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    How do you know you're allergic?

    [Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]

    My experience is that many who claim they're allergic need to examine their knowledge base. I'm not saying you're not allergic, as I wouldn't have any basis to make such a claim. I am saying that many that make such claims need to seriously examine whether there's a real basis to make such a claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccpacker View Post
    I have a severe peanut allergy and looking at doing the trail next year and would love to see what people recommend I look into for food since I can't get my protein from nuts.
    dried meat (jerky).

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    Interesting article on possible solution to the peanut allergy issue https://www.inverse.com/article/6444...ergenic-peanut

    P.S. If this comes to be true, it won't be anytime soon, but interesting little read and there's a video on the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredt4 View Post
    How do you know you're allergic?

    [Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]

    My experience is that many who claim they're allergic need to examine their knowledge base. I'm not saying you're not allergic, as I wouldn't have any basis to make such a claim. I am saying that many that make such claims need to seriously examine whether there's a real basis to make such a claim.
    Some years ago a child on a school trip died when given food with peanuts. He had a known alergy. Lawyers had a field day. This in Spokane, WA. That's why schools are hyper vigilant.
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    I work with lots of immigrants and many years ago I started to wonder about illnesses and how they're related to cultural expectations. The subject came up after someone mentioned illnesses related to race. I asked people from different cultures and nations what illnesses were common here but unheard of in their home countries. I was surprising how much is culturally related. Chinese almost have never heard of peanut allergies. Yet here we carry on as it's a real medical condition. Just casually looking at various sites will cause one to question if it's psychosomatic. Recently a family from Denmark of African origin whose extremely allergic to peanuts visited my residence. They didn't notice the peanuts, but claimed that merely being in a residence with peanuts would cause a reaction. I didn't tell them that they failed the test. Many parents are convinced their children have allergies, but never notice that the children are eating the foods without reaction. Several relatives claimed certain allergies yet consume the foods inadvertently without reactions until i'll point out their favorite whatever contains the food their allergic to. Instead of accepting that their not allergic they'll announce that it only affects them when combined with certain other foods. Hence my skepticism.

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    I agree that many people's allergies are not real. Some, however, are very real. Even gluten is dangerous to a portion of these who fancy themselves gluten intolerant. Food and health idiocy abounds, regardless.
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    From what I understand they actually may finally have a treatment to dramatically decrease the response to the peanut fungus to where its not life threatening anymore.

    I'm allergic to wheat, peas, carrots (parsley, celery, etc), but not peanuts or soybeans. Mine allergy is a delayed reaction main symptom is that my immune system starts attacking my esophagus. Pretty annoying, lived with it for decades until a few years ago. The allergy doesn't show up on a scratch test, you have to "wear" the food for several days for a reaction to register.

    Also annoying is when I ask people if something has wheat in it they'll tell me "its gluten free" at which point I typically say "If doesn't have the gluten I don't want it!". I guess having more choices because of the gluten inteolerant people isn't a bad thing. I just hate asking direct questions about wheat then getting an answer that's not about wheat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredt4 View Post

    [Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]
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    Im no allergy specialist, but it does seem overblown. Some people are allergic to almost anything and everythin. At some point it just sucks to be you.



    Wheat
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    Soybean
    Eggs
    Dairy
    Fish
    Shellfish
    Nuts
    Spices
    Chocolate
    Cut grass
    Down
    Latex
    Insects
    Animal dander
    Dust

    Ive encountered school concession stands at ball games that didnt sell peanut mms or snickers due to peanuts. Didnt want to be responsible for some kid eating something they shouldnt.

    Whats left schools can serve kids to eat? Engineered crapola.
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    I find it amazing that the human race didn't disappear from the face of the earth shortly after we took up residence in caves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    I find it amazing that the human race didn't disappear from the face of the earth shortly after we took up residence in caves.

    Sent from somewhere around here.
    Just because allergies couldn't be diagnosed didn't mean they didn't exist. What we don't know is the extent that allergies may or may not have gotten worse in modern times.

    By today's numbers, infant mortality:

    afghanistan: 187.5 per 1000 births
    united states: 5.2 per 1000 births

    Between 1950 and today south korea's infant mortality went from 137.95 to 3.76 deaths per 1000 births.

    Some percentage of these saved lives is due to identification of childhood allergies, amongst many other factors.

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    Darwins might say, by coddling our weak and allowing them to mature and reproduces, we are weakening our species ourselves. In many ways. Modern society has short-circuited natural selection and we are regressing. We protect and support the intellectually inferior, and the natural weaknesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyWaters View Post
    Darwins might say, by coddling our weak and allowing them to mature and reproduces, we are weakening our species ourselves. In many ways. Modern society has short-circuited natural selection and we are regressing. We protect and support the intellectually inferior, and the natural weaknesses.
    But he did not. He was a social progressive in many ways, and would have been appalled. The gross and immoral consequences of this line of thought are all too well documented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral Bill View Post
    But he did not. He was a social progressive in many ways, and would have been appalled. The gross and immoral consequences of this line of thought are all too well documented.

    Stating an obvious effect that happens, and espousing policy based on it, are two entirely separate things.

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