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partinj
12-19-2008, 13:43
Hi i am starting on feb 3 2009 if you wear micro fleece pant under your nylon convertible pant do you get nylon pant a size larger or will the your reg .size pants
fit over the micro fleece pant with out being to tight. The reason for the micro fleece
is the top part of leg get colder than the bottom. i have a pair of duofold protherm top and bottom also do any of you take two piar of long underwear one to sleep in
and one to hike in. Thak
:-?

Alligator
12-19-2008, 13:51
Hi i am starting on feb 3 2009 if you wear micro fleece pant under your nylon convertible pant do you get nylon pant a size larger or will the your reg .size pants
fit over the micro fleece pant with out being to tight. The reason for the micro fleece
is the top part of leg get colder than the bottom. i have a pair of duofold protherm top and bottom also do any of you take two piar of long underwear one to sleep in
and one to hike in. Thak
:-?In the winter, if I expect to be hiking in long underwear, I consider that pair expendable and plan other warm clothes for camp. But as a thruhiker, you might ride the safety margin a little more, especially if you practice good sweat/moisture management.

A tip is that a nice pair of silk longjohns is a good second set for camp. Light and warm as a baselayer. Then I would use generic blue polypros for hiking. It would need to be real cold though. I hike very warm though, it sounds like you have some cold issues with your legs.

BookBurner
12-20-2008, 11:03
I definately would carry one set of thermals for use in camp. As for hiking in fleece pants, that would get awfully hot for me, especially when motoring up and down the constant mountains of north Ga/NC. I suspect you won't use them more days than you will.

I suggest that you leave the fleece pants at home. On those rare days when shorts and rain pants aren't enough to keep your legs warm, throw on your camp thermal bottoms. People will shout that you should save your dry camp clothes strictly for use in camp, but that bit of advice has its practical limitations. If you get your camp clothes a little wet from hiking every once in a while, your body heat will dry them out quickly once you stop moving. They'll be a bit stinkier than they would have been, but hey, your hiking. You'll survive (just make sure you always keep a dry sleeping bag!) Fleece pants just seem like an expensive (not to mention heavy and bulky) insurance policy for the likely benefit they'll provide.

Tinker
12-20-2008, 12:28
I agree with Book Burner in principal, as far as limiting your load, and it is solid advice for the early spring, but you'll be leaving in the winter.
In winter I take one pair of what you would call "silk weight" poly long johns which I wear, wet or dry, when I need extra warmth for hiking. I have a second set of midweight long johns which I keep with my sleeping bag for nighttime use and early morning warm-ups around camp. I'm a section hiker so there may be some difference of opinion between me ane thruhikers. My midweights weigh 14 oz. for the pair. My silk weights, 9.

Christopher Robin
12-20-2008, 13:05
I find myself wearing poly's long johns w/ nyln convertabl pants to start off & when it gets warm unzip the legs & use the shorts part. That way if I get cooler later afternoon I can zip the legs back on.

karoberts
12-20-2008, 13:10
Why not skip the nylon pants? Hike in the fleece and bring something else for "around camp".

Blissful
12-20-2008, 13:52
If you need to wear something under your convertibles for warmth, I would go with silk. Weighs nothing, can wear your size, not bulky. Sierra Trading Post has good deals and so does Campmor.

Tinker
12-20-2008, 18:43
Blissful:
Do you need special detergent for silk? I tried silk sock liners back in the '80s and when I washed them they turned into something resembling cardboard. Never could use them again. I wasn't aware that silk was warm, either, but I've never used it for that purpose. It's a nice material for summer dress shirts and pajamas, that I know, but warm?

Tinker
12-20-2008, 18:48
Why not skip the nylon pants? Hike in the fleece and bring something else for "around camp".

Fleece is a snow magnet. You need a shell over it.
Maybe skip the fleece and use some light poly or wool under the shell pants.

J5man
12-25-2008, 21:58
For any cold weather backpacking questions, go to Tipi Walter, he is an expert in this area!

Hoop
12-25-2008, 22:16
"For any cold weather backpacking questions, go to Tipi Walter, he is an expert in this area!"

JAK also.

Blissful
12-25-2008, 23:38
Blissful:
Do you need special detergent for silk? I tried silk sock liners back in the '80s and when I washed them they turned into something resembling cardboard. Never could use them again. I wasn't aware that silk was warm, either, but I've never used it for that purpose. It's a nice material for summer dress shirts and pajamas, that I know, but warm?


Silk is a good insulating layer in a sleeping bag and under clothing. I have washed mine without trouble. I do not use farbic softener on them or on any hiking gear. I use the Terramar silk underwear.

buckwheat
12-26-2008, 16:56
If you need to wear something under your convertibles for warmth, I would go with silk. Weighs nothing, can wear your size, not bulky. Sierra Trading Post has good deals and so does Campmor.

Hey ladies ... what about panty hose for the men? Doesn't panty hose offer superior warmth with very little weight?