry, TOW is trying to sell some of mine.

Let me know how that works out?

[Two Speed]

Which day on the itinerary would you like to schedule that for? How long do you think it is going to take? Also, will the fight be brutal enough so as to slow down our progress??

:D:D:D:DUh, you're the Master of the Itinerary. I'm just a poor holy man acting as the spiritual advisor to this pack of brutal thugs.

Which reminds me, I'll prolly need to hang onto everyone's liquor while the fightin' is going on. Don't want spill any liquor and be guilty of alcohol abuse, do we?

Now, if we can just figger out how to carry a pool table with us . . . :-?

[Survivor Dave]

Well, seeing that you appointed an MOI, why don't you appoint an entertainment director as well? They would be able to roll the keg along with hauling the pool table. Maybe a board of directors for laughs? This is about hiking, right? LOL:D
Should be interesting conversation at the restaurant for sure with all of you slightly psychotic hikers.

I'll be taking Buff Jeff to Amicalola on Friday afternoon.

Can't wait to hike. Foot feels better every day.

SD



Uh, you're the Master of the Itinerary. I'm just a poor holy man acting as the spiritual advisor to this pack of brutal thugs.

Which reminds me, I'll prolly need to hang onto everyone's liquor while the fightin' is going on. Don't want spill any liquor and be guilty of alcohol abuse, do we?

Now, if we can just figger out how to carry a pool table with us . . . :-?

[Two Speed]

Well, actually the MotI kinda volunteered, and didn't have the good sense to call in sick when Skids and I shanghai'd the poor boy.

However, there is the germ of a good idea in all that. What say we put the pool table on top of the kegs, and use the kegs as rollers? That'll make pushing the pool table up Standing Indian much easier and will also make the kegs multi-use, which we all know is the core concept of lightweight hiking.

[Survivor Dave]

You see......... You have what it takes to be Entertainment Director.......We ALL second the motion....You're Hired! The keg will be in YOUR truck right? LOL



Well, actually the MotI kinda volunteered, and didn't have the good sense to call in sick when Skids and I shanghai'd the poor boy.

However, there is the germ of a good idea in all that. What say we put the pool table on top of the kegs, and use the kegs as rollers? That'll make pushing the pool table up Standing Indian much easier and will also make the kegs multi-use, which we all know is the core concept of lightweight hiking.

[Two Speed]

You see......... You have what it takes to be Entertainment Director.......We ALL second the motion....You're Hired! The keg will be in YOUR truck right? LOLCoupla little problems with that.

First, I have my hands full as the spiritual advisor to this sorry band of misfits. Second, what makes you think I'd show up if the keg was in my truck. Last, even if I did show up we're carpooling with Ghosthiker, so we'd have to find some poor soul to tag as the bozo who forgot the beer.

However, you do seem to be showing promise, so you have my enthusiastic endorsement as Entertainment Director. That puts you in charge of getting the dancing girls.

We're counting on ya.

[Survivor Dave]

Not gonna happen Tonto. I have done enough "directin'" in my life. I'll just kick back and undirect!

I thought I was riding with you and your smelly dog. I figured that the beer would be consolation. Does Camelbak make tap hoses for kegs?
Spiritual Advisor? Now that's funny! Do you mean Distilled Spiritual Advisor? LOL

Oh yeah, as far as the girls, I'll do that part of the dirty work....that be OK with you? I seem to not have trouble with that!
http://209.200.85.146/trailjournals/photos/6430/tj6430%5F032808%5F194754%5F304104.jpg





Coupla little problems with that.

First, I have my hands full as the spiritual advisor to this sorry band of misfits. Second, what makes you think I'd show up if the keg was in my truck. Last, even if I did show up we're carpooling with Ghosthiker, so we'd have to find some poor soul to tag as the bozo who forgot the beer.

However, you do seem to be showing promise, so you have my enthusiastic endorsement as Entertainment Director. That puts you in charge of getting the dancing girls.

We're counting on ya.

[Two Speed]

You da man!

[Bulldawg]

Um, if those are the dancing girls that are coming, then I am in!!

So far as the keg, I ain't hauling no stinking keg up any mountain. I read about somebody in a shelter register last week that carried a case of PBR from Unicoi Gap to Tray Shelter. I was thinking, if ya gonna carry beer that far, at the very least get some beer that is decent!! I mean, I can drink the PBR if I have too. But if I am carrying a case of beer 5.5 miles over two 4000 feet mountains, it's gonna be some damn good beer!!

Anyway, those dancing girls look just right for this trip, I second the nomination of SD as entertainment director.

:banana:banana:banana

[Survivor Dave]

Bulldawg, if you want tot see those girls again, you'll haul the beer! So make room however you'll carry it. LOL


Um, if those are the dancing girls that are coming, then I am in!!

So far as the keg, I ain't hauling no stinking keg up any mountain. I read about somebody in a shelter register last week that carried a case of PBR from Unicoi Gap to Tray Shelter. I was thinking, if ya gonna carry beer that far, at the very least get some beer that is decent!! I mean, I can drink the PBR if I have too. But if I am carrying a case of beer 5.5 miles over two 4000 feet mountains, it's gonna be some damn good beer!!

Anyway, those dancing girls look just right for this trip, I second the nomination of SD as entertainment director.

:banana:banana:banana

[Marta]

Honestly, you guys--6 pages of posts, staying up all night, to plan a li'l bitty hike. By the time Mem Day rolls around, you'll be too tired to actually hike it.

[Marta]

And on a Straight Forward thread, too.

Oops.

[Two Speed]

Honestly, you guys--6 pages of posts, staying up all night, to plan a li'l bitty hike. By the time Mem Day rolls around, you'll be too tired to actually hike it.See? All the exercise we're getting planning this thing you coulda come along and been tired just like we're gonna be.
And on a Straight Forward thread, too.

Oops.No, this is the "Hooking Up" forum, not the "Straigth Forward" forum.

[Skidsteer]

Honestly, you guys--6 pages of posts, staying up all night, to plan a li'l bitty hike. By the time Mem Day rolls around, you'll be too tired to actually hike it.

Very good point. But we got an itinerary out of the deal. :rolleyes:


And on a Straight Forward thread, too.

Oops.

Naw, it's hooking up; It just looks like straight forward.

[Bulldawg]

Staying up half the night? I don't bed down until midnight most any night!! I get all my sleep when I go hiking!

[Ghosthiker]

Hey, they're just discussing what to bring for the trip. That's pretty straight forward to me.:D

[Two Speed]

Ya know, I'm sensing a certain amount of hiker envy in Marta's posts.

Marta, you're still invited. Laughing is good exercise, too.

[Marta]

No, this is the "Hooking Up" forum, not the "Straigth Forward" forum.

Double oops.


Ya know, I'm sensing a certain amount of hiker envy in Marta's posts.

Marta, you're still invited. Laughing is good exercise, too.

It could happen, although DH and I are thinking we ought to look at 35-40 miles for the three days. Maybe do 2/3 of the Foothills Trail...

[Two Speed]

BTW, does anyone making this trip have a Sven saw?. About a year ago I started a thread about wood saws (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20189&page=3). What I'd like to do is run a comparison test while we're on this hike. I've got a Sawvivor and a Gerber saw. I'd like to run a head-to-head comparison between the Sawvivor, Gerber and Sven saws.

Sooo, anyone got a Sven saw they could bring along?

[Survivor Dave]

Will a Makita or Stihl be OK? Well, since you are all gung ho about doing the comparison study, I hereby dub thee Director of Firestarting and Wood Gatherer. You are now dubbed. Good, now I don't need my stove.



BTW, does anyone making this trip have a Sven saw?. About a year ago I started a thread about wood saws (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20189&page=3). What I'd like to do is run a comparison test while we're on this hike. I've got a Sawvivor and a Gerber saw. I'd like to run a head-to-head comparison between the Sawvivor, Gerber and Sven saws.

Sooo, anyone got a Sven saw they could bring along?

[Two Speed]

Will a Makita or Stihl be OK? Well, since you are all gung ho about doing the comparison study, I hereby dub thee Director of Firestarting and Wood Gatherer. You are now dubbed. Good, now I don't need my stove.Long as you don't mind hauling 'em a Makita or Stihl's just fine with me.

[Ghosthiker]

Long as you don't mind hauling 'em a Makita or Stihl's just fine with me.

Just lay them on top of the pool table, it's being rolled along on the kegs, remember?

[Two Speed]

'Kay, gonna get serious for a moment here.

Yeah, I know I'm risking my status as a Bishop of Peacockofascinitism, but really . . .

Anyone got a Sven saw?

[Ghosthiker]

I am going to have to miss this trip. Things change today and it seems I will be working that weekend.

Dang, I hate this. :mad:

[Skidsteer]

I am going to have to miss this trip. Things change today and it seems I will be working that weekend.

Dang, I hate this. :mad:

That sucks.

Next time maybe.


'Kay, gonna get serious for a moment here.

Yeah, I know I'm risking my status as a Bishop of Peacockofascinitism, but really . . .

Anyone got a Sven saw?

[sigh]Yes, I have a Sven saw.

[Two Speed]

Cool.

One more question: we meeting at the Whitlock or the Sessions Street location?

[Ghosthiker]

probably should be the Sessions St. location. I think the bar is empty at Whitlock.

[Survivor Dave]

Hey Two Speed, you plannin' on building some furniture for the shelters with the Sven Saw? I wasn't sure if they made backpacking levels and miter boxes as well.:cool:

Hey Ghosthiker, I hope you can get out real soon.

SD

[Two Speed]

Yep, gonna build at least one four poster bed at each shelter. Tell ya what, you can have the honor of breakin' 'em in so you don't need to bring your sleeping bag or pad.

Yessir, Ol' Survivor Dave can travel light this time!

[Bulldawg]

Looks like I am out for this one as well. Seems I promised the wife I would take her somewhere and I cannot get a kitchen pass for three full days. Two questions though, which day you think you guys are summiting Standing Indian? And then which day you summiting Albert Mtn? I might can sneak away long enough with the family to summit one of those two.

[Two Speed]

Ummm, seeing as you're the Master of the Itinerary shouldn't we be asking you?

Okey doke, I'll quit messing around for a minute. Prolly spend Saturday night pretty close to the top of Standing Indian.

Skids & SD, wanna try to spend Sunday night on Albert?

[bloodmountainman]

Where is Saturday night camp gonna be? I'm not following the same interary, but would like to meet you guys out there. I'm coming NOBO from Dicks Creek to cover a section not yet done, and on around the loop.
Might get a visit from BMM.

[Bulldawg]

I mean, you guys are still more than welcome to follow that itinerary, as if we were going to really follow it anyway! Really, I was thinking of riding up and trying to meet up with you guys to summit one of these two. I am thinking I can drive pretty darned close to the tops of both of them right. I still have not found my NC map, so i don't have a clue honestly. I'll wait to hear your plan. I think I can pull at least this off since I can guilt trip the wife into a short day hike since she denied me the long trip. But whatever you do, if she shows, you can't tell her that.:rolleyes::cool:

I'll wait to hear from you guys.

[Skidsteer]

Looks like I am out for this one as well. Seems I promised the wife I would take her somewhere and I cannot get a kitchen pass for three full days. Two questions though, which day you think you guys are summiting Standing Indian? And then which day you summiting Albert Mtn? I might can sneak away long enough with the family to summit one of those two.


Ummm, seeing as you're the Master of the Itinerary shouldn't we be asking you?

Okey doke, I'll quit messing around for a minute. Prolly spend Saturday night pretty close to the top of Standing Indian.

Skids & SD, wanna try to spend Sunday night on Albert?

Sure.

Saturday will be short but with traveling and all that's fine.

It'll give me time to figure out how to slip a Sven saw into SD's pack when he's not looking.

[bloodmountainman]

Think I just got an answer! Thanks , I'll probably catch you!

[Two Speed]

Hey, no prob, he won't need his sleeping bag or pad so SD will have LOTS of room.

[Bulldawg]

OK, seeing as how I can usually beat my itinerary by an hour a day, I will plan tentatively on meeting you folks at Deep Gap on USFS 71 at 1:45pm Saturday, May 24th, 2008 for the hike up to the summit of Standing Indian. That sound about right to you? Beer sound good at that point?

[Two Speed]

Beer always sounds good. :)

[Bulldawg]

So beer at Deep Gap USFS 71 at 1:45-2 PM, then hike to Standing Indian for sunset? Now I need directions to USFS 71 and road report, Ron Haven, you care to cut in here and help me?

[Skidsteer]

So beer at Deep Gap USFS 71 at 1:45-2 PM, then hike to Standing Indian for sunset? Now I need directions to USFS 71 and road report, Ron Haven, you care to cut in here and help me?

Go to Franklin, get on 64 West and drive about 15-16 miles. Look for the sign to Deep Gap and turn left. It's about 6 miles to the gap. Very easy.

[Bulldawg]

And from all I read online usually a pretty passable road. Sounds like a good time. How long you think to get to Standing Indian with me, Savannah, my wife, and I TS? My wife can hike about as fast as Savannah when I don't require her to carry a pack. I have it figured at about 2.4 miles to the summit from USFS 71. I am thinking if we pull out by 2:30 she can easily make it by 4:30.

[Bulldawg]

Oh yeah, I got it now, where is a good place to take her for supper in Franklin? That will ensure she goes with me, the promise of supper out at a new place.

[Bulldawg]

How long you think to get to Standing Indian with me, Savannah, my wife, and I TS?.

I meant me, my wife, Savannah, and John Jr.?

[Skidsteer]

I meant me, my wife, Savannah, and John Jr.?

It's an easy ascent. Most people off the couch will cover it in less than an hour and a half, I'm thinking.

[Two Speed]

What's the plan, exactly, Bulldawg? Gonna catch the sunset and then head down or spending the night?

While I'm at it, looking forward to meeting you, bloodmountainman.

[Bulldawg]

What's the plan, exactly, Bulldawg? Gonna catch the sunset and then head down or spending the night?

While I'm at it, looking forward to meeting you, bloodmountainman.

I AM THINKING CATCH THE SUNSET AND HEAD DOWN. I CAN'T GET HER TO STAY OUT FOR THE NIGHT I DON'T THINK.

Oppss sorry for the caps, working on some stuff for work and it requires caps!!

[Two Speed]

Judging by the spelling you're working on some Undrinkium, too.

[Bulldawg]

Judging by the spelling you're working on some Undrinkium, too.

All work and no play makes for a dull boy!!:D

[peanuts]

you guys have a good trip!

[Survivor Dave]

Well y'all, I'm buggin' out as well. Not by choice. Doctor says it's not healing due to "getting around doing stuff that I shouldn't be doing" stuff. I didn't like the doctor today.

So...... I won't be trekkin' with y'all. I'll just sit here boo frickin' hooing with my foot up and think about hiking. He strongly discouraged going to Trail Days as well. Looks like Albert Mountain will have to wait until later this Summer.
That's right, I'm in a total pissy frickin' mood. Now leave me alone!:mad::D

Maybe I'll go get another tattoo, I just have to sit and do nothing for that except burn cash and endure pain. Hey, that's like hiking without the footwork!

SD

[Two Speed]

Well, that's gonna make doing a head count pretty easy. :cool:

[orangebug]

I'm taking wife and dotter there this weekend, along with dotter's friend and Mom and Grandma. They will car camp down in the campground. I'm driving them up to Deep Gap Saturday AM to day hike up to the summit, then walking back up to spend the night in my hammock up there. Trying out some new gear before a nice section in June.

[Ghosthiker]

SD, maybe later on when your foot is ready, we can both make up this trip.

[Survivor Dave]

That'll work Ghost. I'm thinking about that trek and/or another round of abuse from NOC through the Smokies possibly with a couple of friends from Ohio/WV. They've been sectioning and will hike from NOC to Newfound Gap this year. I just want to complete the Smokies and maybe go to Hot Springs. Should be nice, nice and HOT that is!

Call or PM if you are interested and can get away. We'll see if there are others interested in a new thread in about a month or so.

I'd invite Two Speed to come along, but I wanted to kinda finish sometime before Thanksgiving! LOL Just kidding TS. :D

SD


SD, maybe later on when your foot is ready, we can both make up this trip.

[Two Speed]

I'd invite Two Speed to come along, but I wanted to kinda finish sometime before Thanksgiving! LOL Just kidding TS. :D

SDSez the guy who bailed out. :cool:

[ed bell]

Ed Bell & wife are considering this trip. Would be nice, I've been there before. My wife missed this section in 2003. We have cool dogs. Are we welcome?

[Two Speed]

Yep, you're welcome.

[Survivor Dave]

I'd respond to that, in a less than nice way, but nobody cares, and I'm tired..........:p:D:D:D


Sez the guy who bailed out. :cool:

[Ghosthiker]

That'll work Ghost. I'm thinking about that trek and/or another round of abuse from NOC through the Smokies possibly with a couple of friends from Ohio/WV. They've been sectioning and will hike from NOC to Newfound Gap this year. I just want to complete the Smokies and maybe go to Hot Springs. Should be nice, nice and HOT that is!

Call or PM if you are interested and can get away. We'll see if there are others interested in a new thread in about a month or so.


SD

Sounds like a plan to me. I rarely have to work weekends. Just happened at the wrong time, his time around.

[Bulldawg]

OK, I planned the whole Saturday thing before I knew something else. The wife and Number One have something planned for Saturday morning in Clayton with my mother. I can pick them up in Clayton at 1:15PM. So I am figuring that should put us at Deep Gap at 2:30PM at the latest. If ya'll get to Deep Gap before then and want to wait on the beer, I am there with bells on. If you don't let me know before next weekend so I don't buy beer for ya'll and have it sitting in the truck. The ball is in your court. I am still planning on coming to Deep Gap and making the hike regardless, unless some other crap comes up between now and then! Let me know.

[Two Speed]

I'd respond to that, in a less than nice way, but nobody cares, and I'm tired..........:p:D:D:DAh, go ahead and take your best shot. Win, loose or draw it'll probably provide amusement for everyone else. ;)
OK, I planned the whole Saturday thing before I knew something else. . . .I hope we're well past Deep Gap by 2:30. Skids?

[peanuts]

if i can hitch a rider with my cuz, ts, can i meet you in marieta?

[Skidsteer]

I hope we're well past Deep Gap by 2:30. Skids?

Yeah, I would think so.

[Bulldawg]

Yeah, I would think so.

Sort of what I was figuring myself. Starting at 10, 3.7 miles, and looking at the terrain, I figure even my slow a$$ would pull through the gap a little after 12:30, one at the latest. Well, we might still try to make Standing Indian Summit ourselves. If we see you there, good, if we don't, oh well, probably your loss.:sun:sun:sun:sun

[peanuts]

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*******check out the new avatar....and proud of it:D***********
********************thanks ghosthiker********************

(you too ts)

[ed bell]

Ed Bell & wife are considering this trip. Would be nice, I've been there before. My wife missed this section in 2003. We have cool dogs. Are we welcome?Have a USDDN event on that Sunday in Simpsonville. Root for Bittle. I'm sure an Easy Company trip will cross our paths again. Have a great time fellas.

[Ghosthiker]

Looking good, Peanuts. Glad you like.

[Two Speed]

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*******check out the new avatar....and proud of it:D***********
********************thanks ghosthiker********************

(you too ts)
You're welcome.

[Bulldawg]

Where did you guys decide to camp?

[orangebug]

Got back yesterday from taking Lady Bug, Yellow Bug, and 3 friends to Standing Indian Campground. The women (2 5yo's and 3 dolts) car camped down in the Campground and had a very big time.

I took them up Standing Indian from Deep Gap parking lot shortly before noon. 2 Kindergarten kids took 2.5 hours to get up there, but much less to come down. It was a gorgeous day in the 60-70's with a bit of a breeze. I went back up after showing 2 of the adults Kimsey Creek trail, which they enjoyed greatly.

I used this to test gear before heading up to Maine in June. The GoLite Quest pack is very comfortable and holds much more stuff that you might imagine. I stayed comfortable and warm under tarp and my Speer Hammock with Peapod and an over quilt. A huge wind started after 2AM, but I had moved my campsite from just off the summit down to near the junction of the blue Blaze and the AT. I had a very nice time with hiker TV (campfire) and sip or two of bourbon.

I met a group of three older men enjoying one of a life time of hiking with each other, testing out one's new knee. I saw a much younger group of three men, two brothers, starting late about a week ago on their thru-hike.

I awoke to the sunrise and was on the Lower Ridge Trail by 7:30AM and enjoyed my shower. Everyone, but the little girls, have a bit of the hiker hobbles this morning.

[Two Speed]

OK, need a head count; at this point it looks like everyone, with the exception of Skids, has bailed out.

If we don't have anyone else interested we're probably going to scratch this one and join a buddy of mine on the Bartram, so if anyone wants to do this loop please speak up now.

[ed bell]

OK, need a head count; at this point it looks like everyone, with the exception of Skids, has bailed out.

Well, technically if we didn't bail in......LOL. Have a great hike. I'm sure I will meet up with y'all again.

[Doughnut]

I am IN, If it is cancelled, please let me know quickly, as my backup will either be to hike it alone or do the NOC to Fontana trip.
thanks,
DoughNut

[Roots]

OK, need a head count; at this point it looks like everyone, with the exception of Skids, has bailed out.

If we don't have anyone else interested we're probably going to scratch this one and join a buddy of mine on the Bartram, so if anyone wants to do this loop please speak up now.

I hate your group has busted up. I know a little about that;).

If you guys plan this trip for another time, Gungho and I would LOVE to go. This is the section I missed on my hike because I wanted to do it with him. We would love to hike with you guys. Gungho had to work this weekend. Let us know if you plan it for the future.

[Two Speed]

I am IN, If it is cancelled, please let me know quickly, as my backup will either be to hike it alone or do the NOC to Fontana trip.
thanks,
DoughNutOK, glad Skids twigged me about posting a notice; I'd clean forgot that you'd said something about coming along. Planning on hiking solo or bringing your brother, and can you give a quick rating; newb, some experience, lottsa experience, trail animal?

Out of sheer curiosity would you want to come along on the Bartram if we decide to can this one? I think the Bartram trip will be a bit more difficult than the Standing Indian loop.

Roots, we'll definitely let you know.

[Bulldawg]

Let me know if you bail too, so I won't be up there Saturday looking for you. If you are on the Bartram from Warwoman up to Rabun Bald, it sure looked like a tough climb coming in from the south the last time I came in from the north.

[Doughnut]

Two Speed,
I am DoughNut!!! Hear me roar!!!

OK, I sectioned Springer to NOC last year, skipped the Standing Indian Loop, went to the campground for a shower (remember the drought and heat last summer?) then picked up at Wallace Gap (??) on to NOC,
I'd planned to go to Fontana but the heat and bugs convinced me to try when it was cooler.
I am planning a thru hike in a year or two, and I am going to Maine in July to hike the 100 mile wilderness and either all of Maine of skip to the Whites, who knows?
Last November (Veteran's Day) I hiked Rock Gap to Betty Creek (Over Albert Mtn) and back to my car at Rock Gap.
I average 10-15 mpd, enjoy myself no matter what.

I am not familiar with Bartram, I plan to drive up Friday after work, I'll stay somewhere (Maybe Ron's place in Franklin) and link up for the hike.

DoughNut

[bloodmountainman]

I'm out of this one also. This has been in the works since Jan., and now that the time is at hand, the bottom fell out. I would like to hook-up and hike with some of the Georgia Whiteblazers one day when the depression is over! Keep me in mind please!
I am planning a "Halloween hike" if anyone is interested. I know that is aways off yet, but you gotta start somewhere!:D

[Ghosthiker]

I am planning a "Halloween hike" if anyone is interested. I know that is aways off yet, but you gotta start somewhere!:D

That should be a good time of the year. Since it's a Halloween hike, do we wear costumes? I could bring some Stella and "be" TwoSpeed. :banana

[Skidsteer]

OK, glad Skids twigged me about posting a notice; I'd clean forgot that you'd said something about coming along. Planning on hiking solo or bringing your brother, and can you give a quick rating; newb, some experience, lottsa experience, trail animal?

Out of sheer curiosity would you want to come along on the Bartram if we decide to can this one? I think the Bartram trip will be a bit more difficult than the Standing Indian loop.

Roots, we'll definitely let you know.


Two Speed,
I am DoughNut!!! Hear me roar!!!

OK, I sectioned Springer to NOC last year, skipped the Standing Indian Loop, went to the campground for a shower (remember the drought and heat last summer?) then picked up at Wallace Gap (??) on to NOC,
I'd planned to go to Fontana but the heat and bugs convinced me to try when it was cooler.
I am planning a thru hike in a year or two, and I am going to Maine in July to hike the 100 mile wilderness and either all of Maine of skip to the Whites, who knows?
Last November (Veteran's Day) I hiked Rock Gap to Betty Creek (Over Albert Mtn) and back to my car at Rock Gap.
I average 10-15 mpd, enjoy myself no matter what.

I am not familiar with Bartram, I plan to drive up Friday after work, I'll stay somewhere (Maybe Ron's place in Franklin) and link up for the hike.

DoughNut

My vote is to stick with the original plan(no shuttle, less driving)of the S.I. Loop.

I'll go along with whatever, though. Looks like a beautiful threes days shaping up!

[Two Speed]

That should be a good time of the year. Since it's a Halloween hike, do we wear costumes? I could bring some Stella and "be" TwoSpeed. :bananaNoboby'd recognize ya then, cuz I don't drink Stella on the trail. :p
My vote is to stick with the original plan(no shuttle, less driving)of the S.I. Loop.

I'll go along with whatever, though. Looks like a beautiful threes days shaping up!Hem, haw, shuffle feet, ummm, . . . hmmm. Well, the weather is shaping up pretty well.

Okey doke, we'll do the Standing Indian loop. DoughNut, we'll meet at the backcountry kiosk at 10:00 Saturday morning.

[Doughnut]

Great, I'll be driving a Silver Jeep wrangler, see you Sat at 10:00, Where is the Kiosk? Is that the one just down (or up) from the general Store on the main road coming in?
Te only time I've been to SI Campground, I hiked NOBO on Kimsey, got a shower and left the next morning early on my way North.

[peanuts]

doc said i can give it a go, but i will not go on this trip. enjoy!!

[Two Speed]

. . . I hiked NOBO on Kimsey, got a shower and left the next morning early on my way North.You can get a shower at Standing Indian?

[Doughnut]

At the campground, yes.

[Doughnut]

I got reservations at Haven's Inn in Franklin for Friday night. See you saturday at 10.

[Bulldawg]

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/3/5/4/dsc07025.jpg

Two Speed on the Indian doing his best impression of somebody.

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/3/5/4/dsc07034.jpg


View on Standing Indian from the "Opera Box". Best views in the Southeast maybe?:sun

[Ghosthiker]

Well, it looks like they are having a good time and good weather. Still hate that I missed this trip.

[Survivor Dave]

Looks like Two Speed is having a good time. Where's Skids and Doughnut? Hope yoooz guys are having a great hike. It looks awesome out there. Wish I coulda gone.

SD

[Bulldawg]

Looks like Two Speed is having a good time. Where's Skids and Doughnut? Hope yoooz guys are having a great hike. It looks awesome out there. Wish I coulda gone.

SD

I met them yesterday at Deep Gap. Couldn't have timed it much better. I pulled into Deep Gap about the time they came up the Kimsey Creek Trail. Skids is there, but Two and Skids are the only two whiteblazers on the hike. I wish I could have made the entire hike myself. The views from the Indian were absolutely awesome. Like I said, quite possibly the best views in the Southeast. My family and I hiked up to the summit and cooked supper and headed back down. We were going to do sunset on the summit and twilight hike back to the truck. But my wife hurt her foot yesterday (not on the trail) and toughed out the 5 mile in and out to the summit. Took her for an X-Ray last night and they think it is just a really bad bruise. She has broke the same foot about 8 years ago, so we wanted to be certain right away.

Anyway, best views in the Southeast maybe and the round trip from Deep Gap up to the Indian summit is probably the best hike I have been on to introduce new hikers. The grade is never tough and the couple of moderate to difficult sections never last more than a few hundred yards. My mother in law and her best friend want to hike a few times with me (yeah believe that or not) and I think when her friend comes down from DC in a few weeks I am taking them on the Indian.

Skids and TS plan on about 12 or 13 miles today, which takes them over Albert today. I look forward to hearing a report on the rest of the hike.

[Doughnut]

I was there at 10 and all alone so I took off, Went Kimsey creek and somehow got off the trail ended up on FS71 and followed it to Deep gap, then to Carter Gap for the Night.
this mornign I climbed Albert and made glassmine gap before lunch so I followed Long Branch and headed out.
I met 5 thru Hikers (Yikes) no trail names, not on WB not on TJ.

I assume I'd been stood up so I used the opportunity to train up for Maine (if it ever opens!)

DoughNut

Pics will be posted later.

[Two Speed]

. . . But my wife hurt her foot yesterday (not on the trail) and toughed out the 5 mile in and out to the summit. Took her for an X-Ray last night and they think it is just a really bad bruise. She has broke the same foot about 8 years ago, so we wanted to be certain right away. . . Good deal. Skids and I were worried. Lisa didn't look happy when ya'll headed out.


I was there at 10 and all alone so I took off, Hmm, we hung around until 11:00.
Went Kimsey creek and somehow got off the trail ended up on FS71 and followed it to Deep gapAlmost caught ya there during our "unscheduled exploration" of various trail in the area.
then to Carter Gap for the Night.
this mornign I climbed Albert and made glassmine gap before lunch so I followed Long Branch and headed out.You were behind Skids and myself at that point. We camped just beyond Albert, and headed out pretty early, got down to Standing Indian by 10:00 or so.

[Doughnut]

Not to be argumentative but I finished YESTERDAY (Sunday) I think I was ahead of you. Did you notice the Silver Jeep Wrangler parked to the far left by the garbage cans? That is my Jeep, I was there at 8:30 and waited till 10:15. Maybe I was in the wrong place?
Anyway, I had a great time, I wanted to try a few long days and try out stuff for my trip North. everything worked out well, Did you meet an older gentleman in a 101st Airborne Hat on top of standing Indian? We hiked up from Deep gap together, I forget his name.
Met a bunch of thru hikers, no trail names, not on WB and No trail journals, just plain ol' hikers,
DoughNut

[Two Speed]

OK, you're a trail animal, and no, I didn't notice a silver Wrangler.

Skids, did you notice one?

[Bulldawg]

Good deal. Skids and I were worried. Lisa didn't look happy when ya'll headed out.


She wasn't happy, at all. I think the hour or so spent laying in the hammock up there let her foot get "stove up" some as I call it. She felt better and better as we came down the mountain. I had to force Goody's powders down her throat on the way down, but it ended up not being too awful. Good thing it is such an easy hike. I read several reviews that rated it at moderate to strenuous, I could find absolutely nothing strenuous about it. Maybe a couple of hundred yard or so sections of moderate, but nothing that anyone in half way decent shape couldn't handle.

Sure wish I could have went over Albert. Number One is begging me to take her and camp on top of the Indian. I may make the trip in five or six weeks.

Weekend after next I think I will do the section I planned on Number One and I plan on doing in Georgia. I can't make my mind up between Hogpen to Unicoi or FS42 Springer to Woody Gap. Both are pretty easy hikes I KNOW she can make easily. I am seriously considering doing the Unicoi to Hogpen southbound trek. That way we get the tough one out of the way first thing Saturday morning and can pace the rest of the trip based off that.

Then the next weekend is my birthday, no gifts please (if you need the link to my REI wish list, let me know) and father's day and we are planning a cookout at that fabulous little lookout .1 south of Tray Gap. Work the next weekend and then maybe Ellicott rock with Speed Racer the next weekend. Anyone a taker on either of the overnight hikes are welcome. But beware that both are with children, Number One is a 7 YO girl who is pretty calm when alone. Speed Racer is a rambunctious 6 year old boy. Then maybe an overnight on the Indian a few weeks later.

Looks like my entire summer is almost planned out. Now if I could only get the wife to go on an overnight!!!:D:D:D

[Doughnut]

OK, you're a trail animal, and no, I didn't notice a silver Wrangler.

Skids, did you notice one?

maybe I was at the wrong place? I had a great hike, just decided to hike and enjoy myself, (which I did).
I had a weekend of mis-understandings, Ron thought I was staying at the Sapphire Inn, I was at Budget Inn Friday night.

Next time we'll make it work,

DoughNut

[jbwood5]

A group of 4 of us (2men and 2 women) did the Standing Indian Loop on Sunday. Some of you may have noticed those crazy run/walkers out there slacking the trail in running shoes, running shorts, and light weight packs. The weather for the weekend was awesome. It just doesn't get any better. We stayed at Standing Indian Campground and were very lucky to get a spot. After checking all 70+ sites for an opening and finding none, we stopped by the store on the way out and they told us that 1 spot just became available because someone became sick and had to leave. Never again will I count on getting in at Standing Indian on Memorial Day weekend.

Anyhow, we hit the Kimsey Creek Trail at 8:00 AM on Sunday and it took the 2 gals and myself 8-1/2 hours to get back to our campsite, including the road section from Rock Gap. I think the distance was more like 26-27 miles, but it might have been a tad shorter. We did go up to the top of Standing Indian Mountain but the views were mostly blocked by clouds and fog. Our lead runner finished 1-1/2 hours ahead of us, but he is in tremendous shape (and about 12 years younger than me). We had a few gnat problems on the section from Albert Mountain to Rock Gap late in the afternoon.

After a great cookout Sunday night, the group ddecided on Monday Memorial Day, we would go up the Long Branch Trail to Glassmine Gap and then up to the tower. We got there just as the workers were getting ready to block off the area around the firetower because they are replacing the roof. They let us climb to the top and allowed us 2 minutes on the platform before asking us to leave so they could work. The views were awesome. Then it was back down to the campground and a quick dip in the cold stream before the long drive back to FL.