Are "support team" slackpackers legitimate thru-hikers?

[domnokmis]

My wife and I share a computer and have separate logins, and we can both log in at the same time on the same computer. You'll have to excuse my husband. He thinks he can reason with trolls, and trust me, he is pretty unreasonable himself.

[Frosty]

You'll have to excuse my husband. He thinks he can reason with trolls, and trust me, he is pretty unreasonable himself.Hey! I resemble that remark!

[SGT Rock]

southern education is a contradiction of terms.

Like New York manners?

[longshank]

My wife and I share a computer and have separate logins, and we can both log in at the same time on the same computer.
I'm afraid neither of us are so neurotically sinister.

[longshank]

Like New York manners?
something like that...You've got the hospitality thing cornered, we've got the smarts.

[longshank]

Yankees:10 Rebs:0

[KirkMcquest]

something like that...You've got the hospitality thing cornered, we've got the smarts.

If the people on this website are any indication, southern hospitality is a misnomer.

[KirkMcquest]

Yankees:10 Rebs:0

General longshank we've got the rebs on the run, what are your orders?

[Footslogger]

...what does any of this have to do with support team slackpackers ??

'Slogger

[SGT Rock]

Don't go south, that would be my bet anyway. And belive it or not, most of the folks you have been arguing with are fellow yankees.

[longshank]

Lieutenant McQuest, you and your platoon are to pursue Sgt. Rock and his troops all the way back to Dixie!

[KirkMcquest]

Don't go south, that would be my bet anyway. And belive it or not, most of the folks you have been arguing with are fellow yankees.

I know a reb in yanks clothing when I hear one

[SGT Rock]

Actually shows how much you know, this area of Dixie (east Tennessee and Western N.C.) was heavily unionist. And I am in the Yankee Cavalry - 2d ACR. But, BTW, the confederate cavalry whipped them at the battle of Brandwine Station.

[longshank]

Actually shows how much you know, this area of Dixie (east Tennessee and Western N.C.) was heavily unionist. And I am in the Yankee Cavalry - 2d ACR. But, BTW, the confederate cavalry whipped them at the battle of Brandwine Station.
Sounds like reb double talk to me...

[SGT Rock]

Naw, just history. And BTW, I am southern all the way, it wasn't me I was refering to. Maybe you ought to meet some of the guys like LWolf, Troll, Mowgli, and others - sounds like the movie Goodfellas when they get together.

[KirkMcquest]

Actually shows how much you know, this area of Dixie (east Tennessee and Western N.C.) was heavily unionist. And I am in the Yankee Cavalry - 2d ACR. But, BTW, the confederate cavalry whipped them at the battle of Brandwine Station.

What do you mean you're in a cavalry? Didn't you hear? the war is over

[longshank]

Naw, just history. And BTW, I am southern all the way, it wasn't me I was refering to. Maybe you ought to meet some of the guys like LWolf, Troll, Mowgli, and others - sounds like the movie Goodfellas when they get together.
Gee golly! Sounds great! When you guys wanna hang out?

[longshank]

By the looks of the poll result, I'd say the NO's have it! By a majority vote, slackpackers with support teams are NOT considered true thru-hikers.

[SGT Rock]

What do you mean you're in a cavalry? Didn't you hear? the war is over
No, SGT Rock isn't JUST a trail name for me.

SGT = Sergeant. I have 20+ years active duty and my Regiment is the 2d Cavalry - the longest continuous active service unit in the Army - we were established in 1836 and there has always been a 2d Cavalry since then. My regiment has participated in every war since then except Vietnam. I ain't just talking smack to sound funny y'all

[KirkMcquest]

No, SGT Rock isn't JUST a trail name for me.

SGT = Sergeant. I have 20+ years active duty and my Regiment is the 2d Cavalry - the longest continuous active service unit in the Army - we were established in 1836 and there has always been a 2d Cavalry since then. My regiment has participated in every war since then except Vietnam. I ain't just talking smack to sound funny y'all

Impressive, but that does not excuse you're slackpacking.

[longshank]

Let's all take a moment and bow our heads in gratitude for all the heroes, like sgt Rock and his grand cavalry, who strive day by day to keep these good people of america safe from rising oil prices and a lack of inexpensive overseas underage labor forces...

[longshank]

Impressive, but that does not excuse you're slackpacking.
And we'd figured out that sgt. stands for sergeant, but thanks anyway...

[KirkMcquest]

Let's all take a moment and bow our heads in gratitude for all the heroes, like sgt Rock and his grand cavalry, who strive day by day to keep these good people of america safe from rising oil prices and a lack of inexpensive overseas underage labor forces...

To keep slackpackers free to get rides without the fear of having to chip in for gas

[KirkMcquest]

I think we killed him

[longshank]

To keep slackpackers free to get rides without the fear of having to chip in for gas
There's a little bit of him in all of us...

[longshank]

There's a little bit of him in all of us...
Just one in along series of victories...

[ozwingchun]

longshank and kirkmcquests real names are avery and elijah
they enjoy long walks on the beach,full moons,and bonbons.
they particularly enjoy stuffed pink rabbits and listening to air supplies "all out of love" over and over
but i do agree with them slackpackers are not legitimate thru-hikers
ozwingchun

[KirkMcquest]

Just one in along series of victories...

Once again

[KirkMcquest]

This man is an imposter

[longshank]

ozwingchun...sounds like a commie name to me...

[longshank]

chinese or something

[KirkMcquest]

He has apparantly fled for the safety of a commy outpost. He's probably bald anyway. The field is ours general longshanks!

[SGT Rock]

Geez you guys have no clue do you.

[longshank]

Geez you guys have no clue do you.
Could you phrase that in the form of a question, sir?

[SGT Rock]

How about this:

Are you guys actually going to contribute to the site or troll?

[Lone Wolf]

These New Yawk boys are homersexual lovers fo sure! Cupcakes.:cool:

[KirkMcquest]

These New Yawk boys are homersexual lovers fo sure! Cupcakes.:cool:

Exellent contribution Wolf! No trolling here

[KirkMcquest]

How about this:

Are you guys actually going to contribute to the site or troll?

I am going to contribute by stating again that slackpackers are not true thru-hikers. My opinion is clearly echoed by the poll. I wouldn't stop people from hiking however they want, but I would just call it something else. Distinctions can be made. Amazingly, when I resorted to the same tactics as you and your little merry band of rejects, I became a troll. Very lame

[lbbrown]

These New Yawk boys are homersexual lovers fo sure! Cupcakes.:cool:
Hey L.Wolf- Maybe those New Yawk boyz need to be shown some of that Southern Hospitality! What was the name of that movie? lol:banana

Wasn't it about some blue blazin' slackpackers? Cars, canoes and bows and arrows and not to mention some fallen timber!

[SGT Rock]

I am going to contribute by stating again that slackpackers are not true thru-hikers. My opinion is clearly echoed by the poll. I wouldn't stop people from hiking however they want, but I would just call it something else. Distinctions can be made. Amazingly, when I resorted to the same tactics as you and your little merry band of rejects, I became a troll. Very lame
No I mean really contribute other than trying to see how far you can push this particular issue. Really, no bull**** - but this is fairly petty and I would rather you stop acting like a smartass on this thread and actually do some more contributing on the site, if all you have to offer is comments on this one thread, you may as well leave and go to another forum.

Now, see if you can reply directly about that.

[saimyoji]

I am going to contribute by stating again that slackpackers are not true thru-hikers. My opinion is clearly echoed by the poll. I wouldn't stop people from hiking however they want, but I would just call it something else. Distinctions can be made. Amazingly, when I resorted to the same tactics as you and your little merry band of rejects, I became a troll. Very lame
From: http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

What is a Troll? Top (http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm#TOC) An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words. END QUOTE.


Keeping in mind the intent of this site, and the fact that you and your pal have made it clear you have nothing positive to contribute, the description "Troll" fits you. You can change that by actually making a positive contribution, not just ***** stirring.

Check out some of Lobster's posts. Pure ***** stirrer, but we love him just the same. :D

And furthermore...I happen to agree with your opinion, though I wouldn't so calously sling ***** at people for doing what they like to do.

[Skidsteer]

From: http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

What is a Troll? For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility


Sounds like Terminators. :D

[NotYet]

I am going to contribute by stating again that slackpackers are not true thru-hikers. My opinion is clearly echoed by the poll. I wouldn't stop people from hiking however they want, but I would just call it something else. Distinctions can be made.


If you really think that it's that important to make a clear distinction, feel free to change your own terminology. For those who you believe are hiking the AT in what you're calling the "true" way, you could start using the term thru-backpackers instead of thru-hikers. People that hike are people that walk.

As for the poll, it doesn't look to me like an actual yes or no choice...but for what it's worth, I see fewer numbers in the "No" section, than in the other three. I think the most telling thing about the poll is that of the thousands of views this thread has received, most people didn't vote...It's been my experience that most long-distance hikers are pretty flexible people. Most seem to not worry too much about these types of things.

[justusryans]

From: http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

What is a Troll? Top (http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm#TOC) An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words. END QUOTE.


Keeping in mind the intent of this site, and the fact that you and your pal have made it clear you have nothing positive to contribute, the description "Troll" fits you. You can change that by actually making a positive contribution, not just ***** stirring.

Check out some of Lobster's posts. Pure ***** stirrer, but we love him just the same. :D

And furthermore...I happen to agree with your opinion, though I wouldn't so calously sling ***** at people for doing what they like to do.


Excellent Post!!!:clap

[KirkMcquest]

As for the poll, it doesn't look to me like an actual yes or no choice...but for what it's worth, I see fewer numbers in the "No" section, than in the other three. I think the most telling thing about the poll is that of the thousands of views this thread has received, most people didn't vote...It's been my experience that most long-distance hikers are pretty flexible people. Most seem to not worry too much about these types of things.

The 'no's' are clearly in the majority, this is not a debate. As for most thru-hikers not worrying about these things, that is the topic for this thread. If your not worried, why read it?

[MacGyver2005]

Why is this thread still here? It started with a lop-sided poll that poked at anyone who slack-packed, almost pulled into a constructive conversation, and now has nose-dived with posts that are not only derogatory, but uterly asinine and completely pointless! Just as there is apparently nothing to be gained from Kirk and Longshank, there is no way that anything else can be gained from this thread; let it die, or better yet kill it before it brings the quality of this site down anymore than it already has.

Regards,
-MacGyver
GA-->ME

[MOWGLI]

The 'no's' are clearly in the majority, this is not a debate. As for most thru-hikers not worrying about these things, that is the topic for this thread. If your not worried, why read it?

Here's why this thread and the opinion you express above mean nothing. And for the record, I'm what you'd call a "traditional" backpacker, and almost always carry more than 30 pounds, and often more than 40.

Hiking is not a competitive activity. It is an individual recreational activity. The ATC has no opinion on this matter - and they are the only organization that recognizes completion of the AT. Furthermore, IMO only those folks that are insecure to the point that they allow others to label their individual achievements, need to worry about such silliness.

Why don't you walk the trail Kirk - if you can - then come back here and share your opinion(s) after you have some experience on the AT. Cause you see, this kind of nonsense takes on a life of its own on the internet. It means next to nothing out on the trail. But then again, you'd already know that if you'd spent any time on the trail.

[Sly]

Why don't you walk the trail Kirk - if you can -

That would be a good question for another poll. With his pre-hike attitude, I'd say "no".

[Lone Wolf]

That would be a good question for another poll. With his pre-hike attitude, I'd say "no".
Let's start a gambling thread. Take bets on Kirky and Longy finishing a thru-hike, or even starting one.

[KirkMcquest]

Here's why this thread and the opinion you express above mean nothing. And for the record, I'm what you'd call a "traditional" backpacker, and almost always carry more than 30 pounds, and often more than 40.

Hiking is not a competitive activity. It is an individual recreational activity. The ATC has no opinion on this matter - and they are the only organization that recognizes completion of the AT.

Listen carefully, here's why what you've said makes no sense; The topic of this thread is whether or not slack packers with support teams are real thru-hikers. I didn't create this thread. I merely expressed my opinion. Is there only one acceptable response?

[KirkMcquest]

Let's start a gambling thread. Take bets on Kirky and Longy finishing a thru-hike, or even starting one.

This is obviously an extension of your insecure feelings at not having hiked the trail properly. Why don't you go back and try to do it and I'll take bets on whether or not you cheat.

[kyhipo]

take a hike :bse ky

[QHShowoman]

This is obviously an extension of your insecure feelings at not having hiked the trail properly.

I didn't realize there was a "proper" way to hike the trail. Shows how little I know ...

***

I say, "hike your own hike." If thru-hiking is just about finishing the trail with the least amount of physical stress possible for you, then by all means, slackpack. If its about carrying your gear, touching every white blaze, never blue-blazing, etc., then so be it.

No one can take your thru-hiking experience away from you, regardless of how you accomplished it. I like a good debate, but sometimes, you just have to agree to disagree and move on.

[Lone Wolf]

This is obviously an extension of your insecure feelings at not having hiked the trail properly. Why don't you go back and try to do it and I'll take bets on whether or not you cheat.
I've hiked more "proper" miles by accident than you'll ever hike on purpose. Cheat? Didn't know it was a test.

[Sly]

How do you hike the trail properly or cheat for that matter? Even if you do finish Kirk you'll have a small circle of moronic friends.

[MOWGLI]

Listen carefully, here's why what you've said makes no sense; The topic of this thread is whether or not slack packers with support teams are real thru-hikers. I didn't create this thread. I merely expressed my opinion. Is there only one acceptable response?

Of course not, but based upon your evasiveness to my simple questions and your behavior yesterday, you and your alter ego can't be taken seriously.

While you're on a roll lecturing us about the trail, why don't you go down to the Garden and teach the Knicks to shoot and play defense. I'm sure that Larry Brown would appreciate your help since you allegedly shot some hoops back in 5th grade. Afterwards, maybe you could apply for the soon to be vacant head coaching position with the Jets. I'm sure you'd make a fine replacememt for Herm Edwards, especially considering that you've watched some football on TV before.

You see, it's the New York code Kirk. Act like a schmuck, and you'll be treated that way.

[TJ aka Teej]

I think we should all be thankful that Kirkshanks hasn't discovered www.trailplace.com (http://www.trailplace.com) - where all the real hikers are.

[KirkMcquest]

You see, it's the New York code Kirk. Act like a schmuck, and you'll be treated that way.

excellent quote mowgli. I can just picture you composing it, by the dim light of your trailer, between sips of moonshine, while your deformed half brother belts out rhythms on his banjo.

[KirkMcquest]

I've hiked more "proper" miles by accident than you'll ever hike on purpose.

I don't have to justify my accomplishments to you or your gang of ne'erdo wells, wolf. I stand by my opinion no matter how much you try to attack me personally, and I'll keep giving it right back.

[MOWGLI]

excellent quote mowgli. I can just picture you composing it, by the dim light of your trailer, between sips of moonshine, while your deformed half brother belts out rhythms on his banjo.

Yup - definitely a Met fan. :jump

[lbbrown]

excellent quote mowgli. I can just picture you composing it, by the dim light of your trailer, between sips of moonshine, while your deformed half brother belts out rhythms on his banjo.
I can picture you composing in the dark as your head has been inserted up your anal orifice. When you get to your elbow-whistle!

[QHShowoman]

TJ - Now why did you have to go and tell them about trailplace.com ... is nothing sacred around here?

[Mags]

Listen carefully, here's why what you've said makes no sense; The topic of this thread is whether or not slack packers with support teams are real thru-hikers. I didn't create this thread. I merely expressed my opinion. Is there only one acceptable response?

Simple question:

"What is a real thru-hiker?"

What is your definition?

I am not looking for an arguement, just curious as to what you and your buddy consider a real thru-hike.

[the goat]

Let's start a gambling thread. Take bets on Kirky and Longy finishing a thru-hike, or even starting one.

i'm in......i'll bet that they start a thru......but you gotta gimme at least 200-1 odds.

then, if they do start, i want double or nothing that they're divorced before they hit erwin. (reason being: it's too hard to make miles when you're tossing salad with every meal).:eek:

[Nightwalker]

I am going to contribute by stating again that slackpackers are not true thru-hikers. My opinion is clearly echoed by the poll. I wouldn't stop people from hiking however they want, but I would just call it something else. Distinctions can be made. Amazingly, when I resorted to the same tactics as you and your little merry band of rejects, I became a troll. Very lame
Oh, BTW, I forgot to ask. When was your thruhike?

[longshank]

Of course not, but based upon your evasiveness to my simple questions and your behavior yesterday, you and your alter ego can't be taken seriously.

While you're on a roll lecturing us about the trail, why don't you go down to the Garden and teach the Knicks to shoot and play defense. I'm sure that Larry Brown would appreciate your help since you allegedly shot some hoops back in 5th grade. Afterwards, maybe you could apply for the soon to be vacant head coaching position with the Jets. I'm sure you'd make a fine replacememt for Herm Edwards, especially considering that you've watched some football on TV before.

You see, it's the New York code Kirk. Act like a schmuck, and you'll be treated that way.
I will once again and for the last time state that there are not one, but two of us. Give up on that line already. And what fools we mere simpletons to voice opinions on a subject that you all are such self-proclaimed elite crack experts on. Pardon us, please, kind sirs and madames. I beg of you. The new york knicks of hiking, huh? Please spare me your petty ego posturing. Get over yourself. And as far as the new york rule...What the **** would you know about it? Go sip your ****in moonshine, Jeb.

[longshank]

i'm in......i'll bet that they start a thru......but you gotta gimme at least 200-1 odds.

then, if they do start, i want double or nothing that they're divorced before they hit erwin. (reason being: it's too hard to make miles when you're tossing salad with every meal).:eek:
What is it with you southern guys and the ongoing stream of homosexual references? Makes one wonder...

[longshank]

Of course not, but based upon your evasiveness to my simple questions and your behavior yesterday, you and your alter ego can't be taken seriously.

While you're on a roll lecturing us about the trail, why don't you go down to the Garden and teach the Knicks to shoot and play defense. I'm sure that Larry Brown would appreciate your help since you allegedly shot some hoops back in 5th grade. Afterwards, maybe you could apply for the soon to be vacant head coaching position with the Jets. I'm sure you'd make a fine replacememt for Herm Edwards, especially considering that you've watched some football on TV before.

You see, it's the New York code Kirk. Act like a schmuck, and you'll be treated that way.
By the way, no one's trying to lecture anyone at this point, we're just making fun of you now.

[dixicritter]

By the way, no one's trying to lecture anyone at this point, we're just making fun of you now.

It's time to get back on topic or this thread will be closed permanently. Thank you.

[lbbrown]

By the way, no one's trying to lecture anyone at this point, we're just making fun of you now.

Shortshank-Post #311 is for you also!:bse

[longshank]

Shortshank-Post #311 is for you also!:bse
Please don't project your weird fantasy on us any longer, it's skeeving me out.

[Mags]

Simple question:

"What is a real thru-hiker?"

What is your definition?

I am not looking for an arguement, just curious as to what you and your buddy consider a real thru-hike. It is the thread afterall.

Thanks!

[longshank]

My definition of a thru-hiker is someone who begis on one end of the trail with what he has on his back and walks to the other end without taking rides, ditching his pack to reunite with it further down the trail, stopping in towns only when necessary to re-supply and clean up. Stopping in town to party is fine, but you should set off on foot from where you left off, not cheat your miles by catching rides back and forth, or hiking tough sections in the opposite direction to avoid inclines, or depending on support teams to pick you up and drop you off here and there. Simply put: Hike the trail one end to the other.

[Footslogger]

My definition of a thru-hiker is someone who begis on one end of the trail with what he has on his back and walks to the other end without taking rides, ditching his pack to reunite with it further down the trail, stopping in towns only when necessary to re-supply and clean up. Stopping in town to party is fine, but you should set off on foot from where you left off, not cheat your miles by catching rides back and forth, or hiking tough sections in the opposite direction to avoid inclines, or depending on support teams to pick you up and drop you off here and there. Simply put: Hike the trail one end to the other.
=================================
Glad stopping to party in town is fine ...I was getting worried there for a minute.

'Slogger

[Mags]

Simply put: Hike the trail one end to the other.

Simply put? I Agreed. Just hike the trail from one end to the other. Zen and nirvana all in one sentence.

Sooo..if I may ask, why all the other sentences if you add "Simply put:"?

If you honestly wanted to put something simple, why the other qualifier sentences? Is hiking not "simply put"? If so, why?

[ed bell]

Oh, BTW, I forgot to ask. When was your thruhike?
Before the single-topic onslaught by kirk and longshank got rolling, I checked on kirk's other contributions to the site. I think I read he is planning a 2007 Thru-hike in mid to late March. I really hope he is able to give it a go. I know I have life plans that include backpacking long distances on the AT. I think the thread/poll, as it was started, was rather inclined towards definition conflicts. Silly, IMO, but great reading. As to why Kirk and Longshank got attacked, I'd say it was because of the confrontational tone coupled with the desire to keep on arguing. This would have been a fair discussion, but since Kirk and Longshank have never completed a GA>ME or a ME>GA hike as far as I know, I think they are in over their heads on defining a thru-hike. Again, it's rather silly to debate, but fun to read.:D

[longshank]

Simply put? I Agreed. Just hike the trail from one end to the other. Zen and nirvana all in one sentence.

Sooo..if I may ask, why all the other sentences if you add "Simply put:"?

If you honestly wanted to put something simple, why the other qualifier sentences? Is hiking not "simply put"? If so, why?
You people are ridiculously critical of anything I say at this point. The "simply put" sentence was a summation, period. Stop nit-picking and being a general pain in the ass.

[longshank]

Also, hiking, from what I can gather from all the "experts" on this site, is not something "simply put" or there would be no discussion on the topic going on to these sort of extremes.

[Mags]

You people are ridiculously critical of anything I say at this point. The "simply put" sentence was a summation, period. Stop nit-picking and being a general pain in the ass.

I am not being critical. I am simpy asking to explain your defintion further. You have a very simple, concise (and excellent) definition of a thru-hike.

I would just like you to explain further. Notice I did not once insult you. So, if you could please return the favor and expand your definition further, I would appreciate it.

You can start by answering my questions. Why is something so "simply put" complex? Is is not just hiking? If it is not "jus hiking" and is complex, why?


Thank you.

[Mags]

Also, hiking, from what I can gather from all the "experts" on this site, is not something "simply put" or there would be no discussion on the topic going on to these sort of extremes.
It is your defintion, sir. Are you saying your defintion is wrong?

[longshank]

Before the single-topic onslaught by kirk and longshank got rolling, I checked on kirk's other contributions to the site. I think I read he is planning a 2007 Thru-hike in mid to late March. I really hope he is able to give it a go. I know I have life plans that include backpacking long distances on the AT. I think the thread/poll, as it was started, was rather inclined towards definition conflicts. Silly, IMO, but great reading. As to why Kirk and Longshank got attacked, I'd say it was because of the confrontational tone coupled with the desire to keep on arguing. This would have been a fair discussion, but since Kirk and Longshank have never completed a GA>ME or a ME>GA hike as far as I know, I think they are in over their heads on defining a thru-hike. Again, it's rather silly to debate, but fun to read.:D
That doesn't make us any more or less entitled to our opininons on the topic. Our credibility shouldn't have ever become the topic of this discussion.

[longshank]

It is your defintion, sir. Are you saying your defintion is wrong?
No, I'm saying that apparently because of the responses that have been recieved to similar explanations previously made, it seems that I am forced to go to seemingly unnecessary lengths to explain something that seemed that simple.

[longshank]

or should be.

[Jack Tarlin]

Damn, you go away for awhile and all sorts of crazy stuff happens....

First off, let's get the thread back on track: Of course slackpacking is legitimate thru-hiking.....as long as you hike the entire trail, it doesn't overmuch matter how big your pack is or what's in it: Is someone's hike more "legitimate" because they're hauling 67 pounds instead of 27? Of course it isn't.

Of course, when one tells someone they've thru-hiked, the supposition on the part of the listener is that they're talking about an extended BACKPACKING trip, and not an entirely supported trip where you're carrying minimal weight. But that's not what this thread was asking.....if you walk, hike, or backpack the entire Trail, then you've thru-hiked. (Note word "entire.")

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Note to Rock. Battle of "Brandwine Station"? Don't know about it. There was a battle of Brandywine near Chadds Ford PA in September of 1777; there was a battle at Brandy Station in June of 1863 that was NOT considered a Confederate victory at the time.....but Brandwine Station is new to me.

I can only assume Rock has more important things on his mind at the moment.

Final note to the newcomers to Whiteblaze: This site is loosely administered, i.e. there's an extraordinary ammount of freedom here to express yourself, but when folks (especially new ones) use their time here ONLY to be contentious or provacative, this is usually viewed as rudeness. It's possible to disagree here without becoming disagreeable, and the site administrators, esp. Dixie Critter, have all sorts of other more important things to worry about these days that supervising petty squabbles amongst anonymous Internet posters.

In short, some folks need to stick to the subject at hand, and address it. If all you want to do here is squabble and bicker over inconsequential things, well with all due respect, some of you need to find a better way to occupy your idle moments.

[Mags]

No, I'm saying that apparently because of the responses that have been recieved to similar explanations previously made, it seems that I am forced to go to seemingly unnecessary lengths to explain something that seemed that simple.

But it is not simple, is it? Do you think having a website could imply that hiking is multfacted? That perhaps there is more than one way to do something?

Again, no insults. I am just asking questions.

[longshank]

Damn, you go away for awhile and all sorts of crazy stuff happens....

First off, let's get the thread back on track: Of course slackpacking is legitimate thru-hiking.....as long as you hike the entire trail, it doesn't overmuch matter how big your pack is or what's in it: Is someone's hike more "legitimate" because they're hauling 67 pounds instead of 27? Of course it isn't.

Of course, when one tells someone they've thru-hiked, the supposition on the part of the listener is that they're talking about an extended BACKPACKING trip, and not an entirely supported trip where you're carrying minimal weight. But that's not what this thread was asking.....if you walk, hike, or backpack the entire Trail, then you've thru-hiked. (Note word "entire.")

* * * *

Note to Rock. Battle of "Brandwine Station"? Don't know about it. There was a battle of Brandywine near Chadds Ford PA in September of 1777; there was a battle at Brandy Station in June of 1863 that was NOT considered a Confederate victory at the time.....but Brandwine Station is new to me.

I can only assume Rock has more important things on his mind at the moment.

Final note to the newcomers to Whiteblaze: This site is loosely administered, i.e. there's an extraordinary ammount of freedom here to express yourself, but when folks (especially new ones) use their time here ONLY to be contentious or provacative, this is usually viewed as rudeness. It's possible to disagree here without becoming disagreeable, and the site administrators, esp. Dixie Critter, have all sorts of other more important things to worry about these days that supervising petty squabbles amongst anonymous Internet posters.

In short, some folks need to stick to the subject at hand, and address it. If all you want to do here is squabble and bicker over inconsequential things, well with all due respect, some of you need to find a better way to occupy your idle moments.
But that IS what the thread is asking...read the title.

[longshank]

"Of course, when one tells someone they've thru-hiked, the supposition on the part of the listener is that they're talking about an extended BACKPACKING trip, and not an entirely supported trip where you're carrying minimal weight. But that's not what this thread was asking....."

[longshank]

Slackpacking

[longshank]

slackpacking w/support

[longshank]

teams...........

[longshank]

sorry...keyboard probs...

[Mags]

I think they are in over their heads on defining a thru-hike. Again, it's rather silly to debate, but fun to read.:D

Fun to lamb bast too..mmm

[ed bell]

That doesn't make us any more or less entitled to our opininons on the topic. Our credibility shouldn't have ever become the topic of this discussion.Never said you weren't entitled to an opinon. Credibility, on the other hand, has EVERYTHING to do with being taken seriously.:)

[SGT Rock]

Note to Rock. Battle of "Brandwine Station"? Don't know about it. There was a battle of Brandywine near Chadds Ford PA in September of 1777; there was a battle at Brandy Station in June of 1863 that was NOT considered a Confederate victory at the time.....but Brandwine Station is new to me.

I can only assume Rock has more important things on his mind at the moment.

LOL, yes I do, This week has been a little hectic getting ready to go to Iraq. I was trying to go back and re-pack everything because a new list of what to take with us to Ft Hood had just come out, and it was jacked up...

But anyway. In my Regimental history it was always listed as the Battle of Brandywine station (I don't know why) but after checking Google I have found that battle listed as the battle of Brandy Station. My unit (2d Cavalry) fought and list this battle as one of the ones they didn't do so well in, looks like the Union had about 800 casualties while the Confederacy had about 500. This battle was supposed to be the largest cavalry battle in the war as I remeber it. The 2d Cavalry was only one of the many Union regiments participating, so it may have been one of the ones that didn't do so hot if that is how they chose to remember the battle. Usually positive spin goes on most everything.

[longshank]

Never said you weren't entitled to an opinon. Credibility, on the other hand, has EVERYTHING to do with being taken seriously.:)
Percieved credibility, I should have said. And either way, I should be able to voice it without being mocked.

[longshank]

Frankly, others were shot down by Lwolf &co. earlier in this thread for stating op's that differed from what that said hecklers believed. Only difference is we had something to say back about it.

[longshank]

Fun to lamb bast too..mmm
We get it...you made a funny.

[Mags]

We get it...you made a funny.


well I have to do something waiting for the answers to my questions. :)

Would you like a my marinara sauce recipe while I am a it? It is quite good.

Nice use of the word "skeeve" by the way. It is the dialect version of schifo.

[SGT Rock]

Well actually longshanks, you started off by mocking others.


Going without a pack and catching rides is no longer hiking, it's long distance jogging. I guess if if it's just to much for you to handle, than you should do the best you can, though. It's all right, you'll be a big boy someday, little guy.

Then went to beligerence when I asked you to stop, then right up to harassing others with your friend, and even included assuming what others had voted on and mocking them for stuff they never said.

Impressive, but that does not excuse you're slackpacking. - I don't slackpack.

Add to that disrespect to the Administrator for even having the nerve to ask you to stop and trying to tell me how to run a website.


Let's all take a moment and bow our heads in gratitude for all the heroes, like sgt Rock and his grand cavalry, who strive day by day to keep these good people of america safe from rising oil prices and a lack of inexpensive overseas underage labor forces...

Now you want to re-write yourself into bing someone that simply defended themselves for voicing an opinion?

No, by definition, you and Kirk have been trolling, I simply want y'all to do something more than that or less than that. I still can't see how y'all find that request hard to do.

Anyway, I have noticed in all your 60 posts, 59 of them have been to this one thread in a verbal childs game. I reckon if I clos the thread it will end your participation in the stupid game.