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That being, pack, sleeping bag, pad, shelter.
Rating 15dF.
I have a 32oz sleeping bag and my pack is 16 oz so that part is 3#.
Is it possible to hit a target weight of 3-4# for the rest of the gear, IE hammock, under pad/quilt, bug net and tarp ??
sure. easily
travel hammock 16oz,
sunshade reflective pad 10oz,
8x8 siltarp 10oz
total 36oz
Forgot to mention I am 6-3 and 235 for 15dF.
I have ripstop to build a hammock so 16 oz sounds right.
A sunshade reflective pad wont keep me warm to 15dF ?? Will it ??
Sounds good for the summer though.
Wont I need a prolite and a winged blue pad, or alternatively a bottom quilt ?? 15dF is chilly. I figure 1-1.5# min there alone unless its high grade down SUL.
Got it on the 8x8 sil tarp.
Probably will end up with a campmor 8x10 unless I make one - 13 oz
A enu bug net is 16 oz alone. If I build one I could probably do it lighter.
In the winter I would not need this, so maybe trade out for the heavier pad.
I am coming up with about 3.85# which sill puts me under 7# total.
The intent is a short test run section hike on the AT in December to work out the bugs.
Possible thru hike in 2010 or 2011, so I would probably just pack everything for that to start.
Yes you are correct. You will need additional ccf to get to 15. Pads are the lighter option for underinsulation. The sunshade is good to the 40's.
You might want to consider a garlington insulator (taco) system.
So the sunshade. I assume that is a car window sun shade like people are using for cozies ??
Interesting on the garlington insulator. I like it. Simple and cheap.
Personally I don't think you can get to sub 20 degree temps without an underquilt in addition to a good pad.
JoeHiker
10-06-2009, 17:38
Is this summer, fall, or winter. Right now I run this:
Hennessey Hammock Ultralight Backpacker Asym = 31 ounces
Jacks R Better Old Rag Mtn Quilt top (long model) and bottom = 52 ounces
Granite Gear Vapor Trail pack = 35 ounces
= 118 ounces or 7.3 pounds
In the summer I can get up to 2 pounds lighter, depending on quilt choice.
I never use a pad
dreamsoftrails
10-06-2009, 19:42
Personally I don't think you can get to sub 20 degree temps without an underquilt in addition to a good pad.
definitely a challenge. however, a prolite and a winged pad could do it, body coverage must be thorough and excessive.
however, then you are talking a lot of pad. OP, you will need either the speer segmented pad extender, or an underquilt, or both.
if you want your hammock set up to be light for 15*, you will need lots of dough to throw at those fancy JRB quilts, or speer quilts. aint no way around it.
you also got to think about wind coverage. a skimpy tarp aint gonna cut it. you will need something like the speer winter tarp, or god forbid spend 300 dollars on JRB's silnylon hammock palace.
cold weather hammock, light weight = $$$cash$$$
Geez, I just sold a short prolite when I bought a neoair.
GoLite Ultra 20 quilt 20 ounces
Hennessy Explorer & tarp 44 ounces
Super Shelter 13 ounces
ULA Conduit 21 ounces
1/4 inch pad 10 ounces
Tree Huggers 4 ounces
7 lbs.
dreamsoftrails
10-06-2009, 23:22
GoLite Ultra 20 quilt 20 ounces
Hennessy Explorer & tarp 44 ounces
Super Shelter 13 ounces
ULA Conduit 21 ounces
1/4 inch pad 10 ounces
Tree Huggers 4 ounces
7 lbs.
i pity the man stuck in that set up when it gets cold.
GoLite Ultra 20 quilt 20 ounces
Hennessy Explorer & tarp 44 ounces
Super Shelter 13 ounces
ULA Conduit 21 ounces
1/4 inch pad 10 ounces
Tree Huggers 4 ounces
7 lbs.
All you have under you a 1/4" pad ??
Bulldawg
10-06-2009, 23:35
I personally can't go much below about 45F to 50F without an underquilt. Depending on the wind.
take-a-knee
10-06-2009, 23:40
All you have under you a 1/4" pad ??
And a Hennessy Supershelter, should be good to 20 or so with a space blanket. Many over at hammockforums.net use them.
dreamsoftrails
10-06-2009, 23:50
And a Hennessy Supershelter, should be good to 20 or so with a space blanket. Many over at hammockforums.net use them.
to be fair, many over there also tried them and did not like them.
Got it. Basically the same as mentioned above.
Similar to a garlington insulator (taco) system.
Fiddleback
10-07-2009, 20:02
I never use a pad
And I never use a sleeping bag. I have a quilt but haven't used it in the hammock either.
My LuxuryLite pack, with its accessories, is 48oz.
Older, ¼" Oware pad is 7oz
Hennessy UL Backpacker Asym with accessories is 39oz
Total: 94oz = 5.88lbs
My home region's 'three-season' camping (May-October) mandates I carry cold weather clothing all the time. I get dual-use of that clothing by using it as the main component of my sleep system. It and the above stuff keeps me comfortable to the mid-20's and the sleeping bag stays at home.
During my last backyard experiment, I felt cold coming through the pad at 22°. But if I addded my blue foam sit pad to the above system the set-up would probably be good into the teens or lower.
FB
The supershelter has a pad as part of the insulation system. The 1/4 inch pad is extra insulation.
Raul Perez
01-03-2010, 10:40
Backpack:ULA CircuitSleep System:WB Blackbird 1.1OES Spinnul Deluxesleeping padWB YetiMarmot HydrogenStakes (6) - MSRGroundhog
Total weight = 111.7 ounces or 6.98lbs
Thats my 3 season set up. my winter set up is this:
Back Pack:REI Flash 65Sleep System:WB BlackbirdSuperfly w/DoorsJRB Mt Wash 4M. Hardwear Lyell bag -15*Stakes (all)Down Booties
Total weight = 216.6 ounces or 13.54lbs
I like a little more insulation in the winter time
HikerRanky
01-03-2010, 18:18
Warbonnet Blackbird Dbl 1.7 - 40oz
Speer Winter Tarp - 16oz
Speer Snugfit UQ - 28oz
Speer TopBlanket OQ - 18oz
Total - 102oz or 6.38lbs
I have had this system down to 10 degrees...
Randy
Cannibal
01-04-2010, 02:57
I've been well below 15F with this set-up:
Warbonnet Traveler w/straps; 20.5oz
Warbonnet Winter Yeti UQ; 19oz
Jacks R Better Rocky Mtn. Sniveler Topquilt; 28oz
Warbonnet SuperFly Winter Tarp; 25oz
92.5oz, or 5.78lbs.
This isn't even as light as I could go. I could switch out the webbing suspension for cord and tree huggers; that would save me a couple-few ounces. Then I could take my DIY winter topquilt and save another 3oz. I could certainly do with less tarp if I had too, so I'll save another 10oz by taking my MacCat Deluxe instead. If I really wanted to shave more ounces, I'd have Brain make me an Ultra Sized MacCat in Spinn; save another few ounces.
Now all the sudden, I've got a set-up that will take me into single digits that weighs less than 5lbs. I use my pack under my legs for insulation because the Yetis are torso length underquilts, so the legs are exposed. I do not carry any pads.
mak52580
01-06-2010, 02:45
Here's my usual 3-season setup
WBBB Dbl1.7 - 2lb
OES Maccat Deluxe SpinnUL w/ tensioners - 12oz.
GoLite Ultra 20 quilt - 20oz.
Te-Wa 3/4 UQ - 15oz.
Total - 4lb. 15oz.
Sometimes, if I know I'll be getting colder weather or am winter camping then I'll switch out the Golite Ultra with a Marmot Helium Long at 32oz. and the Te-wa with a JRB Hudson River UQ at 22oz. If it gets REALLY cold, I'll add a Gossamer Gear ThinLight pad at around 10oz.