View Full Version : Horrible experience at Uncle Johnny's
HoneyBear
03-23-2011, 07:49
I posted this on another thread but I feel it deserves it's own.
Picture yourself in front of Uncle Johnny's. It is 7:45am. You have a little time to kill before the breakfast shuttle. You notice a Chinese Checkers board sitting outside on a picnic table. The same one you saw yesterday when you arrived. Figuring it is for guests use and enjoyment, you begin setting up the board for a new game. As you are doing this the manager, James, comes storming out of the office literally screaming and swearing at you, "What the F#@* are you doing? Why the F#*@ are you touching my game. Who the F$#@ said you could touch that? You must be a mother F#$@ing Whiteblazer. That's it isn't it? You're a God damned mother F$#@ing Whiteblazer.
This is exactly what happened about a week ago to a friend of mine hiking now. I will not speculate on James' sanity or level of intoxication. I just wanted to warn everyone. Uncle Johnny's is most definitely not a hiker friendly establishment.
I should also mention that when checking in my friend also purchased a 4oz canister of fuel for $4.99. That total was added to the $25 room charge. Sales tax was applied to that total and then room tax was applied to that total. My friend was in no mood to argue and simply gave james 2 twenties and checked in. He was not going to debate this point with someone who treats hikers as an inconveinience or annoyance rather than the reason he has a job to begin with. It was only a couple dollars. But paying room tax on canister fuel? And then paying tax on tax?
I implore everyone to avoid this establishment unless you like getting ripped off, nickle and dimed, and mistreated
I feel it's a shame that an otherwise nice hostel is ruined by the presence of such a disturbed, hateful individual
Been a few years since I was there and never had too much problems, but this operation is strickly around for profit making purposes. I gather that Uncle Johnny is just burned out and only stays open to have the income. I got a ride from him to downtown and a lot of the discussion was negative... i.e. complaints of rowdy, intoxicated, party hikers, high insurance rates, dislike for Miss Janet, etc. Frankly, I was glad when the ride was over and hitched back to the trail with a more pleasant person. At the time, I just figured he was having a bad day, but it seems that other hikers say the same about his "hardly friendly" attitude. I don't have a good reading on this guy or his employees.
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 08:39
Stayed there back in 2008 for about a week, had a good time and he seemed okay then. I am thinking the same as others, he is get'n burned out and not having fun with this anymore.
Jim Adams
03-23-2011, 08:48
Same old story since 2002...he is just rude! Don't know about James but from the actions that I witnessed in 2002, I am shocked that he is still in business.
geek
john gault
03-23-2011, 09:09
It must be groundhog day
Lone Wolf
03-23-2011, 09:13
I am shocked that he is still in business.
geek
location, location, location. plus he runs a business. no gettin' over on him like hikers used to do at miss janet's
Trail Bug
03-23-2011, 09:27
Stayed there twice in 2009 and never had a problem.
It must be groundhog day
Every year...
I will say this... at any establishment it is who is working there and not the name of the place that makes or breaks it.
Year before last Glen, who was minding the store at the time, saved a hike by going way, way beyond anything I would have imagined anyone would do for someone (involved car trouble on a weekend - he got my truck fixed while me and my wife hiked).
Not only was my truck fixed, but my wife inadvertently left her pocketbook by the seat and her diamond/gold jewelry in the console and they were all there when we got back.
Fast forward to the present and I'm 100% sure that I would have to scrub the hike if that happened now. That's just the way it is. You could make a strong case by saying that I am responsible for my own car trouble and I'd have to agree with you. But it was nice and created a lot of good will when Glen stepped up and helped me out.
Fortunately for me, I live here now. :)
Tennessee Viking
03-23-2011, 09:44
I volunteered to help Johnny with a backlog of shuttle rides. He was very thankful I just walked in.
Trailbender
03-23-2011, 09:47
I posted this on another thread but I feel it deserves it's own.
Picture yourself in front of Uncle Johnny's. It is 7:45am. You have a little time to kill before the breakfast shuttle. You notice a Chinese Checkers board sitting outside on a picnic table. The same one you saw yesterday when you arrived. Figuring it is for guests use and enjoyment, you begin setting up the board for a new game. As you are doing this the manager, James, comes storming out of the office literally screaming and swearing at you, "What the F#@* are you doing? Why the F#*@ are you touching my game. Who the F$#@ said you could touch that? You must be a mother F#$@ing Whiteblazer. That's it isn't it? You're a God damned mother F$#@ing Whiteblazer.
Someone approaches me like that and I go into combat mode. They are a physical threat and as soon as they reach me, they will be struck several times in multiple places, whatever takes them out of the fight.
It's hard not to stop. Right on the trail. Music playing and a soft drink machine lit up in frount of you.
He doesn't have the greatest personality in town to deal with the folks who pass thru. If you stop, nothing is free. Be prepaired to pay for everything. He is in business to make money, not to help hikers.
What ever you do, don't ask him about Miss Janet, but that's another story.:eek:
Lone Wolf
03-23-2011, 11:40
He is in business to make money, not to help hikers.
and there's nothing wrong with that
LoneRidgeRunner
03-23-2011, 11:46
Every one who runs a business in it to make money so.....but..double charging...room tax on unrelated to room items..etc... is uncalled for and probably illegal...definitely unprofessional... and you can't keep a business going by being rude to customers....doesn't matter if it's the owner, manager, or employees being rude and hateful..the results are the same...it hurts the business...
rambunny
03-23-2011, 11:52
He's always been good to me-the help he's had the past few years?
CrumbSnatcher
03-23-2011, 11:53
free tent sites just north of the river
Many Walks
03-23-2011, 11:56
We stayed there in 07 and Uncle Johnny was great to us and went out of his way to help us with a gear issue. He did have a problem at the time with a couple of hikers who came back from town drunk and started smoking weed. They were getting loud and belligerent so he asked them to settle down and quit smoking or leave as he has a concern of getting bad publicity for his business in the community. Of course they got even more obnoxious and gave him a bunch of crap. I know...hard to believe.
We had no interaction with James, but it sounds like he has developed a dislike for hikers which could easily be the result of too many incidents like the above over the years. If he can't get a grip on his own response to hikers in general, it sounds as though everyone would be better off if he looked for other opportunities.
I hope Johnny can get it squared away because it really can be a nice stay.
mweinstone
03-23-2011, 12:10
he likes me. anyway he dosnt bitch that i mooch every time. i sit across the street on the embankment and scarf my food i diddnt buy there. then i fill my water there. then i sit and repack and hang out in friends rooms there. then i ask stupid questions like can i tie my kite here. then i call janet and have her pick me up there. and since forever i been lovein on him like that and hes nice as peach pie to me. more than 10 years.bought 2 snickers there 18 years ago. may have been my only purchace. id say hes good to me. dont know why.cant guess.
mlkelley
03-23-2011, 12:24
I stayed there several nights in '08. The experience was ok, but there did seem to be a weird vibe. It's a shame these reports seem to happen every year.
hes good to me. dont know why.cant guess.
Sympathy ? :D
I heard too many stories similar to this one along the trail last year, so when got to Erwin (early June), I just hitched up the road to the Holiday Inn, which was of course more expensive but very nice.
Later up the trail to Damascus, I started hearing stories from several hikers who were coming down with gastroenteritis problems right after staying at Uncle Johnnies, one was so bad he had to get off the trail a day to recover...don't know if there was a link or not.
I doubt I would ever stay there on future hikes, but many hikers do stay there for the convenience and shuttles to town, so it can be a good stop for some.
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 14:24
We had 2 hikers back in 2008 that Uncle J kicked out because they smoked pot, during the day, in his back yard, with people watching from the house over.
Hard to believe (okay this isnt) but one of the hikers was a person who complained about other hikers blue blazing and such and how its not right - then he turns around and does something that makes us all look like a-holes to others.
Uncle J kicked them out and another hiker who got over drunk and kept bothern hikers trying to sleep.
max patch
03-23-2011, 15:42
Been a few years since I was there and never had too much problems, but this operation is strickly around for profit making purposes. I gather that Uncle Johnny is just burned out and only stays open to have the income.
Its a business. Nothing wrong with making money.
i.e. complaints of rowdy, intoxicated, party hikers,
Do you know how many hostels have closed because of "party hikers"? Many of the donation only church operated hostels have given up and closed because of the problems caused by those they have tried to serve.
high insurance rates,
Insurance rates are high. Whats wrong with complaining about them? Most shuttlers do not carry the appropriate insurance because it is too high. Sounds like UJ is doing the right thing and carrying the appropriate insurance.
dislike for Miss Janet, etc.
So what? MJ was an employee, then a competitor.
We had 2 hikers back in 2008 that Uncle J kicked out because they smoked pot, during the day, in his back yard, with people watching from the house over.
Hard to believe (okay this isnt) but one of the hikers was a person who complained about other hikers blue blazing and such and how its not right - then he turns around and does something that makes us all look like a-holes to others.
Uncle J kicked them out and another hiker who got over drunk and kept bothern hikers trying to sleep.
Please don't refer to people who use prescription medication on private property as A holes. Many people have completely legitimate reasons to smoke medicinal cannabis. If a property owner wants to exclude guests who are on medication from his property, he should let people know before they rent a bunk that he doesn't respect patients civil rights. If a hiker has a prescription for the therapeutic use of cannabis, from a Dr. then he/she has the right to use it any time of day. Suggesting that someone can only take medications at night or in hiding is completely ignorant. Also if neighbors don't want to see something they shouldn't look, it isn't a property owners responsibility to block off views of his yard.
The use of medicinal cannabis by those who are legally prescribed it in their state of residence, while in another state which isn't an official medical marijuana state, is protected by a precedent setting Federal District court decision in New Mexico Aug 12, 2009. A Colorado man, who is legally prescribed cannabis by his Colorado doctor, was arrested for possession of Cannabis while visiting New Mexico, and then appealed it all the way to the Federal court. Precedent set by one Federal Court applies to the whole nation. I don't have access to Lexus Nexus right now, so I can't cite the case number, but this did happen.
Slo-go'en
03-23-2011, 15:57
Later up the trail to Damascus, I started hearing stories from several hikers who were coming down with gastroenteritis problems right after staying at Uncle Johnnies, one was so bad he had to get off the trail a day to recover...don't know if there was a link or not.
Uncle Johnnies doesn't serve food, so they got it somewhere else. Could have been water they drank a week earlier or food at one of the resturants in town, or thier own food. There is really no way of knowing.
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 16:29
Please don't refer to people who use prescription medication on private property as A holes. Many people have completely legitimate reasons to smoke medicinal cannabis. If a property owner wants to exclude guests who are on medication from his property, he should let people know before they rent a bunk that he doesn't respect patients civil rights. If a hiker has a prescription for the therapeutic use of cannabis, from a Dr. then he/she has the right to use it any time of day. Suggesting that someone can only take medications at night or in hiding is completely ignorant. Also if neighbors don't want to see something they shouldn't look, it isn't a property owners responsibility to block off views of his yard.
The use of medicinal cannabis by those who are legally prescribed it in their state of residence, while in another state which isn't an official medical marijuana state, is protected by a precedent setting Federal District court decision in New Mexico Aug 12, 2009. A Colorado man, who is legally prescribed cannabis by his Colorado doctor, was arrested for possession of Cannabis while visiting New Mexico, and then appealed it all the way to the Federal court. Precedent set by one Federal Court applies to the whole nation. I don't have access to Lexus Nexus right now, so I can't cite the case number, but this did happen.
I hope you are joking! If so thats funny shiaat!
If not .... I don't know .... stop trying to protect A-holes who are just making us all look like idiots.
By the way, I don't care if someone smokes up, I don't myself. They aren't A-holes for smoking up. They are A-holes for having their heads up their arses and making the rest of us look bad because they are too stupid (maybe they smoke tooooo much) to respect his property and do it someplace else. He does let you know its not allowed - at least used to.
Lone Wolf
03-23-2011, 16:36
Please don't refer to people who use prescription medication on private property as A holes. Many people have completely legitimate reasons to smoke medicinal cannabis. If a property owner wants to exclude guests who are on medication from his property, he should let people know before they rent a bunk that he doesn't respect patients civil rights. If a hiker has a prescription for the therapeutic use of cannabis, from a Dr. then he/she has the right to use it any time of day. Suggesting that someone can only take medications at night or in hiding is completely ignorant. Also if neighbors don't want to see something they shouldn't look, it isn't a property owners responsibility to block off views of his yard.
The use of medicinal cannabis by those who are legally prescribed it in their state of residence, while in another state which isn't an official medical marijuana state, is protected by a precedent setting Federal District court decision in New Mexico Aug 12, 2009. A Colorado man, who is legally prescribed cannabis by his Colorado doctor, was arrested for possession of Cannabis while visiting New Mexico, and then appealed it all the way to the Federal court. Precedent set by one Federal Court applies to the whole nation. I don't have access to Lexus Nexus right now, so I can't cite the case number, but this did happen.hahahahaha! :D puhleeeeze :rolleyes:
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 16:42
hahahahaha! :D puhleeeeze :rolleyes:
Come on Lone Wolf - he/she makes some valid points for someone who may or may not be high on possible legally or non-legally issued medical medication by a professional person that wears a usually white coat ..... oh yea, doctor - thats what the are called. :D
Damn it, had to correct my post 2 times for spelling ...... this is why I don't smoke up ...... can't afford to spare the brain cells!!!
Trailbender
03-23-2011, 16:52
Come on Lone Wolf - he/she makes some valid points for someone who may or may not be high on possible legally or non-legally issued medical medication by a professional person that wears a usually white coat ..... oh yea, doctor - thats what the are called. :D
Damn it, had to correct my post 2 times for spelling ...... this is why I don't smoke up ...... can't afford to spare the brain cells!!!
I don't smoke either, but the brain cell thing is a myth. It was outlawed because of corporate interests in 1937. It was all about money, nothing else. People look at as "bad" because of extensive brainwashing by the government.
And businesses are there to make a profit, true, but you should never put money over the worth of another human life. Money is a tool, to be used in the proper context. I wish I could live without money, I have gotten to the point where I am pretty cheap with stuff, but still need it, unfortunately.
brian039
03-23-2011, 17:42
Yeah James is a piece of work. I liked him and he seemed to like me but he's not for everybody, don't take him too seriously.
sheepdog
03-23-2011, 18:00
Please don't refer to people who use prescription medication on private property as A holes. Many people have completely legitimate reasons to smoke medicinal cannabis. If a property owner wants to exclude guests who are on medication from his property, he should let people know before they rent a bunk that he doesn't respect patients civil rights. If a hiker has a prescription for the therapeutic use of cannabis, from a Dr. then he/she has the right to use it any time of day. Suggesting that someone can only take medications at night or in hiding is completely ignorant. Also if neighbors don't want to see something they shouldn't look, it isn't a property owners responsibility to block off views of his yard.
The use of medicinal cannabis by those who are legally prescribed it in their state of residence, while in another state which isn't an official medical marijuana state, is protected by a precedent setting Federal District court decision in New Mexico Aug 12, 2009. A Colorado man, who is legally prescribed cannabis by his Colorado doctor, was arrested for possession of Cannabis while visiting New Mexico, and then appealed it all the way to the Federal court. Precedent set by one Federal Court applies to the whole nation. I don't have access to Lexus Nexus right now, so I can't cite the case number, but this did happen.
Yeah, I'm sure they all had prescriptions. :rolleyes:
Skidsteer
03-23-2011, 18:10
Yeah, I'm sure they all had prescriptions. :rolleyes:
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:D
sheepdog
03-23-2011, 18:11
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/th_potprescription.png (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/?action=view¤t=potprescription.png)
:D
hahahhahahahahahahaha
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 18:13
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/th_potprescription.png (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/?action=view¤t=potprescription.png)
:D
That there sir is the damned funniest thing I've read today! :sun
Cookerhiker
03-23-2011, 18:15
.... complaints of rowdy, intoxicated, party hikers, ....
....Uncle Johnny was great to us and went out of his way to help us with a gear issue. He did have a problem at the time with a couple of hikers who came back from town drunk and started smoking weed. They were getting loud and belligerent so he asked them to settle down and quit smoking or leave as he has a concern of getting bad publicity for his business in the community. Of course they got even more obnoxious and gave him a bunch of crap. I know...hard to believe....
We had 2 hikers back in 2008 that Uncle J kicked out because they smoked pot, during the day, in his back yard, with people watching from the house over.
Hard to believe (okay this isnt) but one of the hikers was a person who complained about other hikers blue blazing and such and how its not right - then he turns around and does something that makes us all look like a-holes to others.
Uncle J kicked them out and another hiker who got over drunk and kept bothern hikers trying to sleep.
I agree the OP didn't deserve the abuse he received from James.
Looking at UJ's perspective, how many of us wouldn't get at least somewhat ornery from the "hikers" misbehavior reported above?
vamelungeon
03-23-2011, 18:15
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/th_potprescription.png (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/?action=view¤t=potprescription.png)
:D
That made me laugh!!! Thanks!
http://www.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1491
According to this site, there is a 60.46% chance that those hikers were legally prescribed by doctors. Nearly half of US states have some form of law allowing for the use of Medicinal Cannabis. I just assume that if someone is using medication, then they are using it as such. If you saw someone taking antibiotics, wouldn't you assume that he had an infection and had a prescription? Why should it be different with Cannabis?
If someone chooses to treat himself with this med, without a prescription then they expose themselves to risks of prosecution, and possible mistreatment of whatever condition they have which they're seeking to treat.
It's as easy to get a prescription for Medical Marijuana as it is for any other medication that a Dr. prescribes. Not that I would suggest that I am a patient or am currently taking any meds. We have just had near constant debate here in AZ since our law just passed. When of course the local media isn't covering Sherrif Joe Arpaio, removal of citizen rights from US born kids, or gun violence.
sheepdog
03-23-2011, 18:20
Cheech and Chong MD
We
Earn
Every
Dollar
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:D
Nice, Love it!
WingedMonkey
03-23-2011, 18:28
Stayed there back in 2008 for about a week
May I ask why?:sun
Skidsteer
03-23-2011, 18:28
I agree the OP didn't deserve the abuse he received from James.
Looking at UJ's perspective, how many of us wouldn't get at least somewhat ornery from the "hikers" misbehavior reported above?
Oh I agree.
I would also love to be an innocent bystander to witness a hiker show UJ a medical marijuana prescription. With a video camera rolling.
Rocket Jones
03-23-2011, 18:29
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/th_potprescription.png (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/?action=view¤t=potprescription.png)
:D
ROFLMAO Excellent!
http://www.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1491
According to this site, there is a 60.46% chance that those hikers were legally prescribed by doctors. Nearly half of US states have some form of law allowing for the use of Medicinal Cannabis. I just assume that if someone is using medication, then they are using it as such. If you saw someone taking antibiotics, wouldn't you assume that he had an infection and had a prescription? Why should it be different with Cannabis?
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The whole medical marijuana thing is a scam perpetuated by pot heads who wnat to get high. Oh, sure there are tiny number of chemo therapy patients who can benefit from the use of medical cannabis which may not be treatable with conventional meds. Beyond them, the other 99.9% are stoners. As to the two who lit up at Uncle Johnny's- if you genuinely need mm, then you sure aren't out hiking.
wrongway_08
03-23-2011, 18:41
May I ask why?:sun
Day:
1 - waiting for a different tent to arrive from home.
2 - Tent came in, met up with other hikers I got ahead of, stayed with them that night.
3 - One of the other hikers took my charger (had it set up to charge my phone and writing pad thing). Went to the store to get new connectors and took me most the afternoon to get it done.
4 - My birthday, so I stayed the day to go white water kayaking. Found out my buddy back home shot himself. Great end to a good b-day......
5 - Adopted dog from shelter.
6 - Got the dog his rabies shot and bought a new tent from Uncle Johnny (Hubba-Hubba). Mailed the tent I just recieved back home.
7 - Did the 20 mile packless section and then got dropped off the next morning and started hiking with my new hiking buddy!
sheepdog
03-23-2011, 19:17
I posted this on another thread but I feel it deserves it's own.
Picture yourself in front of Uncle Johnny's. It is 7:45am. You have a little time to kill before the breakfast shuttle. You notice a Chinese Checkers board sitting outside on a picnic table. The same one you saw yesterday when you arrived. Figuring it is for guests use and enjoyment, you begin setting up the board for a new game. As you are doing this the manager, James, comes storming out of the office literally screaming and swearing at you, "What the F#@* are you doing? Why the F#*@ are you touching my game. Who the F$#@ said you could touch that? You must be a mother F#$@ing Whiteblazer. That's it isn't it? You're a God damned mother F$#@ing Whiteblazer.
This is exactly what happened about a week ago to a friend of mine hiking now. I will not speculate on James' sanity or level of intoxication. I just wanted to warn everyone. Uncle Johnny's is most definitely not a hiker friendly establishment.
I should also mention that when checking in my friend also purchased a 4oz canister of fuel for $4.99. That total was added to the $25 room charge. Sales tax was applied to that total and then room tax was applied to that total. My friend was in no mood to argue and simply gave james 2 twenties and checked in. He was not going to debate this point with someone who treats hikers as an inconveinience or annoyance rather than the reason he has a job to begin with. It was only a couple dollars. But paying room tax on canister fuel? And then paying tax on tax?
I implore everyone to avoid this establishment unless you like getting ripped off, nickle and dimed, and mistreated
I feel it's a shame that an otherwise nice hostel is ruined by the presence of such a disturbed, hateful individual
That ain't no way to treat a lady.
Feral Bill
03-23-2011, 19:28
Please don't refer to people who use prescription medication on private property as A holes. Many people have completely legitimate reasons to smoke medicinal cannabis. If a property owner wants to exclude guests who are on medication from his property, he should let people know before they rent a bunk that he doesn't respect patients civil rights. If a hiker has a prescription for the therapeutic use of cannabis, from a Dr. then he/she has the right to use it any time of day. Suggesting that someone can only take medications at night or in hiding is completely ignorant. Also if neighbors don't want to see something they shouldn't look, it isn't a property owners responsibility to block off views of his yard.
The use of medicinal cannabis by those who are legally prescribed it in their state of residence, while in another state which isn't an official medical marijuana state, is protected by a precedent setting Federal District court decision in New Mexico Aug 12, 2009. A Colorado man, who is legally prescribed cannabis by his Colorado doctor, was arrested for possession of Cannabis while visiting New Mexico, and then appealed it all the way to the Federal court. Precedent set by one Federal Court applies to the whole nation. I don't have access to Lexus Nexus right now, so I can't cite the case number, but this did happen.
Possesing weed remains a Federal crime in every state.
max patch
03-23-2011, 19:29
http://www.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1491
According to this site, there is a 60.46% chance that those hikers were legally prescribed by doctors.
Now there's a statistic pulled deep out of someones azz.
sheepdog
03-23-2011, 19:31
Please don't refer
.
I think it's spelled reefer. But I agree.
HoneyBear
03-23-2011, 19:58
I have no problem with any business owners dealing with problem guests how they see fit. There are stories every year about the Spikes and the Yukon Rasputons and people defecating in private pools and hostels etc.... This is not one of those stories
Again this assault was completely out of left field and unprovoked. James is becoming a threat to himself and others. If he keeps snapping like this there will come a time when he not just drives another customer away from ever returning there. One of these times in will come to a physical confrontation and someone, most likely James, will be injured, hospitalized or worse.. One of these times he will try ripping off a lawyer who will choose to file suit on principal. We are not talking about charging high prices. We are talking about him stealing from hikers, Uncle Johnny and Uncle Sam. One of these times he might just snap and drive the shuttle van off the bridge filled with hikers.
If you go to Erwin I suggest spending a few more bucks on a hotel or nearo in, get what you need to do done and hike a few miles out of town. It is simply not worth dealing with such a deranged, disturbed individual if you do not have to. James is in serious need of psychological help. I hope he gets it before we hear a story a lot worse than this one.
Slo-go'en
03-23-2011, 20:00
How did this go from a "didn't like my stay at Uncle J's" to a debate about reefer? Enough has been said on that subject.
max patch
03-23-2011, 20:09
Calling Mr Gator. Calling Mr Gator.
Alligator
03-23-2011, 20:57
When it comes to these anecdotes it would be better if the person telling the story was a witness to the event. This is especially true when it affects a proprietor's livelihood. Some time ago yet a different thread came up and UJ's was bashed for something that did not happen. Eventually it got sorted out. It helped that the person relaying the incident was on WB. Certainly it is fine to convey your experiences with business establishments. There are however two sides to every story. It is a lot harder to get to the facts when neither side is present. So at the very least, if someone has a story of particularly bad service, it might be better to let the affected person present the case so that he or she is available to answer questions. Not singling out any specific encounter here but in general. These types of threads very often go sour and a lot of it has to do with not being able to corroborate all the details.
There's a thread on Medical MJ (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=66785) in Straight Forward.