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    Quote Originally Posted by Chair-man View Post
    I have to agree 100%. Getting past the half way mark has got to be a HUUUUUUUUGE physiological lift for Karl. I believe he can now see that tiny spec of light at the end of the long green tunnel. It's all down hill from here. Well, figuratively anyway.
    Not really, if you have big injuries and fighting for every step. Half way on the AT is a little more than half way in a 100 miler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chair-man View Post
    I have to agree 100%. Getting past the half way mark has got to be a HUUUUUUUUGE physiological lift for Karl. I believe he can now see that tiny spec of light at the end of the long green tunnel. It's all down hill from here. Well, figuratively anyway.


    I'm more talking clearing the worst of the rocks than any mileage markers... I just meant if he got some better trail to stroll on while he healed.

    Seemed from his crew reports at least that the rocks were really chewing him up this time... and the shin splints made it worse than usual for him- that or simply coming so strong out of the northwoods simply caught up to him and the rocks became the scapegoat.

    Either way- fresh terrain or halfway point I hope he gets the boost that it seems some are reporting. I think Shennies are the real turning point terrain wise and he's about there.

    He's is now literally going to need "the run of a lifetime"

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    Pretty sure I crossed paths with Karl about 5:30am near the Jim and Molly Denton Shelter. I let out a big 'good morning'... he kind of grunted something. ☺ It was dark so I didn't want to blind him with my head laml.

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    If it was him he probably was at Manassas Gap Monday night. Around 116 miles in 2 days. His shin must be better.

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    Using the daily log posted on the FB page, I confirmed or corrected my mileages and overnights for the first half of his hike. There are a couple of discrepancies between his numbers and mine around Woodstock VT. Was there a trail relocation there recently? I am using the 2015 THC so my numbers might be off, but only by a few tenths of a mile.

    Day Actual Total Miles Actual Location Day Miles Deviation
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    0 0.0 Katahdin ME 0.0 0.0
    1 56.0 Jo Mary Rd ME 56.0 9.6 -0.3
    2 100.2 Long Pond Stream 44.2 4.3 -0.5
    3 151.2 US 201 Caratunk ME 51.0 8.7 4.5
    4 188.2 ME 27 Stratton ME 37.0 2.5 -0.6
    5 233.5 ME 17 Oquossoc ME 45.3 3.9 3.5
    6 267.2 ME 26 Grafton Notch NH 33.7 1.8 -0.9
    7 298.3 US 2 Gorham NH 31.1 3.2 -1.0
    8 345.4 US 302 Crawford Notch NH 47.1 18.9 11.3
    9 372.5 Flume Side Trail NH 27.1 20.5 10.4
    10 408.0 Cape Moonshine Rd NH 35.5 17.9 7.5
    11 464.6 VT 12 Woodstock VT 56.6 27.1 21.3
    12 512.0 VT 140 Wallingford VT 47.4 25.6 32.2
    13 555.6 Arlington Rd Stratton VT 43.6 19.1 33.1
    14 602.9 Mt Greylock MA 47.3 18.1 36.3
    15 654.1 Beartown Mtn Rd MA 51.2 19.6 39.9
    16 699.5 US 7 and CT 112 CT 45.4 14.4 36.8
    17 750.3 Depot Hill Rd NY 50.8 15.4 40.0
    18 805.1 Arden Valley Rd NY 54.8 19.3 45.6
    19 850.1 County Rd 319 NJ 45.0 15.9 41.0
    20 885.3 Camp Road NJ 35.2 -3.4 31.0
    21 940.5 Bake Oven Knob Rd PA 55.2 1.0 33.2
    22 956.9 Hawk Mtn Rd PA 16.4 -32.0 1.4
    23 1007.2 PA 72 Swatara Gap PA 50.3 -38.1 4.5
    24 1042.7 US 11/15 Duncannon PA 35.5 -58.8 -14.2
    25 1095.7 Shippensburg Road PA 53.0 -57.4 -13.0

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    And now for something completely different...

    It seems that Karl's web page for daily logs has space saver text on pages not yet posted. But you can view the not-yet-active log posts by typing in the URL directly. Each future day says the same thing:

    http://view.ceros.com/redbull/notes-from-the-trail/p/30

    Bacon ipsum dolor amet leberkas dolore andouille boudin tenderloin cow aliquip. Shankle meatloaf velit drumstick, est brisket irure. Pastrami alcatra excepteur tail, consectetur qui proident. Non excepteur sausage, ground round ham hock fatback leberkas bacon aliquip. Bacon tri-tip pork belly consectetur laboris frankfurter velit in anim ball tip occaecat. Magna brisket sunt sirloin cillum swine eu sausage beef ribs alcatra ham pancetta incididunt.

    Sed kevin doner nulla irure cillum. Ham cupim labore ribeye pastrami swine. Jerky labore esse duis deserunt. Cupim leberkas duis nulla tempor, ut strip steak flank magna. Consequat shank andouille, frankfurter in ullamco short ribs dolore. Porchetta salami pastrami officia lorem alcatra, esse in pig doner ex shankle.


    Typing that into Google Translate and use auto language detect, you find it translates from Latin as:

    Bacon very smart residential leberkas pain andouille boudin tenderloin cow aliquip. Shankle meatloaf outdoor drumstick, the brisket cupidatat. Pastrami alcatra excepteur tail, Minneapolis who proident. Not excepteur sausage, ground round ham hock fatback bacon leberkas aliquip. Bacon, pork belly tri-tip tomato frankfurter willing to work in anim ball tip blacks. Great brisket and beef ribs sausage sirloin cillum swine football alcatra ham pancetta and vitality.

    But Kevin doner no cupidatat cillum. Ham wants to work Ribeye Pastrami swine. Jerky labor duis abandon. I want leberkas duis no time to strip a large flank steak. Photography shank andouille, frankfurter in the district short ribs pain. Porchetta salami Pastrami offices lorem alcatra be in pig doner from shankle.

    Perhaps the random day dreams of a non-vegan running all day???

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    Thanks for that update, Odd Man Out, to my humble eye, this is actually encouraging, being that close to JPD (I personally don't really put much weight in the comparison to SJ because of the different direction). JPD didn't do much running, and seemingly Karl will be able to make up time with some strong running through MD/WV/VA.

    I still hold out a decent hope that Karl can get the job done!

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    Sunday he made it to Gapland Rd.....60.1 miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado_rob View Post
    Thanks for that update, Odd Man Out, to my humble eye, this is actually encouraging, being that close to JPD (I personally don't really put much weight in the comparison to SJ because of the different direction). JPD didn't do much running, and seemingly Karl will be able to make up time with some strong running through MD/WV/VA.

    I still hold out a decent hope that Karl can get the job done!
    Actually that JPD didn't do much running might have worked a lot in her favor. You don't have to be fast on these long distance runs. You have to be steady and don't overdo it on ANY day. Once you pushed to hard to get into an injury, you might not get out of it at all.

    I think a lot of runners overestimate what the speed of a Scott Jurek or a Karl Meltzer on this trail can do. I wish there would be a way to see who much time each of them spent on the trail each day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus 4345 View Post
    Actually that JPD didn't do much running might have worked a lot in her favor. You don't have to be fast on these long distance runs. You have to be steady and don't overdo it on ANY day. Once you pushed to hard to get into an injury, you might not get out of it at all.
    Agree, I've always been amazed at the good old Tortoise vs. Hare thing, JPD being the ultimate Tortoise.

    That being said, it does take some running to do his now required 53+ days, I would think, and Karl can do this effectively in the "flats" of the middle of the AT.

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    I did some calculating and I figure for Karl to beat Scott Jurek's record Karl will have to be on Springer Mt by Sun Sept 18th at 3:07 pm.

    The calculation is base on Karl leaving Katahdin on Aug 3rd at 7 am and adding Scott Jurek's record time of 46 days, 8 hours, 7 minutes.

    Although the exact time Karl left Katahdin isn't known he had to have left first thing in the morning to have a 56 mile day on the 1st day. So that arrival time at Springer might be off by an hour or two.

    See calculation here

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    The Red Bull site has a running countdown clock and he has 17 days and 17 hrs. to break the record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angle View Post
    The Red Bull site has a running countdown clock and he has 17 days and 17 hrs. to break the record.
    But nobody knows how accurate that is, since they update this website only once a month ;-)

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    Karl definitely stopped for tonight at Turk Gap, Shenandoah Park. His previous issues appear to have all healed and he was making it look easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    Using the daily log posted on the FB page, I confirmed or corrected my mileages and overnights for the first half of his hike. There are a couple of discrepancies between his numbers and mine around Woodstock VT. Was there a trail relocation there recently? I am using the 2015 THC so my numbers might be off, but only by a few tenths of a mile.

    Day Actual Total Miles Actual Location Day Miles Deviation
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    0.0 Katahdin ME 0.0 0.0
    1 56.0 Jo Mary Rd ME 56.0 9.6 -0.3
    2 100.2 Long Pond Stream 44.2 4.3 -0.5
    3 151.2 US 201 Caratunk ME 51.0 8.7 4.5
    4 188.2 ME 27 Stratton ME 37.0 2.5 -0.6
    5 233.5 ME 17 Oquossoc ME 45.3 3.9 3.5
    6 267.2 ME 26 Grafton Notch NH 33.7 1.8 -0.9
    7 298.3 US 2 Gorham NH 31.1 3.2 -1.0
    8 345.4 US 302 Crawford Notch NH 47.1 18.9 11.3
    9 372.5 Flume Side Trail NH 27.1 20.5 10.4
    10 408.0 Cape Moonshine Rd NH 35.5 17.9 7.5
    11 464.6 VT 12 Woodstock VT 56.6 27.1 21.3
    12 512.0 VT 140 Wallingford VT 47.4 25.6 32.2
    13 555.6 Arlington Rd Stratton VT 43.6 19.1 33.1
    14 602.9 Mt Greylock MA 47.3 18.1 36.3
    15 654.1 Beartown Mtn Rd MA 51.2 19.6 39.9
    16 699.5 US 7 and CT 112 CT 45.4 14.4 36.8
    17 750.3 Depot Hill Rd NY 50.8 15.4 40.0
    18 805.1 Arden Valley Rd NY 54.8 19.3 45.6
    19 850.1 County Rd 319 NJ 45.0 15.9 41.0
    20 885.3 Camp Road NJ 35.2 -3.4 31.0
    21 940.5 Bake Oven Knob Rd PA 55.2 1.0 33.2
    22 956.9 Hawk Mtn Rd PA 16.4 -32.0 1.4
    23 1007.2 PA 72 Swatara Gap PA 50.3 -38.1 4.5
    24 1042.7 US 11/15 Duncannon PA 35.5 -58.8 -14.2
    25 1095.7 Shippensburg Road PA 53.0 -57.4 -13.0

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    The trail is 11.3 miles longer that when JPD did it. Wouldn't that mean he started 11.3 miles behind her daily mileage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    And now for something completely different...

    It seems that Karl's web page for daily logs has space saver text on pages not yet posted. But you can view the not-yet-active log posts by typing in the URL directly. Each future day says the same thing:

    http://view.ceros.com/redbull/notes-from-the-trail/p/30

    Bacon ipsum dolor amet leberkas dolore andouille boudin tenderloin cow aliquip. Shankle meatloaf velit drumstick, est brisket irure. Pastrami alcatra excepteur tail, consectetur qui proident. Non excepteur sausage, ground round ham hock fatback leberkas bacon aliquip. Bacon tri-tip pork belly consectetur laboris frankfurter velit in anim ball tip occaecat. Magna brisket sunt sirloin cillum swine eu sausage beef ribs alcatra ham pancetta incididunt.

    Sed kevin doner nulla irure cillum. Ham cupim labore ribeye pastrami swine. Jerky labore esse duis deserunt. Cupim leberkas duis nulla tempor, ut strip steak flank magna. Consequat shank andouille, frankfurter in ullamco short ribs dolore. Porchetta salami pastrami officia lorem alcatra, esse in pig doner ex shankle.


    Typing that into Google Translate and use auto language detect, you find it translates from Latin as:

    Bacon very smart residential leberkas pain andouille boudin tenderloin cow aliquip. Shankle meatloaf outdoor drumstick, the brisket cupidatat. Pastrami alcatra excepteur tail, Minneapolis who proident. Not excepteur sausage, ground round ham hock fatback bacon leberkas aliquip. Bacon, pork belly tri-tip tomato frankfurter willing to work in anim ball tip blacks. Great brisket and beef ribs sausage sirloin cillum swine football alcatra ham pancetta and vitality.

    But Kevin doner no cupidatat cillum. Ham wants to work Ribeye Pastrami swine. Jerky labor duis abandon. I want leberkas duis no time to strip a large flank steak. Photography shank andouille, frankfurter in the district short ribs pain. Porchetta salami Pastrami offices lorem alcatra be in pig doner from shankle.

    Perhaps the random day dreams of a non-vegan running all day???
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalebJ View Post
    LOL... Thank you!

    I came across that term when publishing my book and it was slightly driving me nuts that I couldn't remember the term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angle View Post
    The trail is 11.3 miles longer that when JPD did it. Wouldn't that mean he started 11.3 miles behind her daily mileage?
    I scaled JPD's numbers so they add up to the current total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    I scaled JPD's numbers so they add up to the current total.
    Ok, I see that now. Thanks for your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Bill View Post
    LOL... Thank you!

    I came across that term when publishing my book and it was slightly driving me nuts that I couldn't remember the term.
    I had to think about it for a minute. It was discussed in a web programming class I took a few years ago, but I couldn't remember the exact term this time until I realized it was used in the text itself.

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