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zelph
09-15-2010, 19:53
WTB used Stainless Steel Kelly Kettle one with dents and bruises preferred as long as it doesn't leak:D

Will pay cash or paypal and international money order for Canadian and UK sellers.

JAK
09-15-2010, 20:22
http://www.kellykettle.com/vmchk/Kelly-Kettles.html?TreeId=1

Oh, I see they do make a stainless steel one now.
It is a bit large for backpacking.

I think they changed the sizes of the aluminum ones also.
I think mine is bigger than the small, but smaller than the aluminum.

I suppose the cork is handy for carrying it from the stream, but I've always used my water bottles for that. Occassionally I might have used the cork as a cork. Too often I pop it in to keep some soot from going in, and then fail to take it back out on time. Even loose, it can get stuck somehow. Maybe the aluminum expands and makes a vacuum before the water boils. Not sure.

See here now Lee Valley still lists their original two, and gives the weights.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?c=&cat=2,40733,40996&p=43901

The smaller one is mine, at 1.2 pounds with base, and
20oz water = 1 Imp Pint = 2.5 cups ~ 600-625ml, but I get 700ml in.
It is in my opinion the best for backpacking for 1-2 people, even 3 people.

It would be interesting if it was made in stainless, or titanium.
Then you might be able to use it without water inside of it, for cooking and drying.

JAK
09-15-2010, 20:26
With the smallest one, with good fuel the first boil takes about 10min, and after that only 8min or so, so even with 2 adults and 3 kids I've been able to serve everyone hot chocolate and coffee and so on. No need for the larger ones unless you had a larger crowd. I suppose it would be nice to have all that hot water in one go though, for coffee, meals, and cleanup all in one go.

zelph
09-15-2010, 20:44
I choose the larger one for use at a base camp. It's easier to practice loading fuel on the larger one.:) I think it'll be easier to top light also if my idea works out. I think I would fashion a "cork" of some kind out of stainless mesh for use when boiling. Use the cork cork;) when transporting water. Maybe not even use a cover over the spout when heating, a little ash is good once in a while.

http://www.kellykettle.com/Kelly-Kettles/Stainless-Steel-Kelly-Kettle%C2%AE-1.7-Ltr-/-3-Pint.html

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JAK
09-15-2010, 21:00
A friend of mine that does prospecting just got a big one, directly from Kelly Kettle.
It might be the big Stainless Steel one. Not sure. He did say it was huge. lol.
He got the whole kit to go with it too.

JAK
09-15-2010, 21:08
I'm still confused by the 0.57 litres for the small.
I am pretty sure that is the one I have, and it holds more than that.

http://www.kellykettle.com/Kelly-Kettles/Small-Kelly-KettleŽ-Alu.-0.57-Ltr-/-1-pint.html

Mine weighs less than that also, pretty sure, like 1 pound without the base, and 1.2 pounds with the base. Maybe it is built stronger now or something.

Anyhow:
1 Imperial Pint = 20 Imperial Ounces
20 Imperial Ounces = 19.215 US Ounces
19.215 US Ounces = 0.568 litres
Well, the math works out, but mine holds at least 700ml without too much sputtering over, I'm pretty sure.

zelph
09-15-2010, 21:15
A friend of mine that does prospecting just got a big one, directly from Kelly Kettle.
It might be the big Stainless Steel one. Not sure. He did say it was huge. lol.
He got the whole kit to go with it too.

I want the huge one:) I might splurge and get the kit if I can't find a used one.

A two week vacation is coming soon to try out my hammocks, would be nice to have a kettle by then.


Using whatever natural fuel is lying around (twigs, dry grass, heather, Birch bark, Pine cones, dry animal dung, etc

JAK, any idea what heather is

holyphenol
09-15-2010, 21:39
Heather is a really popular Scottish plant(I've heard it called Scottish Carpet...) that used to be used to thatch roofs and such... Dries really well...

JAK
09-15-2010, 21:43
Heather is a low flowering plant, which grows on hills in places in Scotland.
Such areas might be called heath.

But heather is much much more than that.

At 8:20 minutes in, heather is mentioned, might give you a sense. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Jur-2_AK4

JAK
09-15-2010, 23:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3B2mntKAZo

Blooming Heather

Oh the summertime is coming
And the trees are sweetly blooming
And the wild mountain thyme
Grows around the blooming heather
Will ye go, Lassie go?

Chorus
And we'll all go together
To pluck wild mountain thyme
All around the blooming heather
Will ye go, Lassie go?

I will build my love a tower
Near yon' pure crystal fountain
And on it I will build
All the flowers of the mountain
Will ye go, Lassie go?

Chorus
And we'll all go together
To pluck wild mountain thyme
All around the blooming heather
Will ye go, Lassie go?

If my true love she were gone
I would surely find another
To pluck wild mountain thyme
Grows around the blooming heather
Will ye go, Lassie go?

Chorus
And we'll all go together
To pluck wild mountain thyme
All around the blooming heather
Will ye go, Lassie go?

Let us go, lassie, go

JAK
09-15-2010, 23:44
The Corries always did an excellent job of that.
I love this one because the audience has such lovely voices also...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKvB3g3HEPQ

JAK
09-16-2010, 00:13
Anyhow, best of luck finding a stainless steel kelly kettle. I'll ask my buddy if he is looking to go lighter, but I think he's still in glutton for punishment mode. Prospectors eh.

I'll leave you with another Corrie tune...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeOR_sNSPbg

... and this great moment in Scottish sporting history...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWFoUsjuTlM

O flower of Scotland
When will we see
Your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again


Let's no forget Allan Wells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDLpFqyxz8

zelph
09-16-2010, 12:36
Heather is a low flowering plant, which grows on hills in places in Scotland.
Such areas might be called heath.

But heather is much much more than that.

At 8:20 minutes in, heather is mentioned, might give you a sense. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Jur-2_AK4

Very special plant indeed.:)

In the first minute of the first video a flowering patch of plants are shown, are they heather? The video will calm you and the next two videos will get your blood moving. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jgma--0WYU&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqlgUaGfw90&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdD5Te_ZZys&feature=related

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zelph
09-16-2010, 12:59
This one will bring a smile to your faces:

Kelly Kettle Blues

What do you think the title of the video should be?

JAK, what size do you think that kettle is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQtsePL20DY&feature=related

JAK
09-16-2010, 15:28
yeah, that would be heather.

Here is a Highland Sword Dance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc105cW_Uz4

It originated from the ancient traditions of dancing over swords before battle. If you touched a sword, you would be sure to die in battle, so you could then fight even more bravely.

JAK
09-16-2010, 15:31
That looks like the 2.5 pint, the large one.
The middle sized one is as wide, but shorter.
It could be the stainless steel one though, or the aluminum if new.
My bet would be the stainless steel.

poor wee bugger doesn't know how to light a kelly kettle.
you should always light it with the kettle already in place.

JAK
09-16-2010, 15:35
Yeah. I'm changing my vote to the 3 pint stainless steel version

All he needs is a few handfuls of spruce sticks, dropped in vertically,
and a few handfuls of birch bark, or just one cotton ball with vaseline.
Top lit, or bottom lit, should work either way, but the kettle should be in place.

JAK
09-16-2010, 15:40
One of the beauties of have the sticks vertical, besides better draft and combustion, is that you get much better radiation from the burning solid fuel to the water chamber than if you just have a small fire sitting there at the bottom, getting cold from the ground and the incoming draft. The vertical sticks keep most of the burning fuel above the incoming draft. The burning from the top down will burn any volatile gases that try to escape without complete combustion. It may smoke and steam at firdt, but eventually the volatile gases should mostly burn without escaping. You get the best heat transfer towards the end when the water is hotter, as with many stoves.

zelph
09-17-2010, 12:05
One of the beauties of have the sticks vertical, besides better draft and combustion, is that you get much better radiation from the burning solid fuel to the water chamber than if you just have a small fire sitting there at the bottom, getting cold from the ground and the incoming draft. The vertical sticks keep most of the burning fuel above the incoming draft. The burning from the top down will burn any volatile gases that try to escape without complete combustion. It may smoke and steam at firdt, but eventually the volatile gases should mostly burn without escaping. You get the best heat transfer towards the end when the water is hotter, as with many stoves.



I'm so eager to try the vertical stack method that I purchased a new Stainless Kettle and hope to get it by Monday so I can have it for my up coming hammock tryout debut. I'll be setting up a base camp and forge out from there. I bought it online. The stainless was only $5.00 more than the aluminum.

I'm still interested in purchasing a used one two are better than one:D

http://www.waterstrider.com/kelly-kettle.htm




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Wise Old Owl
10-12-2010, 23:40
Zelph due to complete deforestation the irish used to have trees instead of Heather - revisit that first u tube.