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    Default What's your active mid layer?

    Now using a 8oz fleece. Any lighter, packs smaller choices with about the same warmth?

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    If you want to be a bit damp and clammy a 99 cent emergency poncho might give you the same warmth, pack much smaller and be much lighter perhaps a oz or two..

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    A midweight Capilene 1/4 zip provides a nice balance of warmth to weight at around 6.8 ounces in a size medium.
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    I use a light weight fleece with the sleeves cut short and hemmed above the elbow. Saves a little weight and easier to layer.

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    I usually use a light or mid weight wool layer if extra insulation is necessary between my base and outer layers. I no longer carry fleece, too heavy and bulky. PolyPro, Wool, and Primaloft make up my "active layers". Silk for a dry sleeping layer, and a down bag. Has served me very well in conditions from hot, humid eastern summers, dry western summers, and cold, wet eastern winters.

    Keeping active layers synthetic and/or wool, means I'm not up a creek without any paddle if my down bag, somehow, becomes too wet to be effective (it's never happened, but is a possibility at some point). SOME synthetics in your system are like insurance - normally not needed, until they are. For the same reason, I do not count on wearing all of my clothes to bed in order to sleep comfortably. I want the insurance for the EXTRA cold, unexpected nights.

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    First generation coyote brown Army polypro. They're warm. They were free. I already owned them. Nothing on the market has tempted me enough to switch. Yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyou View Post
    Now using a 8oz fleece. Any lighter, packs smaller choices with about the same warmth?

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    I could pick your brain like a buzzard, Lyle. Did you fill out the google forms survey I posted a few months ago that asks what gear you carry? I'd love to know. I'm one of those guys who often chooses not to learn from my own mistakes if someone has already made the trip and reported back...

    https://goo.gl/forms/ugSJ8a7QLmt8skao1

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I usually use a light or mid weight wool layer if extra insulation is necessary between my base and outer layers. I no longer carry fleece, too heavy and bulky. PolyPro, Wool, and Primaloft make up my "active layers". Silk for a dry sleeping layer, and a down bag. Has served me very well in conditions from hot, humid eastern summers, dry western summers, and cold, wet eastern winters.

    Keeping active layers synthetic and/or wool, means I'm not up a creek without any paddle if my down bag, somehow, becomes too wet to be effective (it's never happened, but is a possibility at some point). SOME synthetics in your system are like insurance - normally not needed, until they are. For the same reason, I do not count on wearing all of my clothes to bed in order to sleep comfortably. I want the insurance for the EXTRA cold, unexpected nights.




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    Patagucci R1 hooded fleece has been great for me. I can dial in a nice temp with combination of zip, hand warmers, etc. Ain't cheap but has been a good piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmcpeak View Post
    Patagucci R1 hooded fleece has been great for me. I can dial in a nice temp with combination of zip, hand warmers, etc. Ain't cheap but has been a good piece.
    That's similar to the lighter cap 4 1/4 zip (thermal wt) hoody...great piece around 6-7 oz....with wind or rain shell good down to teens on the move....dries quick also...had it several years.


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    I layer another 100 fleece on top of my R1 just so I can watch the frost form on the outer fleece when its really cold. Apparently the wicking layers work to move the moisture to the surface.

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    I use a Patogonia Capiline 4 Pro Zip is my go to layer. It is 9.4oz and ended up lighter and warmer than my REI Half Zip Polartec Mid Layer. I also like to put a Wind Shirt over it to really lock in heat.
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    Well I'm trying something new . Hope it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbolt View Post
    I use a Patogonia Capiline 4 Pro Zip is my go to layer. It is 9.4oz and ended up lighter and warmer than my REI Half Zip Polartec Mid Layer. I also like to put a Wind Shirt over it to really lock in heat.
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    Ibex Woolies hoody or North Face TKA 100 fleece

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    I use Patagonia Micro D full-zip fleece jacket. Pleasant to touch but hand pockets don't have zippers.

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    A wind shirt to some people replaces a midlayer fleece. I'd like to get something like the Patagonia expedition weight hoodie and a windshirt over that

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    I second lightweight wool as a base layer or mid-layer. One reason I like it so much is that even when I start warming up, I never seem to overheat like I do in Polypro or some other synthetics. I have heard of ultra runners running in 90+ degree heat wearing long sleeve wool. Synthetics are great but wool is, IMO, still what all synthetics are trying to duplicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmcpeak View Post
    Patagucci R1 hooded fleece has been great for me. I can dial in a nice temp with combination of zip, hand warmers, etc. Ain't cheap but has been a good piece.
    I second the R1

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    After reading about another hiker using a Berghaus VapouLight Smock, I bought one to replace my fleece. My large weighs 5.7 oz, has a very long neck zipper, and is reversible. It has a thin layer of synthetic unsulation that light shines through. The concept is that if you wear it one way it is not as warm as when you reverse it. Apparently one side is more wind resistant. I have had it on the trail about 6 days and still haven't decided if the reversible part works. It seems less breathable than fleece but also warmer. I can layer my 7 oz down anorak over it and it replaces one of my heavier down jackets and is more versatile.

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    100-wt Chameece, 150-wt fleece or Patagooch R1 with a Montbell Versalite over it... lotsa warmth and ventability (for temp control) for the weight.

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