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mweinstone
04-15-2011, 17:30
like if maine got sick of our crap.

Soon Man
04-15-2011, 17:45
I have heard that Texas still has the option to become it's own country. Part of that whole Alamo outcome I think. We're probably stuck with Maine. :p

kayak karl
04-15-2011, 17:59
south jersey wants to leave north jersey, but north jersey has the trail and all our money:D

Second Half
04-15-2011, 18:11
I lost all respect for Canadians when they blew their chance to get rid of the Frenchies.

The Old Boot
04-15-2011, 18:41
I lost all respect for Canadians when they blew their chance to get rid of the Frenchies.


Me too!! :D:D:rolleyes:

john gault
04-15-2011, 18:44
We got our own group of frenchies, but I guess we do a better job of keepin' them hidden:eek:

berninbush
04-15-2011, 19:32
I have heard that Texas still has the option to become it's own country. Part of that whole Alamo outcome I think. We're probably stuck with Maine. :p

Urban legend. Texas tried seceding with the rest of the Confederacy, and that didn't turn out so well. There WAS a special provision when Texas joined the Union, but it was that Texas could choose to sub-divide into five states if it wanted. That right was never exercised. Texas just gave up part of its land to form New Mexico.

Rain Man
04-15-2011, 19:45
Most States were like my home state of South Carolina, and never hitched-up with the AT in the first place, thus gittin' it right from the git-go this time around and avoided signing up for a lifetime commitment, then later wanting to renege.

You know how it is with some States, "covenant marriages" are only for all the little people.

:)

WingedMonkey
04-15-2011, 20:31
Florida refused to be a part of this trail, built it's own and then was invaded by Yankees....AGAIN.
:sun

Bags4266
04-15-2011, 20:53
south jersey wants to leave north jersey, but north jersey has the trail and all our money:D

Oh? Please send me some type of link. Been here 50 yrs. and this is a first.

Hikerhead
04-15-2011, 21:02
The Harper's Ferry area is talking about going back to being a part of VA. No more 4 State Challenge if that happens. We'll I guess it could be the 4 States Minus One Challenge.

Cabin Fever
04-15-2011, 21:35
Florida refused to be a part of this trail, built it's own and then was invaded by Yankees....AGAIN.
:sun

When was the first time because it certainly wasn't the war of northern aggression? :banana:banana:banana

ChinMusic
04-15-2011, 21:43
The Harper's Ferry area is talking about going back to being a part of VA. No more 4 State Challenge if that happens. We'll I guess it could be the 4 States Minus One Challenge.
Nah, it would just be a MUCH tougher challenge.....

WingedMonkey
04-15-2011, 21:46
When was the first time because it certainly wasn't the war of northern aggression? :banana:banana:banana
then what were all them blue coats doing in Jacksonville?

:D

Joey C
04-15-2011, 22:27
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Tinker
04-15-2011, 22:49
like if maine got sick of our crap.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/secede

Just trying to help, Matty. :)

RI is it's own little world already. I think we're in danger of being kicked off of the mainland. :D

ChinMusic
04-15-2011, 22:55
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I think that was my physics lab partner back in the day......

Second Half
04-15-2011, 22:59
RI is it's own little world already. I think we're in danger of being kicked off of the mainland. :D

Nah, you have too much good seafood. We'll keep ya.

Tinker
04-15-2011, 23:06
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QUICK! Get someone who knows the Heimlich maneuver! :D

will1972
04-15-2011, 23:31
I have heard that Texas still has the option to become it's own country. Part of that whole Alamo outcome I think. We're probably stuck with Maine. :p
Not true, they are the only state to join the union under treaty. But there was a little skirmish about 150 years ago that proved our government would not allow them to leave. They did try to leave, ONCE!

Second Half
04-15-2011, 23:35
But there was a little skirmish about 150 years ago that proved our government would not allow them to leave. They did try to leave, ONCE!

Texas we'll keep.

Texans, on the other hand....

mweinstone
04-16-2011, 08:19
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mikec
04-16-2011, 09:53
There has been talk from time to time of northern VA seceding from the rest of the state. We send the bulk of the tax revenue to Richmond but don't get as much back. I haven't heard about the Harpers Ferry issue. The trail is federal property so I don't see this happening. If a war broke out over this, it could be called the A.T. War.

JackRyan
04-16-2011, 16:00
Urban legend. Texas tried seceding with the rest of the Confederacy, and that didn't turn out so well. There WAS a special provision when Texas joined the Union, but it was that Texas could choose to sub-divide into five states if it wanted. That right was never exercised. Texas just gave up part of its land to form New Mexico.


Not true, they are the only state to join the union under treaty. But there was a little skirmish about 150 years ago that proved our government would not allow them to leave. They did try to leave, ONCE!


Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.

mweinstone
04-16-2011, 16:04
what about PA? if we split do we keep the shelters?

ChinMusic
04-16-2011, 16:27
what about PA? if we split do we keep the shelters?
And the Pirates....

john gault
04-16-2011, 17:26
Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.
:-? Did she by chance call you on the first day of April?

The Texas state flag can be flown over the U.S. flag. Now that's funny:banana

kayak karl
04-16-2011, 18:01
Oh? Please send me some type of link. Been here 50 yrs. and this is a first.
this is a humor threard. but this is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNdtwrC4e7k&feature=related

JackRyan
04-17-2011, 00:24
:-? Did she by chance call you on the first day of April?

The Texas state flag can be flown over the U.S. flag. Now that's funny:banana


Haha no she didn't. But hey, it's what she was taught. Gotta love Our education system.

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04-18-2011, 07:01
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04-18-2011, 07:23
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flemdawg1
04-18-2011, 08:13
then what were all them blue coats doing in Jacksonville?

:D


Those were Michigan fans in town for the Gator Bowl. But the Mighty South (represented by the Miss State Bulldogs) beat their rear ends good (52-14).

berninbush
04-18-2011, 09:54
Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.

Texas did vote to leave the Union in 1861 along with the other Southern states, and they were forcibly brought back with the rest. The treaty that joined Texas to the US had no such provisions, or the Texas legislature would certainly have called upon them to justify their decision.

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm This is the best justification available for modern proponents of Texas secession. They admit that an explicit permission to secede was not included in the treaty of annexation, the Texas Constitution, or the US Constitution. Their argument is based solely on the fact that these documents do not explicitly forbid secession, and affirm the right of the people to "alter" their form of government if they are dissatisfied... the exact same right affirmed by the Declaration of Independence for all states. In my view, the right of Texas to secede is thus no more or less than the right of any state. You may believe all states have such a right, but Texas is not a "special" case just because of our unique history.

If your sister's professor is teaching that Texas has (or had) a right specifically recognized by the US government to secede with a 2/3 vote of the Texas legislature, the professor is either lamentably ignorant or pushing an agenda.

I will add that I personally am not entirely opposed to Texas secession if it could be accomplished peacefully and a good Texas government established.

4eyedbuzzard
04-18-2011, 12:15
There is no special flag code provision in the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas nor in the Ordinance of Annexation. Like any other state flag, under the US Flag Code, the Texas flag may be flown at or under the same height as the US Flag. If at the same height, it must be to the US flag's right (position of honor).

Texas Phlox
07-27-2011, 15:47
I know plenty of people here in Texas who would love to secede from the union. From what I have heard, and I know that it's just heresay, Texas could be almost self-sustaining. My GGGrandfather was in the battle of San Jacinto and like so many other Texans, I have that burning Texas pride. It is part of who we are. It's like a whole other country.

Sly
07-27-2011, 15:58
Western Mass has been invaded by New Yorkers, there goes another state.

mudhead
07-27-2011, 15:59
It is like a whole nother country. Almost like it had been annexed.

Texas Phlox
07-27-2011, 16:03
My grandparents had a little postcard they tacked on the wall, related to driving through Texas:

"The sun has ris', the sun has set, and here here we is, in Texas yet!

That just popped into my head.

I'm gimpy
07-27-2011, 19:55
Western Mass has been invaded by New Yorkers, there goes another state.

Thats been lost for years!

DavidNH
07-27-2011, 23:45
If Texas wants to seceed from the US.. I'd be only too happy to see them go. allow me to hold the door open for ya boys.. here's a little shove to make leavin' easier! America's a better place without ya!