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Phoenixdadeadhead 05-04-2009, 11:42 I am building a new stand for my alcohol stove to meet my specific wants. It is time to put it together and I have 2 choices I can think of
A. silver solder it together
B. JB weld it together
I worry that solder might melt from the heat of the modified alcohol stove, and I worry JB weld might not be strong enough.
Which would be a better choice and why?
medicjimr 05-04-2009, 13:27 Jb weld would be what I would try.
JaxHiker 05-04-2009, 13:28 Why do you want to make it permanent? It seems smarter imho to make it where it breaks down for easier packing.
Dances with Mice 05-04-2009, 13:44 I am building a new stand for my alcohol stove to meet my specific wants. It is time to put it together and I have 2 choices I can think of
A. silver solder it together
B. JB weld it together
I worry that solder might melt from the heat of the modified alcohol stove, and I worry JB weld might not be strong enough.
Which would be a better choice and why?There's an engineering solution, a chemical solution, and a chemical engineer's solution.
The first two involve looking through references to find heats of combustion, calculating maximum expected temperatures, heat flows, and material characteristics such as melting temperatures and heat capacities.
The Chem E would say that JB Weld is quick and cheap so try it first.
Phoenixdadeadhead 05-04-2009, 14:05 Why do you want to make it permanent? It seems smarter imho to make it where it breaks down for easier packing.
I chose the JB. As for being able to break down, a it will be able to break down so that it fits inside of m cook set. The pot stand is solid but the screen is removable to make for easy breakdown. I will have to take some pics tomorrow when the weld has hardened enough. I have to build it in stages so curently it is in 12 pieces, but the hardest parts are curing now.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=33397&c=721&userid=6230
here's the simplest pot stand i ever found... just 1/2" hardward cloth. rolls up inside my pot.
Phoenixdadeadhead 05-04-2009, 20:17 That fence material would be great for part of my build, too bad it is so late or I would head to lowes. Oh well guess I will have to hit lowes in the morning lol
JaxHiker 05-06-2009, 08:53 Dang. 12 pieces? I can't wait to see this thing. :)
Mine is three. I also made one out of the hardware cloth but gave it to another WBer. Guess I need to make another one.
Phoenixdadeadhead 05-06-2009, 08:55 I scrapped the pot stand I was making in favor of another. I put pics up on another post
if jb weld comes in direct contact w/ the flame it will give off noxious odors, harden up and crumble off
Phoenixdadeadhead 05-06-2009, 23:28 really? Even the black? I knew the Blue would but as far as I knew the black was totally fireproof. I actually patched a small hole on my exhaust on my 6.5 turbo diesel. SO far it has held up for close to 2 years.
That fence material would be great for part of my build, too bad it is so late or I would head to lowes. Oh well guess I will have to hit lowes in the morning lol
Galvanized hardware cloth when heated will create a cloud of zinc, which is toxic. Break in the hardware cloth by putting into an outdoor fire to burn the zinc off well away from anyone before using it as a pot stand.
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:BR8vj7CcXzcJ:www.aws.org/w/a/technical/facts/FACT-25.PDF+zinc+fever&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
maybe we're talking about different jb welds. i dunno. the one i used was 2 parts that i had to mix together. one container was black one was red
Skidsteer 05-08-2009, 17:52 really? Even the black? I knew the Blue would but as far as I knew the black was totally fireproof. I actually patched a small hole on my exhaust on my 6.5 turbo diesel. SO far it has held up for close to 2 years.
Yes. It absolutely will fail eventually if exposed to flame. It can take an astonishing high heat for a epoxy(higher than their claimed rating, IMO), but direct flame plays hell with it.
sometimes i wish i could just have skidsteer along with me to cook out of elite homemade stoves and pots and cups and things
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