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Phoenixdadeadhead
05-04-2009, 11:42
I am building a new stand for my alcohol stove to meet my specific wants. It is time to put it together and I have 2 choices I can think of
A. silver solder it together
B. JB weld it together
I worry that solder might melt from the heat of the modified alcohol stove, and I worry JB weld might not be strong enough.
Which would be a better choice and why?

medicjimr
05-04-2009, 13:27
Jb weld would be what I would try.

JaxHiker
05-04-2009, 13:28
Why do you want to make it permanent? It seems smarter imho to make it where it breaks down for easier packing.

Dances with Mice
05-04-2009, 13:44
I am building a new stand for my alcohol stove to meet my specific wants. It is time to put it together and I have 2 choices I can think of
A. silver solder it together
B. JB weld it together
I worry that solder might melt from the heat of the modified alcohol stove, and I worry JB weld might not be strong enough.
Which would be a better choice and why?There's an engineering solution, a chemical solution, and a chemical engineer's solution.

The first two involve looking through references to find heats of combustion, calculating maximum expected temperatures, heat flows, and material characteristics such as melting temperatures and heat capacities.

The Chem E would say that JB Weld is quick and cheap so try it first.

Phoenixdadeadhead
05-04-2009, 14:05
Why do you want to make it permanent? It seems smarter imho to make it where it breaks down for easier packing.
I chose the JB. As for being able to break down, a it will be able to break down so that it fits inside of m cook set. The pot stand is solid but the screen is removable to make for easy breakdown. I will have to take some pics tomorrow when the weld has hardened enough. I have to build it in stages so curently it is in 12 pieces, but the hardest parts are curing now.

Seeker
05-04-2009, 19:06
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=33397&c=721&userid=6230

here's the simplest pot stand i ever found... just 1/2" hardward cloth. rolls up inside my pot.

Phoenixdadeadhead
05-04-2009, 20:17
That fence material would be great for part of my build, too bad it is so late or I would head to lowes. Oh well guess I will have to hit lowes in the morning lol

JaxHiker
05-06-2009, 08:53
Dang. 12 pieces? I can't wait to see this thing. :)

Mine is three. I also made one out of the hardware cloth but gave it to another WBer. Guess I need to make another one.

Phoenixdadeadhead
05-06-2009, 08:55
I scrapped the pot stand I was making in favor of another. I put pics up on another post

Wags
05-06-2009, 22:46
if jb weld comes in direct contact w/ the flame it will give off noxious odors, harden up and crumble off

Phoenixdadeadhead
05-06-2009, 23:28
really? Even the black? I knew the Blue would but as far as I knew the black was totally fireproof. I actually patched a small hole on my exhaust on my 6.5 turbo diesel. SO far it has held up for close to 2 years.

yaduck9
05-07-2009, 00:22
That fence material would be great for part of my build, too bad it is so late or I would head to lowes. Oh well guess I will have to hit lowes in the morning lol


Galvanized hardware cloth when heated will create a cloud of zinc, which is toxic. Break in the hardware cloth by putting into an outdoor fire to burn the zinc off well away from anyone before using it as a pot stand.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:BR8vj7CcXzcJ:www.aws.org/w/a/technical/facts/FACT-25.PDF+zinc+fever&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Wags
05-08-2009, 16:05
maybe we're talking about different jb welds. i dunno. the one i used was 2 parts that i had to mix together. one container was black one was red

Skidsteer
05-08-2009, 17:52
really? Even the black? I knew the Blue would but as far as I knew the black was totally fireproof. I actually patched a small hole on my exhaust on my 6.5 turbo diesel. SO far it has held up for close to 2 years.

Yes. It absolutely will fail eventually if exposed to flame. It can take an astonishing high heat for a epoxy(higher than their claimed rating, IMO), but direct flame plays hell with it.

Wags
05-09-2009, 00:30
sometimes i wish i could just have skidsteer along with me to cook out of elite homemade stoves and pots and cups and things