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Have wood fire, need kettle:sun
Wise Old Owl
02-02-2010, 23:23
http://www.preparednesshelp.com/kelly-kettles/large-kelly-kettle/prod_82.html
http://www.preparednesshelp.com/kelly-kettles/medium-kelly-kettle/prod_83.html
that thing is neat. so the middle cylinder of it gets filled with fire and boils water in teh surrounding kettle...
Rocket Jones
02-03-2010, 07:28
They're really too heavy for backpacking, but for car camping or kayaking they'd be perfect. I've got one on my 'want' list for home emergency use. If we lose power long-term, it would be a handy and efficient way to boil water.
I know someone has a used one out there somewhere. They're too heavy for backpacking, so let loose of it, buy a Super Stove. I have stoves!!! we can work out a super trade....or a fast paypal transaction or snail mail money order or hard cold cash. Let's deal........my first born daughter.......:D I'll throw her in to sweeten the trade;)
Rick Hancock
02-03-2010, 12:03
The Kelly Kettle is difficult at best to obtain in the U.S. I purchased mine from the web site, took appx. 3 weeks shipped from Ireland. In addition to cost plus shipping fees there was a charge to my card for foreign exchange of currency.
The Kelly Kettle is a great novelty item, I use mine for cooking a campground breakfast before heading into the backcountry. But I only use it in that type of setting. It is light but bulky and subject to soot build up. The company offers several sizes and types of material plus a few cooksets.
I enjoy using it and people are always intrigued by the simplicity. The volumne of heated water is not great, enough for 2-3 cups but it does heat very fast. Perfect for car camping or Canoe/kayak travel.
There is a company that sells tools/gadgets, I can't recall their name at this time. I believe they called it a Welsh Fishermans Stove or something like that.
Rick
JustaTouron
02-03-2010, 12:10
Let's deal........my first born daughter.......:D I'll throw her in to sweeten the trade;)
Honey, I got great news...I got a great deal on pot with a hole in the middle and we don't have to worry about paying for a wedding anymore. :-?
McCulloch
02-03-2010, 12:35
I got mine here. Prices in Canadian dollars. on edit: Sorry my mistake US dollars despite the fact that Lee Valley is Canadian Company.
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=2&p=43901&cat=2,40733,40996
Available in stores across Canada or via mail order.
Sorry Zelph I'd love to have one of your stoves but I love my kelly kettle.
Rick Hancock
02-03-2010, 19:53
Not a bad price, appx $110 including shipping. A little less than what I paid. It is a neat little invention and people always ask questions about it. Quite often on cold nights my daughter and I will brew tea on it on our deck (make sure you have a fireproof area).
I'd opt for building a small fire and putting my stainless steel water bottle on it. Why carry extra weight? (I know, I know - why am I carrying a stainless bottle?). I use a hot water bottle most nights in cold weather.
I'd opt for building a small fire and putting my stainless steel water bottle on it...
Uuuhh... Nevermind why you would be carrying it, why would you try to boil water in a vacuum flask? That's what you're talking about, right? Made to hold the heat in and the cold out? Or the cold in and the heat out! Bad idea to apply flame to the outside and expect the inside to get hot real quick.
I use a hot water bottle most nights in cold weather.
Wait a minute: You carry a stainless steel water bottle for a hot water bottle at night. An ordinary, non-vacuum flask? I guess I'm confused. Please explain. Don't you scald your feet? Do you put it in a sock?
Uuuhh... Nevermind why you would be carrying it, why would you try to boil water in a vacuum flask? That's what you're talking about, right? Made to hold the heat in and the cold out? Or the cold in and the heat out! Bad idea to apply flame to the outside and expect the inside to get hot real quick.
No, it's not a vacuum flask. It's single walled.
Of course, I COULD be that stupid. It just so happens I'm not.:)
Wait a minute: You carry a stainless steel water bottle for a hot water bottle at night. An ordinary, non-vacuum flask? I guess I'm confused. Please explain. Don't you scald your feet? Do you put it in a sock?
I carry it during the day in an old padded camera lens case which is strapped to my pack where I can use it as an ordinary water bottle.
At night I take the lens case off of the pack, put the hot single walled (just so other folks know) bottle into it, and, during the night it gives off heat slowly and keeps me warm. In the morning the water's still warmer than my body temperature and it heats up very quickly for my breakfast saving me fuel (I don't kindle a fire in the morning).
Ok, now I understand. Here's my take on ss flasks, but usually only for canoe trips. I take a vacuum flask, I fill it with hot water and food that is to be cooked, like oatmeal or soup, and I pack it, either in the canoe wanagan (kitchen box), or if overnight, in my bag if I'm cold. A good quality flask will delivery hot enough meals with no extra cooking, plus it doubles as a foot warmer if necessary. Best for large river or lake expeditions, where you may be hungry and on the water at the same time, or for when you really should have upgraded your sleep kit another few degrees.
These are old-style thermos flasks, with good, thick (heavy) walls. Not the best for light weight or for keeping things hot. Modern thin wall flasks are better in both departments, but I've never really considered taking one on a hiking trip. Maybe I should go weigh a 1l Nissan and reconsider. Or carry an old lens case, too. Live and learn.
Thank you everyone for your comments, very interesting and informative.
I want to experiment with an alcohol burner inside the kettle. The kettle is the windscreen and the pot. Very stable set-up right. For bushwacking the weight is not a problem.
Take a look at what oops56 has done with alcohol and the kettle:
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brooklynkayak
02-04-2010, 23:27
I keep one in my kayak. It works great for using found fuel on long paddles. It boils water fast and is reliable.
I would guess that it's not so good for use with an alcohol stove as the outside wall is exposed to wind that reduces it's efficiency. This is not a problem with found fuel as you have BTU's to spare, but I would find a big wind screen for it, if I was going to use alcohol as the fuel.
This thread makes me want to try it with alcohol. No stove would be required, just add the alcohol to the bottom section. I'll have to test this when I'm sober.