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    Default On Being a House Guest

    I've been meaning to write this for awhile; it was another thread I saw today on hostels and what people expected of them that prompted me to set this down:

    This summer, for the first time since 1995, I didn't do much hiking. That was the bad news.

    The good news is that by being home in Hanover for August and early September, I was able to meet with hundreds of hikers, some for the first time, and some who I'd met down South, or in Duncannon, or places in between.

    The Dartmouth dorms were taking in very few hikers this year, and I was lucky enough to be living in an empty house less than a mile from town, so we decided to take in hikers.

    We probably ended up with close to 200 by the end of the season.

    All in all, it was a great experience, and some folks stayed for almost a week, which was fine. There was plenty of room, beautiful tentsites, a great swimming hole, all within an easy walk of the Trail or downtown. We had cookouts at night and big communal breakfasts in the morning.

    There were very few problems, and 99% of the folks who stopped by were wonderful.

    However, it's that other 1% that were truly memorable!

    A few quick comments to those who'll be hiking next year, on how to be a good house guest, and how to avoid becoming the houseguest from hell:

    *Clean up after yourself. If you use the kitchen, clean up afterwards, stove,
    dishes, etc. Your host is not your maid or your mom.

    *Likewise, try and leave the bathroom/shower better looking than when you
    entered it. Don't leave the place flooded; put your towels in the right place,
    etc.

    *Be considerate in the bathroom, especially if you know other folks are
    waiting to use it. One hour showers are not cool.

    *Cleaning your boots on bath towels is also not cool.

    *In fact, if it's rainy or muddy out, try and leave your boots outside to avoid
    tracking too much crap into the house.

    *Don't hang out in the house, especially the living room, til you've cleaned up
    a bit. I.e., before lying down on the sofa to watch a double-feature, jump
    in the shower, especially if it's been awhile since your last one. Your host
    shouldn't have to force you to get cleaned up.

    *Unless specifically told to "Help yourself to anything that's in there!" do NOT
    assume that food and drink in the kitchen or fridge is at your disposal.
    Always ask first. And if you finish something up, like the orange juice or
    the half and half for the coffee, let your host know, so they can replace it.

    *Same goes for such things as shampoo, laundry soap, dish soap, etc.

    *House supplies are NOT to be carried away with you. It is NOT your host's
    responsibility to wipe your behind for the next three weeks, so even if
    there's eight rolls of TP under the sink, it is not cool for you to steal one.

    *Obey your host's requests regarding animals. I.e., if you know dogs aren't
    cool, then don't bring 'em. If your host wants them on a leash or kept
    outta the house, respect this. And for Christ's sake, clean up after your
    damned pet. If I wanted a yard full of dogs***, I'd get a puppy.

    *Don't use computers without asking, likewise, avoid "private" areas of
    people's houses. Coming home and finding a hiker going thru my desk cuz
    he was looking for a pair of pliers was not a happy moment, especially since
    there was a "Private!" sign on the bedroom door.

    *Likewise, don't use major appliances unless you've asked. Our washing
    machine was acting weird and there was a big, un-missable sign on it that
    said "Please ask Jack before using!!" and of course people routinely ignored
    this. End result was we were without a washing machine for the better
    part of a week til we could get the necesary part to fix it.

    *Respect other people that are there, both residents and other guests. If
    you're going to keep late hours, respect the folks that are sleeping. If
    you're planning on leaving at five in the morning, do so as quietly as
    possible.

    *Just cuz there's a campfire at night doesn't mean people want to hear you
    play guitar and sing, especially if you're terrible.

    *Don't bring people back to the house, or direct other hikers to the house,
    unless you've specifically asked if this is OK. I came home from work once
    to discover eight strangers in my house who'd gotten a map to the place
    from some other hikers. Not cool.

    *Don't drink if you're underage, and don't "help out" hiker friends who are
    minors. I really don't enjoy explaining to cops or people at the emergency
    room why and how a drunk 19-year-old fell off my porch and cut his head.

    *Don't use illegal drugs on anyone's property unless you absolutely know
    it is cool to do so. Be aware that even if it's cool with the owner, many
    hikers don't want to be around them.

    *Don't steal. If you want to borrow a Trail map or a shirt, I'll happily lend
    you one, and will let you know if I need it back. Walking outta my house
    with stuff is not cool.

    *Feel free to help out around the house, i.e. if you see something that
    obviously NEEEDS to be done, like drying a load of towels or doing a sink-
    ful of dishes, well just do it. Sweeping a floor won't kill you.

    *Consolidate your stuff and keep it in one place. If stuff gets lost or goes
    missing during your stay, this is YOUR responsibility.

    *If there are communal meals where everyone is kicking in a few bucks, well
    do your part. Nobody likes freeloaders. If you have eight dollars to spare
    for a designer six-pack, then you can throw in on dinner like everyone else.

    *Slackpacking, or long shuttles, costs money. Always ask your host if they'd
    like some gas money. They may well turn your offer down and say "No,
    thanks" but it can't hurt to offer.

    *And lastly, get your host's address and send them a card or Katahdin shot.
    People love hearing from hiker guests, and are always curious as to how
    your trip ended up.

    And that's that. In reading this over, I see that a lot of this applies to staying at hostels as well, especially the parts about helping out, doing a few needed chores, respecting other guests, etc. Running a hostel or having a dozen house guests every day is more work than you'd think, and there's always some way to make yourself useful.

    Oh, one last thing. Arriving at a place and announcing your intention to stay for ten days is not the best way to introduce yourself to your host!!

    And if anyone else out there has had experiences as a host (or guest!) that they want to share, by all means chime in.

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    Great post Jack! I agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin View Post

    *And lastly, get your host's address and send them a card or Katahdin shot.
    People love hearing from hiker guests, and are always curious as to how
    your trip ended up.
    Absolutley! Great post, Jack!
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    Almost as bad as agreeing with Neo, isn't it? No actually worse, but everything I saw in Jack's post looks exactly the way I'd want folks to behave at my bachelor pad/construction site/waste disposal pit-type condo.

    OK, I'll quit yanking your chain for a minute, Jack. I'll second Sly and venture a "kludos" for a well written post.
    Me no care, me here free beer. Tap keg, please?

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    It's all common sense/basic courtesy level stuff. Probably should be printed up and displayed openly at all hostels along the trail.

    Generous of you to take in hikers Jack.

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    Sweet. Lets make that an article. Anyone else want to second that nomination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Rock View Post
    Sweet. Lets make that an article. Anyone else want to second that nomination?
    i second the nomination!
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    wow, great writeup. Well done Jack.

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    good stuff. I would add don't monopolize the phone and definately no long distance calls.

    If you are staying multiple days mowing the grass is a great way to pay it forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannonball View Post

    If you are staying multiple days mowing the grass is a great way to pay it forward.
    Or sharing it!

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    It amazes me that Jack has to "spell out" how to be a gracious guest. Whatever happened to common courtesy and respect????

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    I live 60 yards off the AT and I never take hikers in. Wouldn't even think of it.

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    I'll third the nomination for making this an article. Perhaps we could get some input from Miss Janet, Bob Peoples and others who have hostel in or very near their homes.

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    Great list, agree 100%. But like you said, it's that 1% that even if they read it they wouldn't care, which is the problem.
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    Couldn't agree more Jack! Very good! Definately should be an article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Hiker View Post
    It amazes me that Jack has to "spell out" how to be a gracious guest. Whatever happened to common courtesy and respect????
    Well, for the most part hikers are courteous and respectful. Trying to get to the others is the hard part. Sometimes you have to spell it out.

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    Great post!! ans yes it needs to be in the article section and posted at all hostels.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    Well, for the most part hikers are courteous and respectful. Trying to get to the others is the hard part. Sometimes you have to spell it out.
    Also a good point. According to jack this is only about 1% of folks. So even if everyone had a copy the chances of it fixing the remaining 1% is slim. But at least hit helps a novice feel better before going to a hostel in case it is a new experience for them.
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    This post should be in all trail books like ALDHA's or WF's... These are simple rules to 'live by' when living under someone else's roof...

    Great post, I agree that this should be an article....

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    I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but hopefully not next summer. Dunno where I'm gonna be, but it better not be Hanover!

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