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At 5'7" gear is no problem for me, but often I see some tall folk moaning about "small" (what I call normal size) tents, solo shelters in particular.
So here are a couple of pictures of the inside of the TT Scarp1. The same will be with the Scarp 2 just wider.
Inside there is an Exped DM7, 71" and at the other end my size 9 shoes, 12" (coincidentally that is a foot)
My measured floor length is 84", however it is a few inches wider up a bit from the bottom. Right at the ends the minimum height is 15" so for me laying on top of the DM7 my nose is 7" away from the inner. Another few inches are between the inner and the fly.
Franco
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Scarp%201/Scarp-one-end.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Scarp%201/Scarp-the-other-end.jpg
I TRY and try but?Why would a tent man even post a 84'',given even at least a 78'' plus loft down bag is needed.:-?
Your good at pic's.Let me send you my WM bag to show all...how that sweet 84'' will handle the bag?And room left over for a TALL PERSON.
Slow
If you use a 7' WM bag then I can blame you for the extra foot of unnecessary (for me...) length. Yes a 7" bag will fit in there because you still have about 4" at both ends between the inner and the fly, so not a problem if you touch the wall, also where the fabric starts it is already a bit longer than my stated measurements.
The max height is 39", not that great but better than most solo shelters. Maybe you need to wait for the Scarp 2.
Franco
Please stop with T.T.:)
IF my bag @7' and 2.5 pad what do i have left overall...with movement in night. none:eek:
To avoid any unpleasant movements at night try Tena
http://www.tena.com.au/Men/ (http://www.tena.com.au/Men/)
No one needs to know, it will be our secret
Franco
To avoid any unpleasant movements at night try Tena
http://www.tena.com.au/Men/ (http://www.tena.com.au/Men/)
No one needs to know, it will be our secret
Franco
Wrong is wrong.If i'm wrong show ME?..simple...that a 84'' LIKE YOU POSTED can hold a 7' bag and pad with ease.... you said for the TALL... or are you tring to pump something that wont work?
Slow
Only because you are so passionate about Tarptents, I have measured the floor again just to see why I had a different length to the one listed by TT. I should have done that before because those measurements at TT are always very accurate. The difference is very simple. When I measured the floor it was in tension and floating a bit and I quickly took the distance between the narrowest point. ( in my mind 84" was more than enough for most so I did not bother checking) When the floor is relaxed or you put some weight on it changes from a curved bottom to a corner, measuring that the correct measurement is just over 86". Again above the black floor the walls can be pushed out to 91" (mid pole to mid pole) still without touching the fly. However most people that fit inside a 7' sleeping bag will also be able to fit within 86/86.5". But I would not suggest you buy a Tarptent, sooner or later SMD will have a solo shelter that you can fit inside.
Franco
Camping Dave
03-15-2009, 21:56
So we have a short guy recommending a tent for tall people, and a tall guy saying it's not big enough ... and they're arguring. What am I missing here?
4eyedbuzzard
03-15-2009, 22:06
So we have a short guy recommending a tent for tall people, and a tall guy saying it's not big enough ... and they're arguring. What am I missing here?
Something about 7" and 7' and 84" and incontinence medication but the rest didn't make any sense.
So we have a short guy recommending a tent for tall people, and a tall guy saying it's not big enough ... and they're arguring. What am I missing here?
See i talked to Henry 2yr ago about a 6'6 bag in a contrail,and he said at 84'' it will be tuff, but can work with the floor relaxed.So that means dropping the floor ht and less water coverage at ground level.I will not take a chance of getting my WM bags wet so i went with SMD for a tent at a true 90'' floor.It has been great in size plus keeping my bags dry.BTW when you are a belly sleeper you need more room.:)
Camping Dave
03-15-2009, 22:48
It's all very clear now.
For my 7' bag i had MLD make a custom Serenity tent.
FamilyGuy
03-16-2009, 00:07
See i talked to Henry 2yr ago about a 6'6 bag in a contrail,and he said at 84'' it will be tuff, but can work with the floor relaxed.So that means dropping the floor ht and less water coverage at ground level.I will not take a chance of getting my WM bags wet so i went with SMD for a tent at a true 90'' floor.It has been great in size plus keeping my bags dry.BTW when you are a belly sleeper you need more room.:)
I had the same discussion with Henry - he said I would be fine and it is. There is plenty of room for a 6'6" bag with a few inches at each end of the bag to the walls. Slow....you would fit!!
I had the same discussion with Henry - he said I would be fine and it is. There is plenty of room for a 6'6" bag with a few inches at each end of the bag to the walls. Slow....you would fit!!
Thanks.I just dont want a few inches to fit and not be happy...cause my bag got wet due to i moved an inch or two in the night.Tents are cheap and my bags are not.Plus it's nice not to feel stuffed in a tent.
daddytwosticks
03-16-2009, 08:54
Slow, my 6'6" Caribou works fine in my Contrail...no problems at all. :)
Camping Dave
03-16-2009, 09:32
It's high time somebody jumped in and set you straight Slow. The problem is not the tent. The problem is you. You obviously don't know how to use your gear. Too light too fast, inexperience, needs training, needs a heavy gear crutch, I recommend a bivy and a poncho, trail runners take less room than boots, try sandals, you don't a big vestibule for a tealight stove, etc. etc. etc. , You're carrying an extra 2oz just to have a big comfortable tent. WHAT ?! Anathema heathen!
And UL is NOT a religion for me.
Ooops, sorry, got carried away :D
FamilyGuy
03-16-2009, 10:52
It's high time somebody jumped in and set you straight Slow. The problem is not the tent. The problem is you. You obviously don't know how to use your gear. Too light too fast, inexperience, needs training, needs a heavy gear crutch, I recommend a bivy and a poncho, trail runners take less room than boots, try sandals, you don't a big vestibule for a tealight stove, etc. etc. etc. , You're carrying an extra 2oz just to have a big comfortable tent. WHAT ?! Anathema heathen!
And UL is NOT a religion for me.
Ooops, sorry, got carried away :D
This discussion has nothing to do with UL - instead it has to do with clarifying some specifications for Slow. It has nothing to do with anyone insinuating that Slow does not know how to use his gear. Obviously he has some interest in the TT products.
FamilyGuy
03-16-2009, 11:02
Thanks.I just dont want a few inches to fit and not be happy...cause my bag got wet due to i moved an inch or two in the night.Tents are cheap and my bags are not.Plus it's nice not to feel stuffed in a tent.
Hey Slow - you are right that there is not a ton of room at each end with the 'long' sized bag. But noticeably more than say, a Seedhouse SL1 for example (not a shot against the SL1 - it is very good!). The nice thing is that the footprint is vertical - no sloping walls at either end.
Good point about not feeling stuffed inside the tent. The Contrail is wider than the specs might suggest. The outer wall of the shelter extends several inches on each side wider than the footprint to allow ventilation through the mesh but yet keep you dry in case of rain. So when you are sitting up, for example, you have plenty of room to stretch and change clothes. I also have a Hilleberg Akto, which is really long, but very, very stuffy. When I set them both up and got into the Contrail, I almost thought I was in a two person tent. An illusion, but there is a lot of unexpected room.
The Contrail is a bit finicky to get set up right but has worked really well for me so far. I should note that the Rainbow is even a little longer with more headroom throughout (although about the same at the apex of the Contrail).
I should also note that the Contrail does have some limitations compared to bomber shelters but then also has some advantages. Pick and choose - the perfect shelter does not exist.
The alternative is to cut off several inches from your shins and then re-attach your feet.:eek:
This discussion has nothing to do with UL - instead it has to do with clarifying some specifications for Slow. It has nothing to do with anyone insinuating that Slow does not know how to use his gear. Obviously he has some interest in the TT products.
Funny as far as UL...i got over 600 night in FL,and all gear in your pockets ..NO PACK for 5 days at a time.BIG DEAL.
F.G. I would love to give H.S. my $.:)
GitRdone
03-16-2009, 21:58
Slow, my 6'6" Caribou works fine in my Contrail...no problems at all. :)
I'm 6'3" using a WM Long bag in a Contrail and have plenty of room. Not lots of room but bought the Contrail for the light weight and has turned out to be a great solo shelter for me. I am toss and turn sleeper and don't seem to have any difficulties with this length of tent. However, got to admit the Scarp looks interesting and as I get older I'm thinking a side entry tent would be easier to enter and exit.
So we have a short guy recommending a tent for tall people, and a tall guy saying it's not big enough ... and they're arguring. What am I missing here?Maybe a 110# guy recommending a 3/4 half-length sleeping pad for a 260# guy? :D
I'm 6'3" using a WM Long bag in a Contrail and have plenty of room. Not lots of room but bought the Contrail for the light weight and has turned out to be a great solo shelter for me. I am toss and turn sleeper and don't seem to have any difficulties with this length of tent. However, got to admit the Scarp looks interesting and as I get older I'm thinking a side entry tent would be easier to enter and exit.
Plenty....and NOT Lot's dont add up.:)
Camping Dave
03-17-2009, 08:29
How tall are you exactly? I'm 5'11" and 190#. I figure I'm right at the design point for lots of 1-person gear, and lots of it feels a little tight. Have you tried F.G.'s suggestion of removing your shins? Kind of like Hank Hill's dad in King of the Hill maybe.
How tall are you exactly? I'm 5'11" and 190#. I figure I'm right at the design point for lots of 1-person gear, and lots of it feels a little tight. Have you tried F.G.'s suggestion of removing your shins? Kind of like Hank Hill's dad in King of the Hill maybe.
6'4'' and i like room...not side to side so much.When you belly sleep,and your your elbow is 5'' past your head ....Well 84'' dont cut it.
6'4'' and i like room...not side to side so much.When you belly sleep,and your your elbow is 5'' past your head ....Well 84'' dont cut it.
I agree Slow,I have the same problem. I go solo but use 2 man tents,most are fine width wise,but usually lack in length.
It's high time somebody jumped in and set you straight Slow. The problem is not the tent. The problem is you. You obviously don't know how to use your gear. Too light too fast, inexperience, needs training, needs a heavy gear crutch, I recommend a bivy and a poncho, trail runners take less room than boots, try sandals, you don't a big vestibule for a tealight stove, etc. etc. etc. , You're carrying an extra 2oz just to have a big comfortable tent. WHAT ?! Anathema heathen!
And UL is NOT a religion for me.
Ooops, sorry, got carried away :D
Just seen this...and you may?...watch to much T.V.So you may want to go lite on that so you can go hiking some time?
It's high time somebody jumped in and set you straight Slow. The problem is not the tent. The problem is you. You obviously don't know how to use your gear. Too light too fast, inexperience, needs training, needs a heavy gear crutch, I recommend a bivy and a poncho, trail runners take less room than boots, try sandals, you don't a big vestibule for a tealight stove, etc. etc. etc. , You're carrying an extra 2oz just to have a big comfortable tent. WHAT ?! Anathema heathen!
And UL is NOT a religion for me.
Ooops, sorry, got carried away :D
Take your meds man.:D I hope your post was an attempt at humor,if not...:rolleyes:
I agree Slow,I have the same problem. I go solo but use 2 man tents,most are fine width wise,but usually lack in length.
Boy if i was 5'8'' and could sleep on my back.M.C. the DUO is a nice setup for folks like us.:)
This is another way to set up the Scarp. Chris Townsend has had 2 feet of snow on his during his winter tests and that was with the poles outside, having the poles inside increases snow loading and wind resistance. A bonus for some is that you gain a bit of of headroom , 40" in this version.
You can also just use the trekking poles to keep the hoop pole up.
For those who care, you can also have the inner up by it self freestanding.
Franco
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Scarp%201/Scarp-Domo-1.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Scarp%201/Scarp-trek-poles.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Scarp%201/Scarp-Bugshelter.jpg