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Mtn Scout
12-01-2010, 15:35
i have been using a homebrew cottle stove for my GSI cook set. i have just gotten a snow peak 700 and am looking for some opinions on the best homebrew style stove and windscreen..:-? what are you guys using??
Make a Caldera Cone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VerP7-aiEBw
Mtn Scout
12-01-2010, 15:57
i am planning on attempting that. what about stove ideas???? thinking about toying with the super cat stove
burntoutphilosopher
12-01-2010, 16:11
see my gear talk post about my penny stove disasters ; )
i tried a modified cat can and it's worked well thusfar.
... here i'll post some pics.
i made mine out of a vienna sausage can and a prune juice can; which made for my worst breakfast in a long long time.
i am supposed to be camping right now but a bad snowstorm has it impossible to even drive to the park; so here i am making stoves ; )
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I'm not good at making stuff...I actually had trouble making the regular cat stove lol. Not sure, but I think you need a special kind of stove for the Caldera cone because there is less oxygen inside of it.
Mtn Scout
12-01-2010, 18:00
on the stoves with the wick. what is the best material to make a wick out of
Skidsteer
12-01-2010, 18:07
I'm not good at making stuff...I actually had trouble making the regular cat stove lol. Not sure, but I think you need a special kind of stove for the Caldera cone because there is less oxygen inside of it.
No, the stove that comes with a Caldera Cone is essentially a Kitten stove(small version of a Catstove [not to be confused with a Supercat]).
The biggest thing to remember for do-it-yourselfers having a go at the Caldera cone is to keep in mind the stove to pot distance so you don't smother the stove.
Wise Old Owl
12-01-2010, 18:08
see my gear talk post about my penny stove disasters ; )
i tried a modified cat can and it's worked well thusfar.
... here i'll post some pics.
i made mine out of a vienna sausage can and a prune juice can; which made for my worst breakfast in a long long time.
i am supposed to be camping right now but a bad snowstorm has it impossible to even drive to the park; so here i am making stoves ; )
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Aparently in BC things lean a little to the left and right or are truly bent.:D
i have been using a homebrew cottle stove for my GSI cook set. i have just gotten a snow peak 700 and am looking for some opinions on the best homebrew style stove and windscreen..:-? what are you guys using??
Super cat is super easy to make. No height cuts, joints, etc. I made mine with no tools, just a regular hole puncher (the kind you punch single holes in paper with). Lots of big holes means it needs good wind protection. I haven't used a Caldera cone yet, but it appears to be the superior solution. Just put the vent holes on only one side so you can position the holes down wind.
sheepdog
12-01-2010, 23:37
One stove is never enough
Vargo titanium wood stove, pretty cool product, went to no cook this year but I bought one anyway.
Was hoping to get our next week for 8-10 days but knee is not healed from surgery 6 weeks ago............plan was to use this with local fuel for warm meals/soup before bed
I use Skidsteers "Kitten" stove. Start off making one his. Skidds, point him in the direction of your Kitten thread.
burntoutphilosopher
12-04-2010, 21:16
on the stoves with the wick. what is the best material to make a wick out of
go to your hardwear store, to the kitchen and plumbing section and there is a black cloth welders use to welding pipes inside the house to keep things around it form catching fire. will not burn to melt past 2500 degrees, designed to take a continuous blowtorch.
softer than wools absorbs the alcohol like cotton.
like 20 bucks for a sq ft. of it though : /
Half Note
12-05-2010, 10:57
I'm a fan of the wood burning stoves. I plan on making this one (very ingenious idea - out of a thermos) this week. I know it won't be the best for rainy weather but it's cool nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI-MKKt6GPo
softer than wools absorbs the alcohol like cotton.
It absorbs like cotton and wants to hold onto it like cotton does. Does not wick very well.
Buy some and test it against some fiberglass cloth.
i have been using a homebrew cottle stove for my GSI cook set. i have just gotten a snow peak 700 and am looking for some opinions on the best homebrew style stove and windscreen..:-? what are you guys using??
You've come a long way in such a short time. Now you're giving your stoves away. You catch on fast. Congratulations!!
Is the cottle design your give away stoves?
burntoutphilosopher
12-07-2010, 18:41
It absorbs like cotton and wants to hold onto it like cotton does. Does not wick very well.
Buy some and test it against some fiberglass cloth.
^^ upon a side by side, the black cloth has noticeably less smell after burning. not sure how else to test the remaining vapour really.
when it finally burns out it simmers red and has bright spots dancing around it, i think it's working better than the fiberglass because of the woven nature of it, it has whicking properties unlike that of 'fluffy' pink insulation. vapours and liquid are drawn out of it due to the woven cloth fibers.
... on a slighty different note bout pink insulation, i work in a limited atmosphere environment... and one of the most dangerous things we come accross besides gasses is glass dust. when you burn that pink home insulation it breaks down over time and gives off minor amounts of glass dust. obviously nothing like an industrial environment, but i wouldn't want it in my lungs. maybe i'm paranoid. i can tell i dissected one of my penny stoves and after not even 7 ounces of HEET there is noticeable breakdown of the glass fiber.
-sorry if this is too much thread drift-
Skidsteer
12-07-2010, 18:53
^^ upon a side by side, the black cloth has noticeably less smell after burning. not sure how else to test the remaining vapour really.
when it finally burns out it simmers red and has bright spots dancing around it, i think it's working better than the fiberglass because of the woven nature of it, it has whicking properties unlike that of 'fluffy' pink insulation. vapours and liquid are drawn out of it due to the woven cloth fibers.
... on a slighty different note bout pink insulation, i work in a limited atmosphere environment... and one of the most dangerous things we come accross besides gasses is glass dust. when you burn that pink home insulation it breaks down over time and gives off minor amounts of glass dust. obviously nothing like an industrial environment, but i wouldn't want it in my lungs. maybe i'm paranoid. i can tell i dissected one of my penny stoves and after not even 7 ounces of HEET there is noticeable breakdown of the glass fiber.
-sorry if this is too much thread drift-
The wicking characteristics of the "black cloth" are somewhere between pink insulation and woven fiberglass cloth. It tends to slow down the burn compared to woven fiberglass but it is fairly consistent over a wide range of "in the field temps".
Rocket Jones
12-07-2010, 18:57
I always thought the pink insulation was to prevent a dangerous fuel slosh in case the stove got bumped.
burntoutphilosopher
12-07-2010, 19:11
where do you buy the woven fiberglass cloth? what's it's 'normal' purpose ?
Skidsteer
12-07-2010, 19:31
I always thought the pink insulation was to prevent a dangerous fuel slosh in case the stove got bumped.
It certainly helps.
where do you buy the woven fiberglass cloth? what's it's 'normal' purpose ?
Auto parts stores near the Bondo.
where do you buy the woven fiberglass cloth? what's it's 'normal' purpose ?
auto stores, used as motorcycle muffler wrap.
Mtn Scout
12-08-2010, 23:32
You've come a long way in such a short time. Now you're giving your stoves away. You catch on fast. Congratulations!!
Is the cottle design your give away stoves?
yes i have more of those than any other
i have been using a homebrew cottle stove for my GSI cook set. i have just gotten a snow peak 700 and am looking for some opinions on the best homebrew style stove and windscreen..:-? what are you guys using??
Do you have any photos of the cottle under the SP700? We like to see fire coming out the jets:)
About the easiest, lightest stove I have made is a simple cup out of a red bull can, Pot holder out of a 12 oz heineken can top, and a windscreen from a throw away roast pan. Its fairly efficient too.
This is what is looks like. Its a bag cook setup.
The windscreen is held together with a straightened out paper clip
and you can vary the size from loose to snug.
Everything fits inside the pot and it inside the container. The cozy fits into the alcohol cup.
This entire rig with fuel bottle is 5.5 oz and crush proof.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z300/tammons3/18ozcookkit.jpg
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Dances with Mice
12-11-2010, 18:37
I use Skidsteers "Kitten" stove. Start off making one his. Skidds, point him in the direction of your Kitten thread.Yeh, Skids' Kitten stove is a fantastic stove.
Skidsteer
12-11-2010, 19:24
Yeh, Skids' Kitten stove is a fantastic stove.
Thanks! I'm trying to remember who (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=5409&catid=searchresults&searchid=34278) taught me that one.
:D
Mtn Scout
12-13-2010, 09:58
Do you have any photos of the cottle under the SP700? We like to see fire coming out the jets:)
i am in the market for a smaller bottle than i have ben using. it throws too high flames
Mtn Scout
12-13-2010, 10:02
here are some of them. the one with the cone top i call the birdcage. and i fabbed the windscreen out of dryer duct. it fits my sp700 perfectly
Oogie Boogie
12-15-2010, 21:34
I know this is kind of cheese-ball for a first post, but hello all. Here's a tutorial on how to make your own wood gas stove from some recycled tin cans.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=250711&id=695142918
Or, if you want to spend ~$20 on a few refinements, and have it sent to you,
http://www.etsy.com/listing/64269844/mini-wood-gas-stove-recycled
It's not as deluxe as the titanium Bushcooker, but it's made from all recycled materials, and a quarter the price. Check it out. :)
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Mtn Scout
12-18-2010, 21:22
finally found my perfect combo. my homebrew style starlite stove, homebrew widscreen out of dryer vent which is made to fit my sp700. absolutely love the combo. 40 deg water 39 degree outside temp. 1 oz of heet rolling boil @ 5:48 and complete burn time of 9:24. everything fits into sp700 and all together including matches weighs in @ 7.8 oz. i am very pleased. only thing left is to put me some nitro fuel line on handles to keep them insulated
Country Roads
12-21-2010, 20:57
just made my first (probably 1st of many) supercat stove. Nice and easy!
I have also made a few cone windscreens.
I have made one cone to serve 2 purposes for my Heinie pot.
Way #1 is to use a beer band and the kitten stove as one would normally do with the cone.
Way #2 is to use it simply as a windscreen/pot stabilizer when using the supercat.
I have drilled 2 sets of holes in the windscreen to connect it as a cone: one set is tight enough to hold the can at the proper height for the kitten stove. The other set of holes makes the cone looser, so that the can sits properly on the supercat but gives some stability and wind protection.
I will have to do some trial burns each way to get the best number of vent holes for sufficient oxygen. Making stuff is the only way to survive when the weather gets too bad for winter walking.
Making stoves and windscreens is way too addictive :)
Alcohol stoves are much more efficient with a wide bottom pot than a narrow cup type. For my Snow Peak 700 I would use my Vargo Ti-Jet (or Jet-Ti - I've seen it both ways). It puts a nice small flame right on the bottom of the cup. With my Supercat the flames go up the sides of the Snow Peak and out into the air. I use a Ti windscreen that I got at www.backpackinglight.com (http://www.backpackinglight.com). It rolls up to the size of a pencil when not in use and uses paper clips to hold it together so I can use it on many different size pots.