Compression sack and sleeping pad

[varsh]

I have a Never summer sleeping bag by Marmot. And I need a compression sack and a sleeping pad for the same. I am not sure what sizes I would need, and i am still finding out. If it helps, the sl. bag is a 'Long'.

I can pay something around 10 bucks for the sack and 20 for the pad.

Thanks

[srestrepo]

I have a granite Gear Compression Sack that i dont use. i'll send it to ya for 10 bucks if you still need it.

pm me.

[skinewmexico]

Don't use a compression sack with a down bag, unless you just want to lose about 20 degrees of temp rating.

[Tinker]

[QUOTE=skinewmexico;985739]Don't use a compression sack with a down bag, unless you just want to lose about 20 degrees of temp rating.
[QUOTE]
....Or MORE if it's synthetic.
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[thelowend]

Tinker, you're saying compressing a synthetic bag is permanently detrimental to its loft? how do i expect to carry a sleeping bag or quilt inside my pack without it taking up the whole thing? what is your solution?

[ChrisFol]

Tinker, you're saying compressing a synthetic bag is permanently detrimental to its loft? how do i expect to carry a sleeping bag or quilt inside my pack without it taking up the whole thing? what is your solution?

You could use something like the Sea to Summit 13L UL Drybag. I generally put my sleeping bag, and any other clothing that I only use at night in the bag and this works just fine without over-compressing your sleeping bag.

[Lyle]

Ever since switching from and external pack to an internal, I haven't used any stuff sack for my sleeping bag, down or synthetic.

I place a plastic garbage bag in the bottom of my pack. Inside this go the sleeping bag, and any of my "must stay dry" clothes. I then loosely close the garbage bag, with the opening near the center of the pack. The remaining items are then packed on top of it, compressing the sleeping bag and clothes only as much as is necessary to fit everything in. This method allows the sleeping bag to fill all the nooks and crannies in the bottom of the pack, since it isn't confined to a specific cylindrical shape. By leaving the garbage bag only loosely closed, excess air easily is expelled from the garbage bag as it is compressed. By keeping the opening of the garbage bag near the center of the pack, water has never worked it's way into it, even while hiking in an all-day downpour. I do use an external rain cover too.

I think this method makes better and more efficient use of the space inside the pack, and it prevents me from compressing the sleeping bag any more than is necessary on any given trip or day.

[nitewalker]

i went to an outfiter one time to bye a sleeping bag and they were storing the bags inside the stuff sacks. i told the salesperson that storing them like this is not good and why. he said if they did it the other way there would be no room in there storage area. i proceded to tell him he would lose alot of business if he brought them out inside the stuff sack. after telling him all this i turned and walked out the door without a sleeping bag..

[Tinker]

Tinker, you're saying compressing a synthetic bag is permanently detrimental to its loft? how do i expect to carry a sleeping bag or quilt inside my pack without it taking up the whole thing? what is your solution?

The stuffsack it comes with is probably as small as the manufacturer recommends compressing it. "Compression sacks" on the other hand, are often used to compress items as tightly as possible, which crimps the synthetic fibers more than they originally were. Used over and over again it can lead to a breakdown of the fibers.
I don't use synthetic bags anymore (though I do use synth. clothing). My personal method is to put the sleeping bag and nighttime clothes, extra socks, and anything that absolutely can NOT get wet into a heavy duty trash bag in the bottom of my pack, compress the whole lot against the bottom of the pack, squeezing the air out of the trash bag and then twisting the neck of the bag a number of times and tucking it back between the pack's fabric and the bag itself. This makes the whole package conform to the dimensions of the pack without over compressing the sleeping bag, down clothes, etc. I've been doing this for years and can't remember whether I thought it up or someone taught me about it. No matter. It works for me.
When I worked at REI I was told to instruct customers to never leave their sleeping bags in their stuff sacks for prolonged periods - especially synthetic fills. ALSO, I found out somewhere along the way that synthetic fibers are heat set to acheive a certain crimp or bulk, and that temperatures above 150 degrees or so can cause the fibers to relax, reducing loft.
Personally, I ruined a nearly new 20 degree synth. bag by drying it in a hot commercial dryer. It lost half of its loft in 20 min!

[Tinker]

I misspelled achieve! No donation, no correction - oh well.

[tonejones]

wow i have a pad i will sell ridge rest 3/4