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    Quote Originally Posted by jackwagon View Post
    I just chatted with someone at the company that developed this. I thought that I might have a use at my off-grid cabin, but the flow in our cove is not enough (min. of about .7 mph required). He said that their primary marketing audience is campers staying several days where there is good wind or water flow.
    That what I was thinking. May have some use for campers, but at 1.3 kg, not so much for hikers.

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    But then, to place it in a suitable spot into a fast flowing stream, protect it against floating debris and fix it in a way that it will operate for multiple days without taking constant care - and then the reward is only a 15W output which is just enough to keep the group's smartphones charged - is this really the best solution?
    Maybe it could make some sense in Alaska or Greenland/Iceland where there is plenty of fast flowing water (without much flotsam) but lack of sun.

    Generally, I found solar power to be by far the most care-free solution in my private home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hiker View Post
    Because I'm no one's Sherpa. Carry your own gear that YOU want to use, just like I carry MINE.

    So, by YOUR reasoning, NO ONE will be carrying because EVERYONE will be planning on some one ELSE'S.

    Emergency: of course.

    Because you are too lazy or an ultra-light enthusiast: not a chance.
    No need to lump in UL with lazy moochers. I've hiked with a fair number of fellow ULers and IME they're the among most self-sufficient and least whiny people out there.

    And I also detest the "I'll just borrow one" attitude, although I might briefly lend my ferro rod to some prick just for the entertainment value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    No need to lump in UL with lazy moochers. I've hiked with a fair number of fellow ULers and IME they're the among most self-sufficient and least whiny people out there.

    And I also detest the "I'll just borrow one" attitude, although I might briefly lend my ferro rod to some prick just for the entertainment value.
    But you look like a Sherpa ;0)

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    seems like a solution maybe for boaters where weight isn't such an issue, or more of a doomsday survivalist sort of thing....

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    So, are you planning to arrange all of your shuttles in to town? I always share my car with hitching hikers.But, with your reasoning, people shouldn’t share? You can say “no,” I’m not sharing my phone,but most people I’ve met enjoy helping out a fellow hiker. Would you only consider sharing your phone for say, $5 a photo, or text?
    Of course everyone makes a choice on what they carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewmew View Post
    So, are you planning to arrange all of your shuttles in to town? I always share my car with hitching hikers.But, with your reasoning, people shouldn’t share? You can say “no,” I’m not sharing my phone,but most people I’ve met enjoy helping out a fellow hiker. Would you only consider sharing your phone for say, $5 a photo, or text?
    Of course everyone makes a choice on what they carry.
    Why, yes, I DID arrange my shuttles. I PAY for services rendered. I did not EXPECT to be GIVEN free services, just because I exist.

    I got a hitch ONE time up north as I was walking in to town. Did not expect it, it was offered freely, it was accepted gratefully and I left a $5 bill against the older lady's protest.

    "Helping" is one thing. "Helping" implies (to me) an urgent need, not a gimmee, entitled attitude because you are too lazy, too entitled, too whatever to carry your own gear, to carefully manage your resources, to plan for the entire Trail.

    You NEED to inform someone of an emergency situation, I'll go out of my way to help. Way out of my way. You WANT to phone/text home to tell mommy that you are OK, yeah, not happening, especially since you used up all your battery life in 10 hours trying to v-log or whatever.

    $5 a text or photo? Maybe. Depends on where we are, how much power I have left, cash only, no change for large bills, American currency only, no refunds for no service. YMMV. Sign the following and we have a deal:

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    Okay, you want to be left alone.

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    One day a raccoon will run off with his bear bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewmew View Post
    So, are you planning to arrange all of your shuttles in to town? I always share my car with hitching hikers.But, with your reasoning, people shouldn’t share? You can say “no,” I’m not sharing my phone,but most people I’ve met enjoy helping out a fellow hiker. Would you only consider sharing your phone for say, $5 a photo, or text?
    Of course everyone makes a choice on what they carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hiker View Post
    Why, yes, I DID arrange my shuttles. I PAY for services rendered. I did not EXPECT to be GIVEN free services, just because I exist.
    I got a hitch ONE time up north as I was walking in to town. Did not expect it, it was offered freely, it was accepted gratefully and I left a $5 bill against the older lady's protest.
    "Helping" is one thing. "Helping" implies (to me) an urgent need, not a gimmee, entitled attitude because you are too lazy, too entitled, too whatever to carry your own gear, to carefully manage your resources, to plan for the entire Trail.
    You NEED to inform someone of an emergency situation, I'll go out of my way to help. Way out of my way. You WANT to phone/text home to tell mommy that you are OK, yeah, not happening, especially since you used up all your battery life in 10 hours trying to v-log or whatever.
    Stubbornly proud and suspicious is no way to go through life. I like to pay my own way, and get a little irked at brazen freeloaders, but anyone who is too damned proud to put his thumb out, accept a ride, and repay it with nothing but some pleasant conversation and a thank you doesn't understand what it's means to live among others.

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    And another thing..... that run-on paragraph kind of creeps me out.

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    Either increase your ability to generate or store a charge or reduce the need for a charge. I chose the latter.
    enemy of unnecessary but innovative trail invention gadgetry

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