View Full Version : New 4 season Tarptent Released today.
No Belay
11-20-2008, 21:49
Henry released his new 4 season tarptent today. At 44 oz it looks like the bar has been lowered. I ordered one and hope it's waiting on me when I get home from CA. Check it out on the site www.tarptent.com (http://www.tarptent.com) under the "What's new" category. I'll give a review after i've spent a few nights in it.
TaTonka
kayak karl
11-20-2008, 22:36
Henry released his new 4 season tarptent today. At 44 oz it looks like the bar has been lowered. I ordered one and hope it's waiting on me when I get home from CA. Check it out on the site www.tarptents.com (http://www.tarptents.com) under the "What's new" category. I'll give a review after i've spent a few nights in it.
TaTonka
BAD LINK :) want to know:banana
FamilyGuy
11-20-2008, 22:50
Awesome - look forward to a full review!
I use my poncho/tarp, gortex bivy, blue foam pad 4 season.
10oz with pegs cord, +32oz = 42 oz + 10oz for 72"x28"x3/8" blue foam pad.
$30+$40 surplus+ $10 = $80. I leave the bivy home in summer.
BAD LINK :) want to know:banana
Try www.tarptent.com (http://www.tarptent.com)
No Belay
11-21-2008, 00:02
I use my poncho/tarp, gortex bivy, blue foam pad 4 season.
10oz with pegs cord, +32oz = 42 oz + 10oz for 72"x28"x3/8" blue foam pad.
$30+$40 surplus+ $10 = $80. I leave the bivy home in summer.
Glad that works for you. When I get snowed in without snowshoes I would go bonkers in a setup like that. I used to do the minimalist routine and found once I got past my testosterone phase, I enjoyed my trips a lot more being dry and having some elbow room. If I lived where you did and didn't have to worry about it raining one hour, sleeting and snowing the next, and then raining again like it does here, I would consider a bivy. Here in the warmer areas they suck.
FamilyGuy
11-21-2008, 01:15
I use my poncho/tarp, gortex bivy, blue foam pad 4 season.
10oz with pegs cord, +32oz = 42 oz + 10oz for 72"x28"x3/8" blue foam pad.
$30+$40 surplus+ $10 = $80. I leave the bivy home in summer.
That set up must be excellent with a foot of snow falling. Do you leave flag where you end up buried so someone will find you?:D
taildragger
11-21-2008, 01:38
I'm interested in how this works, maybe they'll get into competition with Warmlites tents.
I'd go with a Hilleberg for true 4 season durability and condensate control
This reminds me that for the first few years I was selling cameras I still had people come in wanting to buy German cameras because "the Japanese stuff is crap"
Of course now that most are made in China (including DSLRs) some want Japanese cameras only....
There is always a bit of a problem when people mention brands. If you tell me that you have a Ford, I have no idea of what you have.
If by Hilleberg you have the Soulo/Allak in mind , you are provably right, however they are heavier. Comparing the freestanding version of the Scarp 1 with the Soulo you have a 40% increase in weight. If you think of the Saivo, that is a mighty shelter indeed, but is over 9 lbs, hardly fair to compare it with a 3 lbs shelter.
At the other end , I would not take a Rajd where I would be comfortable taking the Scarp (if it proves to perform as I think it will....)
The obvious comparison is the Akto, curiously the main complaint with this one is the lack of condensation management.
So I think that I will wait for some user reports before I decide how good or bad it is.
By the way, I am not an expert but have used/tested many tents, including the Akto.
Franco
FamilyGuy
11-21-2008, 16:32
Uh, yea - Hilleberg are not known for their ventilation nor condensation management. Awesome tents to be sure but isn't it nice to have choice!
Have been looking around for a real 4 season tent for a while. Don't necessarily need an expedition model, so this may be just right. Will wait a while and see if any reports come in Pro or Con. Looks real promising.
No Belay
11-21-2008, 16:52
I'd go with a Hilleberg for true 4 season durability and condensate control
Egads, What's the weight on your Hille? I've only used 2 different models and they both were no different than any other well designed 4 season as far as condensate management. They all work as well as their occupants comprehension of ventilation vs temp retention. I doubt I'll use the Scarp on bagging any summits but for getting down a trail or doing a little ski/pulking it looks like the berries.. and only half the weight of your non-American made shelter
I bet I know where Henry got his inspiration: http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1262791629059664855XQxwfC
I like the design he has in that it has two vestibules which should allow for some flow through ventilation. The Akto gets condensation on the snow even with the door wide open (temperature right around freezing). In colder weather it does better, but there's still a coating of frost on the inside of the rainfly. The two end vents (absent in the Shires version) don't work at all, as far as I can tell, so I'm interested in seeing how Henry's new tent handles condensation with two doors.
Toolshed
11-23-2008, 23:20
Kinda looks like that REI Roadster from a couple of years back.
I like the idea of a lighter weight, but If I am in true winter conditions - near or subzero and heavy snows/winds (perhaps the Whites or Daks), I'd want a heavier structure with more poles around me. I usually carry my Kelty Windfoils (2P=8lbs, 3P=9lbs) or my Eureka Alpenlite (2P=6lbs)
I don't know if the Akto was the first of the single hoop tents but that design certainly has a lot of followers , for example the Exped Vela,Terra Nova Laser/ Photon, Fjallraven Ringstind, Mountain Hardware Stiletto, Robens Small Dreamer,Saunders Spacepaker. But of course since TNF came out with the geodesic design in the 70's every geodesic tent looks pretty much the same.
There are two vents at the apex of the Scarp 1.
Franco
Yeah, you can add the Roadster and the Aarn Pacer to my look alike list....
Franco
So, any field reports yet?
That looks sweet, though I wish it was a 2-3 person.