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    Default Warm weather alternative sleeping system

    Can't wait the 3-4 months to get my EE quilt, too warm for my 20 degree bag, so I'm carrying my Army issued Patrol sleeping bag. It's 38 oz, rated somewhere around 45-50 degrees. No problem there. Then I had an idea-

    I have a Sea to Summit Thermolite reactor liner and a very light, $65 down throw/quilt, I guess comparable to the Costco ones. I was thinking about putting that inside the Thermolite liner, or sleeping inside the liner with the down quilt over me. This awesome setup is 25 ounces. It looks like temps at elevation at night will be in the low 60s, maybe going down to 58-59.

    Has anyone tried this before? I'd consider bringing a long sleeve shirt or light fleece to stave off any potential evening chill, but definitely sleeping in shorts.
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    I'd say the quilt has 1.25-1.5 inches of loft. Probably 550 down.
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    Why would you need the liner?
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    EE lists 1" loft = 50 degrees and 1.5" = 40 degrees. Your good with the quilt.
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    I agree with Wayne but it certainly depends on the person. I sweat at 69 degrees in my house with a fan and no covers so im positive I would be warm with that. My wife can sleep fine in a hoody, sweat pants, wool socks and under a comforter at the same temperature so I would guess she would be cold.

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    That green bag is nice

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    Yeah, but this ISN'T an EE quilt. Like I said, it's a cheap down throw. Comes up to my chest. I figured I'd use the liner to hold everything in.
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    AfterParty- The patrol bag (mine is the newer "urban gray" color) is nice but it weighs more than my 20 degree bag, and almost a full 10 oz more than the propsed setup.

    I think I'll give it a try. It'll only be used for two nights on the test run.

    Now had this been an overnight trip near my home, I'd just bring the liner. It's after 1 a.m. and it's 73 degrees with 91% humidity. UGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpMaster Blaster View Post
    Yeah, but this ISN'T an EE quilt. Like I said, it's a cheap down throw. Comes up to my chest. I figured I'd use the liner to hold everything in.
    The great thing about quilts is tha you can throw it off you if you need to. Im with Wayne. Why do you need the liner? It kind of defeats the entire point of a quilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studlintsean View Post
    I agree with Wayne but it certainly depends on the person. I sweat at 69 degrees in my house with a fan and no covers so im positive I would be warm with that. My wife can sleep fine in a hoody, sweat pants, wool socks and under a comforter at the same temperature so I would guess she would be cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpMaster Blaster View Post
    Can't wait the 3-4 months to get my EE quilt, too warm for my 20 degree bag, so I'm carrying my Army issued Patrol sleeping bag. It's 38 oz, rated somewhere around 45-50 degrees. No problem there. Then I had an idea-

    I have a Sea to Summit Thermolite reactor liner and a very light, $65 down throw/quilt, I guess comparable to the Costco ones. I was thinking about putting that inside the Thermolite liner, or sleeping inside the liner with the down quilt over me. This awesome setup is 25 ounces. It looks like temps at elevation at night will be in the low 60s, maybe going down to 58-59.

    Has anyone tried this before? I'd consider bringing a long sleeve shirt or light fleece to stave off any potential evening chill, but definitely sleeping in shorts.
    What about poncho and liner(s) with long base layer. I have the old ones, not thinsulate, and am good down into the 50s. YMMV.
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    Lightweight Hiker gear search

    I think you might have to register, but well worth it when looking for camping gear.

    I'd try to find a good used Enlightened Equipment quilt — they're out there. Yes, the order lead times for new ones are getting to be insane!

    My 50deg EE Revelation weighs 11.3oz, and the Prodigy 40 (synthetic, Climashield Apex) weighs 17.7oz and is simply the best thing when a lot of rain is expected.

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    Since you are already looking at DIY, why not DIY an EE Prodigy using Climashield Apex available from Quest Outfitters and Dutchware fabric, Argon fabric, in particular. Climashield Apex is one of the easiest materials to assemble and sew.

    DIY will give you a functional top-quality synthetic quilt.

    EE will send you an exquisite quilt, beautifully crafted.

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    I also love my poncho liner for 60+ I prefer it get a marine one with a zipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie View Post
    Since you are already looking at DIY, why not DIY an EE Prodigy using Climashield Apex available from Quest Outfitters and Dutchware fabric, Argon fabric, in particular. Climashield Apex is one of the easiest materials to assemble and sew.

    DIY will give you a functional top-quality synthetic quilt.

    EE will send you an exquisite quilt, beautifully crafted.
    I really wish I could sew and would absolutely learn how to if I had the space for it. I envy those of you who can. Unfortunately, living in a condo imposes some limitations on my strong MYOG impulses! But I might yet get a sewing machine and try to make it work.

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    You could even use liquid stitch, basically a fabric glue that takes the place of actual sewing, if you don't want to buy a sewing machine. Quilts are very forgiving items to make. Most seams are not stressed and precision isn't important.

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    Connie/ cmoulder-

    I'm in a position where I absolutely cannot spend any $ on gear for the next few months, so I'm trying what I already have.

    RangerZ- I too have an old poncho liner. I thought about it, going to take it along to see how it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpMaster Blaster View Post
    Connie/ cmoulder-

    I'm in a position where I absolutely cannot spend any $ on gear for the next few months, so I'm trying what I already have.

    RangerZ- I too have an old poncho liner. I thought about it, going to take it along to see how it does.

    They are are what I use in the summer. I'd die in my 23* bag. They don't compress well. The thermolight ones are probably warmer. My wife calls them my security blankets.

    How many times have you put your knees in the breeze?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerZ View Post
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    How many times have you put your knees in the breeze?
    126. Walked off the DZ 125 times. The one time, not so bueno. To this day it's what I miss most about the Army.
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    'cho liner all the way!
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