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Just wanted to mention I am about half way through this book and really enjoying it. Author is a bit Hunter Thompson-ish, but fun to read.
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 17:04
Wrong conjunction, if true. Should be "a bit Hunter Thompson-ish, AND fun to read." Although that's redundant. :-?
Weasy
PS: MUST find this book.:D
[quote=The Weasel;798605]Wrong conjunction, if true. Should be "a bit Hunter Thompson-ish, AND fun to read." Although that's redundant. :-?
Who made you conjunction picker? Bad enough we hav to worry about spellin anf grammer. Now we got a conjucntion picker.
That is a good AT book, definetely.
wrongway_08
03-10-2009, 17:23
Never heard of it, so looked it up ..... gotta go find this book!!!!
Dead Men Hike No Trails is one man's honest tale of hiking the 2,174-mile long Appalachian Trail in one contiguous walk from Georgia to Maine. It is a life-affirming, exultant howl from the highest mountaintops of the American east coast. It out-shouts the dark siren song of depression and stomps suicidal ideation into the dirt. It says everything is going to be okay, even when all evidence supports the contrary.
The author: "Following a friend's suicide in 2003, I faced my own suicidal depression and a choice. Dwell in grief and probably soon join my dead friend, or run gonzo crazy and free in the opposite direction, blazing bright and deep in the jungles of America, hiking and writing until my feet and fingers bled with pure honest screeching love for life."
A professional writer until suicidal depression cost him his career, house, and fiancée, McKinney saw in the Appalachian Trail the perfect story, that and a much-needed long walk. It presented a glimmer of hope, an opportunity to get out of his head and on his feet.
I have every book Hunter Thompson wrote. In fact, the Rum Diary's pages are starting to fall out.
Looks like I'll be hunting for Dead Men hike No Trails.
Never heard of it, so looked it up ..... gotta go find this book!!!!
Dead Men Hike No Trails is one man's honest tale of hiking the 2,174-mile long Appalachian Trail in one contiguous walk from Georgia to Maine. It is a life-affirming, exultant howl from the highest mountaintops of the American east coast. It out-shouts the dark siren song of depression and stomps suicidal ideation into the dirt. It says everything is going to be okay, even when all evidence supports the contrary.
The author: "Following a friend's suicide in 2003, I faced my own suicidal depression and a choice. Dwell in grief and probably soon join my dead friend, or run gonzo crazy and free in the opposite direction, blazing bright and deep in the jungles of America, hiking and writing until my feet and fingers bled with pure honest screeching love for life."
thanks for the heads up, fiction or nonfiction
A professional writer until suicidal depression cost him his career, house, and fiancée, McKinney saw in the Appalachian Trail the perfect story, that and a much-needed long walk. It presented a glimmer of hope, an opportunity to get out of his head and on his feet.
Thanks for the description, fiction or nonfiction.
wrongway_08
03-10-2009, 18:20
Non-fiction - at least thats what it says on the site.
Johnny Thunder
03-10-2009, 19:05
Rick McKenney is a solid friend to many on this site. If you have problems finding it on Amazon (or something), Matthewski could probably put you in touch with him.
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 19:28
The "friend" who committed suicide was HST. And - and I pick my conjunctions wisely, since I receive much of my income from doing so - that, in itself, is enough reason to read this book. Obviously, when McKenney proves that, when the going gets tough, the tough get weird.
Weasy
freefall
03-10-2009, 19:31
...when the going gets tough, the tough get weird.
Weasy
And when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
RedneckRye
03-10-2009, 19:37
The author: "Following a friend's suicide in 2003, I faced my own suicidal depression and a choice. Dwell in grief and probably soon join my dead friend, or run gonzo crazy and free in the opposite direction, blazing bright and deep in the jungles of America, hiking and writing until my feet and fingers bled with pure honest screeching love for life."
The "friend" who committed suicide was HST. And - and I pick my conjunctions wisely, since I receive much of my income from doing so - that, in itself, is enough reason to read this book. Obviously, when McKenney proves that, when the going gets tough, the tough get weird.
Weasy
HST pulled the trigger for the final time on Feb 20, 2005.
Pick your conjunctions, but also check your basic facts.
HST pulled the trigger for the final time on Feb 20, 2005.
Pick your conjunctions, but also check your basic facts.
Just curious, I have not read the book yet. From what I have read, it seems he hiked the trail in 2004 and released the book in 2005, the info I read, said he was hiking the trail because he lost a friend to suicide, and was comtemplating this himself. HST I assume is Hunter Thompson. HST left in 05. correct or incorrect
HST pulled the trigger for the final time on Feb 20, 2005.
Pick your conjunctions, but also check your basic facts.huh huh, you said "but"
The conjunctivitis guy will now replace it with an "and"
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 19:58
huh huh, you said "but"
The conjunctivitis guy will now replace it with an "and"
No need to. Thanks for the help.
Weasy
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 20:18
HST pulled the trigger for the final time on Feb 20, 2005.
Pick your conjunctions, but also check your basic facts.
There was no time for scholarly details, and, besides, I have always believed that a man can fairly be judged by the standards and taste of his choices in matters of high-level plagiarism.
Weasy
Mrs Baggins
03-10-2009, 20:29
Just ordered it. I pride myself on owning every book written about the AT (and some other hiking books) so I'm thrilled to hear about this one!
camojack
03-10-2009, 20:55
There was no time for scholarly details, and, besides, I have always believed that a man can fairly be judged by the standards and taste of his choices in matters of high-level plagiarism.
Obviously, you agree with that...but you forgot to attribute and/or put it in quotation marks.
Tipi Walter
03-10-2009, 21:04
Phew, I was doing okay until the pus reached my brain.
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 21:25
There was no time for scholarly details, and, besides, I have always believed that a man can fairly be judged by the standards and taste of his choices in matters of high-level plagiarism.
Weasy
Obviously, you agree with that...but you forgot to attribute and/or put it in quotation marks.it
Ummm....Camojack? Perhaps you need to read that post again, a bit more closely. It meets the standards of the Columbia University School of Journalism doctoral program, I understand, with regard to my standards and choices in matters of high-level plagiarism. :-?
Weasy
camojack
03-10-2009, 21:56
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Ummm....Camojack? Perhaps you need to read that post again, a bit more closely. It meets the standards of the Columbia University School of Journalism doctoral program, I understand, with regard to my standards and choices in matters of high-level plagiarism. :-?
Weasy
As I said, obviously, you agree with that. Plagiarism is plagiarism, rationalize it though you may...
I bought Dead Men and have read a small portion of it. I hope it gets better. And I think it will with many pages to get to BIG K.
The Weasel
03-10-2009, 22:18
Of course plagiarism is plagiarism, Camojack. What else could it be? I mean, if plagiarism were, say, tuna fish, it just wouldn't be the plagiarism, now would it. (And tuna fish wouldn't be the same, either; I mean, who would plan on carrying tuna fish on a trek if it was really plagiarism in that can?) So yeah, I give you credit for an outstanding non sequitur. And thank you for the compliment of recognizing that I was plagiarizing Dr. Duke about plagiarising, and how I must, I guess, be in his company for having done so. Damn. Gonzo lives, and maybe not just in the underground. Thanks, CJ.;)
Weasy
Of course plagiarism is plagiarism, Camojack. What else could it be? I mean, if plagiarism were, say, tuna fish, it just wouldn't be the plagiarism, now would it. What's in a name? That which we call a tuna by any other name would smell as .... hmm, bad example.
camojack
03-10-2009, 23:07
Of course plagiarism is plagiarism, Camojack. What else could it be? I mean, if plagiarism were, say, tuna fish, it just wouldn't be the plagiarism, now would it. (And tuna fish wouldn't be the same, either; I mean, who would plan on carrying tuna fish on a trek if it was really plagiarism in that can?) So yeah, I give you credit for an outstanding non sequitur. And thank you for the compliment of recognizing that I was plagiarizing Dr. Duke about plagiarising, and how I must, I guess, be in his company for having done so. Damn. Gonzo lives, and maybe not just in the underground. Thanks, CJ.;)
Weasy
You can be as garrulous and/or loquacious as you wish; it doesn't change the fact that you're a plagiarist.
And the only non sequitur (or should I say obfuscation?) came from you.
One last thing: "Gonzo" is dead, like the "tuna fish" (a redundancy, BTW) in my pantry...
I like tuna and I'm gonna get the book.
superman
03-10-2009, 23:27
My New Years resolution is to only read books that mention me.:)
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 01:04
You can be as garrulous and/or loquacious as you wish; it doesn't change the fact that you're a plagiarist.
And the only non sequitur (or should I say obfuscation?) came from you.
One last thing: "Gonzo" is dead, like the "tuna fish" (a redundancy, BTW) in my pantry...
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Of course it was plagiarism, you dolt! That was the point. Egad. Dr. Duke says, "You're judged by the quality of someone else's prose you steal," so I steal his words (thereby elevating myself, ipso facto - look it up! -to his lofty place in the pantheon), and actually steal them in a context in which I have no doubt he would have, if sober, would approve of, and other times might shoot out my headlights (in my car, not my face), just as he reputably did to that other weasel, John Denver, I believe. And (note the conjunction, by the way), what do I get? An accusation that I've plagiarised? That's the best you can do? My God, man! That was the purpose of the exercise! :banana
And (yet again, the conjunction; I can't help it) you use "non sequitur" and "obfuscation" as synonyms, when it is you who equates "plagiarism" with - gasp! - plagiarism? Then, the effrontery of asserting that "Gonzo is dead!" Sir, millions of small children will weep at your words as they think of that gentle, furry little creature, as will dozens of HSTs readers in rehab as well as Bill Murray and Johnny Depp. While Doctor Gonzo may be dead, Gonzo is no more dead than the Disco that Raoul Duke so wisely despised.:cool:
One hopes, however, that you are correct that, like Kurtz, the tuna in your pantry is dead. If not, the horror! the horror!:eek:
Thread drift? Did someone say, "Thread drift?"
Weasy
camojack
03-11-2009, 01:21
Of course it was plagiarism, you dolt! That was the point. Egad. Dr. Duke says, "You're judged by the quality of someone else's prose you steal," so I steal his words (thereby elevating myself, ipso facto - look it up! -to his lofty place in the pantheon), and actually steal them in a context in which I have no doubt he would have, if sober, would approve of, and other times might shoot out my headlights (in my car, not my face), just as he reputably did to that other weasel, John Denver, I believe. And (note the conjunction, by the way), what do I get? An accusation that I've plagiarised? That's the best you can do? My God, man! That was the purpose of the exercise! :banana
And (yet again, the conjunction; I can't help it) you use "non sequitur" and "obfuscation" as synonyms, when it is you who equates "plagiarism" with - gasp! - plagiarism? Then, the effrontery of asserting that "Gonzo is dead!" Sir, millions of small children will weep at your words as they think of that gentle, furry little creature, as will dozens of HSTs readers in rehab as well as Bill Murray and Johnny Depp. While Doctor Gonzo may be dead, Gonzo is no more dead than the Disco that Raoul Duke so wisely despised.:cool:
One hopes, however, that you are correct that, like Kurtz, the tuna in your pantry is dead. If not, the horror! the horror!:eek:
Thread drift? Did someone say, "Thread drift?"
Weasy
I realize that you are attempting to be amusing...but if you're going to call me a dolt, you are violating the terms of service here.
Actually, I wasn't using "non sequitur" and "obfuscation" as synonyms. I was merely pointing out that you were claiming that I was doing the former, when in actuality you were doing the latter.
I also realize that you have a high opinion of yourself, but that doesn't mean that it's justified.
Oh, and I don't need to look up "ipso facto" either, thank you very little...
you can tune a piano, but you can't tune a weasy :eek:
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 10:45
[quote=camojack;798903]I realize that you are attempting to be amusing...but if you're going to call me a dolt, you are violating the terms of service here.
Actually, I wasn't using "non sequitur" and "obfuscation" as synonyms. I was merely pointing out that you were claiming that I was doing the former, when in actuality you were doing the latter.
I also realize that you have a high opinion of yourself, but that doesn't mean that it's justified.
Oh, and I don't need to look up "ipso facto" either, thank you very little...[/quote
Camojack, "dolt" is not used here as an insult, but much as Holmes' reference to Watson in the noted joke, as a combination of exclamation and, to your possible bewilderment, affection. As for my opinion of myself, actually it is at once less than what you might think (but may still be, for all that, unjustified, too), but as high as the company of HST into which you essentially (if, obviously, unwittingly) catapulted me. :D
Feel free to lighten up; life is good. Jake and Rocky assure me of that daily. :sun
Weasy
[quote=The Weasel;798605]Wrong conjunction, if true. Should be "a bit Hunter Thompson-ish, AND fun to read." Although that's redundant. :-?
Who made you conjunction picker? Bad enough we hav to worry about spellin anf grammer. Now we got a conjucntion picker.
The Weasel was making a literary comment about Hunter Thompson, a writer who always provided both information and laughter in the same sentences.
Weary
wow, thank god this isn't a hiker site or anything like that, who needs to learn about hiking or anything related to hiking when you can have a pissing contest over grammer
Desert Reprobate
03-11-2009, 11:19
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wow, thank god this isn't a hiker site or anything like that, who needs to learn about hiking or anything related to hiking when you can have a pissing contest over grammerYouman grammar. :banana
well, one must be careful with their alliterations while hiking, otherwise they may trip up and mess up and be down when they should be up
Youman grammar. :bananaYou mean grammar.......too late, I already screwed the pooch on that one. :rolleyes:
Youman grammar. :banana
little early for drinking isn't it?
The mentioned suicide was a personal friend of McKinney's. The suicide he is talking about is not HST.
little early for drinking isn't it?Never. :D
Of course plagiarism is plagiarism, Camojack. What else could it be? I mean, if plagiarism were, say, tuna fish, it just wouldn't be the plagiarism, now would it. (And tuna fish wouldn't be the same, either; I mean, who would plan on carrying tuna fish on a trek if it was really plagiarism in that can?) So yeah, I give you credit for an outstanding non sequitur. And thank you for the compliment of recognizing that I was plagiarizing Dr. Duke about plagiarising, and how I must, I guess, be in his company for having done so. Damn. Gonzo lives, and maybe not just in the underground. Thanks, CJ.;)
Weasy
Lots of words to say nothing.
Lots of words to say nothing.
it's called poetic license or free speech or drivel ... take your pick :)
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 12:32
little early for drinking isn't it?
In a discussion involving HST, drinking is sort of essential.:D
The mentioned suicide was a personal friend of McKinney's. The suicide he is talking about is not HST.
As Dr. Duke would say, and perhaps did say, and still might say, "Facts have little to do with the truth." :rolleyes:
Lots of words to say nothing.
Often, it takes more words to say nothing, than to say something. That is because it is often more important that nothing be said. :-?
it's called poetic license or free speech or drivel ... take your pick :)
It can even be all four. :banana
Weasy
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 12:47
Drivel is protected "free" speech. So it's at least three out of those five.
Weasy
Drivel is protected "free" speech. So it's at least three out of those five.
Weasy
pooping is the woods is free speech... but you seem to enjoy packing that... why not pack the drivel too? :)
Monkeyboy
03-11-2009, 12:49
Drivel is protected "free" speech.
Weasy
That's why your allowed to post what you do........:banana
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 13:01
pooping is the woods is free speech... but you seem to enjoy packing that... why not pack the drivel too? :)
Well, actually, Tin Man, after repeated re-readings of the US Constitution and most of the amendments to it (I took a pass on the 23rd), I can't find the provision that says that "pooping in the woods is free speech." You seem familiar with "poop" in conjunction with "speech," so point me to where I can find that. LEXIS doesn't come up with any pertinent case decisions, either, although I will posit that if you're doing so to express an opinion about the woods, well, it's possibly covered. But I don't think you'll win that one. Good luck, though, and if you want me to represent you, let me know. I'll be glad to, but I get paid up front on this one.
As for packing out free speech, as you correctly note, I enjoy doing so. As with trash from fire pits that I put in my pack, I'll be glad to pack out your drivel anytime, too. LNT matters.
Weasy
provoked drivel is drivel at it's finest... nice job :D
The Weasel
03-11-2009, 13:06
That's why your allowed to post what you do........
Actually, it's not. "Free speech" has nothing to with 'Troll's and Rock's tolerance here. We post what they allow, and I'm mighty glad they are as open as they have always been.
Weasy
That's why your allowed to post what you do........:banana
drivel troll don't know when to quit :rolleyes:
dude, weasy's being funny. camo's being the annoying grammar police. i'm gonna go poke out my eye balls now.
Maybe at this conjunction we should get back on topic.
D'Artagnan
03-11-2009, 13:44
Some pos(t)ers on this site are so predictable.
Alligator
03-11-2009, 14:02
I'm going to repost the thread start. Please don't muck it up again.