was wondering where it is legal and not legal to carry, what permits are required, etc.
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was wondering where it is legal and not legal to carry, what permits are required, etc.
oh christ. here we go. just do a search
i tried and could not find anything that specific.
thanks L Wolf.
"how illegal is it to carry a gun on a thru hike?"
There are no degrees of legality, it is either legal or illegal.
To summarize:
1) Most people think it is unnecessary to carry a gun on a thru-hike. And there's the issue of not wanting to carry extra weight.
2) If you do choose to carry one, you should know that you will pass through places where it is illegal to carry (National Parks) and places which have restrictive legislation (Massachusetts comes to mind).
"Complicated" is an understatement. It's a lot more than state parks. As far as I know, most states allow private property (i.e. shops) to choose whether or not to allow weapons onsite, even for licensed CCW holders.
If you drive up to a restaurant and see a "no firearms" sticker (which I do see, even here in the rural South), you can secure your weapon in the car. What do you do in the same scenario while thru-hiking? Leave it outside in your pack? That's just not a great idea. Going to another establishment is the easy answer, but in small trail towns the next restaurant/grocery store, etc. may be an hour's walk.
Not anti gun at all, I teach concealed weapon classes. I stress in the class if they are going out of state to check the laws for that state and so when someone asks a question like this it brings into question a few issues.
Was I a little harsh, possibly but if you are taking on the responsibility of carrying a gun you should also have problem solving skills like how to and a good portion of common sense.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....0.1.4&idno=36
Rules for engagement in National Parks
hperry, WB is the wrong place to get that info.
Not that some here can't tell you, or that they don't know, but it is not a credible place to get such important info.
You will have to check the laws in each county/state you plan to be passing through, and how they apply to non-residents.
As far as retailers and their little signs, there is much debate on the legality of such.
I carry myself, and obey the law, but you need to do your due diligence and learn all laws governing carrying a weapon whether concealed or not.
Got to love that question - needs to be an article, as non members cannot view the search. Members have covered this to death. (No Pun Intended)
trout hunter - this is the right place. Period.
Far from the truth there Mark. There are many other places to get this information, other than this site. This is a hiking site Mark, not a site from which to garner legal advice. The OP asked about the legalities of carrying, not your or anyone else's opinion. You sure you aren't drinking tonight, because you sure are full of something, I was thinking maybe alcohol.
The safest thing is to look at the websites for every state you will hike through. For example, you would go to the department of safety website for TN. Read every states specific carry laws and reciprocity with your carry permit. If some don't have reciprocity you may be able to get a non-resident carry permit for that state, or another state that does have reciprocity with that state. For example, WV may not have reciprocity with your sate, but Ohio might. So get a non-resident carry permit for Ohio. I can't remember which ones, but I know there are one or two states that if you get a non-resident permit then you can carry in every state that allows carrying. Your states permit and those two will give you reciprocity with every state that allows carrying weapons.
Then you have to find out what different types of government and private lands you will be walking through, and if you can carry through them. I don't remember seeing too many private places with signs posted forbiding firearms. Again, every state is different so it will require a lot of research.
Why the #$%@ do U need a gun on the AT??????????????? Do U think this is the wild wild west??? LIONS AND AND BEARS OH MY????
It was my understanding that when you are backpacking you are to home no mateer whare you happen tobe. If that is true you can have a gun to defend yourselfat home according to the resent ruling on the issue.
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Not true. National Parks? What resent ruling are you speaking of?
I don't mean to fuel any fires, but does anyone know of any thru-hiker who has ever carried a gun? I certainly haven't run across anyone carrying a gun on a trail other than horse packers out west, and hunters in-season.
Haiku.
Yeah, I knew of atleast 5 this year. They seemed responsible, never pulled it out, and they only told me because we got to be very good friends over time and because of my background. No one else knew they had one on them, and that's how it should be. Didn't bother me one bit that they were carrying, but I carry all the time at home so I'm comfortable around them.
No, that whole ruling where you are "home" wherever you are sleeping is for motels/hotels/campers etc. You have no reasonable expectation of property in the woods or in a tent. They have to "break into" where you are to be a threat. In the woods you have no right to the area like you do a place you are renting. If that were the case then you can carry a handgun anywhere like New York City, DC, absolutely anywhere as long as you intend to sleep where you stand.
The Top Ten Reasons to Carry a Gun on the AT:
10. It comes in handy when driving tent stakes into hard ground.
9. Bear bag rope stuck in tree? No problem!
8. Need another tie-out place in your tarp?
7. Water accumulating at the bottom of your pack cover? Make a drain hole.
6. Quiets owls and whiporwills so you can sleep.
5. Snake won't move off the trail? Make it into two snakes.
4. Quickly unties knots.
3. Opens bottles when your fingers are cold.
2. Forget your fishing pole?
And the Number One Reason to Carry a Gun on the AT:
Chicks dig them.
Wow!!! you're right. Inever thought of it that way.
Tell that to a woman that is ready to vote - She is taking the 19th too far.. Or how about enslaving a black - "Get back in the fields - You are taking the 13th too far."
How about someone comes in the middle of the night and drags your ass outta your house, tosses your house and puts you in prison because of your beleifs???? What?????? It's OK Homer, you are taking 1, 4 and 8 too seriously.
Folks carry guns for the piece of mind, and knowing that they have personal protection in a jam. 99% of gun owners who are not hunters hope they never have to fire their gun outside of target practice.
I am not considering carrying a gun because i think it is crazy not to, or that the trail is filled with all kinds of danger.
get a grip.
i carry. it ain't no biggie
Gary Hiltons victims and family will probably disagree with you on this one!
I defend anybody right to carry, I carry but never have while backpacking. Personally just don't want the weight. I never camp near a road, if I'm not comfortable with those I'm with I will loose them. Use that sixth sense everyone was born with.
My personal recommendation is if you carry NEVER tell anyone, you loose that element of surprise and their is a bit of gun security in others not knowing.
x2 on not telling. Wouldn't reccomend carrying without having a conceal and carry permit regardless. Thats everyones personal business. However if you're going to carry a semi do us all a favor and don't hike with one in the chamber.I love my semis, but if I ever decide to hike with one hamerless revolver is the safest and lightest option IMO.