They sell them on Amazon too.
They sell them on Amazon too.
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I found mine in the appliance department of the local Sears store.
Yes...they're still in business.
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What's the big deal with the scented ones? I use them and don't really mind the smell. I guess the unscented ones might be better but it's not like the scented ones smell like sewage. They also keep your pack from smelling like B.O. after a few days of having your nasty sweaty crap in there. To each their own I guess.
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I know I am a broken record, but.... Those that concider scented anything for the trail are thinking in human terms. Yes nice smelling things mask the stench from abusing our noses. They are not fooling the animals. Odor proof containers are another lie. The molecules left on the outside of the container by your hands is enough for the animal to know what is inside. Such marketing takes advantage of people thinking like humans and not grasping the abilities of animals. Adding any nice smelling anything will not hide anything from any animal and will instead give said animals one more odor to be curious about.
In short, I agree with RS.
I wish a few trappers would comment here. It is vanity to attempt to mask any smell from an animal. My trapping clothes lived a shed outside. I wore rubber boots that aired outside for months and were never touched by anything outer than the rubber gloves that lived with my trapping gear in the shed. At times, that was still not enough to fool a wise fox. Some had to be caught with blind sets. If you think a smelly bag or not smelly bag protects what is inside, you are being duped.
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Andrew Skurka seems to disagree and uses Opsaks in Grizzly country... so I think that the issue is at least a bit more complicated and might depend on the care one uses in food handling. Obviously if you smear peanut butter on the outside of an opsak it wont be too effective...
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Not that it hasn't been posted a million times before.
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Got mine at Walmart, don't use it as a liner but as a pack cover.
Wow, I had no idea about pinholes in the ZPacks liner. Did you pack hard objects inside? With mine I just pack soft stuff.
I've also never been able to find compactor bags, except online. I never bothered because I've always found a simple trash bag from home works just fine. I usually have the Hefty Flex on hand. A new bag each trip works just fine for me, even on two or three week trips.
I've never had gear get wet while in the pack in over 33 years of backpacking using regular trash bags, so I guess my position is: If it ain't broke, don't bother fixing.
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Yes, I have packed my Bearikade inside the liner in the past (JMT thru hike) so maybe that had an impact. I'm not really sure. And the liner did last two solid years and many miles so I'm not really saying anything bad about it, just that it is important to test it as it gets older. I think that's true of any cuben gear. For me the price of the liner isn't worth getting a new one but it certainly is a more elegant solution than a compactor bag if price isn't an issue.
After reading this thread, I filled my cuben pack liner with water and found many pinholes leaking water. I took a magic marker, circled the pinholes, and sealed them up with cuben repair tape.
Should be good for another year or so.