hikerboys cyber cafe

[atmilkman]

i have to work today

No no not today.

[rocketsocks]

Any ideas.nothins ringin a bell.

[atmilkman]

No no not today.

It's Sunday.

[atmilkman]

It's Sunday.

Are you having a sale?

[illabelle]

Any ideas.

my name has always been a problem. i've been spelling it and pronouncing it as long as i can remember.

i don't like "Illa", but "Belle" is ok.
it's not the number of syllables, it's the 9 letters.
you could shorten it by eliminating the unnecessary ones: ilabel, which looks weird, like "I label".

i still don't have a trail name. :(

[atmilkman]

A 4th of July sale.

[rocketsocks]

glad she stuck around and didn't go belly up

[atmilkman]

ill?????????

Hmmmm........

[illabelle]

my name has always been a problem. i've been spelling it and pronouncing it as long as i can remember.

i don't like "Illa", but "Belle" is ok.
it's not the number of syllables, it's the 9 letters.
you could shorten it by eliminating the unnecessary ones: ilabel, which looks weird, like "I label".

i still don't have a trail name. :(

or you could just get excessive: illllllllllllllllllllllabellllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllle

[atmilkman]

or you could just get excessive: illllllllllllllllllllllabellllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllle

Hmmmm.....

[atmilkman]

Hmmmm.....
I think I'm gonna use hmm... a lot.

[atmilkman]

I think I'm gonna use hmm... a lot.

Could be used after everytime somebody posts

[illabelle]

the chores! the chores! i've gotta go do my chores!
dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, wild turkeys, breakfast, housework, garden, mow,

Edit:
WB, dogs, WB, cats, WB, chickens, WB, ducks, WB, wild turkeys, WB, breakfast, h WB o WB u WB s WB e WB w WB o WB r WB k, garden, WBWBWBWB mow,

[atmilkman]

Hmmm......

[Driver8]

of course your guidebook expertise trumps my real life experience.presi traverse is possible in a day too. just not much fun and a very long day.theres a pic or 2 of the howker ridge trail in my gallery.

Right, since I've never hiked in the Presidential Range and don't know how to read a map or Google Earth, and extrapolation and induction are meaningless - all knowledge and insight must be obtained solely from physical contact with a given stretch of land.

You know Rasty's a lot fitter and more skilled than the average hiker here, Andy, and his idea of "fun" won't jibe up with yours or mine. What part of "he hiked up Tuckerman Ravine, off trail, with snow and ice in April" did you miss? Was that in a guidebook?

[atmilkman]

Hmmm......
When I do that I'm just thinking.

[atmilkman]

When I do that I'm just thinking.

Nothing is burning.

[atmilkman]

the chores! the chores! i've gotta go do my chores!
dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, wild turkeys, breakfast, housework, garden, mow,

Edit:
WB, dogs, WB, cats, WB, chickens, WB, ducks, WB, wild turkeys, WB, breakfast, h WB o WB u WB s WB e WB w WB o WB r WB k, garden, WBWBWBWB mow,

I guess you better get your butt blazed. I mean blazin'.

[atmilkman]

Have ya'll had breakfast yet?

[rocketsocks]

the chores! the chores! i've gotta go do my chores!
dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, wild turkeys, breakfast, housework, garden, mow,

Edit:
WB, dogs, WB, cats, WB, chickens, WB, ducks, WB, wild turkeys, WB, breakfast, h WB o WB u WB s WB e WB w WB o WB r WB k, garden, WBWBWBWB mow,drinking before breakfast is generally thought of as early.

[atmilkman]

Who's hungry.

[atmilkman]

Who's hungry.

Where's Coach?

[atmilkman]

Where's Coach?

Let's talk food.

[rocketsocks]

Right, since I've never hiked in the Presidential Range and don't know how to read a map or Google Earth, and extrapolation and induction are meaningless - all knowledge and insight must be obtained solely from physical contact with a given stretch of land.

You know Rasty's a lot fitter and more skilled than the average hiker here, Andy, and his idea of "fun" won't jibe up with yours or mine. What part of "he hiked up Tuckerman Ravine, off trail, with snow and ice in April" did you miss? Was that in a guidebook?He's lucky he didn't fall in a crevasse and die...his wife would have killed him.

[atmilkman]

drinking before breakfast is generally thought of as early.

Whew. Wild Turkey for breakfast.

[rocketsocks]

Have ya'll had breakfast yet?
headin there now

[illabelle]

drinking before breakfast is generally thought of as early.

LOL
I'm not a drinker, so I wouldn't have understood that without the bold print. :)

[rocketsocks]

Whew. Wild Turkey for breakfast.I use to put it on my cheerio's

[atmilkman]

headin there now

Whatcha gonna have?

[hikerboy57]

Right, since I've never hiked in the Presidential Range and don't know how to read a map or Google Earth, and extrapolation and induction are meaningless - all knowledge and insight must be obtained solely from physical contact with a given stretch of land.

You know Rasty's a lot fitter and more skilled than the average hiker here, Andy, and his idea of "fun" won't jibe up with yours or mine. What part of "he hiked up Tuckerman Ravine, off trail, with snow and ice in April" did you miss? Was that in a guidebook?
what part of i hiked with rasty through the smokies did you miss?ive hiked those trails, driver. its like pushing through the mahoosucs in 3 days. it can be done, but its a whole lot more fun if you dont have to push and do it in 4. what youve been suggesting is a very long hard day. of course its doable, but a lot more fun as an overnight in those ravines.and the way the weather has been ,t-storms can definitely be an issue.theyre in the forecast.

[rocketsocks]

Whatcha gonna have?
I'm thinkin biscuits and gravy

[atmilkman]

I'm thinkin biscuits and gravy
There ya go.

[atmilkman]

I had bacon and eggs yesterday. I only get them once a week, not hikin' and all.

[atmilkman]

I had bacon and eggs yesterday. I only get them once a week, not hikin' and all.

Same with biscuits and gravy. I can only have one big breakfast a week.

[atmilkman]

Same with biscuits and gravy. I can only have one big breakfast a week.

Can't wait to get my new knees.

[hikerboy57]

Can't wait to get my new knees.
make sure they give you a warranty

[atmilkman]

make sure they give you a warranty

I want at least 50,000 miles unlimited time.

[BirdBrain]

my name has always been a problem. i've been spelling it and pronouncing it as long as i can remember.

i don't like "Illa", but "Belle" is ok.
it's not the number of syllables, it's the 9 letters.
you could shorten it by eliminating the unnecessary ones: ilabel, which looks weird, like "I label".

i still don't have a trail name. :(

I think IB is the most logical. However, she seems to like the L's in her name. How about just the last 2 and call her LL?

[BirdBrain]

or you could just get excessive: illllllllllllllllllllllabellllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllle

See what I mean?

[BirdBrain]

If she was a good bean, I could pretend she is from Maine.

[BirdBrain]

And to make it 4

[BirdBrain]

I think IB is the most logical. However, she seems to like the L's in her name. How about just the last 2 and call her LL?

Maybe she likes her 1st 2 L's. Maybe we could pick two at random. Okay... I will be honest. She has 4 L's in her name and you know how much I like the number 4. I am calling her LL.

[BirdBrain]

Is is my turn to fill up a page?

[BirdBrain]

It appears I missed Astro's departure.

[atmilkman]

I think IB is the most logical. However, she seems to like the L's in her name. How about just the last 2 and call her LL?

IB is totally out of the question, for reasons that can't be discussed.

[BirdBrain]

It is a good thing we are getting new blood. Some of us are going to be on the trail and the Café needs the help.

[BirdBrain]

IB is totally out of the question, for reasons that can't be discussed.

I gathered that. I vote LL. Please someone agree. I really like LL. She likes her L's. Did I mention there are 4 L's in her name?

[atmilkman]

It is a good thing we are getting new blood. Some of us are going to be on the trail and the Café needs the help.
I hope she know her character is gonna be in jeopardy.

[BirdBrain]

I like the new Café additions.

[BirdBrain]

I hope she know her character is gonna be in jeopardy.

We have character? I am doing it all wrong again.

[atmilkman]

I gathered that. I vote LL. Please someone agree. I really like LL. She likes her L's. Did I mention there are 4 L's in her name?

HB voted for Ill. She could become that after a while or at times.

[BirdBrain]

I have to run... er... walk.

[illabelle]

Maybe she likes her 1st 2 L's. Maybe we could pick two at random. Okay... I will be honest. She has 4 L's in her name and you know how much I like the number 4. I am calling her LL.

You know that won't work. Somebody new will see my user name, and they'll see LL in something you write, and they won't be able to follow the conversation.
But, hey I've been answering to Lulabelle, Dumbbell, and other variations all my life, so I will answer to LL also, or whatever you decide to use. I probably shouldn't be called Tinkerbelle - my daughter has laid claim to that one.

Really, IB does make the most sense, but I realize there's that Irish guy...

Maybe I could be IB2? or IBL? ILB works pretty good.

[atmilkman]

HB voted for Ill. She could become that after a while or at times.

In the South that doesn't necessarily sick.

[BirdBrain]

HB voted for Ill. She could become that after a while or at times.

Nah. Drop the I. There is no "I" in Café. Besides, ATM, we have a 2 letter abbreviation rule. Hehehehe....

[atmilkman]

You know that won't work. Somebody new will see my user name, and they'll see LL in something you write, and they won't be able to follow the conversation.
But, hey I've been answering to Lulabelle, Dumbbell, and other variations all my life, so I will answer to LL also, or whatever you decide to use. I probably shouldn't be called Tinkerbelle - my daughter has laid claim to that one.

Really, IB does make the most sense, but I realize there's that Irish guy...

Maybe I could be IB2? or IBL? ILB works pretty good.

I like ILB.

[atmilkman]

Hey ILB. How it goin'?

[Driver8]

what part of i hiked with rasty through the smokies did you miss?

Um, none of it. I enjoyed reading about your and his and others' hikes. Maybe you missed that.


ive hiked those trails, driver. its like pushing through the mahoosucs in 3 days. it can be done, but its a whole lot more fun if you dont have to push and do it in 4. what youve been suggesting is a very long hard day.

You also evidently missed, in my first post responding to Rasty's query, that these hikes would be "stern tests." Does that mean anything to you? The fact that you've hiked those hikes, and I have not, does not entitle you to ridicule my suggestions, which are more than reasonable, given the target audience. It's just mindlessly reactionary and pointless on your part. Every time I make a suggestion or observation about a hike you've done and that I've only read about to date, having hiked something nearby, does not call for you to weigh in about that as if lording it over me and about how there's no way anything I say about the subject can have value and only your insight merits consideration. It's bullying, and I won't tolerate it.

I think people are aware - certainly Rasty is - that I've been hiking frequently for only a few years and have done a dozen hikes in the Whites and that you have a ton of hiking experience, in the Whites and elsewhere. We don't need to be beaten upside the head with that every time I make a suggestion or comment. Your insistence on harping on it is remarkable, to put it kindly.

Rasty's a smart and capable guy, he can figure out what hike will work for him, will be fun for him. He doesn't need to be dictacted to. I agree with you that the forecasts are a concern, almost mentioned it myself, but I figured he can and will check that for himself.

[BirdBrain]

You know that won't work. Somebody new will see my user name, and they'll see LL in something you write, and they won't be able to follow the conversation.
But, hey I've been answering to Lulabelle, Dumbbell, and other variations all my life, so I will answer to LL also, or whatever you decide to use. I probably shouldn't be called Tinkerbelle - my daughter has laid claim to that one.

Really, IB does make the most sense, but I realize there's that Irish guy...

Maybe I could be IB2? or IBL? ILB works pretty good.

You will see some people call me .177. People in the Café like the hidden meanings. It is a game. It is very important that you like your name. So, pull up a stool and tell us what you are comfortable with.

[hikerboy57]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.

[BirdBrain]

I like ILB.

I didn't know IB's middle name was L.

[BirdBrain]

Okay. I have done enough damage. Gotta' run before my better half hurts me..... again. :)

[BirdBrain]

But before I do.....

[BirdBrain]

And to make it 4.

[hikerboy57]

You will see some people call me .177. People in the Café like the hidden meanings. It is a game. It is very important that you like your name. So, pull up a stool and tell us what you are comfortable with.
i think driver has a few names for me right now.

[atmilkman]

And to make it 4.

Thanks for the count cause.

[illabelle]

I gathered that. I vote LL. Please someone agree. I really like LL. She likes her L's. Did I mention there are 4 L's in her name?

And why BB, do you like the number 4?

By the way, I actually have 7 sets of double letters in my full name. Don't really wanna write it out in a public forum, but I have all the following, in order:
LL, LL, RR, TT, BB, TT, EE
It's probably a world record or something.
So maybe we should incorporate some doubles....
IILLBB? no
ILLB? maybe

[illabelle]

Ok, so the rules are that is has to be 2 letters, and it has to be really important that I like it. but we can't go with IB because of the Irishman.
Alright, I'm thinking...

[atmilkman]

And why BB, do you like the number 4?

By the way, I actually have 7 sets of double letters in my full name. Don't really wanna write it out in a public forum, but I have all the following, in order:
LL, LL, RR, TT, BB, TT, EE
It's probably a world record or something.
So maybe we should incorporate some doubles....
IILLBB? no
ILLB? maybe

That's pretty neat. I got 8's in my mix. I was born on the 8th day of the 8th month and I weighed 8lbs. 8oz. first thing mom noticed on the birth certificate was all the 8's. Glad it wasn't 6's.

[hikerboy57]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.
n and west of madison and adams gets the main thrust of t storm activity in july, so its usually prudent to plan on being below treeline by 3pm. this would be difficult with the trails youve mentioned.its not bullying. i speak from experience and you do not.not every day hike necessarily needs to be a survival test. that you brought up those trails triggered a suggestion for some loops ideas using the link trail where he wouldnt have to worry about beating the clock and making miles over very tricky terrain.rasty's as capable as i am.one of my favorite hikes was up the amphibranch to kings ravine and then up the grat gully to thunderstorm junction, then over to madison. i started from appalachia at 8am, got to madison hut around 3.minimally 4 hrs back to appalachia, regardless of the route. thats a long day.id rather overnight.but you're right. rasty can make his own decisions. hes pracrically a grown up

[illabelle]

That's pretty neat. I got 8's in my mix. I was born on the 8th day of the 8th month and I weighed 8lbs. 8oz. first thing mom noticed on the birth certificate was all the 8's. Glad it wasn't 6's.

8 is a cool number. I like 6 too, cuz it's sorta pretty and feminine when written by hand. But numerically, 8 is a better number, 2^3 and all that stuff.

[atmilkman]

Ok, so the rules are that is has to be 2 letters, and it has to be really important that I like it. but we can't go with IB because of the Irishman.
Alright, I'm thinking...

No rules just right. It's all right (good). Looking for a short reference, easy to recognize.

[BirdBrain]

Ok, so the rules are that is has to be 2 letters, and it has to be really important that I like it. but we can't go with IB because of the Irishman.
Alright, I'm thinking...

There are no rules. This is the Café. My comment was tongue in cheek. Notice I called ATM ATM?

[illabelle]

Cafe post #63.
I think I'll reach 100 before the end of the day, and I'll pass the notable LW before Wed midnight.

[atmilkman]

8 is a cool number. I like 6 too, cuz it's sorta pretty and feminine when written by hand. But numerically, 8 is a better number, 2^3 and all that stuff.

You gotta be careful with that stuff around here. (We got some fanatics if you know what I mean)

[illabelle]

No rules just right. It's all right (good). Looking for a short reference, easy to recognize.

Well, then the most logical will be either/both ILB and IBL. Since I've got Ls all over the place, people will use both abbreviations.

[Driver8]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.

I don't make my suggestions based "just on what I read." I have, as you well know, hiked paths near those - do you understand the meaning of "induction" and "extrapolation," or did Pepe erase those from your hard drive? My suggestions, couched as stern tests, as you tacitly admit, were well within reason, given the target audience, and your response was pointlessly mean and uncalled for. It's a pattern with you, and I won't tolerate such treatment, certainly not when it's repeated.

You enjoy making jibes about lawyers when you and I disagree, should I gratuitously swipe at car salesmen?

[atmilkman]

Well, then the most logical will be either/both ILB and IBL. Since I've got Ls all over the place, people will use both abbreviations.

Works for me ILB. And that rhymes. I'm gonna use it a lot. Remember I coined it.

[illabelle]

Works for me ILB. And that rhymes. I'm gonna use it a lot. Remember I coined it.

Alrighty then!

[illabelle]

Works for me ILB. And that rhymes. I'm gonna use it a lot. Remember I coined it.

And now you get to explain why you're the milkman of the AT.

[atmilkman]

Alrighty then!

Works for me ILB.

[atmilkman]

Works for me ILB.

I'll stop now.

[atmilkman]

I'll stop now.
Save it for special occasions.

[atmilkman]

Save it for special occasions.

Don't want to wear it out.

[illabelle]

You gotta be careful with that stuff around here. (We got some fanatics if you know what I mean)

Oooooh yes, I think I do know. I've heard about those kind. Will definitely steer clear of that!

[atmilkman]

And now you get to explain why you're the milkman of the AT.

I just go by milkman but milkman by itself was taken so I added the a.t. because of this website. How I got the name is a different story.

[BirdBrain]

i think driver has a few names for me right now.

Oh.... Oh.... Can I play too? hiker"boy"?

[illabelle]

How I got the name is a different story.

I'm listening.
Well, actually I'm eating my breakfast, but go ahead and tell.

[atmilkman]

Oh.... Oh.... Can I play too? hiker"boy"?

Remember what happened last time.

[BirdBrain]

And why BB, do you like the number 4?

It is an OCD thing. I have learned to embrace the flaws I cannot change. I try my best to work on the flaws I can. I do not know where it came from. I am stuck with it, so I laugh at it.

[max patch]

You enjoy making jibes about lawyers when you and I disagree, should I gratuitously swipe at car salesmen?

Well, at least car salesmen provide a useful to service to me about every 10 years or so.

[BirdBrain]

Alrighty then!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1lrwIzVJSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1lrwIzVJSw

[hikerboy57]

I don't make my suggestions based "just on what I read." I have, as you well know, hiked paths near those - do you understand the meaning of "induction" and "extrapolation," or did Pepe erase those from your hard drive? My suggestions, couched as stern tests, as you tacitly admit, were well within reason, given the target audience, and your response was pointlessly mean and uncalled for. It's a pattern with you, and I won't tolerate such treatment, certainly not when it's repeated.

You enjoy making jibes about lawyers when you and I disagree, should I gratuitously swipe at car salesmen?
1- i have little or no understanding of words containing more than 7 letters.
2- i avoid making suggestions on hiking not based on personal experience.
3-i dont like drama.
4- you have an option- you can place me on ignore.
there- 4
make all the car saleman jokes you like-theyre jokes. words. just words.and if theyre funny, i laugh.stop with the persecution complex.

[BirdBrain]

I agree ATM, ILB is the best.

[hikerboy57]

Oh.... Oh.... Can I play too? hiker"boy"?
just dont call me late for dinner

[BirdBrain]

1- i have little or no understanding of words containing more than 7 letters.
2- i avoid making suggestions on hiking not based on personal experience.
3-i dont like drama.
4- you have an option- you can place me on ignore.
there- 4
make all the car saleman jokes you like-theyre jokes. words. just words.and if theyre funny, i laugh.stop with the persecution complex.

Good job. 4 it is. Let's talk about 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uOR0p7L3Ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uOR0p7L3Ew

[Water Rat]

Any ideas.

What about Stat Master? She is awesome with her stats... :D

[BirdBrain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVG6o7RuHI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVG6o7RuHI

[atmilkman]

I'm listening.
Well, actually I'm eating my breakfast, but go ahead and tell.

I'll try and make it short and sweet. Milk used to be and still is and will be again the last thing I drink before getting on the trail and the first thing I get when I get off. We were hiking a lot in our early marriage in and around the Georgia section of the AT. I'd say to my wife, I gotta get a milk before we go cause I ain't gonna get any till we get back. We'd get back and it would be the first I'd get. One time we were coming in and I was going on and on ( I guess) about how I'm gonna get a milk as soon as we get to town. My wife says "will you shut up about your damn milk. You ain't nothing but a big milk baby. In fact that's what I'm gonna call you. Milk baby. Milk baby, milk baby, milk baby". And that's what it was for the longest time. Then it eventually evolved into milkman.

[BirdBrain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-_m2_wolek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-_m2_wolek

[BirdBrain]

And the best for 4th.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODJ-AAmCM-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODJ-AAmCM-A

[BirdBrain]

2lbs = 4 x 4oz.

[atmilkman]

Oooooh yes, I think I do know. I've heard about those kind. Will definitely steer clear of that!

I told ya so.

[BirdBrain]

2lbs = 4 x 4oz.

Waiting for the corrections. My work is done here... this morning. I must be moving on.

[atmilkman]

Waiting for the corrections. My work is done here... this morning. I must be moving on.

Okay, but this is the last time. 4 x 4oz = 16oz. 16oz = 1 pound.

[hikerboy57]

Well, at least car salesmen provide a useful to service to me about every 10 years or so.glad i dont have to make a living depending on you. i need you to buy a car every 2 or three years.
can i tell you about the benefits of leasing?

[atmilkman]

glad i dont have to make a living depending on you. i need you to buy a car every 2 or three years.
can i tell you about the benefits of leasing?

You sound like Verizon. New every two.

[illabelle]

cute song, loved the Forrest Gump reference.

[coach lou]

10 Pages this morning......GO GO GO GO :banana

[coach lou]

I have to go to Walmart......lookin' for that Permethrin stuff..........we are all going to get eatin' up over the next 2 weeks.....in the Northeast!

[atmilkman]

10 Pages this morning......GO GO GO GO :banana
Hey Coach I see where you got 44444. This post gives me 5000. Show me the money.

[hikerboy57]

Hey Coach I see where you got 44444. This post gives me 5000. Show me the money.
no money, but ill save you $5000 off the price of a new chevy tahoe

[atmilkman]

no money, but ill save you $5000 off the price of a new chevy tahoe

You know that once you go Cadillac you can never go back.

[atmilkman]

no money, but ill save you $5000 off the price of a new chevy tahoe

Get me a deal on "The Beast".

[atmilkman]

Get me a deal on "The Beast".

Yellow Bembo brakes.

[atmilkman]

Yellow Bembo brakes.

Recaro seats.

[atmilkman]

Recaro seats.

G meter....

[hikerboy57]

gotta guy coming in today to buy a camaro zl1 convertible-victory red, black top/blk, 580hp carbon fibre hood. i drove it yesterday from our storage lot . maaaan, that car is meeeeeeaannn!!

[hikerboy57]

http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/7/3/p/2/ag_13zl1conv_frtlt1.JPG

[atmilkman]

gotta guy coming in today to buy a camaro zl1 convertible-victory red, black top/blk, 580hp carbon fibre hood. i drove it yesterday from our storage lot . maaaan, that car is meeeeeeaannn!!

I love them things. Every time I see one I tell Shellie them things are MEAN.

[atmilkman]

Let me guess. You ain't eatin' hot dogs tonite.

[Rasty]

king ravine is not a very easy day hike, neither is castle ravine although they are both awesome trails.great gully trail is cool too with a couple hairy scrambles. valley way happens to be pretty nice,views are great but so is the forest but i really love the amphibranch trail as an alternative to valley way. anyway those ravine trails are best done as an overnight to either madison hut or one of the rmc camps like the perch or crag camp. they are all difficult trails and steep.
there are some nice loops you can do out of appalachia. some nice falls, and a bit less travelled than franconia and the presis

True for most hikers, but I factored in that it's Rasty, who went up Tuck's, off trail, with spring snow and ice. I reckon he could get up any of those and down an easier route such as Airline or Howker Ridge, easier being a relative term, in a day without a problem.

Rasty: King Ravine features a snow cave which, from what I read, is like the snow deep in the boulders you get in Mahoosuc Notch. Not, from what I hear, a hiking hazard, just something cool to see in early July. It is a notoriously difficult route, which seems to be right down your alley. Lots of scrambling moves and steep pitches.

That could be fun.

[illabelle]

I'll try and make it short and sweet. Milk used to be and still is and will be again the last thing I drink before getting on the trail and the first thing I get when I get off. We were hiking a lot in our early marriage in and around the Georgia section of the AT. I'd say to my wife, I gotta get a milk before we go cause I ain't gonna get any till we get back. We'd get back and it would be the first I'd get. One time we were coming in and I was going on and on ( I guess) about how I'm gonna get a milk as soon as we get to town. My wife says "will you shut up about your damn milk. You ain't nothing but a big milk baby. In fact that's what I'm gonna call you. Milk baby. Milk baby, milk baby, milk baby". And that's what it was for the longest time. Then it eventually evolved into milkman.

That is a very sweet story!

[atmilkman]

That is a very sweet story!

Thank you. But we gotta be careful. They'll tell us to get a room.

[Sarcasm the elf]

He he he...

I heard this story on the radio, then decided to find an article about it, first google hit was snopes:

:banana:banana:banana
Claim: A food writer lapsed into a butter-induced coma after consuming 413 Red Lobster biscuits.


Status: FALSE




Example: [The Mirror, June 2013]


A food writer trying to beat a restaurant’s customer record of scoffing hundreds of butter-rich cakes failed — and slipped into a COMA.


He was rushed to hospital in Little Rock, Arkansas, after consuming 413 Cheddar Bay Biscuits from the Red Lobster restaurant.


Doctors confirm that he slipped into a coma shortly after being admitted into the emergency room.


[Rest of article here.]



Origins: This item about food writer Kevin Shalin, who supposedly slipped into a coma after consuming 413 Cheddar Bay Biscuits from Red Lobster, was picked up and run as straight news by a number of news sites in June 2013, including the UK's Daily Star and Daily Mirror, and Canada's Globe and Mail.


Apparently none of those news outlets found the tale of a man who reportedly ate 413 biscuits and the "equivalent of 51.5 sticks of butter"




all in one sitting, then lapsed into a coma caused by "butter from the biscuits blocking signals coming from [his] brain" until doctors "drained approximately 2 gallons of butter" from his system, questionable enough to do anything but take it at face value and reprint it as true.


A minimal amount of checking would have revealed the source of this story to be a 22 June 2013 article ("Local Man in Coma After Eating 413 Red Lobster Biscuits") published by Rock City Times, a satirical web site that bills itself as "Arkansas 2nd most unreliable news source" and carries a disclaimer on its opening page stating that "The content on here is presented as fictional news with an intent for humor."


The Globe and Mail, at least, published a correction which included comments from the spoof article's author:
"I'm just kind of surprised," Greg Henderson, the author of the Rock City Times article, said.


"I think people are extremely gullible. It's kind of sad actually that that many people thought it was a real story."


"I like to throw some underlying message behind just about everything I write," he said.


"Obviously Americans are overeaters and I think that's always just kind of the big joke," he said, "and so I kind of wanted to say, 'Well how can I take that aspect of it to the extreme?'"

The Rock City Times then satirized the issue with a follow-up article entitled "British Tabloid The Daily Mirror Outsources Writing to Arkansas Satire News Sites":
The British tabloid The Daily Mirror announced this weekend that they will begin outsourcing the bulk of their content writing to satire news sites based out of Arkansas. The move comes as the tabloid faces declining viewership and poor journalism standards from existing staff.


The Daily Mirror expects to complete the full transition to the new writers by the end of the month. They did acknowledge that some of the stories may seem far fetched, like a man eating 413 Red Lobster biscuits, but they promise as long as the stories seem even remotely plausible they will publish the stories.
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[Rasty]

Any ideas.

my name has always been a problem. i've been spelling it and pronouncing it as long as i can remember.

i don't like "Illa", but "Belle" is ok.
it's not the number of syllables, it's the 9 letters.
you could shorten it by eliminating the unnecessary ones: ilabel, which looks weird, like "I label".

i still don't have a trail name. :(

I Label is as good a name as anything else! Welcome to the cafe Label! :D

[Rasty]

of course your guidebook expertise trumps my real life experience.presi traverse is possible in a day too. just not much fun and a very long day.theres a pic or 2 of the howker ridge trail in my gallery.

Right, since I've never hiked in the Presidential Range and don't know how to read a map or Google Earth, and extrapolation and induction are meaningless - all knowledge and insight must be obtained solely from physical contact with a given stretch of land.

You know Rasty's a lot fitter and more skilled than the average hiker here, Andy, and his idea of "fun" won't jibe up with yours or mine. What part of "he hiked up Tuckerman Ravine, off trail, with snow and ice in April" did you miss? Was that in a guidebook?

In a counter argument HB and I have hiked together for a solid week. Please don't let this stop a good argument though. I need to be entertained. :)

[illabelle]

I Label is as good a name as anything else! Welcome to the cafe Label! :D

Welcome? Dude, with 70 Cafe posts, I'm almost an old-timer! :p

[Rasty]

Right, since I've never hiked in the Presidential Range and don't know how to read a map or Google Earth, and extrapolation and induction are meaningless - all knowledge and insight must be obtained solely from physical contact with a given stretch of land.

You know Rasty's a lot fitter and more skilled than the average hiker here, Andy, and his idea of "fun" won't jibe up with yours or mine. What part of "he hiked up Tuckerman Ravine, off trail, with snow and ice in April" did you miss? Was that in a guidebook?He's lucky he didn't fall in a crevasse and die...his wife would have killed him.

She checks the life insurance policy before I go, then gets a huge smile and says have fun dear!

[Rasty]

my name has always been a problem. i've been spelling it and pronouncing it as long as i can remember.

i don't like "Illa", but "Belle" is ok.
it's not the number of syllables, it's the 9 letters.
you could shorten it by eliminating the unnecessary ones: ilabel, which looks weird, like "I label".

i still don't have a trail name. :(

I think IB is the most logical. However, she seems to like the L's in her name. How about just the last 2 and call her LL?

L.L. Belle?

[Rasty]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.

I read that the New Malibu is a good car somewhere. :D

[Rasty]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.
n and west of madison and adams gets the main thrust of t storm activity in july, so its usually prudent to plan on being below treeline by 3pm. this would be difficult with the trails youve mentioned.its not bullying. i speak from experience and you do not.not every day hike necessarily needs to be a survival test. that you brought up those trails triggered a suggestion for some loops ideas using the link trail where he wouldnt have to worry about beating the clock and making miles over very tricky terrain.rasty's as capable as i am.one of my favorite hikes was up the amphibranch to kings ravine and then up the grat gully to thunderstorm junction, then over to madison. i started from appalachia at 8am, got to madison hut around 3.minimally 4 hrs back to appalachia, regardless of the route. thats a long day.id rather overnight.but you're right. rasty can make his own decisions. hes pracrically a grown up

I hate it when my two daddies argue!

[Rasty]

I'm simply suggesting you make your suggestions based on your experiences and not just from what you read.

I don't make my suggestions based "just on what I read." I have, as you well know, hiked paths near those - do you understand the meaning of "induction" and "extrapolation," or did Pepe erase those from your hard drive? My suggestions, couched as stern tests, as you tacitly admit, were well within reason, given the target audience, and your response was pointlessly mean and uncalled for. It's a pattern with you, and I won't tolerate such treatment, certainly not when it's repeated.

You enjoy making jibes about lawyers when you and I disagree, should I gratuitously swipe at car salesmen?

There a Lawyer meets Car Salesman joke here somewhere. I may need some assistance from the cafe on this one.

[illabelle]

L.L. Belle?

I think we finally settled on ILB and/or IBL, cuz people will do it both ways.
First one kinda reminds me of the I'LLB (or whatever that is) on the next to last line.


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[Rasty]

I Label is as good a name as anything else! Welcome to the cafe Label! :D

Welcome? Dude, with 70 Cafe posts, I'm almost an old-timer! :p

I had 70 posts once!

[illabelle]

I had 70 posts once!

In just a day or two, I've moved up from dead last to #34 in the Cafe.
I see that you're #4. That's quite an accomplishment. You must be proud.

[illabelle]

gonna load up the page with some more junk ...

[illabelle]

then go load up the dishwasher ...

[illabelle]

and maybe clean out the refrigerator ...

[illabelle]

and the freezer

[illabelle]

but I'll be back ...

[max patch]

There a Lawyer meets Car Salesman joke here somewhere. I may need some assistance from the cafe on this one.

I'll get it started...

A Brooklyn lawyer, a used car salesman and a banker were gathered by a coffin containing the body of an old friend. In his grief, one of the three said, "In my family, we have a custom of giving the dead some money, so they?ll have something to spend over there."They all agreed that this was appropriate. The banker dropped a hundred dollar bill into the casket, and the car salesman did the same. The lawyer took out the bills and wrote a check for $300.

[Rasty]

I had 70 posts once!

In just a day or two, I've moved up from dead last to #34 in the Cafe.
I see that you're #4. That's quite an accomplishment. You must be proud.

Used to be 2nd but I'm semi-retired from the cafe now.

[Rasty]

There a Lawyer meets Car Salesman joke here somewhere. I may need some assistance from the cafe on this one.

I'll get it started...

A Brooklyn lawyer, a used car salesman and a banker were gathered by a coffin containing the body of an old friend. In his grief, one of the three said, "In my family, we have a custom of giving the dead some money, so they?ll have something to spend over there."They all agreed that this was appropriate. The banker dropped a hundred dollar bill into the casket, and the car salesman did the same. The lawyer took out the bills and wrote a check for $300.

Love it!..
.

[max patch]

This is for atmilkman. Everyone one else can just skip ahead.

http://taylorswifties.webs.com/photos/Taylor-In-Popular-Ads/Milk.jpg

[mweinstone]

Beware the laundrymat candy machine
her nuts are salty
and her crackers stale

[atmilkman]

This is for atmilkman. Everyone one else can just skip ahead.

http://taylorswifties.webs.com/photos/Taylor-In-Popular-Ads/Milk.jpg

Do you really think they're all gonna skip ahead?

[rocketsocks]

Tried to catch up...off to a party, had oats for breakfast, I like Memphis belle, good joke max, pretty good argument, hope it continues later...but not really...cheers

[rocketsocks]

Tried to catch up...off to a party, had oats for breakfast, I like Memphis belle, good joke max, pretty good argument, hope it continues later...but not really...cheersoh...and someone tell Talor she's got a milk mustache.

[Rasty]

Beware the laundrymat candy machine
her nuts are salty
and her crackers stale

Who doesn't like salty nuts?

[coach lou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJdNPiWZzQ

I love this guy:D

[illabelle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJdNPiWZzQ

I love this guy:D

Just had to send a link to my husband. He has an auto repair shop (not sales), and I'm sure he'll appreciate this! The wiggle room part was great!

[Driver8]

I'll get it started...

A Brooklyn lawyer, a used car salesman and a banker were gathered by a coffin containing the body of an old friend. In his grief, one of the three said, "In my family, we have a custom of giving the dead some money, so they?ll have something to spend over there."They all agreed that this was appropriate. The banker dropped a hundred dollar bill into the casket, and the car salesman did the same. The lawyer took out the bills and wrote a check for $300.

Nice one!!!

[coach lou]

Just had to send a link to my husband. He has an auto repair shop (not sales), and I'm sure he'll appreciate this! The wiggle room part was great!

HB57 has the honor of bringing those gems to the Cafe'

[Driver8]

In a counter argument HB and I have hiked together for a solid week. Please don't let this stop a good argument though. I need to be entertained. :)

He's just trying to wangle you into buying a four-wheeler to take up that route. ...

Meanwhile, I've got other fish to fry today. Peace out, all.

[Rasty]

In a counter argument HB and I have hiked together for a solid week. Please don't let this stop a good argument though. I need to be entertained. :)

He's just trying to wangle you into buying a four-wheeler to take up that route. ...

Meanwhile, I've got other fish to fry today. Peace out, all.

The cafe is a Union Shop. Frying fish is my job.

[Rasty]

Looks like rain and scattered thunderstorms on Monday. Maybe try and hike lower. Thoreau Falls, Ethan Pond, Zealand Falls, etc as a loop. The rain should 86 the tourists.

[illabelle]

seems no one is around, so maybe i'll sneak a page in ...

[illabelle]

will 45000 be reachable by the end of the day??

[illabelle]

so what shall i fix for supper tonight?

[illabelle]

i just love talking to myself!

[illabelle]

i'll have 100 Cafe posts before supper

[illabelle]

so what's everybody think of the fire ring thread?

[illabelle]

i kinda like fire rings ...

[illabelle]

but not if they're full of trash. that's not cool at all.

[illabelle]

i haul out my trash.

[illabelle]

can't really say i've hauled out trash others have behind.

[illabelle]

clean trash wouldn't be too bad, ...

[illabelle]

but i wouldn't like to pick up wet, slimy, smelly trash and carry that all the way back to the car

[illabelle]

eleven more to go and i fill up a page!

[illabelle]

woo hoo! hoo hoo

[illabelle]

no that wasn't an owl. at least i didn't see one.

[illabelle]

i'm so running out of stuff to say!

[illabelle]

i should probably just shut up

[illabelle]

i should probably just shut up

yeah, why don't you do that, just shut up!

[illabelle]

yeah, why don't you do that, just shut up!

can't. i'm too close to ...

[illabelle]

claiming a page all for ...

[illabelle]

myself without interruption from ...

[illabelle]

anybody else.

[illabelle]

almost there!!!

[illabelle]

DONE!
#33 in the cafe now:banana

[illabelle]

and now back to my list of chores [sigh]

[illabelle]

i considered starting up a thread of knock knock jokes ...

[illabelle]

googled to see if i could get some ...

[illabelle]

they were so bad that i change my mind.

[illabelle]

knock knock

[illabelle]

knock knock

who's there?

[illabelle]

who's there?

nobody except me :-?

[illabelle]

only twelve more to fill another page ...

[illabelle]

might as well ...

[illabelle]

say all i want now ...

[illabelle]

and get my quota in ...

[illabelle]

early................

[illabelle]

so i can take it easy ...

[illabelle]

the rest of the week

[illabelle]

five more ...

[illabelle]

this will be 40-something posts in a row!

[illabelle]

is someone keeping up with records on this?

[illabelle]

well this poho is almost done

[illabelle]

#44700, 300 to the K

[illabelle]

#44700, 300 to the K
and while it appears that i could probably run 300 straight, i DO have better things to do!
:D

[Rasty]

#44700, 300 to the K
and while it appears that i could probably run 300 straight, i DO have better things to do!
:D

Are you related to S'more? :D

[illabelle]

to borrow a word,
Hmmmm

[hikerboy57]

Beware the laundrymat candy machine
her nuts are salty
and her crackers stale

love the laundrymat candy machine

[illabelle]

Are you related to S'more? :D

wow there's life in the cafe!
no, i haven't crossed paths with S'more yet. is he/she the biggest poho of them all?

[Storm]

Me thinks someone needs to find something to keep her entertained.

[Rasty]

Are you related to S'more? :D

wow there's life in the cafe!
no, i haven't crossed paths with S'more yet. is he/she the biggest poho of them all?

Just has a habit of speed posting every once in a while.

[hikerboy57]

you figure out where you're going tomorrow? if not i can tell you all about some places ive never been to.

[Wise Old Owl]

It's Pepperland... http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/228/2/c/Return_to_Pepperland_by_CountryDreamer.png

[Rasty]

you figure out where you're going tomorrow? if not i can tell you all about some places ive never been to.

I'm thinking about Thoreau

[Rasty]

All I got is dress shoes for tomorrow. I should be ok? Right?

[Sarcasm the elf]

seems no one is around, so maybe i'll sneak a page in ...

The force is strong with this one...

[Sarcasm the elf]

Beware the laundrymat candy machine
her nuts are salty
and her crackers stale

Matthewski stopped by the cafe? I feel honored!

[Wise Old Owl]

didn't see that coming .. Matty is is in Pepperland.

[atmilkman]

and while it appears that i could probably run 300 straight, i DO have better things to do!
:D

2 pages in a row. That may very well be a record.

[Rasty]

Looks like it's going to be a wash out tomorrow in New Hampshire. Rain and Thunderstorms all day. Sounds like a zero day for me instead.

[Wise Old Owl]

ah a good start - cans she finish like the rest of us? No need for Viagra here.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZJBi8v9vXdxmklVlzKFkealbLkHwL-cR9Ai6528rVggdnMQVWwA

[atmilkman]

Looks like it's going to be a wash out tomorrow in New Hampshire. Rain and Thunderstorms all day. Sounds like a zero day for me instead.

Too bad. I was looking forward to the report on the dress shoes.

[Rasty]

Too bad. I was looking forward to the report on the dress shoes.

I got about 500 miles on this pair of dress shoes! Maybe time for a new pair.

[atmilkman]

I got about 500 miles on this pair of dress shoes! Maybe time for a new pair.

Can you see through the bottoms yet?

[Rasty]

Can you see through the bottoms yet?

Not yet. The air chambers are starting to pop. Maybe half have holes in them so far.

[atmilkman]

Not yet. The air chambers are starting to pop. Maybe half have holes in them so far.

Maybe you could put them inside an oversized pair of Crocs.

[Rasty]

Maybe you could put them inside an oversized pair of Crocs.

I don't do Crocs. They make my feet look fat!

[hikerboy57]

Looks like it's going to be a wash out tomorrow in New Hampshire. Rain and Thunderstorms all day. Sounds like a zero day for me instead.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? me and driver arguing over which route for you to take and you're taking a zero?madison and adams are so exciting in t storms and i know , based on your level of experience, that you can handle it.if i can do it you can, and i have done it before.well almost did it myself, actually had someone else hike it for me(except of course for the t-storms)they dont call it thunderstorm junction for no reason you know.go for it!!!

[Rasty]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? me and driver arguing over which route for you to take and you're taking a zero?madison and adams are so exciting in t storms and i know , based on your level of experience, that you can handle it.if i can do it you can, and i have done it before.well almost did it myself, actually had someone else hike it for me(except of course for the t-storms)they dont call it thunderstorm junction for no reason you know.go for it!!!

The only consolation for not going hiking tomorrow is that you and Driver fought about it all day. On a serious note it looks like it will start raining at 6 am and rain all day with lightning off and on all day.

[hikerboy57]

The only consolation for not going hiking tomorrow is that you and Driver fought about it all day. On a serious note it looks like it will start raining at 6 am and rain all day with lightning off and on all day.
i would suggest, based on my secondhand knowledge, you should bring rain gear. some prefer an umbrella

[Rasty]

i would suggest, based on my secondhand knowledge, you should bring rain gear. some prefer an umbrella

I'm thinking about watching TV and sleeping all day. What route should I take?

[Wise Old Owl]

I have to say it TD55 is one of us....

[hikerboy57]

I'm thinking about watching TV and sleeping all day. What route should I take?
dont know, but i prefer trail runners to boots. cant wait to try them

[Rasty]

dont know, but i refer trail runners to boots. cant wait to try them

Don't be smoking trail runners.

[hikerboy57]

Don't be smoking trail runners.
quit. went cold turkey. ive been trail runner smoke free for over a month

[Rasty]

quit. went cold turkey. ive been trail runner smoke free for over a month

That's good because all that foam rubber isn't good for you!

[hikerboy57]

That's good because all that foam rubber isn't good for you!
in the meantime i cant seem to keep this e cigarette lit.i melted it but it still wouldnt light

[Rasty]

in the meantime i cant seem to keep this e cigarette lit.i melted it but it still wouldnt light

You not doing it right! You need to fill it with tobacco before your light it up!

[hikerboy57]

You not doing it right! You need to fill it with tobacco before your light it up!
forgot to tell you, i heard from agent orange and engineer(hans and franz). theyve finished their 2000km hike and are in chicago. they're doing some sightseeeing, and should be in ny in a week or so, then flying home. they asked me if they could ship their gear to me. the other day i got this big box that must of weighed over 70 lbs. i texted them to let them know i got it okay, and they claim its only 30kg

[Wise Old Owl]

forgot to tell you, i heard from agent orange and engineer(hans and franz). theyve finished their 2000km hike and are in chicago. they're doing some sightseeeing, and should be in ny in a week or so, then flying home. they asked me if they could ship their gear to me. the other day i got this big box that must of weighed over 70 lbs. i texted them to let them know i got it okay, and they claim its only 30kg


Uh Zimbalta ... see side effects ... Folks are so happy and have self peelin skin.

[Rasty]

forgot to tell you, i heard from agent orange and engineer(hans and franz). theyve finished their 2000km hike and are in chicago. they're doing some sightseeeing, and should be in ny in a week or so, then flying home. they asked me if they could ship their gear to me. the other day i got this big box that must of weighed over 70 lbs. i texted them to let them know i got it okay, and they claim its only 30kg

30 kilos is 66 pounds. You should refill their box with Fox News books (Hannity and O'Reilly). Kevin would love that.

[Wise Old Owl]

I am lobbying very hard to lower the drinking age back to 18... only because I am so tired of dancing with the moms.... OOOOOHHHHH!


Oh nevermind.

[Rasty]

I am lobbying very hard to lower the drinking age back to 18... only because I am so tired of dancing with the moms.... OOOOOHHHHH!


Oh nevermind.

The drinking age should be around 14 and the driving age at 18.

[Wise Old Owl]

Its all good ... then someone has an "ISSUE" Because they were left out. Didn't have enough ice cream..


If you do not understand the "thought process here" as a European I was introduced to alcohol in moderation at 15 in England as a young adult getting drunk is a taboo. Sitting at a bar is an honor to sit and discuss the day with other older adults. Today there is a law against the process, that is still the best way to keep young adults in check.



Since then in the state of PA there is the relative new law of Pizza Hut Law.

[BirdBrain]

Okay, but this is the last time. 4 x 4oz = 16oz. 16oz = 1 pound.

I was feeling extra silly this morning. Not even going on the other thread to see the responses. Bored with it now. This site has been great therapy for me.

[BirdBrain]

I have to go to Walmart......lookin' for that Permethrin stuff..........we are all going to get eatin' up over the next 2 weeks.....in the Northeast!

Did my clothes and gear. A word to the wise: Get another sprayer. The spray heads are stupid fragile.

[BirdBrain]

Welcome? Dude, with 70 Cafe posts, I'm almost an old-timer! :p

My mother did not raise any fools. I don't care how many posts you have, I ain't gonna' call you an old-timer. Now, who was that woman that raised me?

[BirdBrain]

This is for atmilkman. Everyone one else can just skip ahead.

http://taylorswifties.webs.com/photos/Taylor-In-Popular-Ads/Milk.jpg

Did somebody say something?

[BirdBrain]

this will be 40-something posts in a row!

This run is humbling.

[BirdBrain]

Me thinks someone needs to find something to keep her entertained.

Me thinks she has found it.

[Rasty]

This run is humbling.

You have a few long runs yourself.

[BirdBrain]

You have a few long runs yourself.

I know when I have been bested. It is normally by a female too. Just ask my wife about fishing.

[BirdBrain]

Okay... back to sorting junk for resupplies.

[BirdBrain]

maybe just maybe