View Full Version : Osprey Argon 110
YoungMoose
02-08-2009, 21:49
I will buy a osprey argon 110. If you can get me the right price i will buy it from you. other wise ill order it online. figured it worth a try here first.
All kidding aside, why would you?
1) It's far too large for anything other than expedition packing.
2) Horribly overpriced unless someone's buying it for you.
3) Terribly heavy at nearly 7 lbs.
4) It will be even more heavy when you stuff it full of God-knows-what like people with huge packs like that tend to do.
Do yourself a favor and do a lot more research before you commit to such an oversized and overpriced pack.
YoungMoose
02-08-2009, 22:00
i was also thnking of the gregory whitney
I understand that you're a kid and all, but what's this obsession with these huge packs? Don't you think you'd be better off letting your folks help you pick one?
http://www.o2gearshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=USD&products_id=2183&CAWELAID=193184365
So what are you going to be doing with this monster pack anyway?
BIG TIGER
02-09-2009, 07:01
Take a look at the Gregory Shasta i have for sell. Its a good big pack.
Ron
YoungMoose
02-09-2009, 14:35
I understand that you're a kid and all, but what's this obsession with these huge packs? Don't you think you'd be better off letting your folks help you pick one?i want a pack thats over 5500 cb becuase it wouldnt last me over a week.
YoungMoose
02-09-2009, 14:36
http://www.o2gearshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=USD&products_id=2183&CAWELAID=193184365
So what are you going to be doing with this monster pack anyway?
I saw that deal already. thats were ill buy it from.
YoungMoose
02-09-2009, 14:44
i am going to get a aether 85 by osprey. i think that this one is good. what do you guys think
big_muddy
02-09-2009, 14:45
i want a pack thats over 5500 cb becuase it wouldnt last me over a week.
What are you haling? Your on still?
YoungMoose
02-09-2009, 14:49
What are you haling? Your on still?i heard that its a good weight. last summer i went to outward bound. they said if u want to bring your own pack bring on over 5500
i heard that its a good weight. last summer i went to outward bound. they said if u want to bring your own pack bring on over 5500so are you doing it again this summer and want to bring your own pack that meets their minimum specifications or are you buying a pack for whatever you want to do. I don't think their recommendation is good, but if that is what they require and you are doing it again then go for it.
mister krabs
02-09-2009, 15:07
i heard that its a good weight. last summer i went to outward bound. they said if u want to bring your own pack bring on over 5500
You'd be wise to find out what you'll have to carry then make any lighter/smaller substitutions you can and then choose a pack based on gear rather than advice to bring the biggest pack in most company's product lines.
big_muddy
02-09-2009, 17:08
i heard that its a good weight. last summer i went to outward bound. they said if u want to bring your own pack bring on over 5500
Outward Bound and NOLS can sack you with gear; too much in my opinion. The problem with recommending a specific sized pack is that a 5500 c inch pack won't work for everyone. Someone with a smaller body frame, etc. can't always carry such a large pack. I know when I was young I'd never be able to carry such a large pack, and I can only do it now if I really watch the weight. It is best to get the pack that fits you the best even if it is a little under 5500.
If you are looking at a pack good for backpacking on your own you probably won't need something that large.
If money is no object look at Mystery Ranch, they make some of the best "major load" haling packs around.
Outward Bound and NOLS can sack you with gear; too much in my opinion. The problem with recommending a specific sized pack is that a 5500 c inch pack won't work for everyone. Someone with a smaller body frame, etc. can't always carry such a large pack. I know when I was young I'd never be able to carry such a large pack, and I can only do it now if I really watch the weight. It is best to get the pack that fits you the best even if it is a little under 5500.
If you are looking at a pack good for backpacking on your own you probably won't need something that large.
If money is no object look at Mystery Ranch, they make some of the best "major load" haling packs around.
Agreed. When I worked outdoor retail our eyes used to light up when a NOLS or OB kid walked through the door. An entire day of commission on one customer who was gonna walk out the door with a 1000-2000 dollar head to toe outfit.
IMO, these organizations don't properly prepare people for the outdoors, but turn a lot of young people off to backpacking by making them suffer through what they think is backpacking--hauling 80 lbs of junk at 5 miles per day.
I'd go with something smaller and lighter and not bring all the stuff they suggest. Or better yet, save your parents a couple grand and seek out some partners on the net who want to make their own trip/
Jack Tarlin
02-09-2009, 17:25
OutwardBound:
I have thru-hiked several times in 110-liter Osprey packs.
The packs were great. They were comfortable, rode well, were well made, held up great, required little or no maintenance.
In retrospect, tho, they were bigger and heavier than I really needed. There will be VERY few times on the A.T. that one is out on a stretch of Trail for more than 5 or 6 days. In most cases, you'll be carrting between 2 and 5 days worth of supplies. One simply doesn't need a 7000-cubic inch pack on the A.T. so I hope you'll reconsider this. There are plenty of great packs out there (including some great Ospreys) that won't weigh seven and a half pounds.........empty.
Outward Bound participants carry gear that is meant to last with much heavy-duty programatic use. As such, it's usually fairly bulky and often heavier than most individuals chose to carry on personal trips. Because of the punishment their gear takes, OB certainly doesn't focus on the lightweight approach! That said, I think they do a great job at introducing people to outdoor adventures and ethics.
If you're buying a pack that you expect to use at OB, you will need the 5500! Most just use the packs they provide. Will they not provide you one?
If you're not needing a pack for an OB course, gather all of your gear and pick a pack that it'll all fit in, that you like and that you can afford. The less expensive gear often requires a little more space than the high dollar gear. It all depends on what you carry.
Good luck!
at 14 you are still growing ,to invest in a high end pack well fitted would be better at 20 when your size is more stable I have a lot of gear much of it unused that was for my son who no longer hikes PM me with size, items needed etc I could put together a complete set
big_muddy
02-09-2009, 18:01
My first pack at 14 was Lowe Alpine pack. They arn't the latest and greatest, but they are great for a growing torso, and are pretty bomber. You can often find them for pretty cheep on Sierra Trading Post most of the time.
Also as an FYI there is a great podcast right now on Practical Backpacking with the founder of ULA about picking and sizing a backpack.
YoungMoose
02-09-2009, 18:26
for everyones information im pretty much done growing. im 6'1 and docs says im going to be 6'3 the most. I am not doing outwardbound again becuase of how much it ****ing cost. I am buying this pack for my own interst. i agree they give us useless **** to carry. I want a pack though that i can feel comfortable with not worrying about leaving things behind. I am asking what do you think of the aether 85 by osprey.
puddingboy
02-09-2009, 20:39
OutwardBound
I would take into account how much you weigh. I go by the 1/5 your body weight rule and it seems to work well. I think this pack looks way to big but if you are going to be on over a week hikes go for it.
sbennett
02-09-2009, 21:47
OutwardBound:
I think the Osprey Aether 85 is a nice pack if you're worried about not leaving something behind at home. It doesn't weigh THAT much I guess...at least not in comparison to the Argon 110. Should be a comfortable pack but I'll be interested in how quickly you start finding things in your pack that you really don't need.
unclemjm
02-10-2009, 00:47
I am from the school of get your gear first and then get the pack that it takes to carry it the best. Then go to the store and try on packs, load it with your stuff and walk around the store to see how it rides, then if you like it, buy it.
Having said that if one is set on a really big pack, I have a Gregory Whitney that is just like new, only been carried a few times, that I could part with, but don't go there unless you are really sure.
YoungMoose
02-10-2009, 10:59
i dont carry that much stuff but i have to carry my friends stuff becuase he doesnt have a big enough pack
So.... you would buy the wrong pack because your friend has the wrong pack?:-?
....and if your friends all jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff?:cool:
Maybe if you get the right pack, you'll be a positive influence on your friend.
optimator
02-10-2009, 12:10
i dont carry that much stuff but i have to carry my friends stuff becuase he doesnt have a big enough pack
Then make him get a new pack!
YoungMoose
02-10-2009, 12:20
i know that i should make him carry his stuff but i lake to take the challenge of carrying it more. also i have a 3000 cubic inches and it doesnt work out that good. i carry the tent, my sleeping bag, clothes, my food, and other gear. anyone have the idea of a better pack for less. i will never buy the brand kelty.
What is wrong with Kelty?
YoungMoose
02-10-2009, 14:32
i think kelty is a ****y brand
Jack Tarlin
02-10-2009, 14:33
If that's what you think, you're mis-informed.
Kelty's been making good gear for a very long time.
YoungMoose
02-10-2009, 14:45
i can get a better quality that a bigger backpack from osprey. the aether 85
Here is what I would do. Buy a Kelty Red Cloud for half the price of the Aether 85 and take the rest of the money and put it in the "taking girls(or guys) out and trying to score" fund.
puddingboy
02-10-2009, 18:09
I have a kelty and it works great, it has about 4500 cubic inches and i got it for less than $100
isn't outward bound a program for kids who have emotional problems?
sbennett
02-10-2009, 20:28
isn't outward bound a program for kids who have emotional problems?
haha, I think you might have it confused with a different kind of camp....
YoungMoose
02-10-2009, 23:00
isn't outward bound a program for kids who have emotional problems?no theres a certian part of it that for that. its called the intercept program. i was in the regualr ones. anyone can go. so dont think i have emotional problems
mtnkngxt
02-11-2009, 08:27
ULA Catalyst its what people who care about function not name brand are using. A+ Construction and fit. If your really 6'1 at 14 then you'd prob want a large with a medium belt unless your built like a stick. If not grab a Gregory Whitney you can carry your own sherpa :rolleyes:
I had an Argon 85 and it was a great pack. If you are going to be carrying a Heavy load, that pack is as comfy as it get's. That being said, I found it too big for my need's. I think as you hike more you will automatically start streamlining your gear. I had an Aether 70 for my thru-hike this summer and still could go much smaller. That's about as big as I'd reccomend.
mister krabs
02-11-2009, 11:14
If you really want a big 5500ci pack, take a look at Big Tiger's Gregory Shasta in the used gear forum. http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46005
100$ barely used sounds like a freaking great deal on a near 300$ pack to me. Quality should be similar to osprey.
at 14 you are still growing ,to invest in a high end pack well fitted would be better at 20 when your size is more stable I have a lot of gear much of it unused that was for my son who no longer hikes PM me with size, items needed etc I could put together a complete set
Spinal length is pretty much settled by puberty. Any additional height is from the legs growing. I would be that if the lad is fitted with a pack now, it will still fit him years from now...