View Full Version : Is this website a joke?
NEGAhiker
10-02-2009, 16:40
http://pavetheappalachiantrail.org/
Surely this is a joke....pave the entire trail, allowing motor scooters, and snack and refreshment kiosks all along the trail....someone please tell me this isn't real:confused:
ShoelessWanderer
10-02-2009, 16:42
I am praying with every fiber of my being that it's a joke! WHY on earth would ANYONE support that??? It's just wrong! We have enough roads (which is basically what paved trails are) already!
Wise Old Owl
10-02-2009, 16:43
Wow On first read I thought u were talking about WB - that would have been so wrong...
BlazeWalker
10-02-2009, 16:45
I think it's friggin ridiculous. I hope it's not real?
ShoelessWanderer
10-02-2009, 16:46
Wow On first read I thought u were talking about WB - that would have been so wrong...
I thought that, too, when I first saw the title.
NEGAhiker
10-02-2009, 16:49
Ok, after reading further it's obviously a joke or some kind of scam for money because one of the articles on this site said they started paving in March of 2007.
mrhughes1982
10-02-2009, 16:50
That is hilarious. It has to be a joke... 12 x 24 billboards along the trail and you can purchase trail markers to advertise. No way is this real. There's no contacts either to ask a ***? to.
mrhughes1982
10-02-2009, 16:52
what the fart is a bad word?
click the more information button on the bottom of the page and you get this:
If you haven’t guessed by now, this site is not real. There is no Pave the Appalachian Trail movement, funding, or any other poo like that. This site is just for fun, and is a play on how politicians, marketing people and the media twist salty-pretzel words to sound politically correct, when in fact, they are spewing complete bull crap.
While I know you may have been understandably upset at first, I want this website to get across a real message. Don’t let politicians and media use twisted language to get you thinking how THEY want you to think. It’s easy to sucker people these days. Hopefully, this will help increase your awareness of all the scams and shams that we all deal with-day in, day out.
If this website has upset you, I’m sorry. It’s no worse than Candid Camera, and people ate that stuff up, so all I can hope is that you’ll see the humor in this. Perhaps it will make you aware of just how much of a treasure we are blessed with in the Appalachian Trail. I’d like to give a special thank you to all the people that contribute their resources to the AT.
This is not a joke.
Due to the ADA act and less people wanting backcountry adventures, most of the AT will at least be graded for light vehicle use (if not really paved). Many officials feel that if the AT is supported by tax dollars AND is under the National Park jurisdiction, that the trail should be more accessible to the general public.
I've also heard that the Smokeys (being the most popular national park in the country) is going to be the pilot program where a person can rent a modified golf-cart like vehicles to go on the newly graded trail. Since the Smokeys does allow horses on the AT, ramping up th AT in the Smokies for golf-cart vehicles should not be difficult.
If this pilot program goes well, Shenandoah and National Recreation areas (DWG comes to mind) will probably be next (but that's a guess).
I do know that the designated wilderness areas will be off limits so as to preserve the wilderness experience in these areas.
From the site: "If you would like to help or voice your opinion, do not hesitate to contact us."
Except there is no link for a legitimate response route.
WalkingStick75
10-02-2009, 17:27
Who Is registered to:
Registrant Name:Jim Jamesson
Registrant Organization:Groovy Web Design
Registrant Street1:2 White Pine Ct
WB Member?
Ladytrekker
10-02-2009, 17:30
http://pavetheappalachiantrail.org/
Surely this is a joke....pave the entire trail, allowing motor scooters, and snack and refreshment kiosks all along the trail....someone please tell me this isn't real:confused:
Somebody took way to much of somthing. If this gets any weight behind it which I think it will not we then need to start a letter writing campaign to all the Senators, etc of the districts of the trail.
And if whatever reason it happened then we need to invest into jackhammers.
this is protected natural forest and I do not see it happeing.
skinewmexico
10-02-2009, 20:08
Not much of a sense of humor on here, is there?
Rain Man
10-02-2009, 20:11
They persuaded me once I saw the "free AT WiFi"!!!! LOL
Rain:sunMan
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sheepdog
10-02-2009, 20:12
So I can't get rollerblades for my next hike??
shucks
Dances with Mice
10-02-2009, 20:16
click the more information button on the bottom of the page and you get this:
If you haven’t guessed by now, this site is not real. ....You mean there's no restaurant on the Blood Mtn summit and no water fountains every quarter mile after Slaughter? Damn!
Wow On first read I thought u were talking about WB - that would have been so wrong...
O! S%&^%T that will get you puter smack lol:D
MintakaCat
10-02-2009, 20:39
Wow, that is too cool! I wonder if after they pave it they will paint lines down it?
Wait....does this mean I can do a thru on an ATV????:-?
I think, of all people, Lone Wolf advocates paving the AT.
Dances with Mice
10-02-2009, 21:16
I think, of all people, Lone Wolf advocates paving the AT.I've been reading Wolf for years
He does love the Trail
Your post could not be more wrong.
OF course it's real. And stop calling me Shirley. :banana
superman
10-02-2009, 22:12
There are already paved sections...there will be more.
Springer Mountain Visitors Center & Restaurant is our flagship, 5-star establishment perched at the peak of Springer Mountain, offering visitors to dine and relax in the luxurious mountains of Northern Georgia.
Gosh, I hiked all of the way to the top of Springer Mountain and didn't even see the Restaurant up there. I just saw some dumb old plaque.
I've been reading Wolf for years
He does love the Trail
Your post could not be more wrong.
Correction:
nope. this is serious as a heart attack. i would love to see the AT paved and graded
access for all
yes and them old gals on the Hovarounds
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47972&page=2
Correction:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47972&page=2
It's called sarcasm and irony.
Lone Wolf wrote "Pave the trail!" in plenty of trail registers (the only forum available in 1999) when hikers whined that a trail section was too "rough" or too "poorly maintained".
Hell, the website creator probably got his inspiratation from Lone Wolf.
OutdoorsMan
10-03-2009, 01:29
I am sure that this is no the only place but the privy at Thomas Knob Shelter has a handicapped ramp. the thing is; how does a person in a wheelchair get up Mount Rogers and how does one navigate a wheelchair over the rocky path to the privy?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uNV-BS4Zdb4/SrDZfrXbh4I/AAAAAAAADjA/ERcEjDX_y-E/s400/Galehead+new+hut.jpg
Galehead Hut too has a wheelchair ramp on the left side.
Graywolf
10-03-2009, 02:21
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uNV-BS4Zdb4/SrDZfrXbh4I/AAAAAAAADjA/ERcEjDX_y-E/s400/Galehead+new+hut.jpg
Galehead Hut too has a wheelchair ramp on the left side.
I think I saw a guy in a Mountain Wheelchair the other day!!!:banana
Sorry Mags, it's not real.
And the liberal did a backflip.....without ever knowing that conservatives are the only real.........conservatives.
JoshStover
10-03-2009, 04:18
Are you serious about Golf Carts in the Smokies? I am heading down there in a week for 10 days. I will have to find out more while Im down there. I sure hope they arent that stupid...
And the liberal did a backflip.....without ever knowing that conservatives are the only real.........conservatives.
Yes, I'm just trying to be a pain in the posterior.
superman
10-03-2009, 11:34
Yes, I'm just trying to be a pain in the posterior.
Good job.:D
Yes, I'm just trying to be a pain in the posterior.
Well, Reid... If you changed the "e" in your name to an "o" you would be a much more convincing "pain in the posterior." :D
john gault
10-03-2009, 11:44
This is not a joke.
Due to the ADA act and less people wanting backcountry adventures, most of the AT will at least be graded for light vehicle use (if not really paved). Many officials feel that if the AT is supported by tax dollars AND is under the National Park jurisdiction, that the trail should be more accessible to the general public.
I've also heard that the Smokeys (being the most popular national park in the country) is going to be the pilot program where a person can rent a modified golf-cart like vehicles to go on the newly graded trail. Since the Smokeys does allow horses on the AT, ramping up th AT in the Smokies for golf-cart vehicles should not be difficult.
If this pilot program goes well, Shenandoah and National Recreation areas (DWG comes to mind) will probably be next (but that's a guess).
I do know that the designated wilderness areas will be off limits so as to preserve the wilderness experience in these areas.
I agree with mags in the above post. Yes the website may be less than serious, but changing the trail system is not. Not sayin' it'll be paved from Ga - Me, but I believe it's in for some big changes.
I'd donate if they'd put a zip line through the Whites..........
YoungMoose
10-03-2009, 13:31
I think THIS WEBSITE is fake. if you click on how to contact and how to donate and how to buy stuff from there the links dont work. In a web design class i took in school if half of the links dont work its most likely fake. However i bet that there is actually a legit website out there thats trying to get it paved
YoungMoose
10-03-2009, 13:33
lol i cant believe we havent found this yet. LMFAO look at this link http://pavetheappalachiantrail.org/more-info/
I am sure that this is no the only place but the privy at Thomas Knob Shelter has a handicapped ramp. the thing is; how does a person in a wheelchair get up Mount Rogers and how does one navigate a wheelchair over the rocky path to the privy?
ADA
I am an architect and deal with handicap codes all the time. The ADA act when it was created was retroactive to every public building in USA except churches.
Those buildings are public buildings, so according the the ADA should be HC accessable which they partly are by adding the ramp.
The sticky part is access to the building site from the public right of way. Most of the time That means you must provide an accessable route from a public sidewalk, parking lot, etc to the building and the ramp.
To me it looks like a CYA move by the powers that be.
There is more to ADA than just people in wheelchairs though.
Obesity is also considered a disability among quite a few others.
There was a case a few years ago, where a guy was too fat to climb into his bulldozer at work. Think he weighed something like 400#. His boss fired him, he sued under the ADA and his boss was forced to hire him back and build a ramp for his bulldozer.
I guess that the ramp at the top of Mount Rogers makes sense in that respect, but I would imagine by the time he got there if at all, he might be skinny enough to walk up the steps.
:datzThe website is a joke, people! :datz
modiyooch
10-03-2009, 15:29
a lot a creativity went into this site.
mrhughes1982
10-03-2009, 22:52
I think a full length trolley system would be nice with.
Wise Old Owl
10-03-2009, 23:28
I think a full length trolley system would be nice with.
It would need a cog and some interesting jet propulsion:D
GrubbyJohn
10-04-2009, 12:32
they need those conveyor belt that they have in airports just stand there and ride along.......
Jonnycat
10-04-2009, 13:53
I'm sure it's legit.
Graywolf
10-04-2009, 14:24
People, People, People, It is a fake site, Hit the "More Information" button at the bottom of the screen and read the article!!!! I think this was mentioned before.....
But in fact some one has already tried to pave the Trail. I have not Thru hiked yet but I am well aware of the paving going on in Pennsyvania. But who ever laid down the paving stones must have been drunk.
Sorry Mags, it's not real.
....is your leg feeling kinda long from all the pulling done on it?
EDIT: I think a LOT OF PEOPLE have long legs right now from all the pulling done on it.
It's no joke in Glacier National Park, Montana or Yellowstone National Park, WY or Yosemite National Park, CA, for that matter.
I am handicapped, but I got up out of the hospital bed, the wheelchair, and back on my feet at high personal cost. ER visits, heart failure... but I did it.
I have seen "blacktop" on trails in these national parks.
I suspect more and more will have it.
In Montana, hunters who are handicapped can shoot from their car/truck and atv's were being discussed last time I checked. It has been awhile since I last checked.
That provision has been greatly abused.
I haven't seen any wheelchair bound hunters, but I have seen "old-guys" shooting "game" from their vehicle.
It is against the law, here, for anyone to shoot "game" from the road.
Back on-topic, I would not assume people who want to "help" the handicapped this way are stupid. It is my experience, there is quite a different agenda behind that kind of "morality" for the "masses".
Rather, think it is to deliberately make good laws ridiculous, by modifying the law just enough so absolutely no one enjoys the "protection of the law".
It is called "progressive" liberal politics.
I ought to know.
I have been an advocate, first, of programs for the elderly, and, second, for the disabled. I have done that since I put CAPH-California Association for the Handicapped together with Congressman Norm Dicks.
That goes back quite a number of years.
I have also been victimized by the "progressive" politics, of abject hypocrites (politician-lawyers, so not "statesmen") "moralizing" about what is "good".
There are cynical hateful people, who despise the beauty of a natural envireonment where people can see and experience the unspoiled world as originally created.
In oil, the oil-barons calling themselves the "seven sisters" joke about "cherry-picking". Their "interests" is only in having "government subsidies" so they have no expenses, and, in "cherry-picking" "virgin-land" and, well, your innocence.
If you want to have natural places, you have to take a stand: expose their hatred of your happiness.
Whiners are not enough.
In the example of oil-fields, 80% of the existing oil fields oil is left in the ground because the gas that pressurizes the oil field is burned-off. These oil-fields can be re-pressurized. The technology is there.
The oil-barons, however, do not want to do that. They would rather destroy a "virgin-land".
That is just one example.
Look at timber-interests, the 99-year "lease" on our Northwest forests renewed with Japan. The U.S. Forest Service hands out "leases" and "permits" to graze public-owned land and to "licensed" pack-horse outfits to camp in one campsite, over and over, destroying it.
People have minimum impact on the "backcountry" but, in many cases, we have to get a one-time use permit.
I think these "scammers" in government, just don't want anyone not involved to see the decimation of our natural resourcs.
The national parks, the public land and, in particular, the AT Appalachian Trail has been fought for, over and over.
That's how it works.
If you want the AT, you have to put down the aggressors.
I think that website exists to raise your awareness.
David@whiteblaze
10-21-2009, 20:17
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I read just about the whole website, and I'm almost certain that this is a scam to get lazy advertizers. If they want to be advertised, just sponser the nations newest hoverround accesible trail!!! if this goes through, i m gonna go to a desert island somewhere with about 3 million dollars worth of beef jerky and a water filter.
David@whiteblaze
10-21-2009, 20:48
http://jimjamesson.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimjamesson
http://www.facebook.com/jimjamesson
http://www.mountainx.com/member/3147/
http://apollocreedtravels.com/
http://groovyadventures.com/
well, he exists. I just dont know where (if) he dwells on whiteblaze.
We might have to redefine the term "Yellow Blazing"
They need to straighten and level that sucker out before they start paving it.
Whoever built that thing in the first place must have been in a hurry, like they had less than a week to do it all in.
If they straighten and level it, it wouldnt be as much fun for skateboarding.
David@whiteblaze
10-22-2009, 16:08
sure it would, all bridges sag eventually, so just hop on at the top of the mountain, cruise about 3/4 of the way to the next mtn, and ask a passing golf cart for a lift. hang on to him and ride to the top. rinse and repeat.