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WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 00:27
I just watched WJHL (tricities.com) news at 11 and they said two children:eek:, ages 4 & 6 I think it was, was seperated from their parents today and reported missing from Roan Mountain. As of now, nothing online shown. Geeze. Said it's going to be in the 40's tonight.:(
Hope they all return home soon!
WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 00:32
By Ted Overbay (joverbay@wjhl.com)
Photojournalist / WJHL
Published: June 24, 2009
Two Kingsport children on a hike with their family Wednesday afternoon have gone missing.
The children, 6 year old Alex Suddeath and his sister 4 year old Heidi Suddeath, disappeared in the Carver’s Gap area of the Pisgah National Forest. The children were last seen by their parents near the old Cloudland Hotel Site. The family arrived at the park around 1:30 P.M. and the kids vanished about thirty minutes later.
The Mitchell County Sheriff’s office is leading the search efforts with the aid of the U.S. Forestry Service, North Carolina State Troopers, Carter County Search and Rescue and several area volunteer fire departments.
Search crews would remain throughout the night.
For a full video version of this story click on the link above.
http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/two_kingsport_children_missing_in_the_pisgah_natio nal_forest/26524/
This is true. Our search and rescue members are there as well as Carter County rescue team and praying they are found asap.
I had to work tonight but will be there tomorrow soon as possible.
Will try to update here if any breaking news develops. Not a good place to be lost at that age, I can just imagine how scared they must be right now. It is chilly but at least the weather is fair considering what it could be there.
WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 00:40
This is true. Our search and rescue members are there as well as Carter County rescue team and praying they are found asap.
I had to work tonight but will be there tomorrow soon as possible.
Will try to update here if any breaking news develops. Not a good place to be lost at that age, I can just imagine how scared they must be right now. It is chilly but at least the weather is fair considering what it could be there.
Good luck. At least they have a lot of people helping. I just tucked my buggers in and thank God that they are safe and hope tonight they hear them and bring them home too.
MedicineMan
06-25-2009, 00:47
in several of the survival type books it says that kids in that age group actually do quite well at surviving...and at that altitude the chances of running into a lion or bear this time of year are slim to none
I hope they're still in the area. The news piece said they were near a parking area. I'm praying they'll be ok.
Tennessee Viking
06-25-2009, 00:51
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Unaka Rescue and Forest Service should be in full force right now. I guess they have someone camping up there if they show up.
There are a couple small hiding places all around there. The Bluff and Garden trails, AT, shelter...I just hope they found their way to the rest rooms or the Shelter for the night.
If they went down the mountain, that has to scary for them.
MedicineMan
06-25-2009, 00:56
Well I hadn't thought of abduction-I thought they were truly lost. If lost they will survive and it will be just a matter of time before they are found....an abduction a wholly different matter.
WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 00:58
Yeah, I heard about the parking area too... God, I hope no one took them. Surely they are checking into that possibility.
I did think of abduction as well, there are lots of sick pups out there, so is a possibility but lets hope not. I can't imagine taking my eyes off my kids at that age long enuff for em to get lost or taken but knowing that area and mountains like I do, I know you can be very close to someone and scream and no one will hear you.
Tennessee Viking
06-25-2009, 09:24
By The Continuous News Desk (news@tricities.com)
Published: June 25, 2009
Update at 7:22 a.m.:
The U.S. Forest Service has scheduled a news conference at noon today to release more information about the missing Suddeath children.
News Channel 11 Connects will have coverage with updates here on TriCities.Com.
Update at 6 a.m.:
The North Carolina Department of Crime Control and Public Safety has issued an Amber Alert for 6 year old Alex Suddeath and his sister 4 year old Heidi Suddeath from Kingsport, Tennessee. They disappeared in the Carver痴 Gap / Roan Mountain area of the Pisgah National Forest. The children were last seen by their parents near the old Cloudland Hotel Site. The family arrived at the park around 1:30 P.M. and the kids vanished about thirty minutes later.
Here痴 a link to on-line Amber Alert: http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/Index2.cfm?a=000003,000005,000081,001628 (http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/Index2.cfm?a=000003,000005,000081,001628)
This is a developing story. Look for updates here on TriCities.Com and on NewsChannel 11 Connects.
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Here痴 the first report filed by 11 Connects digital journalst Ted Overbay.
Roan Mountain, TN - Two Kingsport children on a hike with their family Wednesday afternoon have gone missing.
The children, 6 year old Alex Suddeath and his sister 4 year old Heidi Suddeath, disappeared in the Carver痴 Gap area of the Pisgah National Forest. The children were last seen by their parents near the old Cloudland Hotel Site. The family arrived at the park around 1:30 P.M. and the kids vanished about thirty minutes later.
The Mitchell County Sheriff痴 office is leading the search efforts with the aid of the U.S. Forestry Service, North Carolina State Troopers, Carter County Search and Rescue and several area volunteer fire departments.
Search crews would remain throughout the night.
For a full video version of this story click on the link above.
Did they put out an Amber Alert of some kind in case it was an abduction?
I hope it's just a case of lost kids and not an abduction. If they are lost, hopefully they'll be found safe soon.
WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 09:42
An Amber Alert has been issued for the two children.
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Posted: Thursday, 25 June 2009 6:45AM
Missing Children in Mitchell Co., NC
Tarah Taylor Reporting
ttaylor@wcyb.com (ttaylor@wcyb.com)
Authorities are searching for two children that went missing from Roan Mountain State Park yesterday. Mitchell County, North Carolina authorities sent out an Amber Alert for 6-year-old Alexander Lee Suddeath and 4-year-old Heidi Elizabeth Suddeath. Alexander is 4' 7", 55 pounds with sandy hair and brown eyes. He has a scar on his right eyebrow. He was wearing a yellow Transformer t-shirt and navy blue shorts. Heidi is 3'3", 38 pounds with a dimple on her right cheek and a scar on her elbow. She had on a pink skirt and purple shirt.
waywardfool
06-25-2009, 12:10
Probably/hopefully just bad reporting, but WRAL refers to it as an abduction:
If you have any information about this abduction, call the Mitchell County Sheriff`s Office immediately at 828-688-3982, or call 911 or *HP.
Last par: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5431816/ (as of 9:58 article update)
Hopefully, a lazy reporter just boilerplated an another amber alert. I hope they're still on the mountain.
waywardfool
06-25-2009, 12:16
Probably/hopefully just bad reporting, but WRAL refers to it as an abduction:
Welp, the NC Dept. of Crime Control that issued the amber alert is calling it an abduction, too:
http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/imgs/ALE/NCAMBERAlertStillLogo.gifAMBER Alert News Release
THIS IS A NORTH CAROLINA AMBER ALERT FOR
A CHILD ABDUCTION
(http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/AMBERALERT/Pictures/39/Alex%20Suddeath.jpg)
RALEIGH 1:24 AM -- The Mitchell County Sheriff`s Office is searching for 2 missing children: Alexander Lee Suddeath and Heidi Elizabeth Suddeath.
Alexander Lee Suddeath is a 6-year-old White male, approximately 4 feet 7 inches tall, weighing 55 pounds. He has sandy brown hair, and brown eyes. Yellow t-shirt and navy blue shorts wearing croc shoes He has a scar on the right eyebrow.
Heidi Elizabeth Suddeath is a 4-year-old White female, approximately 3 feet 3 inches tall, weighing 38 pounds. She has light brown hair, and brown eyes. Pink skirt and a purple shirt and crocs. Scab on her right elbow.
Last seen on Roan Mountain in Mitchell County. Parents lost sight of the children while returning to a public parking lot on the mountain.
If you have any information regarding this abduction, call the Mitchell County Sheriff`s Office immediately at (828) 688-3982, or call 911 or *HP.
Tennessee Viking
06-25-2009, 13:32
Update at 12:38 p.m. : According to Rep. Tony Shipley the two missing Kingsport children have been found. Alex and and Heidi apparently spent all night in the woods, but have now been found safely. More details as they become available.
Tennessee Viking
06-25-2009, 13:46
UPDATE: Alexander Lee Suddeath and Heidi Elizabeth Suddeath have been found. The kids spent all night in the woods. But they are now with their parents.
They were just found! Safe, one mile away, report came in just after the report that Farrah Fawcett had passed.
TV you beat me to it, you must have been glued to the TV also.
WhiteBearDog
06-25-2009, 14:02
I saw it on Headline News... so glad they were found safe!!! GEEZEEE... You just can't take your eyes off them for A SECOND!
Tennessee Viking
06-25-2009, 14:13
TV you beat me to it, you must have been glued to the TV also.1. I work for the NC State Bureau of Investigation now. So I am always checking NC news feeds.
2. Roan is part of my club's maintenance section.
3. I am heading up to Roan next week to work with Konnarock.
I just wondering how in the world can 2 kids get lost on Roan for nearly 24 hours since it has so much traffic. I want that camping spot. I am just glad that it was simply 2 kids getting lost instead of something scarier.
I was very relieved to hear they have been found today. Prayers have been answered. Kudo`s to the search team. I am on my way there now for some better Rhodo pics now that the gate should be opened.
1. I work for the NC State Bureau of Investigation now. So I am always checking NC news feeds.
2. Roan is part of my club's maintenance section.
3. I am heading up to Roan next week to work with Konnarock.
I just wondering how in the world can 2 kids get lost on Roan for nearly 24 hours since it has so much traffic. I want that camping spot. I am just glad that it was simply 2 kids getting lost instead of something scarier.
Yeah I knew you were involved with the club, I wonder exactly where they were found also. I assumed somewhere along the AT. I hope they made it to Roan High, but it would be one of the first places I would look. But as long as they were found safe, that is all that matters.:banana
I was very relieved to hear they have been found today. Prayers have been answered. Kudo`s to the search team. I am on my way there now for some better Rhodo pics now that the gate should be opened.
I wanted to get up there sometime this week also, but it doesn't seem that I will make it this season. Please post your pics Rat.
Blissful
06-25-2009, 16:19
Wow thank you God!
Lone Wolf
06-25-2009, 18:33
http://wcyb.com/Missing-Children-Found/4670622
A good thing would be put the beeper on the kids it transmits a signal backto a receiver you carry about the size of a cell phone, cant recall the name of it right now, has ad on tv, just for keeping track of kids:-?
then you follow it like a gps:-?
Lone Wolf
06-25-2009, 22:29
A good thing would be put the beeper on the kids it transmits a signal backto a receiver you carry about the size of a cell phone, cant recall the name of it right now, has ad on tv, just for keeping track of kids:-?
good thing thing would be for the friggin parents to pay attention to where their children are at all times
I have to agree with you there
good thing thing would be for the friggin parents to pay attention to where their children are at all times
Totally agree.
MedicineMan
06-25-2009, 22:53
and do a little interview....wouldn't surprise me if it was big fun for them.
I was up there this afternoon right after they were found, had to wait quite awhile for them to remove all the mission control centers and rescue equipment. Kids were emotional, were lil bruised , dehydrated and very hungry and cold, but overall did very well considering the rough terrain, the cold temps with nothing but shorts and t shirts. They found the boys crocs where he left them on the trail which led them in the right direction, started yelling and miraculously he yelled back and they follwed sound right to them. They were one mile down from tip top on the AT where they spent a no doubt long, cold and scary night. They are doing fine, they were eating nutter butters, oatmeal coookies an drinking gatorade (during the time the parents were not hugging them lol). Was a good ending to what could have been a tragedy. We spent the entire day all over the Roan until late evening taking pics so I will post them as soon as I can here. They should be awesome as the weather was incredible as was the ocean of pink Cataba`s that are still full bloom but just passing peak. Water gushing everywhere cold and cleanest anywhere as usual.
Seems the kids were getting slightly ahead of the parents while they were hiking and when they did that routine right at the top near old hotel site, parents got there and no sign of kids. I can imagine the panic and heart sinking fear of the worst.
HAIRNT !
Feral Bill
06-26-2009, 03:18
good thing thing would be for the friggin parents to pay attention to where their children are at all times
I'm guessing you don't have kids.
Tennessee Viking
06-26-2009, 09:45
So the kids climbed down toward Ash Gap. Thats what I thought.
modiyooch
06-26-2009, 12:35
I was there last Sunday afternoon and it was cold and windy. I had capri pants and a windjacket and wished I had a hat. According to the locals, 4 storms had passed the night before. Flowers were beautiful.
My guess is that the kids stayed on the trail when the got to the top, and didn't cut over to the hotel site.
It can happen. I tried to tell my kids to stop whenever there was a fork in the trail, and to periodically wait for us. I also would tell them bedtime stories about being lost on the trail. Whistles, emergency rain poncho, chocolate bars, warm shirt, and water were always part of the story.
Ox97GaMe
06-26-2009, 12:56
you would think that if the kids were on the AT, or the crocs were on the AT, it wouldnt have taken that long for SAR to actually find them. I mean reallly.... how long does it take for a searcher to hike from summit to Carvers gap or summit to Ashley Gap. I would have put 4 runners out, one at each spot and had them walk toward each other. Should have been a rescue in less than 4 hrs, not 24.
But, SAR isnt always the most efficient. When I hiked in 97, I came across a family that the mother had just got burned by a pot of boiling water while cooking dinner. We were about 1 mile from the RPH shelter. SAR decided to cut a clearing at the top of the mountain, cut a trail .25 miles to the campsite from the summit, carrry in battery powered flood lights (it was dark by then), and then carry the poor woman up the hill to the waiting helicopter. The whole ordeal took over 9 hrs. Could have carried her down to the parkway and loaded the helicopter there in less than 1 hr. The SAR crew was commenting afterwards that they were lucky to have gotten her to the helicopter so quickly as the woman was starting to go into shock. DAH !!!! I was in shock too just from watching the whole circus routine.
Lone Wolf
06-26-2009, 13:33
you would think that if the kids were on the AT, or the crocs were on the AT, it wouldnt have taken that long for SAR to actually find them. I mean reallly.... how long does it take for a searcher to hike from summit to Carvers gap or summit to Ashley Gap. I would have put 4 runners out, one at each spot and had them walk toward each other. Should have been a rescue in less than 4 hrs, not 24.
But, SAR isnt always the most efficient. When I hiked in 97, I came across a family that the mother had just got burned by a pot of boiling water while cooking dinner. We were about 1 mile from the RPH shelter. SAR decided to cut a clearing at the top of the mountain, cut a trail .25 miles to the campsite from the summit, carrry in battery powered flood lights (it was dark by then), and then carry the poor woman up the hill to the waiting helicopter. The whole ordeal took over 9 hrs. Could have carried her down to the parkway and loaded the helicopter there in less than 1 hr. The SAR crew was commenting afterwards that they were lucky to have gotten her to the helicopter so quickly as the woman was starting to go into shock. DAH !!!! I was in shock too just from watching the whole circus routine.
a lot of SAR folks aren't in the best physical shape.
OldStormcrow
06-26-2009, 16:22
The last time that I went out and volunteered on a search and rescue in this area I was amazed at these guys. They basically walked the same trail back and forth for three days without once stepping off of it. At night they would ride back and forth on their atv's to get coffee and burgers from the Red Cross, played with their radios and worked all night keeping their kerosene heaters running. I watched them do this for 4 days before they finally found the poor guy (deceased) about 40 yards off of the trail. In other areas of the country there are trained professionals to do these sorts of jobs, but around here they are pretty much a bunch of good ol' boy deer hunter volunteer firefighter types......hearts in the right place, but too fat and untrained to be of much real use.
StarLyte
06-26-2009, 16:49
I am so glad they were found !
WhiteBearDog
06-26-2009, 19:46
The last time that I went out and volunteered on a search and rescue in this area I was amazed at these guys. They basically walked the same trail back and forth for three days without once stepping off of it. At night they would ride back and forth on their atv's to get coffee and burgers from the Red Cross, played with their radios and worked all night keeping their kerosene heaters running. I watched them do this for 4 days before they finally found the poor guy (deceased) about 40 yards off of the trail. In other areas of the country there are trained professionals to do these sorts of jobs, but around here they are pretty much a bunch of good ol' boy deer hunter volunteer firefighter types......hearts in the right place, but too fat and untrained to be of much real use.
Thats sad...:(
What type of "proper" training does one need to be a part of sars?
I wanted to get up there sometime this week also, but it doesn't seem that I will make it this season. Please post your pics Rat.
OK, you asked for them. You can see the album here: Look for Trip Photos / Roan Mountain (RAT) : http://www.trailstealth.com/gallery/index.php?cat=3
It was way to bright Thursday for picture taking and I have a inexpensive lil digi cam but some of these are pretty decent. (Esp the butterfly ones)
Enjoy,
HAIRNT !
Tough story, great end result. Lost person behavior - kids were within a mile of point last seen, typical. As for the comments on SAR, I was a member of the GPSAR - Greater Philadelphia Search & Rescue Team, well run, well trained - some teams are better than others. With the right canine this would/could have ended faster BUT I for one and very glad that these volunteers exist. Thanks to all that assisted.
SawnieRobertson
06-27-2009, 17:34
As a rule of thumb, children can be counted on to hike UP. I wonder if that proved true this time. Whew! What a relief for the whole family, including the children.--Kinnickinic
OK, you asked for them. You can see the album here: Look for Trip Photos / Roan Mountain (RAT) : http://www.trailstealth.com/gallery/index.php?cat=3
It was way to bright Thursday for picture taking and I have a inexpensive lil digi cam but some of these are pretty decent. (Esp the butterfly ones)
Enjoy,
HAIRNT !
Thanks for the pics, btw is there a way to make those pics full screen?:banana
modiyooch
06-27-2009, 19:28
As a rule of thumb, children can be counted on to hike UP. I wonder if that proved true this time. Whew! What a relief for the whole family, including the children.--Kinnickinicdon't think so. the destination was the top at the parking lot.
Trillium
06-28-2009, 21:23
OK, you asked for them. You can see the album here: Look for Trip Photos / Roan Mountain (RAT) : http://www.trailstealth.com/gallery/index.php?cat=3
It was way to bright Thursday for picture taking and I have a inexpensive lil digi cam but some of these are pretty decent. (Esp the butterfly ones)
Enjoy,
HAIRNT !
those were just BEAUTIFUL! thanks for the link.d
also I am very glad that the children were found safe. I would have hated to be in their parents' shoes. my daughter took off when she was 8 in our neighborhood. she came back about an hour later and I was scared $hitle$$ during that time. you can teach them and teach them but you can't put a leash on them.
As a rule of thumb, children can be counted on to hike UP. I wonder if that proved true this time. Whew! What a relief for the whole family, including the children.--Kinnickinic
Nope, were on tip top, they went down (South) TN side one mile.
Thanks for the pics, btw is there a way to make those pics full screen?
If you click on the thumbnail they go to 800 X 600 as I usually dont put the larger ones in the gallery BUT if you want them larger let me know, I can always upload them to my server in full size (long as your connection is fast enough to download them) lol.
Thanks, glad you all enjoyed them, more coming soon. Also, we finished up all the weedwacking on my trail section Saturday so if ya want to hike somewhere with no briars or nettles come on over ;)
Hairnt !
Nope, were on tip top, they went down (South) TN side one mile.
If you click on the thumbnail they go to 800 X 600 as I usually dont put the larger ones in the gallery BUT if you want them larger let me know, I can always upload them to my server in full size (long as your connection is fast enough to download them) lol.
Thanks, glad you all enjoyed them, more coming soon. Also, we finished up all the weedwacking on my trail section Saturday so if ya want to hike somewhere with no briars or nettles come on over ;)
Hairnt !
I think it is fast enough, I have DSL lite with ATT. BTW where is that spring and where is that stealth trail to the cave. I gotta get back up there now soon.
Rat I found out how to make them bigger, but still would like to know about that spring and cave. I could spend a day up there exploring, as long as I don't get lost myself.
Rat after looking at that pic of the spring, I think it is the spring at Carver's Gap around the side of the pit toilet, right?
Hey Karo, glad ya got the pics enlarged. I have the original huge ones and many more than I posted if you want them.
The spring is the one at carvers Gap up from the pit toilet, correct.
The stealth trail and cave we found off the right side of the trail as you walk out to Roan high Bluff. Not far from the road on right will see short 'pee' trail and if you go to edge of the ridge there where that trail almost ends you will see to left and down some really nice rocks and the trail skirts the bottom of them out to the cave. Could spend all day playing there for sure.
I was hoping to do a hike from Carvers to Elk park this weekend with my son but having some issues figuring out logistics on where to leave a car (besides on 19E at trailhead as I have many times before) and how to get a ride to Carvers Gap so as not to have to go back up there when we get back. Always hard to find a wheel man when ya need one ! Not sure where that B&B is .3 from trailhead on 19E or which direction its in. I am looking for the phone number Wolf put somewhere on here now.
Maybe I`ll go somewhere else closer to home.
Any info is appreciated.
RAT
Lone Wolf
07-08-2009, 19:47
Hey Karo, glad ya got the pics enlarged. I have the original huge ones and many more than I posted if you want them.
The spring is the one at carvers Gap up from the pit toilet, correct.
The stealth trail and cave we found off the right side of the trail as you walk out to Roan high Bluff. Not far from the road on right will see short 'pee' trail and if you go to edge of the ridge there where that trail almost ends you will see to left and down some really nice rocks and the trail skirts the bottom of them out to the cave. Could spend all day playing there for sure.
I was hoping to do a hike from Carvers to Elk park this weekend with my son but having some issues figuring out logistics on where to leave a car (besides on 19E at trailhead as I have many times before) and how to get a ride to Carvers Gap so as not to have to go back up there when we get back. Always hard to find a wheel man when ya need one ! Not sure where that B&B is .3 from trailhead on 19E or which direction its in. I am looking for the phone number Wolf put somewhere on here now.
Maybe I`ll go somewhere else closer to home.
Any info is appreciated.
RAT
.3 west towards roan mtn. phone 866-772-9494