suggestion for security on the trail

**SGT Rock** · 03-03-2009, 20:42

FWIW - I would recommend part of staying concealed and under cover with your weapon is to also not post you do it on the Internet. Someone meets you and says: "Oh yea, you are that guy from WhiteBlaze with a gun"

**wrongway_08** · 03-03-2009, 20:53

Originally Posted by freakflyer9999

I'm reading this thread from start to finish and was going to wait till I finished before adding my 2 cents, but just couldn't let this go by.

I carry a gun just about everywhere that I legally can.

The quoted statement above concerns me greatly though. Personally, the only time that anyone will see my weapon is as they are being shot with the intent to kill. I will not carry a lesser ammo (bird shot) to try to scare them. If I can not get away from the situation and have decided to unholster my weapon, I will shoot to kill. I will only unholster the weapon once I have made the decision that deadly force is necessary and that I can deliver the deadly force without further endangering myself or innocent persons around me.

After I purchased my handgun and received my concealed handgun license I carried for about 5 months before my wife even realized that I was carrying. She knew that I had the weapon and that I had my CHL, but did not know that I carried every time I left the house.

The one most important thing that my dad taught me about guns is "Don't ever point a gun at anything that you don't intend to kill."

well said. One other point, if someone does put 2 rounds of birdshot in first and then real ammo in to fill the mag - that can get YOU sued! The reason is, if you pull a gun, it is because you KNOW your life is in danger. Putting that buck shot in the first 2 rounds and real ammo for the rest of the mag will allow a laywer to state to the jury that you knew the crimminal wasnt really threatening your life and you used a deadly weapon in a non-deadly force situation.

I dont agree with this, you should be able to blow the guys head off with any type of ammo you see fit but I just want to make sure no one goes to jail for killing a worthless crimminal due to a illmoral lawyer.

Just load your gun with a good quality kill ammo and keep it all the same.

**catfishrivers** · 03-03-2009, 21:31

damn I can't wait for personal use force fields to be invented...

**Vagrant Squirrel** · 03-04-2009, 00:16

Originally Posted by catfishrivers

damn I can't wait for personal use force fields to be invented...

I thought the thru-hiker funk and general crustiness acted as a personal use force field?

**SGT Rock** · 03-04-2009, 09:39

Probably. I think I read somewhere that all victims of trail violence had recently bathed and put on clean laundry.

**ASUGrad** · 03-04-2009, 15:33

Ask yourself this. What is more likely to happen if you carry a gun on you?
A) You will need a gun
B) Someone will steal it.

Travel in a group even if you are not with your group. If anyone asks, you are always with your group.
Carry a big knife instead.

**4eyedbuzzard** · 03-04-2009, 15:51

Originally Posted by ASUGrad

Ask yourself this. What is more likely to happen if you carry a gun on you?
A) You will need a gun
B) Someone will steal it.

A) Very unlikely
B) If they tried, then I the very unlikely (A) would occur.

Travel in a group even if you are not with your group. If anyone asks, you are always with your group.

Thanks for the tip. If anyone asks, I'll tell them that I'm with the NRA group coming up the trail behind them.

Carry a big knife instead.

No thanks. Big knives are scary, dangerous and could hurt people. The knife control people told me so.

Besides, ask yourself this: What is more likely to happen if you carry a big knife on you?
A) You will need a big knife
B) Someone will steal it.

**ASUGrad** · 03-04-2009, 16:34

I need a knife a lot more than I would need a gun. You do a lot of different things with a knife. But a $400 pistol is a lot of dead weight to lug around "just in case".

**RiverWarriorPJ** · 03-04-2009, 16:48

Originally Posted by Captn

So .... just so that everyone knows .... I'll be making a habit of taking a picture with my camera phone of other cars at whatever trailhead i visit, including their license numbers, from now on, on every trail I visit.

If nothing else, It would be nice to know what other cars were there if you return and find your car vandalized .....

other opinions are welcome.

..Good idea......can't hurt......i'll start doin' the same...thnx..

**Vibe** · 03-04-2009, 16:52

Originally Posted by ASUGrad

I need a knife a lot more than I would need a gun. You do a lot of different things with a knife. But a $400 pistol is a lot of dead weight to lug around "just in case".

Just like all the other gear in here...the $100 ones are heavier.

But there are some VERY light weight scandium framed revolvers that don't weigh much at all. The problem with that is that, when it come to handling recoil - mass (And thus weight) is your friend. Like all other camping gear there is a trade off between comfort in use and comfort to carry.

**Billygoatbritt** · 03-04-2009, 17:24

I usually hike solo and enjoy the solitude. It's nice to meet people on the trail but prefer to hike and camp at my own pace. I have the pleasure (and displeasure) of dealing with lots of people everyday and look forward to getting away. My family has a schedule of when I expect to start and where I should be each day/night. When leaving the trail and heading back home a simple phone call to let them know everything is ok helps to settle their fears. I presume most hikers are on the trail for their own reasons and are not out to harm anybody. I think a little common sense goes a long way. If on the other hand, if your time is up then definitely go down in a blaze of fury whether it is by animal or human.

**SunnyWalker** · 03-05-2009, 00:46

Watch for the bears, Billygoat.

**CowHead** · 03-05-2009, 08:01

I find those trail mice or more dangerous than the bears or people I meet on the trail.
The only thing we have to fear is ____ itself. You filled in the blank

**Godfrey** · 03-19-2009, 18:35

I agree with Take a Knee, after much discussion this week from my post that was deleted by the way, I am convinced. I was merely looking for folks input and boy I got it. I have made my decision.

**Godfrey** · 03-19-2009, 18:37

That is why you change your name

Appreciate your input this week.

**ed bell** · 03-19-2009, 18:42

Originally Posted by Godfrey

I agree with Take a Knee, after much discussion this week from my post that was deleted by the way, I am convinced. I was merely looking for folks input and boy I got it. I have made my decision.

Godfrey, I had moved your thread to cleanup a couple of posts but I did it in the incorrect order and will need help to get it back where it was before. Sorry about that. Just wanted you to know that your thread has not been deleted, folks are just unable to view it at this time.

Ed

**Godfrey** · 03-19-2009, 18:53

Not a problem Ed. It was getting a little out of control but it was interesting to read the views.

**Desert Reprobate** · 03-19-2009, 19:14

Any gun related thread has a tendency to get out of control. Lots of passion out there on both sides.

**buff_jeff** · 03-19-2009, 20:13

I couldn't care less what anyone else decides to carry.

Personally, I'm not paranoid enough to carry a gun. Too much weight and I haven't had a problem yet. Not to mention the fact that I don't have the money to buy one.

**oldfivetango** · 03-19-2009, 20:43

If you wanna carry,then carry.If you don't wanna,then dont.
(but if ya carry,please keep it concealed
as people wearing guns outside their pants like Poncho can even make
an NRA member nervous).
Now can't we all just get along?
Oldfivetango

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