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kayak karl
10-17-2009, 21:39
I,m looking for a canister stove that can simmer for kayak camping. since weight is not as much of an issue i can cook different foods. only stoves i use are alcohol soda can type and white gas pump make me nervous. any suggestions would be appreciated.
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KK
Karl, here's the stove I use when I'm cooking for more than one person, or simmering is important:
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gear/Stoves/Vargo%20Titanium%20Jet-ti%20stove/Anthony%20Smith/Long%20Term%20Report/
It's a tad lighter than the MSR PocketRocket and has a wider burner head. It's also more stable and durable (I had a PocketRocket and sold it to buy this one). It's the only stove to survive Backpacking Light's cliff toss (yes, they tossed stoves off of a cliff and attempted to use them "as is" after retrieving them. Both my PocketRocket and the Jet-ti stove are sensitive to winds. I use the closed cell foam from my pack (the "frame") as a windbreak.
MikenSalem
10-17-2009, 23:42
MSR Windpro see moosejaw.com ~$80 The thing will go way down low or turn into a flamethrower. Nice wide pattern too. I almost forgot it also works with an outback oven since the canister is remote that way you can make biscuts and gravy:D Mmmmmmm
Snowleopard
10-18-2009, 00:29
Snowpeak and Primus canister stoves simmer well and my guess is that Optimus and Brunton do also.
I have an older version of this stove and it simmers well: http://www.rei.com/product/643058
I also have this Primus stove that I got cheap used: http://www.rei.com/product/784351 If you can find a bargain on one of these grab it. The heat exchanger pot gets to a boil faster and uses less fuel.
The canister stoves that have sit flat on the ground like the Primus not on the canister are nice because they are often more stable, but are a bit heavier.
Karl, I've had good luck with the Crux as a paddler myself I look for the most compact designs for storage in the hatches.
kayak karl
10-18-2009, 12:43
i like the idea of the "sit flat on the ground like the Primus* idea. even the extra weight is not that much considering the oven/baking options.
problem 2 :confused: i have no cook ware for a stove like this. only have a 3 cup pot. any suggestions for 1-2 people. frying pan included:)
I've heard good things about the new (bigger) Jetboil.:)
Hi kayak karl here a picture of the new Primus canister stove nice thing
about it the canister sit away from the stove so you can use
a really good windscreen with it.
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bigcranky
10-18-2009, 15:03
I have several canister stoves. Er, four, actually (not that I have a problem or anything.) All of them simmer pretty well, and I can use them with various sizes of pots, mugs, fry pans, coffeemakers, etc. The most versatile canister-top stove is the Brunton Raptor, because it has very wide fold-out pot supports that can handle a 2-liter pot or a larger frying pan.
For kayak camping, I would probably take my remote canister Snow Peak stove. It can handle much heavier weights of pots and water, without being quite as tippy. Plus it can use a wind screen (useful when camped along the water), and it works very well in cold weather (the canister can be inverted, not that I would recommend that sort of thing.)
You did say canister, and I will simply comment on non canister ones, if you might consider them. We have a lot of experience with the Optimus nova stoves and MSR dragonfly stoves. Both of these share these traits if that fits what you need. Big pot stability, and weight capability, true simmer capability, very fuel efficient with white gas, high BTU if needed. Both are kinda loud at full throttle, but so what. Not the lightest, but really good IMO.
skinewmexico
10-19-2009, 11:18
If I was getting a tiny stove, the Snowpeak Gigapower would be my choice, efficient and lower CO emissions than most other stoves of that type, including the Pocket Rocket. My group or canoe stove now is a Primus EtaPower that I got on SAC for $45. Comes with a 2L pot and lid/skillet. The heat exchanger on the pot is super efficient, integral windscreen, canister can be inverted for below freezing weather, intergral sparker, and the storage bag is an insulated cozy you can use for group FBC cooking. It's a little heavier though. We used if for 4 days with a group of 5 last summer, all above 10,000', and didn't use an entire canister of fuel.
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Primus-EtaPower-EF-Trail-Stove/PMS0030M.html?RSC_ID=WR_PMS0030
Nearly Normal
10-19-2009, 12:27
Cheap and works well. If it goes overboard you aint lost much.
http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5431B705&categoryid=2010&brand=
take-a-knee
10-19-2009, 12:33
MSR Windpro see moosejaw.com ~$80 The thing will go way down low or turn into a flamethrower. Nice wide pattern too. I almost forgot it also works with an outback oven since the canister is remote that way you can make biscuts and gravy:D Mmmmmmm
I'll second the MSR Windpro. Dick's Sporting Goods carries them.
avalonmorn
10-19-2009, 13:16
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Exponent-F1-Ultralight-Stove/dp/B0009VC7UG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1255968518&sr=1-1
Dicentra
10-19-2009, 13:19
I have the Snowpeak Ti Canister stove. LOVE it.
Snowleopard
10-19-2009, 18:25
... We have a lot of experience with the Optimus nova stoves and MSR dragonfly stoves. Both of these share these traits if that fits what you need. Big pot stability, and weight capability, true simmer capability, very fuel efficient with white gas, high BTU if needed. Both are kinda loud at full throttle, but so what. Not the lightest, but really good IMO.
I second the Optimus Nova as a really good stove. Except in cold weather or melting snow, a canister stove is more convenient. The Snowpeak gigapower canister stove is very good, but kind of tippy.