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Wilderness First Aid class this Dec at REI's Buford store,(a burb of Atlanta.) I realize it's too far for most, but wanted to let everyone in the Atl and surrounding area know in case you're interested. Also for those outside the Atl are, check with your local outfitters, Red Cross and EMS for possible classes.
I do most of my hiking solo, scraps and bruises are the norm, but I never know when a more serious injury may occur or when I may find another hiker in need of help. I have signed up for the class.
If you are interested or have questions, please contact Daniel Jesse at the number or email address listed below.
REI
Buford Clinics and Events
Wilderness First Aid 2-day course
12/13/2008 9:00 AM
This is a wilderness first aid course certified by the US Ski Patrol. In this two-day course, professional safety expert David Castaldini will show you how to assess a variety of injuries, treat the victim and how to use your simple first aid kit to keep you safe and possibly save a life. You?ll also receive a 350-page and course completion card good for three years.
Class is limited to 25 participants (and a minimum of 10 is required), so register now!
Course runs 9am-5pm Saturday Dec. 13 through Sunday Dec. 14
Location:Gwinnett Environmental & Heritage Center on Saturday and REI Buford on Sunday
Contact- Daniel Jessee, djessee@rei.com, 770.831.0676
Cost:$175
Registration Required? Yes. Contact Daniel Jessee, djessee@rei.com, or 770.831.0676 to for more information or to RSVP.
Does that cost include the flight there? :D
Bulldawg
11-06-2008, 15:18
Does that cost include the flight there? :D
You could be in Buford in 2 hours Roots......Driving!
JaxHiker
11-06-2008, 15:20
Man, I've been wanting to take one of these courses for a while. I'll have to see if I can drive up. Thanks for the heads up!
Man, I've been wanting to take one of these courses for a while. I'll have to see if I can drive up. Thanks for the heads up!
JaxHiker- I talked to Daniel from REI today, the class is booking up so don't wait too long.
Bulldawg
11-06-2008, 15:57
Are you close to Buford Jermm?
Are you close to Buford Jermm?
kinda, sorta
You could be in Buford in 2 hours Roots......Driving!
I know. I was jk! You GA peeps have fun. I'll stick to my NC wilderness training. :D
I know. I was jk! You GA peeps have fun. I'll stick to my NC wilderness training. :D
:-? NC wilderness training= standing over the injured while poking their gaping wound with a stick :eek:
JaxHiker
11-06-2008, 17:11
JaxHiker- I talked to Daniel from REI today, the class is booking up so don't wait too long.
Roger. I'm off the 12th so maybe I can bring the family up for a mini vacation. I'll talk to the spousal unit. Thanks.
If someone takes this course and can remember, I would enjoy an answer on e-treatment of a severed artery, with and with out skin break. The best answer I have gotten is evacuation. Yeah, and?
Finger in the hole is a valid answer, but I figure there must be some rules of thumb.
Two Speed
11-06-2008, 17:49
Use a thumb for the larger arteries?
Jim Adams
11-06-2008, 17:50
If someone takes this course and can remember, I would enjoy an answer on e-treatment of a severed artery, with and with out skin break. The best answer I have gotten is evacuation. Yeah, and?
Finger in the hole is a valid answer, but I figure there must be some rules of thumb.
...ONLY IF THE THUMB FITS!!!!!!
Actually, elevate, direct pressure and a pressure point is your best hope but this should all be done during evacuation as a severed artery is not going to stop very easily if you can stop it at all. Even slowing it to a slow drip is a major accomplishment.
Any first aid and / or rescue training will give major confidence to your wilderness skills. Better than any high tech gear.
geek
Homer&Marje
11-06-2008, 17:54
Think I have enough experience in wilderness first aid. Thanks again Deborah from Sharon for driving a stranger running out of the woods to the hospital as well.
Don't look if you don't like blood.
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Use a thumb for the larger arteries?
...ONLY IF THE THUMB FITS!!!!!!
Actually, elevate, direct pressure and a pressure point is your best hope but this should all be done during evacuation as a severed artery is not going to stop very easily if you can stop it at all. Even slowing it to a slow drip is a major accomplishment.
Any first aid and / or rescue training will give major confidence to your wilderness skills. Better than any high tech gear.
geek
This is about what I have heard before. As you say "if."
Any other tricks-Would love to hear them.
Jim Adams
11-06-2008, 18:08
This is about what I have heard before. As you say "if."
Any other tricks-Would love to hear them.
Anything that works at that point! Infection and contamination of the wound is always secondary to bleeding to death. I once used a "roach clip" with feathers hanging from a rearview mirror at a severe MVA to stop a severed artery prior to the ambulance getting there.:-?
geek
If someone takes this course and can remember, I would enjoy an answer on e-treatment of a severed artery, with and with out skin break. The best answer I have gotten is evacuation. Yeah, and?
Finger in the hole is a valid answer, but I figure there must be some rules of thumb.
A severed artery without skin breaking. If this does happen it will likely be associated with multiple traumatic injuries (broken ribs, torn aorta, sternal fracture, and other concominant injuries; the patient will die)
For open skin agree with direct pressure and pressure point..... and prayer. You can bleed out very quickly.
Chance09
12-16-2008, 11:33
For open skin agree with direct pressure and pressure point..... and prayer. You can bleed out very quickly.
Couldn't you use a tourniquet to cut off blood flow? WFA is only a 2 day class lol. They can't cover everything.
Buy anyways I took this class a month ago at WVU as well as a "what to do when help is delayed" and i feel much more prepared for any accident I will encounter in the woods. I highly recommend it to anyone who can take it.
No longer than the weekend after the class I was driving home for thanksgiving and a SUV rolls in front of me into a ditch cause the roads were horrible. We hopped out and ran over to make sure the guy was ok. I was ready to start treating him for shock but he was fine.